From owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Thu Feb 25 10:52:21 1999 Received: (from bin@localhost) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) id KAA27459; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:52:21 +1300 Received: from kcbbs.gen.nz (kcbbs.gen.nz [202.14.102.1]) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) with ESMTP id KAA27456 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:52:20 +1300 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kcbbs.gen.nz (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10948 for dq@dq.sf.org.nz; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:41:54 +1300 (NZDT) Message-ID: <36D46CC6.D5AF4162@games.co.nz> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:19:03 +1300 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Jonno Fighting 8.0 - Warrior skill - Requirements Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Jono Bean To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Sender: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Errors-To: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Loop: dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Requests: To unsubscribe from this list, or change your subscription address, send a message to dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz. Reply-To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Phil Judd wrote: > OLD Rank of Proposal > Time XP Warrior Time XP > 24 weeks 475 0 - - > 40 weeks 950 1 - - > 49 weeks 1,220 2 - - > 89 weeks 2,070 3 ~45 weeks 16,050 > 101 weeks 2,320 4 " " > 125 weeks 3,220 5 ~150 weeks 126,000 > 155 weeks 4,420 6 " " > 185 weeks 6,320 7 ~199 weeks 168,020 > 223 weeks 8,630 8 " " > 269 weeks 10,520 9 " " > 325 weeks 15,920 10 " " > > The proposal seems a little extreme to me. I'm not suggesting the old > system was a good one and seemed to have the unnecessary complication of > weapon categories but the new proposal changes warriors from being > generalists who are good with a variety of weapons to specialists that > have a few high ranked weapons (that's where most of the time came from) > and a few expensive special abilities. Point taken. I will re-review the proposed changes to ranks and needed weapons abilites with the aim ofbringing it back into line with what we already have. > I would like to see Warriors having knowledge of a number of different > weapons and specialising in a couple. I feel that the weapons abilities will do this. What I expect to happen is that more Warriors will stillhave there large number of weapons and lots of ranks in them, and they will specialise in a couple to gain good ranks in abilities that need re-ranking for effect. > Effectively the change has changed warrior from a weapon skill to a > weapon ability skill - not necessarily a bad thing. This is the plan. > Anyway I would like to see a more graduated scale of prerequisites > rather than just three levels (in the centre of the 1 - 10 range) and > some requirements on basic weapons to support the high ranked ones. This is a good - as a graduated scale would be better. I'll put some numbers together (with Phil I hope),and re-post Warrior as a more gratuated scale. Jono -- Circle Games - PBM Telephone (649) 828-2959 Facsimile (649) 828-2759 Email jono@games.co.nz Website http://www.games.co.nz Circle Games PO Box 105-320 Auckand 1030 New Zealand "Mac vs. PCs" is the same as saying "Art vs. Commerce". -- see unsubscribe instructions in message headers -- From owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Thu Feb 25 11:05:58 1999 Received: (from bin@localhost) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) id LAA27498; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:05:58 +1300 Received: from smtp.worley.co.nz (fwuser@fw.worley.co.nz [202.135.112.130]) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) with SMTP id LAA27495 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:05:57 +1300 Received: by smtp.worley.co.nz(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.1 (569.2 2-6-1998)) id 4C256722.007EFBD1 ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:07:00 +1200 X-Lotus-FromDomain: WORLEY CONSULTANTS Message-ID: <4C256722.007DF057.00@smtp.worley.co.nz> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:59:35 +1200 Subject: Re: Jonno Fighting 8.0 - Warrior skill - Requirements Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline From: amtennant@worley.co.nz To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Sender: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Errors-To: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Loop: dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Requests: To unsubscribe from this list, or change your subscription address, send a message to dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz. Reply-To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz >> I would like to see Warriors having knowledge of a number of different >> weapons and specialising in a couple. >I feel that the weapons abilities will do this. What I expect to happen is >that more Warriors will stillhave there large number of weapons and lots of >ranks in them, and they will specialise in a couple to >gain good ranks in abilities that need re-ranking for effect. Nope, won't happen except for character reasons. You'll find that fighters will have one weapon of each class at max rank and that's about it. So you'll see Mr Smash with: Rank 7 H&1/2 Rank 4 Shield Rank 9 Estoc Rank 9 Cestus with the various abilities associated with damage class for each. That'd probably be about optimal. Of course people will always try to be different too..... L8R, Adam. -- see unsubscribe instructions in message headers -- From owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Thu Feb 25 12:47:54 1999 Received: (from bin@localhost) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) id MAA27655; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 12:47:54 +1300 Received: from mail.iconz.co.nz (oldmail.iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.36]) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) with ESMTP id MAA27652 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 12:47:53 +1300 Received: from mandos (e0.firewall.ak.iconz.net.nz [202.14.100.208]) by mail.iconz.co.nz (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id MAA018800919899685 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 12:41:25 +1300 (NZDT) Message-ID: <004101be604e$d66f5a50$0d64a8c0@mandos.iconz> Subject: Schools Again. Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 12:38:52 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 From: "Mandos Mitchinson" To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Sender: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Errors-To: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Loop: dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Requests: To unsubscribe from this list, or change your subscription address, send a message to dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz. Reply-To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz A couple of people have Emailed me their own schools and so I will happily compile any other details people wish to send, so if you have a facility or group that could train or does train in strange weapon skills please send them to me at mandos@nexus.org.nz in the following format. School Name: Location: Reason for operation: Recent history: Special Skills known. Requirements to learn skills GM And I will compile them for introduction into either a GM's document or a Stand alone GM companion should the Weapon proposal be brought into play. If the weapons skills are not uses I will edit them for use with our current system as a campaign background information resource. Mandos /s -- see unsubscribe instructions in message headers --