| Subject | Re: [dq] Undetectability |
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| From | Kharsis |
| Date | Thu, 05 Jun 2003 00:30:40 +1200 |
I agree with Mandos there is no real need to replace the spell with anything else. Give a full refund of ep to be spent as per normal. Scott Whitaker Mandos wrote: >I have one quick question on this subject. > >1. Is there a lack of spells in the Mind collage such that a replacement is >required as an EP sink to assist Mind Mages avoiding TOS? > >If Mind is broad enough as it is I think the easiest solution to the problem >is to simply remove the spell with no replacement. > >Undetectability is definatly and significantly broken, I feel that if we try >tolook for a replacement or muddy the waters with other changes to the >collage we will still have a broken spell in another two years time. > >Mandos >/s > > >-- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz -- > > > > -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz -- | |
| Subject | [dq] Forgotton Things |
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| From | Mandos |
| Date | Thu, 5 Jun 2003 10:45:30 +1200 |
For next quarters agenda, can we put on it the correction to Geas, such that rank 50 will be changed to rank 15. As I think it was missed at this quarters Guild meeting. Mandos /s -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz -- | |
| Subject | [dq] Voting |
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| From | Mandos |
| Date | Thu, 5 Jun 2003 10:47:51 +1200 |
On another related matter. A few years ago we discussed rules voting online. One of the major downsides at the time was the perceived issue of GM's not having access to the net/list. Were there any GM's who attended the past few Gods meeting who do not have list access? Or would it be conceivable to consider the voting of minor issues on the list. Mandos /s -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz -- | |
| Subject | Re: [dq] Forgotton Things |
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| From | Kharsis |
| Date | Thu, 05 Jun 2003 17:02:12 +1200 |
Lets just leave Geas as it is. I feel this is a change being mad for the sake of making a change. The 2 inportant questions to be asked before making a change are 1. Is there a problem? and 2. Is there likely to ever be a problem? Geas does not qualify on either count. Currently it is a spell with a unique feature of it's own ie it can be ranked past 20. If a player spends the time & ep on ranking this spell to 50 then that's there choice - they will be very limited in anything else. Lets not change it just because we can but leave it as it is for flavour Scott Whitaker Mandos wrote: >For next quarters agenda, can we put on it the correction to Geas, such that >rank 50 will be changed to rank 15. > >As I think it was missed at this quarters Guild meeting. > >Mandos >/s > > >-- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz -- > > > > -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz -- | |
| Subject | Re: [dq] Forgotton Things |
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| From | Martin Dickson |
| Date | Thu, 05 Jun 2003 17:50:57 +1200 |
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Lets just leave Geas as it is. I feel this is a change being mad for the
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No, it's a change for the sake of fixing a typo. :-)<br>
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A typo that has spawned (albeit tiny) extra rule changes in three or so other
sections of our revised rules -- explaining that it is an exception to the
Rk 20 rule. These explanations do not exist in DQ II and one might surmise
that this is because the Rank 50 number was unintended. 'Course, one might
also surmise that the various DQ authors didn't talk to one another (which
would explain the bizzarely incongruous Mind collge EMs).<br>
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| Subject | Re: [dq] Forgotton Things |
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| From | Mandos\ D\ Shadowspawn\ Esq |
| Date | Thu, 5 Jun 2003 18:51:40 +1200 |
> Lets just leave Geas as it is. I feel this is a change being mad for > the sake of making a change. As a strong opponent of change most of time time I would normally agree, but.... > The 2 inportant questions to be asked before making a change are > 1. Is there a problem? and 2. Is there likely to ever be a problem? 1. Yes. A concerted effort has been made over the past few years to iron out the little inconsistancies and details to give an easier to understand and deal with system. While I do not believe all the changes that have been made towards this effort have been good, the intentions were certainly good. This is a minor change in line with the this policy. There is also the issue of use. Currently Geas is virtually never used (please note the term virtually before regailing me with all the times you may have seen it used) and I believe one of the main reasons for this is the typo in question. I believe that anything within the game that forces GM's to do outlandish things in order to achieve an effect is silly. Having an NPC who has ranked geas to 50 is known by all to be a fudge to get a specific effect. If such fudging has to occour in order to use the spell then it is broken. 2. Yes. As we hit TOS more and more people will rank Geas, and it may be a problem that gets argued over when more people care. I prefer to make a small change now, before a problem exists. > Geas does not qualify on either count. Currently it is a spell with a > unique feature of it's own ie it can be ranked past 20. No, its not a "unique feature" it is an irritating typo. > Lets not change it just because we can but leave it as it is for flavour It has no flavour, it is flavourless, bland, dull, dry, unused, and basically a stupid typo. Yes change for changes sake is stupid, but more serious issues have been corrected in spellchecking and I fail to see why there is so much fuss. I have proposed it for the agenda, it can go to the vote and just maybe we can fix this pesky annoyance. Mandos /s -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz -- | |