From owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Wed Jun 23 12:57:37 1999 Received: (from bin@localhost) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) id MAA25499; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:57:37 +1200 Received: from fclaklmr01.fcl.co.nz (mail.fcl.co.nz [203.98.14.148]) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) with ESMTP id MAA25496 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:57:33 +1200 Received: from falaklnt000.falum.co.nz ([10.8.1.20]) by fclaklmr01.fcl.co.nz (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id nz for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:48:42 +1200 Received: by falaklnt000.falum.co.nz with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BEBD76.C2E76DD0@falaklnt000.falum.co.nz>; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:48:58 +1200 Message-ID: Subject: RE: Greyhawk Living Campaign Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:48:56 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Andrew Withy (FAL AKL)" To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Sender: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Errors-To: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Loop: dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Requests: To unsubscribe from this list, or change your subscription address, send a message to dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz. Reply-To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Congratulations, Paul, on your appointment to co-ordinate the regional Greyhawk Living Campaign. I believe that your suggestion of having a character "running in two modes" is against the DQ Guild campaign rules. I believe it was decided long before I joined that EP from other campaigns in DQ, let alone other systems, would not be recognised. There have been occasional exceptions to this when characters have joined the Guild (the original characters in 1981 were D&D, and George's Dramus came from a related DQ campaign before becoming a DQ Guild character. However, I don't believe that there are any characters who play under DQ & other game systems at once who have EP recognised in the Guild. Anyone, please correct me if I am wrong. >Also, please explain a little about this idea of "a relative idea on where >you stand in relation to players world wide in terms of roleplaying systems in general" - is this a roleplaying ranking system? If so, then it is doomed to failure if we are comparing with systems that give EP based on gold pieces found, or with uncontrolled GMs. Good luck & lots of fun with your new role. Andrew >---------- >From: P Schmidt[SMTP:pope.ug@ihug.co.nz] >Reply To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz >Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 1999 14:33 >To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz >Subject: Greyhawk Living Campaign > >I've just been appointed co-ordinator for TSR's Greyhawk Living Campaign for >this region. This will give roleplayers the chance to register their >characters internationally with the RPGA (or through myself if you prefer) >and thus have your character rated and recognised world wide, regardless of >the system played. >I would encourage you to use this opportunity to speak to me about >running your characters in two modes. Essentially this means you can play >your character under either system but a conversion process for EP will give >you a relative idea on where you stand in relation to players world wide in >terms of roleplaying systems in general. >Paul Schmidt > -- see unsubscribe instructions in message headers -- From owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Wed Jun 23 14:21:54 1999 Received: (from bin@localhost) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) id OAA25673; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:21:54 +1200 Received: from smtp2.ihug.co.nz (tk2.ihug.co.nz [203.29.160.14]) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) with ESMTP id OAA25670 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:21:52 +1200 Received: from jimarona.ihug.co.nz (p172-tnt2.akl.ihug.co.nz [203.109.245.172]) by smtp2.ihug.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id OAA07056 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:12:35 +1200 Subject: Re: Greyhawk Living Campaign Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:09:09 +1200 Message-ID: <01bebd1d$610a0360$acf56dcb@jimarona.ihug.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 From: "Jim Arona" To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Sender: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Errors-To: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Loop: dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Requests: To unsubscribe from this list, or change your subscription address, send a message to dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz. Reply-To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz >I don't believe that there are any characters who >play under DQ & other game systems at once who have EP recognised in the >Guild. > >Anyone, please correct me if I am wrong. Anyone can bring a character from one system to this one. It needs to be vetted, and checked. But that's about all. Jesus, Andrew, this is a game, not a police state. If someone has a character from a reasonably appropriate, and they want to play it, then there is nothing wrong with crossing the character over. The character will have to be converted to the current system, but that's about all. The only hard part is finding a DM willing to do the necessary vetting. > >>Also, please explain a little about this idea of "a relative idea on where >>you stand in relation to players world wide in terms of roleplaying systems >in general" - is this a roleplaying ranking system? If so, then it is >doomed to failure if we are comparing with systems that give EP based on >gold pieces found, or with uncontrolled GMs. I have no idea whether or not this is a roleplaying ranking system, or not. One thing I do take exception to is the constant abuse AD&D gets. Whatever your grizzles about the system, and there is a fair whack to complain about, it is a very robust system. It is the longest lived roleplaying system, and while it is not my game of choice, it is certainly one worth looking at, just because of that. Yes, it gives ep on the basis of treasure found. So what? That is one of the things that is going to make players tougher. Or do you really consider that a character of the Croesian wealth of, say, Engalton or his ilk does not make him powerful? I disagree, entirely. As for uncontrolled DMs, then they exist in the Guild, and I would have said, in the same ratio as other systems. Guild DMs have no special quality that would make them better than your average non-Guild DM. In fact, the cloistered nature of the Guild means that, on average, the DMs are not as good as they might be. You might say that there is precious little point in a ranking system for a roleplaying game, because these game aren't about winning anything. And you might also mention how difficult it would be to compare a level based character against a skill based character. But the way the system awards ep, and the quality of the DMing? No, I really don't think so. Jim. -- see unsubscribe instructions in message headers --