Subject[dq] Binders
FromMandos Mitchinson
DateSun, 24 Jul 2005 13:50:08 +1200
I was just confirming their evil when I noted that there is no range on the
talent of Activate Golem.

Should there be one?

Mandos
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SubjectRe: [dq] Binders
FromCosmo
DateSun, 24 Jul 2005 14:32:21 +1200
Mandos Mitchinson wrote:

>I was just confirming their evil when I noted that there is no range on the
>talent of Activate Golem.
>
>Should there be one?
>
>Mandos
>/s
>
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Well, I'll be...   ...yes, there definitely should.  Touch is probably 
the most sensible, perhaps accompanied by a simple appropriate action, 
such as inscribing a rune, pulling a string, or winding a large key   :)

Instant Golem (S9) does *implicitly* allow them to activate a golem at 
range, but not an already fashioned one.  But that might have to be 
clarified at the same time if this ammended.


ben


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SubjectRe: [dq] Binders
FromJohanna and Hamish
DateSun, 24 Jul 2005 15:02:18 +1200
I didn't think evil existed in the DQ world

Just one group of mad men hell bent on killing another and the same from the
other side each thinking the other is evil :)

Hamish Brown
Director

Zenergy
Whole People Co-operating in a Sustainable world
119 Mt Eden Rd,
Auckland
www.zenergyglobal.com 


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Subject: Re: [dq] Binders

Mandos Mitchinson wrote:

>I was just confirming their evil when I noted that there is no range on the
>talent of Activate Golem.
>
>Should there be one?
>
>Mandos
>/s
>
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Well, I'll be...   ...yes, there definitely should.  Touch is probably 
the most sensible, perhaps accompanied by a simple appropriate action, 
such as inscribing a rune, pulling a string, or winding a large key   :)

Instant Golem (S9) does *implicitly* allow them to activate a golem at 
range, but not an already fashioned one.  But that might have to be 
clarified at the same time if this ammended.


ben


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SubjectRe: [dq] Binders
FromHelen Saggers
DateSun, 24 Jul 2005 18:01:55 +1200
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Have you ever though we binders (all of what 4 PCs), like I like that. We
are after all evil :-)

 

Personally I like being able to yell "hey you fetch my breakfast" at the
golem whose head is poking out of my pack, having activated it from the
warmth of my bed.

Not to mention being half way though fitting that tricky piece in some
mechanical trap and realizing you need an extra hand just there, NOW.

 

We've been fine with the talent for years and this is the first time anyone
has realized there is no x ft range.

 

Why do we need a fixed range? 

Are you thinking we want to activate our golems from half way across the
continent? 

What would be the point? 

To put the kettle on so we can have hot tea when we get home? 

How do I tell it what I want it to do?

 

Golems have a useful activation range, and therefore an implied activation
range it's the range of your voice. As "Golems must be verbally instructed",
if you were to activate one and it could not hear you instructions it would
probably just stand and wait or at best come looking for its master. 

 

This means you could probably summon one from the next room, but delivering
a statue to activate from miles away later and have it kill someone would
not. 

 

Remote activation is covered in instant golem under investment and wards,
one would think this would apply to magic traps too.

 

Helen

 

                                                             

Mandos Mitchinson wrote:

 

>I was just confirming their evil when I noted that there is no range on the

>talent of Activate Golem.

> 

>Should there be one?

> 

>Mandos

 

 

>Well, I'll be...   ...yes, there definitely should.  Touch is probably 

>the most sensible, perhaps accompanied by a simple appropriate action, 

>such as inscribing a rune, pulling a string, or winding a large key   :)

 

ben

 

 

 


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in some
mechanical trap and realizing you need an extra hand just there, =
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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10.0pt'>Are you thinking we want to activate our golems from half way =
across
the continent? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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10.0pt'>Golems have a useful activation range, and therefore an implied
activation range it&#8217;s the range of your voice. As &quot;Golems =
must be
verbally instructed&quot;, if you were to activate one and it could not =
hear
you instructions it would probably just stand and wait or at best come =
looking
for its master. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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10.0pt'>This means you could probably summon one from the next room, but =
delivering
a statue to activate from miles away later and have it kill someone =
would not. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt'>Remote activation is covered in instant golem under investment =
and wards,
one would think this would apply to magic traps =
too.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Touch is probably <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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appropriate
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large
key&nbsp;&nbsp; :)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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