From owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Tue Jul 6 04:39:56 1999 Received: (from bin@localhost) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) id EAA12980; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 04:39:56 +1200 Received: from ismbc.com (roxy.ismbc.com [207.194.198.216]) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) with ESMTP id EAA12977 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 04:39:52 +1200 Received: from cricket.bcgas.com by ismbc.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA13802; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 09:18:06 -0700 Received: by cricket with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 09:21:29 -0700 Message-ID: <13526950162FD211A07F0001FA68BE8C01CA4573@orca> Subject: RE: Minutes from July Gods Meeting Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 09:16:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain From: Martin Dickson To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Sender: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Errors-To: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Loop: dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Requests: To unsubscribe from this list, or change your subscription address, send a message to dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz. Reply-To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz > -----Original Message----- > > Witchsight v Invisibility > ii) Target Entity is to be added to the Wiccan Witchsight to allow the > perception of invisible entities. Passed (7/0/2). > [Martin Dickson] Hi, Could someone who was present please explain this to me. As far as I am aware adding "Target Entity" to a spell allows one to cast the spell at an entity. In this case we are discussing a self only talent, no? Or was this a correction to a badly worded talent description, where the intention was clear but the designers bollixed up the writing? In which case why was there a split vote over fixing it? Cheers, Martin > -- see unsubscribe instructions in message headers -- From owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Tue Jul 6 09:01:33 1999 Received: (from bin@localhost) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) id JAA13102; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 09:01:33 +1200 Received: from akl-notes.aj.co.nz (ns.aj.co.nz [202.27.194.165]) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) with SMTP id JAA13099 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 09:01:31 +1200 Received: by akl-notes.aj.co.nz(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (778.2 1-4-1999)) id 4C2567A5.0071344E ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 08:36:29 +1200 X-Lotus-FromDomain: AJ.CO.NZ Message-ID: <4C2567A5.00713400.00@akl-notes.aj.co.nz> Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 08:36:27 +1200 Subject: RE: Minutes from July Gods Meeting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline From: Rosemary_Mansfield/AJNzl/NZ@aj.co.nz To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Sender: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Errors-To: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Loop: dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Requests: To unsubscribe from this list, or change your subscription address, send a message to dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz. Reply-To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Keith didn't put this well. The current spell description reads "The Adept has a Base Chance equal to their Perception (+ 5 / Rank) of seeing objects which are normally invisible or which have been rendered invisible by magical means (i.e. such spells as Walking Unseen, Blending, and Invisibility). " We voted to change this to "... seeing entities or objects ... " Rosemary This message contains confidential information intended only for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient any use, review, perusal, dissemination, distribution or copying of this document is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error please immediately telephone us on +64-9-356 4000 and destroy the original message. -- see unsubscribe instructions in message headers -- From owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Tue Jul 6 13:37:01 1999 Received: (from bin@localhost) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) id NAA13516; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 13:37:01 +1200 Received: from mailhost.auckland.ac.nz (mailhost.auckland.ac.nz [130.216.1.4]) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) with ESMTP id NAA13513 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 13:36:59 +1200 Received: from sci4 (lbr-122-42.lbrsc.auckland.ac.nz [130.216.122.42]) by mailhost.auckland.ac.nz (8.9.2/8.9.2/8.9.2-ua) with SMTP id NAA10862 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 13:20:25 +1200 (NZST) Message-Id: <199907060120.NAA10862@mailhost.auckland.ac.nz> Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 13:23:30 +0000 Subject: How many pounds is a pound? X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) From: "Michael Parkinson" To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Sender: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Errors-To: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Loop: dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Requests: To unsubscribe from this list, or change your subscription address, send a message to dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz. Reply-To: m.parkinson@auckland.ac.nz, dq@dq.sf.org.nz Dear all, For the sake of easy conversion, etc, Could we please tweak the weight of money so that 1 POUND of Silver weighs one "every-day" POUND. i.e. 240 pennies weighs one pound (hence 1 pennyweight is 1/240th of a pound). Thus the table of Seagate currency is: Name weight Value Copper farthing (cf) 4 dwt Silver penny (sp) 1 dwt 4 cf Gold shilling (gs) 1 dwt 12 sp Truesilver guinea (tg) 2 dwt 21 gs regards, Michael. Michael Parkinson Mathematics & Statistics Subject Librarian Science Library, University of Auckland, Private Bag 92019, AUCKLAND, N.Z. Email: m.parkinson@auckland.ac.nz Phone: (09) 3737 599 x 5858 Fax: (09) 3082 304 -------------------------------- I say that as far as the truth of which mathematical proofs give us knowledge, it is the same truth that Divine wisdom recognises -- Galileo (tr.), "Diologo." -- see unsubscribe instructions in message headers -- From owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Tue Jul 6 17:03:47 1999 Received: (from bin@localhost) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) id RAA13814; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:03:47 +1200 Received: from smtp2.ihug.co.nz (tk2.ihug.co.nz [203.29.160.14]) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) with ESMTP id RAA13811 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:03:46 +1200 Received: from jimarona.ihug.co.nz (p101-tnt2.akl.ihug.co.nz [203.109.245.101]) by smtp2.ihug.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id QAA29282 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 16:47:07 +1200 Subject: Re: Minutes from July Gods Meeting Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 16:48:22 +1200 Message-ID: <01bec76a$c6d8a460$65f56dcb@jimarona.ihug.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 From: "Jim Arona" To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Sender: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Errors-To: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Loop: dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Requests: To unsubscribe from this list, or change your subscription address, send a message to dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz. Reply-To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz > >The current spell description reads "The Adept has a Base Chance equal to their >Perception (+ 5 / Rank) of seeing >objects which are normally invisible or which have been rendered invisible >by magical means (i.e. such spells as Walking Unseen, Blending, and >Invisibility). " > >We voted to change this to "... seeing entities or objects ... " > In which case, why were there dissentors? I wonder what the reason for dissent was? Jim. -- see unsubscribe instructions in message headers -- From owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Tue Jul 6 17:23:06 1999 Received: (from bin@localhost) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) id RAA13862; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:23:06 +1200 Received: from smtp2.ihug.co.nz (tk2.ihug.co.nz [203.29.160.14]) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) with ESMTP id RAA13859 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:23:05 +1200 Received: from paul (p11-max14.akl.ihug.co.nz [203.109.227.203]) by smtp2.ihug.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id RAA01288 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:06:24 +1200 Message-ID: <00e401bec76d$d2e5f0c0$0c64640a@paul> Subject: Re: Minutes from July Gods Meeting Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:10:10 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 From: "Paul Schmidt" To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Sender: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Errors-To: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Loop: dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Requests: To unsubscribe from this list, or change your subscription address, send a message to dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz. Reply-To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Having been at the meeting, I think the dissent was of the nature that when William was dissenting, Andrew wasn't and vice versa. When this was pointed out and the nature of the connectivity of their arms was measured, they both voted the same way on the next point (but Jonno dissented instead). Basically it was a joke by all parties, not true dissent. Cheers Paul >>The current spell description reads "The Adept has a Base Chance equal to >their >>Perception (+ 5 / Rank) of seeing >>objects which are normally invisible or which have been rendered invisible >>by magical means (i.e. such spells as Walking Unseen, Blending, and >>Invisibility). " >> >>We voted to change this to "... seeing entities or objects ... " >> >In which case, why were there dissentors? I wonder what the reason for >dissent was? >Jim. > > > > >-- see unsubscribe instructions in message headers -- > > -- see unsubscribe instructions in message headers -- From owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Tue Jul 6 17:37:11 1999 Received: (from bin@localhost) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) id RAA13894; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:37:11 +1200 Received: from fclaklmr01.fcl.co.nz (mail.fcl.co.nz [203.98.14.148]) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) with ESMTP id RAA13891 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:36:51 +1200 Received: from falaklnt000.falum.co.nz ([10.8.1.20]) by fclaklmr01.fcl.co.nz (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id nz for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:20:06 +1200 Received: by falaklnt000.falum.co.nz with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BEC7D3.C14CDF20@falaklnt000.falum.co.nz>; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:19:50 +1200 Message-ID: Subject: RE: Minutes from July Gods Meeting Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:19:47 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Andrew Withy (FAL AKL)" To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Sender: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Errors-To: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Loop: dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Requests: To unsubscribe from this list, or change your subscription address, send a message to dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz. Reply-To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Two people abstained - one was making coffee. I can't remember why the other abstained. It certainly wasn't a chaos-filled and heated argument with a minority beaten down and suppressed under a tyranny of democracy. Andrew >---------- > >> >>The current spell description reads "The Adept has a Base Chance equal to >their >>Perception (+ 5 / Rank) of seeing >>objects which are normally invisible or which have been rendered invisible >>by magical means (i.e. such spells as Walking Unseen, Blending, and >>Invisibility). " >> >>We voted to change this to "... seeing entities or objects ... " >> >In which case, why were there dissentors? I wonder what the reason for >dissent was? >Jim. > -- see unsubscribe instructions in message headers -- From owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Tue Jul 6 17:39:12 1999 Received: (from bin@localhost) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) id RAA13907; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:39:12 +1200 Received: from smtp2.ihug.co.nz (tk2.ihug.co.nz [203.29.160.14]) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) with ESMTP id RAA13904 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:39:11 +1200 Received: from jimarona.ihug.co.nz (p101-tnt2.akl.ihug.co.nz [203.109.245.101]) by smtp2.ihug.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id RAA04970 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:22:32 +1200 Subject: Re: Minutes from July Gods Meeting Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:23:45 +1200 Message-ID: <01bec76f$b846d660$65f56dcb@jimarona.ihug.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 From: "Jim Arona" To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Sender: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Errors-To: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Loop: dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Requests: To unsubscribe from this list, or change your subscription address, send a message to dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz. Reply-To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Aha... I am much relieved, then... 'Cause, I hadn't thought about the voting, and I thought that this month's God's Meeting could congratulate itself on some damned fine work. When Martin pointed it out, I was wondering if the dissent was someone being hopelessly conservative... Jim. -----Original Message----- From: Paul Schmidt To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Date: Tuesday, 6 July 1999 17:06 Subject: Re: Minutes from July Gods Meeting >Having been at the meeting, I think the dissent was of the nature that when >William was dissenting, Andrew wasn't and vice versa. When this was pointed >out and the nature of the connectivity of their arms was measured, they >both voted the same way on the next point (but Jonno dissented instead). >Basically it was a joke by all parties, not true dissent. > >Cheers >Paul > >>>The current spell description reads "The Adept has a Base Chance equal to >>their >>>Perception (+ 5 / Rank) of seeing >>>objects which are normally invisible or which have been rendered invisible >>>by magical means (i.e. such spells as Walking Unseen, Blending, and >>>Invisibility). " >>> >>>We voted to change this to "... seeing entities or objects ... " >>> >>In which case, why were there dissentors? I wonder what the reason for >>dissent was? >>Jim. >> >> >> >> >>-- see unsubscribe instructions in message headers -- >> >> > > > >-- see unsubscribe instructions in message headers -- > > -- see unsubscribe instructions in message headers -- From owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Tue Jul 6 17:35:44 1999 Received: (from bin@localhost) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) id RAA13887; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:35:44 +1200 Received: from fclaklmr01.fcl.co.nz (mail.fcl.co.nz [203.98.14.148]) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) with ESMTP id RAA13884 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:35:39 +1200 Received: from falaklnt000.falum.co.nz ([10.8.1.20]) by fclaklmr01.fcl.co.nz (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id nz for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:19:14 +1200 Received: by falaklnt000.falum.co.nz with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BEC7D3.78F93F20@falaklnt000.falum.co.nz>; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:17:49 +1200 Message-ID: Subject: RE: How many pounds is a pound? Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:17:48 +1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Andrew Withy (FAL AKL)" To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Sender: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Errors-To: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Loop: dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Requests: To unsubscribe from this list, or change your subscription address, send a message to dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz. Reply-To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Then silver pennies (and other coins?) weigh 1/15 of an ounce, rather than the current 1/20th of an ounce. However, 240sp is not a meaningful value to adventurers. Neither is a pennyweight an encumbrance unit. I'd rather have 250sp or 500sp = 1 pound, as most adventurers work in multiples of 1000. 1000sp = 4 pounds is a lot simpler than 1000sp = 4lb 2 2/3 oz. Andrew >---------- >From: Michael Parkinson[SMTP:M.parkinson@auckland.ac.nz] >Dear all, > >For the sake of easy conversion, etc, Could we please tweak the weight of >money so that 1 POUND of Silver weighs one "every-day" POUND. > >i.e. 240 pennies weighs one pound (hence 1 pennyweight is 1/240th of a >pound). > >Thus the table of Seagate currency is: > >Name weight Value >Copper farthing (cf) 4 dwt >Silver penny (sp) 1 dwt 4 cf >Gold shilling (gs) 1 dwt 12 sp >Truesilver guinea (tg) 2 dwt 21 gs > >regards, Michael. > -- see unsubscribe instructions in message headers -- From owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Tue Jul 6 17:51:20 1999 Received: (from bin@localhost) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) id RAA13951; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:51:20 +1200 Received: from smtp2.ihug.co.nz (tk2.ihug.co.nz [203.29.160.14]) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) with ESMTP id RAA13948 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:51:19 +1200 Received: from jimarona.ihug.co.nz (p101-tnt2.akl.ihug.co.nz [203.109.245.101]) by smtp2.ihug.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id RAA07520 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:34:40 +1200 Subject: Re: Minutes from July Gods Meeting Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:35:56 +1200 Message-ID: <01bec771$6bc29a20$65f56dcb@jimarona.ihug.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 From: "Jim Arona" To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Sender: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Errors-To: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Loop: dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Requests: To unsubscribe from this list, or change your subscription address, send a message to dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz. Reply-To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Ah...Democracy...Love it or hate it, it's like fungus... Jim -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Withy (FAL AKL) To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Date: Tuesday, 6 July 1999 17:20 Subject: RE: Minutes from July Gods Meeting >Two people abstained - one was making coffee. I can't remember why the >other abstained. It certainly wasn't a chaos-filled and heated argument >with a minority beaten down and suppressed under a tyranny of democracy. > >Andrew >>---------- >> >>> >>>The current spell description reads "The Adept has a Base Chance equal to >>their >>>Perception (+ 5 / Rank) of seeing >>>objects which are normally invisible or which have been rendered invisible >>>by magical means (i.e. such spells as Walking Unseen, Blending, and >>>Invisibility). " >>> >>>We voted to change this to "... seeing entities or objects ... " >>> >>In which case, why were there dissentors? I wonder what the reason for >>dissent was? >>Jim. >> > > >-- see unsubscribe instructions in message headers -- > > -- see unsubscribe instructions in message headers --