SubjectRe: [dq] Regis Keep
FromErrol Cavit
DateTue, 21 Dec 2004 11:52:05 +1300
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Speaking of Regis Keep, when was the opportunity to assist made known to
Guild members? Obviously it was announced at the Summer Meeting, but would
keen (right-thinking) members be able to help out before then? If not at the
outpost, then with the military forces?

Cheers
Errol

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Smith [mailto:phaeton@ihug.co.nz]
> Sent: Saturday, 18 December 2004 2:17 p.m.
> To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
> Subject: [dq] Regis Keep
> 
> 
> Note for the Campaign Committee:
> 
> Phaeton is spending this entire session down at Regis Keep.  
> This gives 
> them access to a Rank 10 Healer as well as a supply of Star Wings.
> 
> Keith
> 
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cheers</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT>
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SubjectRe: [dq] DQ Rulebook 2005
FromStephen Martin
DateTue, 21 Dec 2004 11:58:59 +1300 (NZDT)
-- Moving this to [DQ] as suggested --

> But is it too much to have something like:
> Changes for last rulebook (IIRC current wording needs updating)

Not especially relevant any more but yes we can leave the lists of applied changes up there.

> Proposals for rules changes to be voted on.

I have a page for this there already.  Basically a repository of the latest proposed version for
people to refer to.

> Voted in changes, not yet published (currently empty, potential Spy in near future)

Yes, we could add this as the temporary pen for approved changes.  But I'd prefer if they were
added into the Editing changes when they are approved.  Otherwise they will sit here and not get
done.

> Editing changes - list of simple, stand-alone corrections (most of Andrew W's document from
> June)
> Editing changes - multi-section presentation changes (as people write them up)

I think these should be one section, which is the new & to be changed bits of the rules.
If there is an accepted change that affects 3 areas of the rules then it will result in 3 changed
sections in here.
This isn't supposed to be a discussion area, it is supposed to be the details of exactly what
changes are to be applied to the rules.

> Player's Guide issues (a central point to collect noted issues seems useful).

Good point!


Errol Cavit said:
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Martin [mailto:stephenm@castle.pointclark.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, 21 December 2004 8:28 a.m.
> Subject: RE: DQ Rulebook 2004 - more comments
>
>
> Starting on this process early is an excellent idea.  I don't want to be in the position of
> discussing and making changes a week before we are supposed to be handing it out.
> Previously I have suggested picking a publishing date and then setting "change freeze" deadlines
> at 3 or 6 months before then.  But that hasn't been popular and hasn't worked.
>
> I'd like to turn it around a bit and suggest that we start building up the list of changes,
> discuss them, tweak them, and finalise them as we have interest and time.
> Then once everyone agrees there are no more changes we set a publishing date (e.g. the next
> guild meeting at that point) and make no more changes from then on.
>
> I'd also like to suggest we have an on-line forum for maintaining the list of changes we will
> make.  And thank to the wonders of modern technology, here is one I prepared earlier...
> http://lore.castle.pointclark.net/wiki/wiki.phtml?title=Pending_Rule_Changes
> <http://lore.castle.pointclark.net/wiki/wiki.phtml?title=Pending_Rule_Change s>
>
> The idea is that this is the specific list of new and changed bit organised by and linked to the
> relevant section of the rules.  There is a full audit trail of all changes tagged by the login
> of whoever made the change.
>
>
> I think we should separate proposals for voting on from the dozens of proposed editing changes.
> Otherwise the more important stuff gets lost in the detail.
> Some editing changes aren't easy to present in this format. For instance IIRC I looking at
> various ways to cover ranking of Names, and I was seriously considering 3 different approaches,
> each of which impacted up to 3 different rules sections. Such proposals need to be presented
> together to make sense.
>
> I'm currently [1] somewhat limited in my ability to suggest format changes on the Wiki by work
> insisting that web access be used for work. But is it too much to have something like:
> Changes for last rulebook (IIRC current wording needs updating)
> Voted in changes, not yet published (currently empty, potential Spy in near future)
> Proposals for rules changes to be voted on.
> Editing changes - list of simple, stand-alone corrections (most of Andrew W's document from
> June)
> Editing changes - multi-section presentation changes (as people write them up)
> Player's Guide issues (a central point to collect noted issues seems useful).
>
>  While there is the capability to discuss the page on the wiki, I think
> we're better off continuing to use the email group for that.
>
>
> Agreed, although we should perhaps move discussion to [dq], or formalise a [dq-edit] list.
>
>
> And one final point, I don't own this process, I don't want to be the only one making changes on
> here.  It is designed to be a collaborative format, any of us can contribute and make changes as
> and when we can.
>
> I put this stuff in there as a starting example.  I'd like to go through all of the editing
> reviews and add in the ones that didn't make the rules.
>
> Cheers, Stephen.
>  <snip>
>
> [1] I can access work e-mail from home, but not at the same time as the web with my existing
> set-up. Arrrggghhh! My own fault for using dial-up.
>
> Cheers
> Errol


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SubjectRe: [dq] Regis Keep
FromStephen Martin
DateTue, 21 Dec 2004 12:36:11 +1300 (NZDT)
btw I thought it was Regar's Keep.

The Eltrandorian troops arrived in late spring, it was hearing of this and the other events of
spring that led to me (as a player) initiating the Regar's Keep outpost (with approval from the
campaign committee).
While it was not officially announced until the meeting, I think it's reasonable that it was being
openly discussed throughout late spring and any character that wants to can have taken part in the
discussions and actions then.
Braegon spent the last week before the guild meeting at Regar's Keep constructing some basic
fortifications and buildings outside the keep.  So that we have our own independent walled redoubt
that we can work from.  He'll be back down there after the current bought of world saving. :)

Of course if you simply want to serve with a military force then the guild has a long standing
relationship with the Castellan Borderers, I believe that Mordrin is always happy to take the
names of new volunteers.  It's only slightly higher risk...

The outpost is intended as a way for characters who are not part of Dark Circle related adventures
to be involved during non-adventuring time.  The more player/character driven contributions we
have towards this the better.
In Game - the guild agreed to support this because it's the "right" thing to do. :)  And becuase
it's potentially good PR with the Western Kingdom and independent Barronies, which we don't
normally get a lot of.
To help with this any (character) troubadors that are able to compose "artistic" works (stories,
poems, songs, puppet shows _if_ you must) that will spread the news of our great contribution to
the fight against the darkness would be greatly appreciated.  Some basis on facts and actual
events is required.


Cheers, Stephen.


Errol Cavit said:
> Speaking of Regis Keep, when was the opportunity to assist made known to Guild members?
> Obviously it was announced at the Summer Meeting, but would keen (right-thinking) members be
> able to help out before then? If not at the outpost, then with the military forces?
>
> Cheers
> Errol
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Keith Smith [mailto:phaeton@ihug.co.nz]
>> Sent: Saturday, 18 December 2004 2:17 p.m.
>> To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
>> Subject: [dq] Regis Keep
>>
>>
>> Note for the Campaign Committee:
>>
>> Phaeton is spending this entire session down at Regis Keep.
>> This gives
>> them access to a Rank 10 Healer as well as a supply of Star Wings.
>>
>> Keith
>>
>>
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SubjectRe: [dq] Regis Keep
FromMartin Dickson
DateTue, 21 Dec 2004 12:49:09 +1300
Stephen Martin wrote:

>To help with this any (character) troubadors that are able to compose "artistic" works (stories,
>poems, songs, puppet shows _if_ you must)... would be greatly appreciated.
>
Mime will _not_ be appreciated. :-)

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SubjectRe: [dq] Regis Keep
FromErrol Cavit
DateTue, 21 Dec 2004 16:07:29 +1300
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Dickson [mailto:martin.dickson@peace.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 21 December 2004 12:49 p.m.
> To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
> Subject: Re: [dq] Regis Keep
> 
> 
> Stephen Martin wrote:
> 
> >To help with this any (character) troubadours that are able 
> to compose "artistic" works (stories,
> >poems, songs, puppet shows _if_ you must)... would be 
> greatly appreciated.
> >
> Mime will _not_ be appreciated. :-)

In fact, there will be insistence that such works be performed where the
inhabitants of the Dark Circle receive the message. I can arrange for your
delivery...

Darien

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Stephen Martin wrote:</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;To help with this any (character) =
troubadours that are able </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; to compose &quot;artistic&quot; works =
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;poems, songs, puppet shows _if_ you =
must)... would be </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; greatly appreciated.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Mime will _not_ be appreciated. :-)</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>In fact, there will be insistence that such works be =
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SubjectRe: [dq] Regar's Keep
FromKeith Smith
DateTue, 21 Dec 2004 16:18:04 +1300
>btw I thought it was Regar's Keep.

You're right. It is Regar's Keep.  Regis was my typo and I take full 
responsibility for it.

>The Eltrandorian troops arrived in late spring, it was hearing of this and 
>the other events of
>spring that led to me (as a player) initiating the Regar's Keep outpost 
>(with approval from the
>campaign committee).
>While it was not officially announced until the meeting, I think it's 
>reasonable that it was being
>openly discussed throughout late spring and any character that wants to 
>can have taken part in the
>discussions and actions then.

The first I heard about it was in the latest issue of the Seagate Times and 
Phaeton headed down there as soon as possible to help out the troops, and 
maybe even blast the odd undead minion himself.

>The outpost is intended as a way for characters who are not part of Dark 
>Circle related adventures
>to be involved during non-adventuring time.  The more player/character 
>driven contributions we
>have towards this the better.
>In Game - the guild agreed to support this because it's the "right" thing 
>to do. :)  And becuase
>it's potentially good PR with the Western Kingdom and independent 
>Barronies, which we don't
>normally get a lot of.
>To help with this any (character) troubadors that are able to compose 
>"artistic" works (stories,
>poems, songs, puppet shows _if_ you must) that will spread the news of our 
>great contribution to
>the fight against the darkness would be greatly appreciated.  Some basis 
>on facts and actual
>events is required.

A representative of the Seagate Times, as well as an airmage, Aurora 
Steelwind, will also be down there as the SGT's on the spot reporter. (OOC: 
please send any news stories in as soon as they come to hand. I want to see 
a Regar's Keep column in the next issue please.

Incidently, if possible, I'd like an article on the History of the Dark 
Circle for the next issue, so that the newer Guild members know what it is, 
and how it came about. Can anyone do that please?

Keith


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