From owner-dq-announce@dq.sf.org.nz Sat Mar 3 10:27:30 2001 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.sig.net.nz (8.9.3/NZSFI-20000705) with ESMTP id KAA05431; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:27:28 +1300 Received: from smtp1.ihug.co.nz (smtp1.ihug.co.nz [203.109.252.7]) by smtp.sig.net.nz (8.9.3/NZSFI-20000705) with ESMTP id KAA05419 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:27:26 +1300 Received: from adara (203-109-204-46.nzl.ihugultra.co.nz [203.109.204.46]) by smtp1.ihug.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with SMTP id KAA11450 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:27:20 +1300 X-Authentication-Warning: smtp1.ihug.co.nz: Host 203-109-204-46.nzl.ihugultra.co.nz [203.109.204.46] claimed to be adara Message-ID: <004801c0a35f$c0f869e0$010a0a0a@adara.ihug.co.nz> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:27:01 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0045_01C0A3CC.7C3248E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Loop: dq-announce@dq.sf.org.nz Reply-To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Subject: [dq-announce] Light/Dark Aspect proposal From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ian__Wood_&_Ellen__Hume=A0&_Adara_Wood?=" To: dq-announce@dq.sf.org.nz Sender: owner-dq-announce@dq.sf.org.nz Errors-To: owner-dq-announce@dq.sf.org.nz Precedence: bulk X-Requests: To unsubscribe from this list, or change your subscription address, send a request to dq-announce-request@dq.sf.org.nz. To unsubscribe from all lists on this site, send a request to all-request@dq.sf.org.nz. This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C0A3CC.7C3248E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all Too late for those who get their email at work, but it might get to a few people before the meeting. 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However there are no rules or guidelines = within the college regarding how to classify entities for this purpose. = There are rules, guidelines, and examples in the GM Guide, which is not = readily available to players. \par }\pard\plain = \s2\sb240\sa60\keepn\nowidctlpar\widctlpar\outlinelevel1\adjustright = \b\i\f1\lang5129\cgrid {Proposal \par }\pard\plain \s15\sb120\nowidctlpar\widctlpar\adjustright = \f1\fs32\lang5129\cgrid {\fs24 Modify the final paragraph of the = introduction to the college so that it reads: \par }\pard\plain \s16\ri4053\sb120\nowidctlpar\widctlpar\adjustright = \f18\fs17\lang2057 {Most entities are aligned with either Light or Dark, = and Celestial Magics will often only affect entities of the opposed = aspect. Entities\rquote=20 fear of their opposing element gives this College special power. = }{\ul\revised\revauth1\revdttm-1504504375 Whether an entity is Light = aspected, Dark aspected, or has neither aspect, is determined per the = rules given in Light and Dark Aspect(\'a719.10).}{ \revised\revauth1\revdttm-1504504375=20 \par }\pard\plain \s15\sb120\nowidctlpar\widctlpar\adjustright = \f1\fs32\lang5129\cgrid {\fs24=20 \par Add the following beneath }{\b\fs24 19.9 Celestial Lighting = Modifier Table}{\fs24 (if layout practicalities make it easier, place = it on the previous page after 19.8 Special Knowledge Rituals, and = re-number accordingly.) \par }\pard\plain = \s2\sb240\sa60\keepn\nowidctlpar\widctlpar\outlinelevel1\adjustright = \b\i\f1\lang5129\cgrid {\i0\fs20\lang2057\cgrid0 19.10 }{\i0\fs20 Light = and Dark Aspect}{\i0\fs20\lang2057\cgrid0=20 \par }\pard\plain \s16\ri4053\sb120\nowidctlpar\widctlpar\adjustright = \f18\fs17\lang2057 {Most creatures are either Light or Dark aspected, = depending on whether they are nocturnal or diurnal (active dur ing the day). There is no direct connection between the possession of a = Light or Dark aspect and the self-styled \ldblquote Powers of Light and = Darkness\rdblquote . Entities of Light aspect are not necessarily = \ldblquote good\rdblquote=20 nor entities of Dark aspect \ldblquote evil\rdblquote . The aspect = refers only to the Entity\rquote s position with regard to the Elements = of Light and Dark. It is also differs from an entity\rquote s = astrological Aspect (see\'a7 2.5), but may be influenced by it.}{\fs20=20 \par }{To determine if an Entity is aspected with either of the elements = of Light or Dark, follow these rules: \par {\pntext\pard\plain\s17 \f3\fs17\lang5129\cgrid = \loch\af3\dbch\af0\hich\f3 \'b7\tab}}\pard\plain = \s17\fi-360\li360\ri4053\sb120\nowidctlpar\widctlpar\jclisttab\tx360{\*\p= n \pnlvlblt\ilvl0\ls3\pnrnot0\pnf3\pnstart1\pnindent360\pnhang{\pntxtb = \'b7}} \ls3\adjustright \f1\lang5129\cgrid {\f0\fs17 If the entity is a = Celestial Mage then this determines their aspect: Solar and Star Mages = are Light aspected; Shadow and Dark Mages are Dark aspected. \par {\pntext\pard\plain\s17 \f3\fs17\lang5129\cgrid = \loch\af3\dbch\af0\hich\f3 \'b7\tab}}\pard = \s17\fi-360\li360\ri4053\sb120\nowidctlpar\widctlpar\jclisttab\tx360{\*\p= n \pnlvlblt\ilvl0\ls3\pnrnot0\pnf3\pnstart1\pnindent360\pnhang{\pntxtb = \'b7}} \ls3\adjustright {\f0\fs17 If the entity is not a Celestial Mage, and is = Lunar aspected, then they are Dark aspected. Note that Shape Changers = are Lunar aspected. \par {\pntext\pard\plain\s17 \f3\fs17\lang5129\cgrid = \loch\af3\dbch\af0\hich\f3 \'b7\tab}}\pard = \s17\fi-360\li360\ri4053\sb120\nowidctlpar\widctlpar\jclisttab\tx360{\*\p= n \pnlvlblt\ilvl0\ls3\pnrnot0\pnf3\pnstart1\pnindent360\pnhang{\pntxtb = \'b7}} \ls3\adjustright {\f0\fs17 If the entity is not a Celestial Mage, and is = Solar aspected, they are Light aspected. \par {\pntext\pard\plain\s17 \f3\fs17\lang5129\cgrid = \loch\af3\dbch\af0\hich\f3 \'b7\tab}}\pard = \s17\fi-360\li360\ri4053\sb120\nowidctlpar\widctlpar\jclisttab\tx360{\*\p= n \pnlvlblt\ilvl0\ls3\pnrnot0\pnf3\pnstart1\pnindent360\pnhang{\pntxtb = \'b7}} \ls3\adjustright {\f0\fs17 If none of the above applies, then an = entity\rquote s race or type may mean that they are aspected with either = Light or Dark .Rac es or creatures that are nocturnal, crepuscular (active at twilight) or = live predominantly underground are Dark aspected (Alusian examples : = Dwarves, Orcs, most cats, bats, wolves). Races and creatures that are = diurnal, and who do not live underground are Light aspected. Golems, Elementals, and Beings of Mana or Spirit (or = their manifestations) are neither Light nor Dark aspected. \par }} ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C0A3CC.7C3248E0-- -- to unsubscribe see http://www.kurahaupo.gen.nz/mailing-lists.html -- From owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Sat Mar 3 10:35:59 2001 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.sig.net.nz (8.9.3/NZSFI-20000705) with ESMTP id KAA05498; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:35:58 +1300 Received: from intro.peace.co.nz (intro.peace.co.nz [202.14.141.227]) by smtp.sig.net.nz (8.9.3/NZSFI-20000705) with ESMTP id KAA05486 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:35:56 +1300 Message-ID: <3AA0130F.17CDA284@peace.com> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 10:39:27 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Loop: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Reply-To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Subject: Re: [dq] Light/Dark Aspect proposal From: Martin Dickson To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Sender: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Errors-To: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Precedence: bulk X-Requests: To unsubscribe from this list, or change your subscription address, send a request to dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz. To unsubscribe from all lists on this site, send a request to all-request@dq.sf.org.nz. Hi Ian, If the Character Gen section doesn't state explicit Light ?Dark for each of the PC races then you may want to do so in 19.10 Dark === Dwarf Orc Halfling (Shapechangers = Lunar) Giant?? Light === Human Elf Giant?? Cheers, Martin Ian Wood & Ellen Hume & Adara Wood wrote: > Hi all > > Too late for those who get their email at work, but it might get to a few > people before the meeting. > > Cheers > Errol > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Name: Celestial Add.rtf > Celestial Add.rtf Type: Microsoft Word Document (application/msword) > Encoding: quoted-printable -- _/_/ Peace Software New Zealand Ltd Email: Martin.Dickson@peace.com _/ Martin Dickson Fax : +64-9-373-0401 Analyst Phone: +64-9-373-0400 -- to unsubscribe see http://www.kurahaupo.gen.nz/mailing-lists.html -- From owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Sat Mar 3 11:19:41 2001 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.sig.net.nz (8.9.3/NZSFI-20000705) with ESMTP id LAA05701; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 11:19:40 +1300 Received: from smtp1.ihug.co.nz (smtp1.ihug.co.nz [203.109.252.7]) by smtp.sig.net.nz (8.9.3/NZSFI-20000705) with ESMTP id LAA05689 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 11:19:38 +1300 Received: from adara (203-109-204-173.nzl.ihugultra.co.nz [203.109.204.173]) by smtp1.ihug.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with SMTP id LAA15104 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 11:19:35 +1300 X-Authentication-Warning: smtp1.ihug.co.nz: Host 203-109-204-173.nzl.ihugultra.co.nz [203.109.204.173] claimed to be adara Message-ID: <005401c0a367$0d5e0b80$010a0a0a@adara.ihug.co.nz> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 11:19:56 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Loop: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Reply-To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Subject: Re: [dq] Light/Dark Aspect proposal From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ian__Wood_&_Ellen__Hume=A0&_Adara_Wood?=" To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Sender: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Errors-To: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Precedence: bulk X-Requests: To unsubscribe from this list, or change your subscription address, send a request to dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz. To unsubscribe from all lists on this site, send a request to all-request@dq.sf.org.nz. Thankyou, good point We can certainly have the below as an amendment to be voted on. It is probably a good way of addressing the Character Gen vs college issue. BTW, Giants are Light (per GM Guide, and the older interpretation that I have) Shapechangers technically are one or the other (depending on their form? who knows), which is then 'over-written' by their being Lunar. The only other explicit example that may cause problems (and may deserve wider distribution than the GM Guide alone), is Zombies and Skeletons, who are the aspect of their animator (so Humans and Elf/Drow necros make light ones). Cheers Errol (apologies for the email split personality - if Ian and I have significantly differing opinions on anything, I post using my hotmail) -----Original Message----- From: Martin Dickson To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Date: Saturday, 3 March 2001 10:36 Subject: Re: [dq] Light/Dark Aspect proposal >Hi Ian, > >If the Character Gen section doesn't state explicit Light ?Dark for each of >the PC races then you may want to do so in 19.10 > >Dark >=== >Dwarf >Orc >Halfling >(Shapechangers = Lunar) >Giant?? > >Light >=== > >Human >Elf >Giant?? > > >Cheers, >Martin > > > >Ian Wood & Ellen Hume & Adara Wood wrote: > >> Hi all >> >> Too late for those who get their email at work, but it might get to a few >> people before the meeting. >> >> Cheers >> Errol >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- - >> Name: Celestial Add.rtf >> Celestial Add.rtf Type: Microsoft Word Document (application/msword) >> Encoding: quoted-printable > >-- > > _/_/ Peace Software New Zealand Ltd Email: Martin.Dickson@peace.com >_/ Martin Dickson Fax : +64-9-373-0401 > Analyst Phone: +64-9-373-0400 > > > > > >-- to unsubscribe see http://www.kurahaupo.gen.nz/mailing-lists.html -- > -- to unsubscribe see http://www.kurahaupo.gen.nz/mailing-lists.html --