From owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Fri Dec 4 09:04:14 1998 Received: (from bin@localhost) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) id JAA07932; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 09:04:14 +1300 Received: from fclaklmr01.fcl.co.nz ([203.98.14.148] (may be forged)) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) with ESMTP id JAA07922 ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 09:04:10 +1300 Received: from falaklnt000.falum.co.nz ([10.8.1.20]) by fclaklmr01.fcl.co.nz (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id nz ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 09:01:01 +1300 Received: by falaklnt000.falum.co.nz with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BE1F65.085C57A0@falaklnt000.falum.co.nz>; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 09:04:00 +1300 Message-ID: Subject: RE: Cold Iron proposal Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 09:03:58 +1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Andrew Withy (FAL AKL)" To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Sender: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Errors-To: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Reply-To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Loop: dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Requests: To unsubscribe from this list, or change your subscription address, send a message to dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz. Yes. Yes. Yes. "fair and easy to administer" are two of the rules triumvirate, along with "flavoursome". Andrew >---------- >From: Mike Young[SMTP:mike@games.co.nz] >Martin Dickson wrote: >> I think 1.5 x Prot (with an optional max. 15) is probably about right. > >I see no reason for a multiplier. > >For those of you looking for logic or reasons for my opinions I plead >simplicity and >ease of play. I don't care why it works this way, just that it's fair and >easy to >administer. I am sure I could find reasons to justify it all but see no >reason to spend >the time. -- See message headers to unsubscribe from -- From owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Fri Dec 4 11:56:05 1998 Received: (from bin@localhost) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) id LAA08110; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 11:56:05 +1300 Received: from smtp1.ihug.co.nz (tk1.ihug.co.nz [203.29.160.13]) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) with ESMTP id LAA08100 ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 11:55:57 +1300 Received: from phaeton.ihug.co.nz (p18-max41.akl.ihug.co.nz [209.79.137.146]) by smtp1.ihug.co.nz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA11690 ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 11:53:24 +1300 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981204114907.007e8b50@pop.ihug.co.nz> X-Sender: phaeton@pop.ihug.co.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 11:49:07 +1300 Subject: Library Updates Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Keith Smith To: dq-announce@dq.sf.org.nz Sender: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Errors-To: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Reply-To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Loop: dq-announce@dq.sf.org.nz X-Requests: To unsubscribe from this list, or change your subscription address, send a message to dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz. Below is the list of scribe notes currently held in the library and the first draft of a 'Places and People' index in Alusia to go with the Gazetteer Keith (phaeton@ihug.co.nz) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Places and People on Alusia (as taken from Scribe Notes) Aladar The Chancellor's Message Albu Longa Disappointment at Destiny Alfheim Lake Cartography Hobgoblin Harassment Amba Explore the High Mana Zone Aquila The Chancellor's Message Nendil's Journal Artzdorf Find Liessa's Tutor Atui (Pasifikan island group) South Seas Romance Balmain (Merfolk town) Kedri, Sushi & Calimari Surprise Barovia Lake Cartography Basalisk Island Wizard Killing's all in a days work Bowcourt Last Will and Testiment of Baron Garcia Rescue of Melissa Nendil's Journal The Mines of Gathron Brandenburg Little Black Got'em The Elven Crystals Wizard Killing's all in a days work Brasta Babes in Faerieland Do You Take This Frog Scroll of Himcules The Diary of Ventura Blue Calder City (in Brandenburg) Little Black Got'em Wizard killings' all in a days work Carina The Superbowl Clakesville Lake Cartography Cottingley Babes in Faerieland Danton (in barony of Halcor) Maji, Mistresses and Mind Mages Dar Trouble with Triffids Delph Delph 2 - Insect World Dottery Trouble with Triffids Dragon Islands Dorvogel's Dungeon Drow Island Disappointment at Destiny Dun Kirk Enchanter's Box Elfenburg Lake Cartography The Chancellor's Message The Lost People Emerald Isles Fairy Dangerous Kings Quest Erewhon Saydar's Pub Crwl Felicemouth Saydar's Pub Crawl Fesenheim (North Aquila) Insect World Filgasso Forest Eclipse Fretaun City Little Black Got'em Gator Depression Investigation of Gator Depression Gnome Village (unnamed) To Tax the Hobbits Graft Lake Cartography Gugnics Hope To Catch a Fallen Star Halcor Forest (location of Marcus's Tower) Knight of Mystery Maji, Mistresses, and Mind Mages High Mana Zone (in West Carzala) Explore the High Mana Zone A Trip in the Woods Hobbit Village (unnamed) The Stolen Seal To Tax the Hobbits Ildrisholm Exploring Ildrisholm Insel Garsi Do You Take This Frog Jermare (Merfolk village) Kedri, Sushi & Calimari Surprise Jessel To Tax the Hobbits Kinlu Defense of Sssqua Klanz Mishrak Orcs vs Orcs vs Dwarves Klanz Nadrack Orcs vs Orcs vs Dwarves Lower Ormathwaite Seagate Guards Do Lower Ormathwaite Maltain Quest in Search of Missing Melanie Mystery at Maltain Margrave Knight of Mystery Maji, Mistresses and Mind Mages Orcs vs Orcs vs Dwarves Matzdorf The Stolen Seal Mt Brandon To Catch a Fallen Star Search for Flowers Mt Dersai Search for Flowers Newhaven Saydar's Pub Crawl NovaDom Eclipse Do You Take This Frog Scroll of Himcules South Seas Romance Orleans The Superbowl Ox Ford (in Ranke) Where's Alice? Pallisades (cliffs) Search for Flowers Pasifika (mercity) South Seas Romance Pasifika (sunken city) South Seas Romance Port Artz Quest in Search of Missing Melanie Mystery at Maltain River's End Quest for Shaman's Daughter Ruby Lake Search for Flowers Sea of Grass Find the Worts Seagate Eclipse Killing of the Great Troll Chef Saydar's Pub Crawl Senartz Plateau Mystery at Maltain Silverstream The Trouble with Triffids Slippery Rock The Strange Case of the Odd Guild Mission Stirling Orc Slayer Summer City (Under a frozen lake) The Gnome with the Golden Hand Superstitious Mountains Explore the High Mana Zone Regicide Taiko Quest for Shaman's Daughter Tainsfield Return of the Prodigal Telen Garsen's Tower Terra Nova Defense of Ssqua Tobintown Do You Take This Frog The Diary of Ventura Blue Valley of Naud Find the Worts Worts and Boyles Windemere Return of the Prodigal -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Apollyon Defense of Ssqua Beliel Defense of Ssqua Calimar Kedri, Sushi & Calimari Surprise Listen Carefully Search for John Children of the Traveller Find the Worts Quest for Shamen's Daughter Worts and Boyles Commander Fish Disappointment at Destiny Hurog the Hammer The Gnome with the Golden Hand Immanuel Aliias The Gnome with the Golden Hand Jacob Carlyle (The Traveller) Princess Bride Return One Hero from the Cosmos Marcus Carradine Destroy the Weapon of Mass Destruction Find Liessa's Tutor Knight of Mystery Maji, Mistresses, and Mind Mages Meg Giants, Women and Winter Root of Evil Evil Below Michael Halsek Valmar Escorting Ensemble Maji, Mistresses and Mind Mages Simon Halsek Valmer Knight of Mystery Moeg Khellec Listen Carefully Raphael Defense of Ssqua Ratho Find the Worts Worts and Boyles Robin and the Merry Men Evil Below Sammael Defense of Ssqua Uriel Defense of Ssqua Xanadu Defense of Ssqua Zigmar Priestesses Disappointment at Destiny ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- LIST OF SCRIBE NOTES IN THE LIBRARY Session/Title (#=e-form) Game Master Scribe (*=Not official) Autumn 798 #Planeport Troopers Ross Alexander William(Liessa) Mission to Malachandra Jacqui Smith *Keith(Phaeton) #Defense of Ssqua Martin Dickson Brent(Bozo) Summer 798 #Root of Evil Mike Young Keith(Basalic) #Behold the Beholder Paul Schmidt Keith(Aqualina) Spring 797 WK (Jan '97 AP) #The Seagate Guards Do Lower Ormathwaite Andrew Withey Daryl(Tixellanif) #The Hunt for Kontalie Phil Judd Keith(Basalic) #Killing of the Great Troll Chef Noel Livingston Keith(Aqualina) #Quest for Virtue Ben Taberner Noel(Ned) Winter 797 WK (Oct '96 AP) #Quest for Father Rowan's Holy Symbol Paul Schmidt Keith(Phaeton) #Rules of Engagement Paul Schmidt Jacqui(Starflower) #Eclipse Noel Livingston Anna(Scorpion) #That was now, this is then Mike Parkinson (Amaranth) #The Eye of Norden Greg Taylor Andrew(Eidolon) Autumn 797 WK (Jul '96 AP) #Around A Hat in 80 Hours Martin Dickson Brent J(Bozo) #The Other Hat Adventure Lisa Rose Greg(Strontium) #Organised Chaos Scott Whittaker Keith(Aqualina) #Find the Worts Craig Beere Keith(Phaeton) #Rabbit Adventure Daryl Craig B(Berik) #Exploring Ildrisholm - Part 2 ? Ross(Ishmael) Apr '96 AP #The Search for Flowers Struan Judd Daryl(Tixellanif) #Princess Bride in the Black Tower William Dymock Keith(Basalic) #The Return of the Prodigal Son Keith Smith Andrew(Hugh) #Destroy the Weapon of Mass Destruction Mandos (Gideon) #Saydar's Pub Crawl ? ? #A Trip in the Woods ? Ross(Jedburgh) Jan '96 AP (untitled) Lisa Rose (Strontium) Neverland Rosemary Mansfield (Shizane) #Chaining the Dark Lord Scott Whittaker Keith(Aqualina) #Find Liessa's Tutor Mandos Craig B(Berik) #Garsen's Tower - Epilogue Greg Graydon (Vapour) #Scroll of Himcules Bryan Holden Anna(Scorpion) Oct '95 AP #The Chancellors Message Ian Wood Mike W(Anathea) #Worts and Boyles Craig Beere Mark(Glod) #Arabian Adventure Alastair Craig B(Darksinger) #Garsen's Tower Greg Graydon (Vapour) Jul '95 AP #Where is Gammy? Daryl Crosby Michael G(Gideon) #The Gnome with the Golden Hand Carl Reynolds Keith(Basalic) #The Alternate Adventure William Dymock Craig B(Berik) #Object Delivery Steven Anna(Scorpion) #Down on the Farm Craig Beere Mark(Glod) Apr '95 AP #Kedri, Sushi and Calimari Surprise William Dymock *Keith(Aqualina) #A Diplomatic Undertaking Eamon Zink Anna(Scorpion) #Quest for Shaman's Daughter Craig Beere Noel(Pinefeller) #The Trouble with Triffids Jacqui Smith Mark(Glod) (untitled) Phil Judd (Keshah) Jan '95 AP #Dorvogel's Dungeon Daryl Crosby Nigel(Britamus) #Magi, Mistresses, and Mind Mages William Dymock Anna(Scorpion) #Delta Blues Rosemary Mansfield Keith(Aqualina) #Die Wintergarden ? ? #Giants, Woman, and Winter ? Ross(Callas) Oct '94 AP #Yana the Undying Brent Jackson Andrew(Eidolon) #Kings Quest Scott Whittaker Keith(Phaeton) #The Rescue at Hob's Dell ? Ross(Jedburgh) #Temple of the White Goddess ? ? Jul '94 AP Filgasso Forest - Retrieval of Artifact ? Noel(Pinefeller) Strange Case of the Odd Guild Mission Rosemary Daryl(Axy) Little Black Got'em Dean Ellis Jillian(Reck) #Return One Hero from the Cosmos William Dymock Keith(Basalic) #Tears of the Gods Jon McSpadden Anna(Scorpion) #Into the High Mana Zone ? Ross(Jedburgh) Apr '94 AP There and Back Again Derek Ollie(Sabbath) In Search of the Lost People ? Karl(Rasche) #In Search of Slavers Scott Whittaker Daryl(Axy) (untitled) Noel Terry(Adam) #Escorting Ensemble William Dymock Anna(Scorpion) Jan '94 AP #Insect World Carl Reynolds Keith(Phaeton) The Elven Crystals Jon McSpadden Neil(Logan) #Search for John William Craig B(Darksinger) Oct '93 AP #Dragon's Eye Mike Harre Keith(Aqualina) Rescue of Melissa ? (Sean) Mission to Feralee Jim Arona Mike P(Sushi) Orcs v Orcs v Dwarves William Into the Malestrom Dean Ellis (Daemien) #An Inconstant Moon ? Ross (Ishamel) Evil Below(Next Door to Hell) Michael Young Jim(Scratch) Jul '93 AP Nendil's Journal ? Claire(Nendil) #Listen Carefully .. William Dymock Keith(Basalic) Priests and Pregnancy Ian Wood Robert Amor(Romo) Apr '93 #The Return of the Unwilling Chosen Mike Harre Keith(Phaeton) Wizard Killing Jon McSpadden Kelsie(One) Jan '93 #Knight of Mystery William Dymock Keith(Phaeton) #Romance in the South Seas Jacqui Smith Keith(Aqualina) (untitled) Mike Parkinson Jonathan(Stark) The Lost Inheritance Jon McSpadden Alistair(Ptolemy) Oct '92 #Rescue from the Hive Jacqui Smith Brent J(Bozo) #Lake Cartography Greg Graydon Keith(Basalic) #Search for the Holy Lance of Antioch Adam Tennant Ross(Callas) #Orc Slayer ? Ross(Jedburgh) Jul '92 #The Ship That Flew Jacqui Smith Keith(Phaeton) #Where's Alice? Daniel Dixon Brent J(Bozo) #Into the Land of Dreams ? Ross(Callas) Apr '92 #Trash and Burn Scott Whittaker Keith(Aqualina) Jan '92 #Rats Rats Ratties Phil Judd Keith(Basalic) Oct '91 #Rendezvous with Gaia Daniel Dixon Keith(Phaeton) #Disappointment at Destiny Mike Parkinson Keith(Aqualina) Jul '91 #Mystery at Maltain Struan Judd *Keith(Basalic) Apr '91 #Babes in Faerieland Jacqui Smith Keith(Aqualina) #The Stolen Seal Phil Judd Jacqui(Starflower) Jan '91 #The Enchanters Box Reid Jacqui(Flamis) #To Catch A Thief Mark Harrison *Keith(Aqualina) Oct '90 #Last Will and Testament of Baron Garcia Dean Ellis *Jacqui(Starflower) Jul '90 Mezzo Volta Suffering Craig Harper Kelsie(Anyway) #To Tax the Hobbits Phil Judd *Keith(Basalic) #To Catch A Fallen Star Carl Reynolds *Keith(Phaeton) Apr '90 #Do you take this frog? Craig Harper Keith(Basalic) Jul '89 #The Quest for Missing Melanie Struan Judd Jacqui(Flamis) Giant Axe ? (Fynn) The Towers II Bart Janssen Martin(Mortimer) Apr '89 Regicide Brent Chris(Amaranth) The Balrog's Egg Martin Dickson Lisa(Serendipity) Jan '89 (untitled) ? (Galadriel) Ye Noble Guardians of Ye Football Team Reid/Bryan Holden Jacqui(Starflower) Trouble at Huddles Farm Lisa Cotton Rosemary(Amelia) Jul '88 The Mines of Gothron Martin Dickson The Shattered Statue II Bart Hobgoblin Harassment Greg Graydon {The entire party} Apr '88 Delf 2 - Insect World Greg Taylor Ian(IsilEth) Jan '88 The Diary of Ventura Blue ? Blabbo Take's Birthday Party Lisa Cotton Gator Depression Greg Graydon {The entire party} Oct '87 Bryan's Beginners Intro Bryan Holden Jul '84 The Lost Woman Adventure Brent Jackson Andrew Williams (Bab El Ehr) Ghostbusters (Un-)Limited Brent Jackson Andrew Williams (Bab El Ehr) Apr '84 Take It from the Top Kyn Jackson Brent (Borghoff) Ruby Water Adventure Luke De Jong Brent (TDH) Undated To Bring Back Orb from Naga ? Asure Asafe's Shopping List Mike Young Scott(Rothgar) The Golden Dragon Quest Brent Jackson -- See message headers to unsubscribe from -- From owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Fri Dec 4 17:17:39 1998 Received: (from bin@localhost) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) id RAA08428; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 17:17:39 +1300 Received: from fep1-orange.clear.net.nz (fep1-orange.clear.net.nz [203.97.32.1]) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) with ESMTP id RAA08418 ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 17:17:37 +1300 Received: from qed_akl_nt_1.qed.co.nz ([203.97.23.141]) by fep1-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.11) with ESMTP id RAA02279; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 17:14:33 +1300 (NZDT) Received: by qed_akl_nt_1.qed.co.nz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 17:14:34 +1300 Message-ID: <15A7D8BC5E3ED2119E2E0000F82150FC0B8462@qed_akl_nt_1.qed.co.nz> Subject: DQ Gods Meeting Agenda: 6th December 1998 Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 17:14:29 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain From: Stephen Martin To: dq-announce@dq.sf.org.nz Sender: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Errors-To: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Reply-To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Loop: dq-announce@dq.sf.org.nz X-Requests: To unsubscribe from this list, or change your subscription address, send a message to dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz. Sunday 6th December 1998, Noon. At: Michael Parkinsons', Grafton. Chair: Stephen Martin Second: Dean Ellis 0) Adventures Going Out Paul - Hell - High+ Jim - Lord of Tinkers - Medium-High Jon McSpadden - Necro Hunting - Medium? Keith - ? - V Low Martin - War of Tears - Medium-High? 1) Campaign Voting Issues New Second for Next Session. Taxes & Training - Rosemary 2) Rules Voting Issues Cold Iron Proposal - Martin 3) Fast Track Proposals Earth Tremor - Keith 4) Campaign General Business Gazetteer - Michael P 5) Rules General Business Earth College Branches: Straw Poll - Keep them or Lose them. **************** Cheers, Stephen. -- See message headers to unsubscribe from -- From owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Fri Dec 4 17:34:11 1998 Received: (from bin@localhost) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) id RAA08462; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 17:34:11 +1300 Received: from peace.com (defacto.peace.co.nz [202.14.141.225]) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) with SMTP id RAA08452 ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 17:34:07 +1300 Received: via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/pcnz2.7) id RAA14534; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 17:31:33 +1300 Message-ID: <36676777.FDC18FB4@peace.com> Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 17:39:19 +1300 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b2 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: DQ Gods Meeting Agenda: 6th December 1998 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Martin Dickson To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Sender: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Errors-To: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Reply-To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Loop: dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Requests: To unsubscribe from this list, or change your subscription address, send a message to dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz. Stephen Martin wrote: > 0) Adventures Going Out > Martin - War of Tears - Medium-High? Level: Newtonian. > 2) Rules Voting Issues > > Cold Iron Proposal - Martin I'd much rather that this was just a discussion. I do not believe that there is currently sufficient agreement on this to put it to a vote -- and certainly the ideas that have come out of the list need to be included in a new draft of the proposal before it is up to date. Cheers, Martin -- See message headers to unsubscribe from -- From owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Fri Dec 4 18:38:37 1998 Received: (from bin@localhost) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) id SAA08549; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 18:38:37 +1300 Received: from smtp2.ihug.co.nz (tk2.ihug.co.nz [203.29.160.14]) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) with ESMTP id SAA08539 ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 18:38:35 +1300 Received: from phaeton.ihug.co.nz (p102-tnt1.akl.ihug.co.nz [209.232.125.102]) by smtp2.ihug.co.nz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA26477 ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 18:35:59 +1300 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981204183145.007a56c0@pop.ihug.co.nz> X-Sender: phaeton@pop.ihug.co.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 18:31:45 +1300 Subject: Re: DQ Gods Meeting Agenda: 6th December 1998 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Keith Smith To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Sender: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Errors-To: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Reply-To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Loop: dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Requests: To unsubscribe from this list, or change your subscription address, send a message to dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz. >3) Fast Track Proposals > >Earth Tremor - Keith Huh? Sorry, but that's not me. Keith (phaeton@ihug.co.nz) -- See message headers to unsubscribe from --