General Conversion Guidelines...
1) If a magical ability (talent/spell/ritual) has not significantly changed
then your rank in that magical ability is conserved.
2) If a magical ability has significantly changed or has been removed then
it should be explicitly identified with a recommended conversion method.
E.g. Transfer rank in spell X to same rank in new spell Y.
3) Experience, time, and money should be conserved.  
4) Exceptions to any of the above must be approved on a case by case basis
by an impartial GM.

Most of the time this isn't a big issue as most people are reasonable and
the conversion is signed off by a GM.  But it is worth having these
guidelines and specific conversion documents to make the whole process easy
for players and GMs.

I assume that there will be a new Mind conversion document following on from
Fridays discussion, I look forward to seeing it.

Cheers, Stephen.


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hi there, I am still unsure of teh problem here. MolRec was considered a
'loose' spell - probably still is. Purification is hardly a problem.

If one person wishes to cash in on a change, then that is what works for
them, and legislating against such ruleslawyering will hardly matter.

the idea was to allow a player to change some of the ep spend in case they
were unhappy with a rewrite. Teh 25 % limit was because I recognise that
some will take it as a chance to totally adjust their character...without
regard to historical needs (IE what they needed 5 years ago).

I am quite happy for there to be no conversion, just change spell names,
stats etc. But some may feel this is bad.

So what are people's proposals for a conversion document?

I am happy to wait until an acceptable one is posted to the list.

Cheers Ian



>I missed the namer conversion, but your proposal for Mind conversion is
bad.
>Changing of (25%) EP without regards to time gives Rank 20 purification for
>anyone who had Rank 6 Mol Rec or Rank 10 in any 400 EM spell. This may not
>seem that much, but the ritual/spell time difference is one of the few
>rarely-tampered with balance mechanisms that stop uber-characters from
>forming out of the cradle.
>
>People should only get to change if they are genuinely upset about a
spell's
>changes, in which case they transfer that EP over to a new spell (or
>possibly spells), keeping all changes as minimal as possible. Otherwise,
>some people will rework their ranking not because they were dissatisfied at
>the time, but because they have learnt better spells since then, etc.
>
>
>Andrew
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ian Wood & Ellen Hume & Adara Wood [mailto:adara@ihug.co.nz]
>Sent: Monday, 9 July 2001 8:18 p.m.
>To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
>Subject: [dq] Acceptance of conversion documents
>
>
>Hi all
>
>This is your "final warning" for the closing of comments on the Namer and
>Mind Conversion documents. Unless someone has major problems, we will go
>ahead as written.
>
>Cheers
>Errol
>
>
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While I see nothing wrong with the 2 conversion docs presented I feel there
needs to be  an option for a player to change college with a full refund of ep &
time if they feel it has changed so much that they would not have taken it in
it's current form.

As an example I cuurentley play a Fire Mage - Rothgar who would not have taken
the current college.  It has changed significantly from what it was originally.

I feel this should be  a standard feature of any significant change to a
college.

Scott Whitaker


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