From owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Tue May 4 13:15:05 1999 Received: (from bin@localhost) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) id NAA28774; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:15:05 +1200 Received: from mailhost.auckland.ac.nz (mailhost.auckland.ac.nz [130.216.1.4]) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) with ESMTP id NAA28771 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:15:02 +1200 Received: from sci4 (lbr-122-42.lbrsc.auckland.ac.nz [130.216.122.42]) by mailhost.auckland.ac.nz (8.9.2/8.9.2/8.9.2-ua) with SMTP id NAA09123 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:07:22 +1200 (NZST) Message-Id: <199905040107.NAA09123@mailhost.auckland.ac.nz> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 10:29:37 +0000 Subject: Re: Languages X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) From: "Michael Parkinson" To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Sender: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Errors-To: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Loop: dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Requests: To unsubscribe from this list, or change your subscription address, send a message to dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz. Reply-To: m.parkinson@auckland.ac.nz, dq@dq.sf.org.nz > What about fully magical speaking of such languages? Is this confered by > the Bardic communication spell? Actually the draft document (Clump1) does indeed *explicitly* say "If you do have the physiological or magical ability to speak such languages, you may rank them without penalty." [Note too that literacy in such tongues depends on whether or not you can speak them] regards, michael Michael Parkinson Mathematics & Statistics Librarian Science Library, University of Auckland, Private Bag 92019, AUCKLAND, N.Z. Email: m.parkinson@auckland.ac.nz Phone: (09) 3737 599 x 5858 Fax: (09) 3082 304 -------------------------------- "But, Signor Simplicio, do dump the thought & hope you have, that men can be so more well-read, learned, & versed in books ... that, despite nature, they were for causing that which is false to become true." -- Galileo, Dialogo. -- see unsubscribe instructions in message headers -- From owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Tue May 4 13:24:24 1999 Received: (from bin@localhost) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) id NAA28803; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:24:24 +1200 Received: from mailhost.auckland.ac.nz (mailhost.auckland.ac.nz [130.216.1.4]) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) with ESMTP id NAA28800 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:24:23 +1200 Received: from sci4 (lbr-122-42.lbrsc.auckland.ac.nz [130.216.122.42]) by mailhost.auckland.ac.nz (8.9.2/8.9.2/8.9.2-ua) with SMTP id NAA10838 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:16:43 +1200 (NZST) Message-Id: <199905040116.NAA10838@mailhost.auckland.ac.nz> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 13:18:23 +0000 Subject: Re: Languages X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) From: "Michael Parkinson" To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Sender: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Errors-To: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Loop: dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Requests: To unsubscribe from this list, or change your subscription address, send a message to dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz. Reply-To: m.parkinson@auckland.ac.nz, dq@dq.sf.org.nz Sorry if this is a duplicate -- our system fell over & I don't know what was saved & what was trashed. Jacqui asked: > What about fully magical speaking of such languages? Is this confered by > the Bardic communication spell? The latest working draft (Clump1) *does* specifically state [quote] If you do have the physiological or magical ability to speak such languages, you may rank them without penalty. although Rosemary's point is also valid as a generalisation of what the default position should be for any skill. regards, michael Michael Parkinson Mathematics & Statistics Librarian Science Library, University of Auckland, Private Bag 92019, AUCKLAND, N.Z. Email: m.parkinson@auckland.ac.nz Phone: (09) 3737 599 x 5858 Fax: (09) 3082 304 -------------------------------- "But, Signor Simplicio, do dump the thought & hope you have, that men can be so more well-read, learned, & versed in books ... that, despite nature, they were for causing that which is false to become true." -- Galileo, Dialogo. -- see unsubscribe instructions in message headers --