Subject[dq] jumping rules
FromNoel\ Livingston\ \(DSL\ AK\)
DateFri, 16 Sep 2005 09:56:18 +1200
I had the party trying to jump between buildings last session and
noticed there are no rules for this. What seems reasonable to other gms
? ( I used an Ag+PS roll)

Cheers Noel


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SubjectRe: [dq] jumping rules
FromStephen Martin
DateFri, 16 Sep 2005 10:55:59 +1200 (NZST)
I would tend to base it on modified agility (which factors in PS for encum.).

Assuming a run-up, something like:
Jumping (AG / 2) feet requires a 5 x AG check.
Then probably modify the AG check difficulty by 1 per two feet more or less than that.

So if you are an 'average' adventurer with 15 AG you can jump 8 feet with a 75% chance of it all
going well.  Or:
15% chance of jumping 16'
30% chance of jumping 14'
45% chance of jumping 12'
60% chance of jumping 10'
90% chance of jumping 6'
Auto-success for jumping 4'

Whereas a 26 AG guild beast with 21% greater on Skills/Stats would have a 99% chance of jumping 17
feet, or a 47% chance of jumping 21 feet!

From memory, skill in Acrobatics increases your AG check by 1 per 5 full ranks.  So a Rk 10
athlete could jump 4 feet further.

Current world records are 26 to 29' - maybe you get to add PS/5 feet to your base if you are
unencumbured and have specialist Long Jump training or something.

A standing jump would probably be (AG / 3) feet for the standard (5 x AG) check and adjust the
difficulty per one foot difference.


Cheers, Stephen.

"Speed in the runup and a high leap off the board are the fundamentals of success at the
discipline, and it is unsurprising that many sprinters, notably including Carl Lewis, also compete
successfully in the long jump." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_jump


DSL AK said:
> I had the party trying to jump between buildings last session and
> noticed there are no rules for this. What seems reasonable to other gms ? ( I used an Ag+PS
> roll)
>
> Cheers Noel
>
>
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SubjectRe: [dq] jumping rules
FromStruan Judd
DateFri, 16 Sep 2005 11:07:15 +1200
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That seems reasonable to me.

After a quick investigate of World records and such I'd also tend to set=20
maximum (unencumbered) distances of:
* Standing High Jump: PS / 5 feet (WR: 1.65m or 5' 5")
- Straight up, no lateral movement.

* Running High Jump: (PS + AG) / 7 feet (WR: 2.45m or 8')
- assuming a "Flop" action can be used and there something soft to land on,=
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else
* Running High Jump: (PS + AG) / 9 feet

* Standing Long Jump: PS * 2 / 5 feet (WR: 3.47m or 11'4")

* Running Long Jump: (PS + AG) / 2 feet (WR: 8.95m or 29'4")

TTFN, Struan.

On 9/16/05, Noel Livingston (DSL AK) <NoelL@datacom.co.nz> wrote:
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> I had the party trying to jump between buildings last session and
> noticed there are no rules for this. What seems reasonable to other gms
> ? ( I used an Ag+PS roll)
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> Cheers Noel
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That seems reasonable to me.<br>
<br>
After a quick investigate of World records and such I'd also tend to set ma=
ximum (unencumbered) distances of:<br>
* Standing High Jump: PS / 5 feet&nbsp; (WR: 1.65m or 5' 5&quot;)<br>
&nbsp; - Straight up, no lateral movement.<br>
<br>
* Running High Jump: (PS + AG) / 7 feet (WR: 2.45m or 8')<br>
- assuming a &quot;Flop&quot; action can be used and there something soft t=
o land on, else<br>
* Running High Jump: (PS + AG) / 9 feet<br>
<br>
* Standing Long Jump: PS * 2 / 5 feet (WR: 3.47m or 11'4&quot;)<br>
<br>
* Running Long Jump: (PS + AG) / 2 feet (WR: 8.95m or 29'4&quot;)<br>
<br>
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SubjectRe: [dq] jumping rules
FromMandos Mitchinson
DateFri, 16 Sep 2005 11:23:48 +1200
> I had the party trying to jump between buildings last session 
> and noticed there are no rules for this. What seems 
> reasonable to other gms ? ( I used an Ag+PS roll)

Technically there are rules they are just very vague.....

"If a figure wishes to jump during their movement,
they should have their movement allowance reduced,
and the figure must make an Agility Check to land
cleanly."

:-)

Mandos
/s


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SubjectRe: [dq] jumping rules
FromErrol Cavit
DateFri, 16 Sep 2005 11:30:23 +1200
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> Sent: Friday, 16 September 2005 11:24
> To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
> Subject: Re: [dq] jumping rules
> 
> 
> 
> > I had the party trying to jump between buildings last session 
> > and noticed there are no rules for this. What seems 
> > reasonable to other gms ? ( I used an Ag+PS roll)
> 
> Technically there are rules they are just very vague.....
> 
> "If a figure wishes to jump during their movement,
> they should have their movement allowance reduced,
> and the figure must make an Agility Check to land
> cleanly."
> 
> :-)
> 

That's not vague, it's flexible!!! ;-)

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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Subject: Re: [dq] jumping rules</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; I had the party trying to jump between buildings last session </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; and noticed there are no rules for this. What seems </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; reasonable to other gms ? ( I used an Ag+PS roll)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Technically there are rules they are just very vague.....</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &quot;If a figure wishes to jump during their movement,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; they should have their movement allowance reduced,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; and the figure must make an Agility Check to land</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; cleanly.&quot;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; :-)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>That's not vague, it's flexible!!! ;-)</FONT>
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SubjectRe: [dq] Languages
FromClare Baldock
DateFri, 16 Sep 2005 11:45:14 +1200
On 15/09/2005, at 11:05, Clare Baldock wrote:

> What is the language spoken by the peoples around Seagate?

Does no-one know or are you all politely waiting for someone else to 
answer?

cheers,

clare


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SubjectRe: [dq] Languages
FromMandos Mitchinson
DateFri, 16 Sep 2005 11:48:48 +1200
> > What is the language spoken by the peoples around Seagate?
> 
> Does no-one know or are you all politely waiting for someone else to 
> answer?

My guess would be common. If not I guess Lalanque or Tuscanan would be
closeish?  

Mandos
/s


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SubjectRe: [dq] DQ and Tri TV
Frommenolly@es.co.nz
DateFri, 16 Sep 2005 11:52:19 +1200
Umm, as one of the recent joiners, wouldn't it be better to
find a better gaming forum to advertise DQ so you are
hitting more of the types of people who would actually be
interested in turning up and sticking around?

I could make a suggestion of a couple of Auckland rpg email
forums that gamers belong to. The other place that might be
useful to advertise at, would be BattleCry. (shameless plug)
BattleCry is the multi-gaming tournament that America (the
Uni club) runs once a year in February. We had 200 people at
this years one, and we are in the planning stages of the
2006 one. There was wargaming, card games and larping as
well as roleplaying. I think we had 6/7 games running each
session in the roleplaying.

If the Guild wanted to host an information stall, have
fliers available or run some mini 3/4hr or 1 day games, or
even a game over 2 days, then you might get some newbies out
of that. We had invited the RPGA folks to run some of their
games this year and they got some more "we are here"
publicity and some new players too. It might work for the
Guild as well. Not sure how DQ would go for a 3/4 hour game.
Maybe with pre-rolled characters and a game which was low on
rolling but high on the roleplaying side of things.....

Anyway, my 5 cents worth.

Karen (who is now going off to look at Tri TV for BattleCry
advertising :)

<snip about recruiting etc>


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SubjectRe: [dq] Languages
FromErrol Cavit
DateFri, 16 Sep 2005 11:59:59 +1200
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> Subject: Re: [dq] Languages
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> 
> 
> > > What is the language spoken by the peoples around Seagate?
> > 
> > Does no-one know or are you all politely waiting for 
> someone else to 
> > answer?
> 
> My guess would be common. If not I guess Lalanque or Tuscanan would be
> closeish?  
> 

My Seagate-raised character got common as his native (and only) tongue -
this was many years ago. Dean and William were the supervising GMs I think?

Cheers
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Sent: Friday, 16 September 2005 11:49</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; What is the language spoken by the =
peoples around Seagate?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Does no-one know or are you all politely =
waiting for </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; someone else to </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; answer?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; My guess would be common. If not I guess =
Lalanque or Tuscanan would be</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; closeish?&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>My Seagate-raised character got common as his native =
(and only) tongue - this was many years ago. Dean and William were the =
supervising GMs I think?</FONT></P>

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Common

Regards,
Rosemary




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On 15/09/2005, at 11:05, Clare Baldock wrote:

> What is the language spoken by the peoples around Seagate?

Does no-one know or are you all politely waiting for someone else to 
answer?

cheers,

clare


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SubjectRe: [dq] Languages
FromStephen Martin
DateFri, 16 Sep 2005 12:25:27 +1200 (NZST)
I'm in the not a clue category.  I've always played common, but given that it is supposed to be a
trading tongue and most human areas have a native tongue and may speak common, Carzala should have
its "native" human languages defined.

I don't think it should have it's own language, I think it is comprised of 'immigrants' from a
variety of areas and the number of Common speakers and multi-linguals should be high.  As for the
other languages, the ratios should probably be representative of overall ratios throughout the
'Western Kingdom' region.
The official language of the court should probably be the official language of the Old Western
Kingdom (what was that?) on the assumption that the Barons of Carzala maintained it to have a
semblance of civilisation in their border barony.

I'm thinking:
Common: 80% (Higher than the 30-60% currently on the wiki)
Folksprach: 45%
Lalange: 45%
Reichspiel: 40%
Halfling: 10%
Elvish: 5%
Dwarven: 5%


Mandos Mitchinson said:
>
>> > What is the language spoken by the peoples around Seagate?
>>
>> Does no-one know or are you all politely waiting for someone else to  answer?
>
> My guess would be common. If not I guess Lalanque or Tuscanan would be closeish?
>
> Mandos
> /s
>
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Subject[dq] history of Carzala (was: Languages)
From
DateFri, 16 Sep 2005 12:38:34 +1200
hi there

does anyone know the history of Carzala? 

I have some ideas, such as that it is a rebel barony from Ranke (being the next bit river south from Southern Ranke), but first want to know what is already "in-game".

ideas to the list, to me or even (preferably) on the wiki (as that can handle differences of opinion) please.

a blinding greyness (written equivalent of deafening silence?) may prod me to write an erzatz history... without reference to reality <grin>

many thanks, Ian


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SubjectRe: [dq] Languages
FromErrol Cavit
DateFri, 16 Sep 2005 12:42:44 +1200
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Martin [mailto:stephenm@castle.pointclark.net]
> Sent: Friday, 16 September 2005 12:25
> To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
> Subject: Re: [dq] Languages
> 
> 
> I'm in the not a clue category.  I've always played common, 
> but given that it is supposed to be a
> trading tongue and most human areas have a native tongue and 
> may speak common, Carzala should have
> its "native" human languages defined.
> 
> I don't think it should have it's own language, I think it is 
> comprised of 'immigrants' from a
> variety of areas and the number of Common speakers and 
> multi-linguals should be high.  As for the
> other languages, the ratios should probably be representative 
> of overall ratios throughout the
> 'Western Kingdom' region.
> The official language of the court should probably be the 
> official language of the Old Western
> Kingdom (what was that?) on the assumption that the Barons of 
> Carzala maintained it to have a
> semblance of civilisation in their border barony.
> 

All sounds sensible.

> I'm thinking:
> Common: 80% (Higher than the 30-60% currently on the wiki)
> Folksprach: 45%
> Lalange: 45%
> Reichspiel: 40%
> Halfling: 10%
> Elvish: 5%
> Dwarven: 5%
> 

These would be percentages that "can speak at Rk5+" or somesuch?

Cheers
Errol

> 
> Mandos Mitchinson said:
> >
> >> > What is the language spoken by the peoples around Seagate?
> >>
> >> Does no-one know or are you all politely waiting for 
> someone else to  answer?
> >
> > My guess would be common. If not I guess Lalanque or 
> Tuscanan would be closeish?
> >
> > Mandos
> > /s
> >
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Sent: Friday, 16 September 2005 12:25</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Subject: Re: [dq] Languages</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; I'm in the not a clue category.&nbsp; I've =
always played common, </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; but given that it is supposed to be a</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; trading tongue and most human areas have a =
native tongue and </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; may speak common, Carzala should have</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; its &quot;native&quot; human languages =
defined.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; I don't think it should have it's own language, =
I think it is </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; comprised of 'immigrants' from a</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; variety of areas and the number of Common =
speakers and </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; multi-linguals should be high.&nbsp; As for =
the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; other languages, the ratios should probably be =
representative </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; of overall ratios throughout the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; 'Western Kingdom' region.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; The official language of the court should =
probably be the </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; official language of the Old Western</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Kingdom (what was that?) on the assumption that =
the Barons of </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Carzala maintained it to have a</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; semblance of civilisation in their border =
barony.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>All sounds sensible.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; I'm thinking:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Common: 80% (Higher than the 30-60% currently =
on the wiki)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Folksprach: 45%</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Lalange: 45%</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Reichspiel: 40%</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Halfling: 10%</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Elvish: 5%</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Dwarven: 5%</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>These would be percentages that &quot;can speak at =
Rk5+&quot; or somesuch?</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cheers</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Errol</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Mandos Mitchinson said:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; What is the language spoken by =
the peoples around Seagate?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;&gt; Does no-one know or are you all =
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; My guess would be common. If not I guess =
Lalanque or </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Tuscanan would be closeish?</FONT>
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My understanding is that Cazala is only a few generation old - that before 
that it was wilderness - that's why it is the 'frontier'.  That's also why 
common is the native tongue - original settlers probably had a range of 
languages and that was what they all spoke.

The place was pretty poor and marginal until Duke Leto's era, which 
includes the settlement of Brastor (resulting in substantial river trade, 
leading to Seagate become a major sea port), and the establishment of our 
Guild (resulting in a very nice chunk of taxes and huge cash flow)

NB common is also the native tongue in Ranke

Regards,
Rosemary





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hi there

does anyone know the history of Carzala? 

I have some ideas, such as that it is a rebel barony from Ranke (being the 
next bit river south from Southern Ranke), but first want to know what is 
already "in-game".

ideas to the list, to me or even (preferably) on the wiki (as that can 
handle differences of opinion) please.

a blinding greyness (written equivalent of deafening silence?) may prod me 
to write an erzatz history... without reference to reality <grin>

many thanks, Ian


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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">My understanding is that Cazala is only
a few generation old - that before that it was wilderness - that's why
it is the 'frontier'. &nbsp;That's also why common is the native tongue
- original settlers probably had a range of languages and that was what
they all spoke.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">The place was pretty poor and marginal
until Duke Leto's era, which includes the settlement of Brastor (resulting
in substantial river trade, leading to Seagate become a major sea port),
and the establishment of our Guild (resulting in a very nice chunk of taxes
and huge cash flow)</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">NB common is also the native tongue
in Ranke</font>
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does anyone know the history of Carzala? <br>
<br>
I have some ideas, such as that it is a rebel barony from Ranke (being
the next bit river south from Southern Ranke), but first want to know what
is already &quot;in-game&quot;.<br>
<br>
ideas to the list, to me or even (preferably) on the wiki (as that can
handle differences of opinion) please.<br>
<br>
a blinding greyness (written equivalent of deafening silence?) may prod
me to write an erzatz history... without reference to reality &lt;grin&gt;<br>
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many thanks, Ian<br>
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SubjectRe: [dq] history of Carzala (was: Languages)
FromMartin Dickson
DateFri, 16 Sep 2005 13:11:43 +1200
RMansfield@ingnz.com wrote:

>
> My understanding is that Cazala is only a few generation old

Don't have the Frontiers guide with me, but as I recall 80 years was the 
figure given (we may presume that's now 20-odd years old).

> NB common is also the native tongue in Ranke

I'd tend to agree with that for Sanctuary -- similar mish-mash of 
immigrants -- but it would be a bit odd if Ranke didn't have at least 
one other language often spoken, even if only used by the upper crust 
(such as they are in that Duchy).

Cheers,
Martin

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SubjectRe: [dq] history of Carzala (was: Languages)
FromMandos Mitchinson
DateFri, 16 Sep 2005 13:16:02 +1200
> Don't have the Frontiers guide with me, but as I recall 80 
> years was the 
> figure given (we may presume that's now 20-odd years old).

So are there centennial plans organised?

Sounds like an excuse for a street party or two!

Mandos
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FromStruan Judd
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Sounds like a job for the Campaign committee.=20

TTFN

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Sounds like a job for the Campaign committee. <br>
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SubjectRe: [dq] history of Carzala (was: Languages)
FromStephen Martin
DateFri, 16 Sep 2005 15:56:13 +1200 (NZST)
My understanding of Carzala's history was similar, so I have created the first draft of a history
of Carzarla, I stopped at the end of the reign of Leto's grandfather as I believe something has
already been established about his father and how he inherited.

http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/Carzala#History_and_Events

I wanted a grandfather who would have inspired Leto to be the elightened and effective Duke we all
know.  Names were based on place names in Carzala.  A few blanks to be filled in about where they
originally came from.

And a tentative date of mid-summer 806 or probably 807wk for the centenial year of Carzala.

Cheers, Stephen.

Martin Dickson said:
> RMansfield@ingnz.com wrote:
>
>>
>> My understanding is that Cazala is only a few generation old
>
> Don't have the Frontiers guide with me, but as I recall 80 years was the  figure given (we may
> presume that's now 20-odd years old).
>
>> NB common is also the native tongue in Ranke
>
> I'd tend to agree with that for Sanctuary -- similar mish-mash of  immigrants -- but it would be
> a bit odd if Ranke didn't have at least  one other language often spoken, even if only used by
> the upper crust  (such as they are in that Duchy).
>
> Cheers,
> Martin
>
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SubjectRe: [dq] history of Carzala (was: Languages)
FromHelen Saggers
DateFri, 16 Sep 2005 16:09:01 +1200
Celebrations have been postponed due to the war, it's a little hard to plan
to celebrate 100 years if your not sure you'll still be here next week.

Helen

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> Don't have the Frontiers guide with me, but as I recall 80 
> years was the 
> figure given (we may presume that's now 20-odd years old).

So are there centennial plans organised?

Sounds like an excuse for a street party or two!

Mandos
/s


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SubjectRe: [dq] history of Carzala (was: Languages)
FromMandos Mitchinson
DateFri, 16 Sep 2005 16:07:52 +1200
> Celebrations have been postponed due to the war, it's a 
> little hard to plan to celebrate 100 years if your not sure 
> you'll still be here next week.

After 20 years of threat from the Dark circle I think people need a
chance to celebrate. 

Mandos
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SubjectRe: [dq] history of Carzala (was: Languages)
FromMartin Dickson
DateFri, 16 Sep 2005 16:09:15 +1200
Actually the whole nastiness is because Leto forgot to send Rashak an 
invite.  :-)

Helen Saggers wrote:

>Celebrations have been postponed due to the war, it's a little hard to plan
>to celebrate 100 years if your not sure you'll still be here next week.
>  
>
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