From owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Wed Nov 24 09:14:42 1999 Received: (from bin@localhost) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) id JAA09387; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:05:30 +1300 Received: from peace.com (defacto.peace.co.nz [202.14.141.225]) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) with SMTP id JAA09384 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:05:28 +1300 Message-ID: <383AF161.9E2BA3DB@peace.com> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 08:56:17 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Good And Evil. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Martin Dickson To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Sender: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Errors-To: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Precedence: bulk X-Loop: dq@dq.sf.org.nz X-Requests: To unsubscribe from this list, or change your subscription address, send a request to dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz. To unsubscribe from all lists on this site, send a request to -request@dq.sf.org.nz. Reply-To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Jim Arona wrote: > According to standard Demonlogy, Demons fall into two broad categories. > They are either fallen angels, or they are false gods, which is to say that > they are deific figures that are, however, not capable of creating life, the > world and everything. That, it would appear, is the province of God. Standard Demonology/Angelology also depends on the (at least notional) existence of an ultimate power... God/Allah/Call it what you will. Fallen angels (Lucifer, etc) must fall from the grace of a higher power... similarly false gods (baal, moloch) can only be false in comparison with a true god. Since no such highest power has ever existed in the commonly shared DQ universe it is hard for angels or demons to take their usual cosmological/theological place and other rationales must be sought -- either by GMs or at the very least by mortal philosophers. > Whatever else they are, they are supposed to be elementally evil. Even > if they seem nice, they are in fact working to defeat and confound human > goodness wherever it may occur. Demons are supposed to be cunning and clever > at concealing their evil. Evil, and cunning and clever... agreed. The point here is that they may *seem* nice...; but they are really manipulating mortals to their own nefarious ends. As for elementally evil... I think once more this is a case of being in direct and absolute opposition to a higher power or principle of good... something DQ mythology lacks. Cheers, Martin -- _/_/ Peace Software New Zealand Ltd Email: Martin.Dickson@peace.com _/ Martin Dickson Fax : +64-9-373-0401 Analyst Phone: +64-9-373-0400 -- see unsubscribe instructions in message headers -- From owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Wed Nov 24 09:29:23 1999 Received: (from bin@localhost) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) id JAA09442; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:23:53 +1300 Received: from akl-notes.aj.co.nz (ns.aj.co.nz [202.27.194.165]) by mail.sf.org.nz (8.8.6/NZSFI-19980830) with ESMTP id JAA09439 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:23:50 +1300 Subject: Re: Notice posted by Bozo on 5th Thaw X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0 (Intl) 30 March 1999 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:07:59 +1300 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on akl-notes.aj.co.nz/AJNzl/NZ(Release 5.0.2 (Intl)|4 November 1999) at 24/11/99 09:10:17, Serialize complete at 24/11/99 09:10:17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 006E8472CC256832_=" From: RMansfield@aj.co.nz To: dq-pub@dq.sf.org.nz Sender: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Errors-To: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Precedence: bulk X-Loop: dq-pub@dq.sf.org.nz X-Requests: To unsubscribe from this list, or change your subscription address, send a request to dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz. To unsubscribe from all lists on this site, send a request to -request@dq.sf.org.nz. Reply-To: dq-pub@dq.sf.org.nz This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 006E8472CC256832_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Shemin ah was on that adventure, & oddly enough is back in the guild after a five year break. What would you like to know? Rosemary --=_alternative 006E8472CC256832_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
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