From owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Thu Mar 8 00:05:51 2001 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.sig.net.nz (8.9.3/NZSFI-20000705) with ESMTP id AAA20024; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:05:50 +1300 Received: from smtp2.ihug.co.nz (root@smtp2.ihug.co.nz [203.109.252.8]) by smtp.sig.net.nz (8.9.3/NZSFI-20000705) with ESMTP id AAA20012 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:05:49 +1300 Received: from ihug.co.nz (p15-tnt6.akl.ihug.co.nz [203.173.208.15]) by smtp2.ihug.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA08560 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:05:43 +1300 X-Authentication-Warning: smtp2.ihug.co.nz: Host p15-tnt6.akl.ihug.co.nz [203.173.208.15] claimed to be ihug.co.nz Message-ID: <3AA7674C.197A25F7@ihug.co.nz> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 00:04:44 +1300 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Reply-To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Subject: Re: [dq] value of Crystals of Vision From: Jim Arona To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Sender: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Errors-To: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Unsubscribe-All: "Andrew Withy (DSL AK)" wrote: > > Hi All, > I'm drawing up my treasure list for my party. > > What is the guild value of a Rank 20 Crystal of Vision with no extra > features and (virtually) no drawbacks? > The cost to make is constant for all ranks, so doesn't seem right. Yes, it isn't great, but that's what it costs. I suppose you could offer what the market will bear. > Also, what is the value of a trainable, domesticated, regenerating Rhino? Free, I suppose. How much do you think it will cost to keep this beast fed? -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz -- From owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Thu Mar 8 00:09:50 2001 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.sig.net.nz (8.9.3/NZSFI-20000705) with ESMTP id AAA20057; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:09:50 +1300 Received: from mx1.datacom.co.nz (mx1.datacom.co.nz [202.27.76.230]) by smtp.sig.net.nz (8.9.3/NZSFI-20000705) with ESMTP id AAA20045 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:09:48 +1300 Received: from dslak12.dslak.co.nz (not verified[172.25.10.119]) by mx1.datacom.co.nz with MailMarshal (4,0,6,0) id ; Thu, 08 Mar 2001 00:09:46 +1300 Received: by dslak12.dnznet.co.nz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:09:45 +1300 Message-ID: <47E0B9F9F429D311958600508B4AB6E903E0B6E2@dslak12.dnznet.co.nz> Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:09:38 +1300 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) X-BeenThere: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Reply-To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Subject: Re: [dq] value of Crystals of Vision From: "Andrew Withy (DSL AK)" To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Sender: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Errors-To: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Unsubscribe-All: 30 pounds of grass plus 8 pounds each of fresh produce and grains, a day and a whole lot of water. Including fencing and staff, say 5,000sp a year? Andrew -----Original Message----- From: Jim Arona [mailto:jimarona@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Friday, 9 March 2001 12:05 a.m. To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Subject: Re: [dq] value of Crystals of Vision "Andrew Withy (DSL AK)" wrote: > > Hi All, > I'm drawing up my treasure list for my party. > > What is the guild value of a Rank 20 Crystal of Vision with no extra > features and (virtually) no drawbacks? > The cost to make is constant for all ranks, so doesn't seem right. Yes, it isn't great, but that's what it costs. I suppose you could offer what the market will bear. > Also, what is the value of a trainable, domesticated, regenerating Rhino? Free, I suppose. How much do you think it will cost to keep this beast fed? -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz -- -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz -- From owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Thu Mar 8 00:21:12 2001 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.sig.net.nz (8.9.3/NZSFI-20000705) with ESMTP id AAA20119; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:21:11 +1300 Received: from smtp1.ihug.co.nz (smtp1.ihug.co.nz [203.109.252.7]) by smtp.sig.net.nz (8.9.3/NZSFI-20000705) with ESMTP id AAA20114 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:21:09 +1300 Received: from ihug.co.nz (p15-tnt6.akl.ihug.co.nz [203.173.208.15]) by smtp1.ihug.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA19185 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:21:08 +1300 X-Authentication-Warning: smtp1.ihug.co.nz: Host p15-tnt6.akl.ihug.co.nz [203.173.208.15] claimed to be ihug.co.nz Message-ID: <3AA76AEA.D192EF9E@ihug.co.nz> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 00:20:10 +1300 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Reply-To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Subject: Re: [dq] value of Crystals of Vision From: Jim Arona To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Sender: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Errors-To: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Unsubscribe-All: "Andrew Withy (DSL AK)" wrote: > > 30 pounds of grass plus 8 pounds each of fresh produce and grains, a day and > a whole lot of water. > Including fencing and staff, say 5,000sp a year? I would have said 1,000 sp a year is fine. After all, the fencing is only to appease any peasants that might see it. None of them are going to try and steal it, and there isn't really a fence that's going to stop it from wandering off and eating what it likes. And, I'd like to know what kind of staff would be brave enough to make it behave, too. Ultimately, this beast is only going to be useful to an adventurer who can convince the monster to stay nearby and not step any natives. Once lumbered with it, then they're going to have to sustain its prodigious appetite, and put up with it's overwhelming stench. Any sensible owner might set up a fund to pay off dissaffected peasants that live nearby. > > Andrew > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Arona [mailto:jimarona@ihug.co.nz] > Sent: Friday, 9 March 2001 12:05 a.m. > To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz > Subject: Re: [dq] value of Crystals of Vision > > "Andrew Withy (DSL AK)" wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > I'm drawing up my treasure list for my party. > > > > What is the guild value of a Rank 20 Crystal of Vision with no extra > > features and (virtually) no drawbacks? > > The cost to make is constant for all ranks, so doesn't seem right. > > Yes, it isn't great, but that's what it costs. I suppose you could offer > what the market will bear. > > > Also, what is the value of a trainable, domesticated, regenerating Rhino? > > Free, I suppose. How much do you think it will cost to keep this beast > fed? > > -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz -- > > -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz -- -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz -- From owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Thu Mar 8 08:59:24 2001 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.sig.net.nz (8.9.3/NZSFI-20000705) with ESMTP id IAA22542; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:59:23 +1300 Received: from smtp2.ihug.co.nz (root@smtp2.ihug.co.nz [203.109.252.8]) by smtp.sig.net.nz (8.9.3/NZSFI-20000705) with ESMTP id IAA22529 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:59:20 +1300 Received: from adara (203-109-205-189.nzl.ihugultra.co.nz [203.109.205.189]) by smtp2.ihug.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with SMTP id IAA29225 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:59:16 +1300 X-Authentication-Warning: smtp2.ihug.co.nz: Host 203-109-205-189.nzl.ihugultra.co.nz [203.109.205.189] claimed to be adara Message-ID: <001401c0a741$49b0a4c0$010a0a0a@adara.ihug.co.nz> Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:48:29 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-BeenThere: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Reply-To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Subject: Re: [dq] value of rhino From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ian__Wood_&_Ellen__Hume=A0&_Adara_Wood?=" To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Sender: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Errors-To: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Unsubscribe-All: Ian W just pointed out that the rhino horn is probably worth something (Darien is keen if it increases the chance of conception). Is it like deer horns & velvet, and grows back each year? Errol -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Withy (DSL AK) To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Date: Wednesday, 7 March 2001 23:41 Subject: [dq] value of Crystals of Vision >Hi All, >I'm drawing up my treasure list for my party. > >What is the guild value of a Rank 20 Crystal of Vision with no extra >features and (virtually) no drawbacks? >The cost to make is constant for all ranks, so doesn't seem right. > >Also, what is the value of a trainable, domesticated, regenerating Rhino? > >Thanks > >Andrew > > >-- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz -- > > -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz -- From owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Thu Mar 8 09:12:19 2001 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.sig.net.nz (8.9.3/NZSFI-20000705) with ESMTP id JAA22616; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:12:18 +1300 Received: from defacto.peace.co.nz (defacto.peace.co.nz [202.14.141.225]) by smtp.sig.net.nz (8.9.3/NZSFI-20000705) with ESMTP id JAA22604 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:12:16 +1300 Message-ID: <3AA69620.6AA86A40@peace.com> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 09:12:16 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Reply-To: michael.woodhams@peace.com Subject: Re: [dq] value of rhino From: Michael Woodhams To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Sender: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Errors-To: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Unsubscribe-All: Ian Wood & Ellen Hume & Adara Wood wrote: > Ian W just pointed out that the rhino horn is probably worth something > (Darien is keen if it increases the chance of conception). There are much easier ways of increasing conception chances. Go talk to some of the nice ladies at Slippery Rock. > Is it like deer horns & velvet, and grows back each year? I'm pretty sure the real world answer is 'no'. Given that this is a regenerating rhino, who knows? Perhaps the horn turns into a little rhino and gallops off to join up with the rest of it. -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz -- From owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Thu Mar 8 09:50:47 2001 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.sig.net.nz (8.9.3/NZSFI-20000705) with ESMTP id JAA22759; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:50:46 +1300 Received: from qedweb.qed.co.nz (moe.qed.co.nz [203.97.23.140]) by smtp.sig.net.nz (8.9.3/NZSFI-20000705) with ESMTP id JAA22746 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:50:44 +1300 X-Authentication-Warning: mae.sub.net.nz: Host moe.qed.co.nz [203.97.23.140] claimed to be qedweb.qed.co.nz Received: by localhost with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1RYHGQG0>; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:49:24 +1300 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:49:23 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Reply-To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Subject: Re: [dq] value of Crystals of Vision From: Stephen Martin To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Sender: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Errors-To: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Unsubscribe-All: Is the Rhino able to be trained as a mount for use in combat and how effective is it in combat - these are the things that the guild will judge its value on. As for maintenance, perhaps an upfront cost in bribes, land purchase/lease, token fencing etc and then an on-going annual fee (1,000sp seems a bit low and 5,000 a bit high). As for the crystal... According to a Guild Guide that I have with me the guild charges this for purchasing crystals from them: Price: 1000sp /rank plus 500sp to 2,000sp for the crystal The cost to perform the ritual is 1,000sp plus the cost of the crystal. Value it between 2,000sp and 20,000sp (+500 to 2,000sp based on it's size and quality). Where in that range depends on how much money you want to give out or how fascist the guild valuer is feeling. Cheers, Stephen. > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Withy (DSL AK) [SMTP:AndrewW@datacom.co.nz] > Sent: Wednesday, 7 March 2001 23:41 > To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz > Subject: [dq] value of Crystals of Vision > > Hi All, > I'm drawing up my treasure list for my party. > > What is the guild value of a Rank 20 Crystal of Vision with no extra > features and (virtually) no drawbacks? > The cost to make is constant for all ranks, so doesn't seem right. > > Also, what is the value of a trainable, domesticated, regenerating Rhino? > > Thanks > > Andrew > > > -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz -- -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz -- From owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Thu Mar 8 18:31:52 2001 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.sig.net.nz (8.9.3/NZSFI-20000705) with ESMTP id SAA26444; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 18:31:38 +1300 Received: from smtp4.ihug.co.nz (smtp4.ihug.co.nz [203.109.252.5]) by smtp.sig.net.nz (8.9.3/NZSFI-20000705) with ESMTP id SAA26432 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 18:31:35 +1300 Received: from work.ihug.co.nz (p37-tnt5.akl.ihug.co.nz [203.173.210.37]) by smtp4.ihug.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id SAA12840 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 18:31:33 +1300 X-Authentication-Warning: smtp4.ihug.co.nz: Host p37-tnt5.akl.ihug.co.nz [203.173.210.37] claimed to be work.ihug.co.nz Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010308172035.00b04100@pop.ihug.co.nz> X-Sender: flamis@pop.ihug.co.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 17:29:11 +1300 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-BeenThere: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Reply-To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Subject: [dq] Seagate Times From: Jacqui Smith To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Sender: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Errors-To: owner-dq@dq.sf.org.nz Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Unsubscribe-All: Just to point out that we've received very little in the way of articles for the Seagate Times, and since I have no intention of writing the entire issue myself, there won't BE a Seagate Times, unless some peoples gets theirs As into Gs and sends us some stuff. Fair enough? Jacqui -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz --