Messages for 18 October 2005

Subject	Re: [dq] NPC and factions
From	Jonathan Bean
Date	Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:39:15 +1300
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C5D3C7.CE3DB3B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errol said: > Game date is important too, as status will tend to neutral over time. I don't think we want to have stuff 'age' in a system as it would become to hard - I think let it be a general guide to the GM. > Faction should make clear the location, or it may be worth a separate column to make it easier for a GM to scan a PC's record for entries of interest to the current session. With some groups / organisations I think it is of value to not have a location but instead for the generic group, and again GMs can use it as a guide. In general I see the moveable relationships between PC & NPC simply between different games as being one of the more important aspects of role-playing. I think this system is low over-head, and easy to use. This system could create expectations for the player to work towards some stronger form of relationship between their PC and a group of NPCs I see it as a tool that GMs could use to help 'blend' character storylines together. I see this (or similar) system as an important part of supporting cross-GM NPCs within Games. What do others think? Jonathan Bean Business Development Manager TME - Its all about time Phone 966 1656 PO Box 35902, Browns Bay Fax 448 1051 Auckland, New Zealand Mob 021 173 4060 www.tme.co.nz Free 0800 55 33 66 Game date is important too, as status will tend to neutral over time. Faction should make clear the location, or it may be worth a separate column to make it easier for a GM to scan a PC's record for entries of interest to the current session. I think a A4 sheet per character should do OK. If a PCs records go to more than two sides, then the balances from the oldest sheets can be transferred to the latest one. It will just take one player to wave their sheet under the GM's nose on the final night to trigger a quick update of everyone's (I'm imagining the players scribbling and the GM signing). GMs need guidelines for points, costs etc of course - should fit on around half a page I would think. This could be extended to a ranking for the Guild with major factions/polities, which tends to happen in a less structured way currently in any case, so possibly not worth the bother. Cheers Errol ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C5D3C7.CE3DB3B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:st1=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <title>RE: [dq] NPC and factions</title> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"country-region"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"City"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"PlaceType"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"PlaceName"/> 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{page:Section1;} --> </style> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" /> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit"> <o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--> </head> <body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dblue> <div class=3DSection1> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt'>Errol said:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt'>> Game date is important too, as status will tend to neutral = over time.</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I don’t think we want to have = stuff ‘age’ in a system as it would become to hard – I think let it be a = general guide to the GM.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt'>> Faction should make clear the location, or it may be worth = a separate column to make it easier for a GM to scan a PC's record for = entries of interest to the current session.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>With some groups / organisations I = think it is of value to not have a location but instead for the generic group, = and again GMs can use it as a guide.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In general = <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I see the moveable relationships = between PC & NPC simply between different games as being one of the more = important aspects of role-playing.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I think this system is low = over-head, and easy to use.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This system could create = expectations for the player to work towards some stronger form of relationship between = their PC and a group of NPCs<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I see it as a tool that GMs could = use to help ‘blend’ character storylines = together.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I see this (or similar) system as = an important part of supporting cross-GM NPCs within = Games.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>What do others = think?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Jonathan Bean</span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>= <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Business Development = Manager</span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>TME - Its all about = time</span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Courier = New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:navy'>Phone = <st1:Street w:st=3D"on"><st1:address w:st=3D"on">966 1656         PO Box = 35902</st1:address></st1:Street>, <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:PlaceName w:st=3D"on">Browns</st1:PlaceName> = <st1:PlaceType w:st=3D"on">Bay</st1:PlaceType></st1:place></span></font><font = color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Courier = New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:navy'>Fax 448 1051           = <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:City w:st=3D"on">Auckland</st1:City>, = <st1:country-region w:st=3D"on">New Zealand</st1:country-region></st1:place></span></font><font = color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Courier = New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:navy'>Mob 021 = 173 4060       www.tme.co.nz</span></font>= <font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Courier = New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:navy'>Free = 0800 55 33 66</span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span = style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <div style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm = 0cm 4.0pt'> <p><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; color:navy'>G</span></font><font size=3D2><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>ame date is important too, as status will tend to neutral over = time.</span></font> <br> <font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Faction should make = clear the location, or it may be worth a separate column to make it easier for a = GM to scan a PC's record for entries of interest to the current = session.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> <p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>I think a A4 sheet per character should do OK. If a PCs records go to more than = two sides, then the balances from the oldest sheets can be transferred to = the latest one. It will just take one player to wave their sheet under the = GM's nose on the final night to trigger a quick update of everyone's (I'm = imagining the players scribbling and the GM signing).</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> <p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>GMs need guidelines for points, costs etc of course - should fit on around half a = page I would think.</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p> <p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>This could be extended to a ranking for the Guild with major = factions/polities, which tends to happen in a less structured way currently in any case, so possibly not worth the bother.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> <p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Cheers</span></font> <br> <font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Errol</span></font> = <o:p></o:p></p> </div> </div> </body> </html> ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C5D3C7.CE3DB3B0-- -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz --

Subject	[dq] Halfling and Dwarven Lands and Strongholds
From	Jonathan Bean
Date	Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:41:51 +1300
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C5D3E1.508EB800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I am looking for Dwarven Lands and Strongholds to add to the wiki. Please see; http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/Map_of_Dwarven_Lands We have 13 areas already recorded can you please post (don't email me) as others may have differing ideas on the same stronghold etc and getting them clear would be good. Also if you know of any line the shire - starting land for Halflings other than Gracht, and Ajepbar that would also be useful, so I can add it to the Halfling map. Jonathan Bean Business Development Manager TME - Its all about time Phone 966 1656 PO Box 35902, Browns Bay Fax 448 1051 Auckland, New Zealand Mob 021 173 4060 www.tme.co.nz Free 0800 55 33 66 ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C5D3E1.508EB800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:st1=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"country-region"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"City"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"PlaceType"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"PlaceName"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"place"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"Street"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"address"/> <!--[if !mso]> <style> st1\:{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } </style> <![endif]--> <style> <!-- / Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-compose; font-family:Arial; color:windowtext;} @page Section1 {size:595.3pt 841.9pt; margin:72.0pt 90.0pt 72.0pt 90.0pt;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> </head> <body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple> <div class=3DSection1> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-NZ = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-NZ = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-NZ = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I am looking for <st1:place = w:st=3D"on"><st1:PlaceName w:st=3D"on">Dwarven</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType = w:st=3D"on">Lands</st1:PlaceType></st1:place> and Strongholds to add to the wiki.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-NZ = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-NZ = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Please see;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-NZ = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><a href=3D"http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/Map_of_Dwarven_Lan= ds">http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/Map_of_Dwarven_Lands</= a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-NZ = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-NZ = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>We have 13 areas already recorded can you = please post (don’t email me) as others may have differing ideas on the same stronghold etc and getting them clear would be = good.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-NZ = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-NZ = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Also if you know of any line the shire - = starting land for Halflings other than Gracht, and Ajepbar that would also be useful, = so I can add it to the Halfling map.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-NZ = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-NZ = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-NZ = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Jonathan Bean</span></font><span = lang=3DEN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = lang=3DEN-NZ style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-NZ = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Business Development = Manager</span></font><span lang=3DEN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-NZ = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>TME - Its all about time</span></font><span lang=3DEN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = lang=3DEN-NZ style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Phone <st1:Street = w:st=3D"on"><st1:address w:st=3D"on">966 1656         PO = Box 35902</st1:address></st1:Street>, <st1:place = w:st=3D"on"><st1:PlaceName w:st=3D"on">Browns</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType = w:st=3D"on">Bay</st1:PlaceType></st1:place></span></font><span lang=3DEN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = lang=3DEN-NZ style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Fax 448 1051           = <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:City w:st=3D"on">Auckland</st1:City>, = <st1:country-region w:st=3D"on">New Zealand</st1:country-region></st1:place></span></font><span = lang=3DEN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = lang=3DEN-NZ style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Mob 021 173 4060       www.tme.co.nz</span></font>= <span lang=3DEN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = lang=3DEN-NZ style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Free 0800 55 33 = 66</span></font><span lang=3DEN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = lang=3DEN-NZ style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> </div> </body> </html> ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C5D3E1.508EB800-- -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz --

Subject	Re: [dq] NPC and factions
From	Errol Cavit
Date	Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:58:06 +1300
This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5D376.9E912F26 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Bean [mailto:jonathan@tme.co.nz] Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2005 09:39 To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Subject: Re: [dq] NPC and factions Errol said: > Game date is important too, as status will tend to neutral over time. I don't think we want to have stuff 'age' in a system as it would become to hard - I think let it be a general guide to the GM. Agreed, but any time a faction's value is changed or reffered to, the GM should consider if significantly older items are still having an effect. A favour for the guard captain 5 years ago will have little impact, espacially if the GM decides that a different gent is in charge now. > Faction should make clear the location, or it may be worth a separate column to make it easier for a GM to scan a PC's record for entries of interest to the current session. With some groups / organisations I think it is of value to not have a location but instead for the generic group, and again GMs can use it as a guide. Certainly, some factions have a wide geographic reach, or the relationship is with an individual that might just turn out to be e.g. leading the group of church knights you are asking to cover your entry to the DC. Cheers Errol In general I see the moveable relationships between PC & NPC simply between different games as being one of the more important aspects of role-playing. I think this system is low over-head, and easy to use. This system could create expectations for the player to work towards some stronger form of relationship between their PC and a group of NPCs I see it as a tool that GMs could use to help 'blend' character storylines together. I see this (or similar) system as an important part of supporting cross-GM NPCs within Games. What do others think? Jonathan Bean ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5D376.9E912F26 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v =3D=20 "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o =3D=20 "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w =3D=20 "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1 =3D=20 "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <TITLE>RE: [dq] NPC and factions</TITLE> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" = name=3DGENERATOR><o:SmartTagType=20 name=3D"country-region"=20 namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTag= Type><o:SmartTagType=20 name=3D"City"=20 namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTag= Type><o:SmartTagType=20 name=3D"PlaceType"=20 namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTag= Type><o:SmartTagType=20 name=3D"PlaceName"=20 namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTag= Type><o:SmartTagType=20 name=3D"place"=20 namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTag= Type><o:SmartTagType=20 name=3D"Street"=20 namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTag= Type><o:SmartTagType=20 name=3D"address"=20 namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTag= Type><!--[if !mso]> <STYLE>st1\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#ieooui) } </STYLE> <![endif]--> <STYLE>@page Section1 {size: 595.3pt 841.9pt; margin: 72.0pt 90.0pt = 72.0pt 90.0pt; } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } A:visited { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } P { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0cm; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0cm; FONT-FAMILY: = "Times New Roman"; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: = auto } SPAN.EmailStyle18 { COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-style-type: personal-reply } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } </STYLE> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" /> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit"> <o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></HEAD> <BODY lang=3DEN-US vLink=3Dblue link=3Dblue> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20 size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Jonathan Bean=20 [mailto:jonathan@tme.co.nz]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, 18 October 2005=20 09:39<BR><B>To:</B> dq@dq.sf.org.nz<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [dq] NPC = and=20 factions<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV class=3DSection1> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Errol said:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Game date is important too, as status = will tend=20 to neutral over time.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I don't = think we want=20 to have stuff 'age' in a system as it would become to hard - I think = let it be=20 a general guide to the GM.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p><SPAN=20 class=3D281574923-17102005>Agreed, but any time a faction's value is = changed or=20 reffered to, the GM should consider if significantly older items are = still=20 having an effect. A favour for the guard captain 5 years ago will = have=20 little impact, espacially if the GM decides that a different gent is in = charge=20 now.</SPAN></o:p></SPAN></P> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Faction should make clear the = location, or it may=20 be worth a separate column to make it easier for a GM to scan a PC's = record=20 for entries of interest to the current = session.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">With some = groups /=20 organisations I think it is of value to not have a location but = instead for=20 the generic group, and again GMs can use it as a=20 guide.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE> <P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p><SPAN=20 class=3D281574923-17102005>Certainly, some factions have a wide = geographic reach,=20 or the relationship is with an individual that might just turn out to = be e.g.=20 leading the group of church knights you are asking to cover your entry = to the=20 DC.</SPAN></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p><SPAN=20 class=3D281574923-17102005></SPAN></o:p></SPAN> </P> <P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p><SPAN=20 class=3D281574923-17102005>Cheers</SPAN></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal dir=3Dltr><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p><SPAN=20 class=3D281574923-17102005>Errol</SPAN></o:p></SPAN></P> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT> </P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">In general = <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I see the = moveable=20 relationships between PC & NPC simply between different games as = being one=20 of the more important aspects of = role-playing.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I think = this system=20 is low over-head, and easy to use.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">This = system could=20 create expectations for the player to work towards some stronger form = of=20 relationship between their PC and a group of = NPCs<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I see it = as a tool=20 that GMs could use to help 'blend' character storylines=20 together.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I see this = (or=20 similar) system as an important part of supporting cross-GM NPCs = within=20 Games.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">What do = others=20 think?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV class=3DSection1> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jonathan=20 Bean</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dnavy><SPAN=20 style=3D"COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dnavy = size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: = navy"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff=20 size=3D2></FONT></o:p> </P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5D376.9E912F26-- -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz --

Subject	Re: [dq] NPC and factions
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=____1129593742706_msd?VPbm7H Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A date also gives a 'use it or loose it' signal, that may be good for some, and bad for others. i do not see it as 'bad'. Ian > From: Errol Cavit <ecavit@tollnz.co.nz> > Date: 2005/10/18 Tue PM 12:58:06 GMT+13:00 > To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz > Subject: Re: [dq] NPC and factions > Agreed, but any time a faction's value is changed or reffered to, the GM > should consider if significantly older items are still having an effect. A > favour for the guard captain 5 years ago will have little impact, espacially > if the GM decides that a different gent is in charge now. > > ------=____1129593742706_msd?VPbm7H Content-Type: text/html; name="reply" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="reply" <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1 = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <TITLE>RE: [dq] NPC and factions</TITLE> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=GENERATOR><o:SmartTagType name="country-region" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType name="City" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType name="PlaceType" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType name="PlaceName" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType name="place" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType name="Street" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType name="address" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><!--[if !mso]> <STYLE>st1\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#ieooui) } </STYLE> <![endif]--> <STYLE>@page Section1 {size: 595.3pt 841.9pt; margin: 72.0pt 90.0pt 72.0pt 90.0pt; } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } A:visited { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } P { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0cm; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0cm; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto } SPAN.EmailStyle18 { COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-style-type: personal-reply } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } </STYLE> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" /> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext="edit"> <o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US vLink=blue link=blue> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Jonathan Bean [mailto:jonathan@tme.co.nz]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, 18 October 2005 09:39<BR><B>To:</B> dq@dq.sf.org.nz<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [dq] NPC and factions<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV class=Section1> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Errol said:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Game date is important too, as status will tend to neutral over time.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I don't think we want to have stuff 'age' in a system as it would become to hard - I think let it be a general guide to the GM.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p><SPAN class=281574923-17102005>Agreed, but any time a faction's value is changed or reffered to, the GM should consider if significantly older items are still having an effect. A favour for the guard captain 5 years ago will have little impact, espacially if the GM decides that a different gent is in charge now.</SPAN></o:p></SPAN></P> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Faction should make clear the location, or it may be worth a separate column to make it easier for a GM to scan a PC's record for entries of interest to the current session.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">With some groups / organisations I think it is of value to not have a location but instead for the generic group, and again GMs can use it as a guide.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE> <P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p><SPAN class=281574923-17102005>Certainly, some factions have a wide geographic reach, or the relationship is with an individual that might just turn out to be e.g. leading the group of church knights you are asking to cover your entry to the DC.</SPAN></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p><SPAN class=281574923-17102005></SPAN></o:p></SPAN> </P> <P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p><SPAN class=281574923-17102005>Cheers</SPAN></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p><SPAN class=281574923-17102005>Errol</SPAN></o:p></SPAN></P> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT> </P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">In general <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I see the moveable relationships between PC & NPC simply between different games as being one of the more important aspects of role-playing.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I think this system is low over-head, and easy to use.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">This system could create expectations for the player to work towards some stronger form of relationship between their PC and a group of NPCs<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I see it as a tool that GMs could use to help 'blend' character storylines together.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I see this (or similar) system as an important part of supporting cross-GM NPCs within Games.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">What do others think?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV class=Section1> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jonathan Bean</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><o:p><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></o:p> </P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=____1129593742706_msd?VPbm7H-- -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz --

Subject	Re: [dq] NPC and factions
From	Mandos Mitchinson
Date	Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:22:54 +1300
Overall, like the death question I don't see how additional discussion will help here. Jono and other GM's can simply hand these chits out on their games, if players and other GM's see the benefits it will take of and become something we do as a treasure item, if not then it dies a quiet and unpopular death. I think it is a good idea and am more than happy to hand out such chits, including retroactive ones to players who have been in the area's I GM. Time limits and other factors can simply be added as notes to the basic chit and you could do anything with it. Mandos /s -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz --

Subject	Re: [dq] NPC and factions
From	Jonathan Bean
Date	Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:29:59 +1300
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C5D3E8.0A49A880 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0024_01C5D3E8.0A4CB5C0" ------=_NextPart_001_0024_01C5D3E8.0A4CB5C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes a date field can be of value. Please see attached - Character Faction Form as a proto-type. Jonathan Bean Business Development Manager TME - Its all about time Phone 966 1656 PO Box 35902, Browns Bay Fax 448 1051 Auckland, New Zealand Mob 021 173 4060 www.tme.co.nz Free 0800 55 33 66 _____ From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] On Behalf Of dawnhaven@xtra.co.nz Sent: 18 October 2005 1:02 p.m. To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Subject: Re: [dq] NPC and factions -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Bean [mailto:jonathan@tme.co.nz] Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2005 09:39 To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Subject: Re: [dq] NPC and factions Errol said: > Game date is important too, as status will tend to neutral over time. I don't think we want to have stuff 'age' in a system as it would become to hard - I think let it be a general guide to the GM. Agreed, but any time a faction's value is changed or reffered to, the GM should consider if significantly older items are still having an effect. A favour for the guard captain5 years ago will have little impact, espacially if the GM decides that a different gent is in charge now. > Faction should make clear the location, or it may be worth a separate column to make it easier for a GM to scan a PC's record for entries of interest to the current session. With some groups / organisations I think it is of value to not have a location but instead for the generic group, and again GMs can use it as a guide. Certainly, some factions have a wide geographic reach, or the relationship is with an individual that might just turn out to be e.g. leading the group of church knights you are asking to cover your entry to the DC. Cheers Errol In general I see the moveable relationships between PC & NPC simply between different games as being one of the more important aspects of role-playing. I think this system is low over-head, and easy to use. This system could create expectations for the player to work towards some stronger form of relationship between their PC and a group of NPCs I see it as a tool that GMs could use to help 'blend' character storylines together. I see this (or similar) system as an important part of supporting cross-GM NPCs within Games. What do others think? Jonathan Bean ------=_NextPart_001_0024_01C5D3E8.0A4CB5C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:st1=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <!--[if !mso]> <style> v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} </style> <![endif]--> <title>RE: [dq] NPC and factions</title> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"country-region"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"City"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"PlaceType"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"PlaceName"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"place"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"Street"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"address"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"PersonName"/> <!--[if !mso]> <style> st1\:{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } </style> <![endif]--> <style> <!-- / Font Definitions / @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; 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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font = size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] <b><span = style=3D'font-weight: bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>dawnhaven@xtra.co.nz<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 18 October 2005 = 1:02 p.m.<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName = w:st=3D"on">dq@dq.sf.org.nz</st1:PersonName><br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [dq] NPC and = factions</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid blue = 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt; margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'= > <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>-----Original Message-----<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Jonathan Bean = [mailto:<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">jonathan@tme.co.nz</st1:PersonName>]<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 18 October = 2005 09:39<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName = w:st=3D"on">dq@dq.sf.org.nz</st1:PersonName><br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [dq] NPC and = factions</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt'>Errol said:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt'>> Game date is important too, as status will tend to neutral = over time.</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I don't think we want to have stuff = 'age' in a system as it would become to hard - I think let it be a general = guide to the GM.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span= ></font></p> </blockquote> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Agreed, but any time a faction's = value is changed or reffered to, the GM should consider if significantly older = items are still having an effect. A favour for the guard captain5 years ago will = have little impact, espacially if the GM decides that a different gent is in = charge now.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid blue = 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt; margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'= > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt'>> Faction should make clear the location, or it may be worth = a separate column to make it easier for a GM to scan a PC's record for = entries of interest to the current session.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>With some groups / organisations I = think it is of value to not have a location but instead for the generic group, = and again GMs can use it as a guide.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> </blockquote> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Certainly, some factions have a = wide geographic reach, or the relationship is with an individual that might = just turn out to be e.g. leading the group of church knights you are asking = to cover your entry to the DC.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span= ></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Errol<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid blue = 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt; margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'= > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span= ></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In general = <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I see the moveable relationships = between PC & NPC simply between different games as being one of the more = important aspects of role-playing.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I think this system is low = over-head, and easy to use.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This system could create = expectations for the player to work towards some stronger form of relationship between = their PC and a group of NPCs<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I see it as a tool that GMs could = use to help 'blend' character storylines together.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I see this (or similar) system as = an important part of supporting cross-GM NPCs within = Games.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>What do others = think?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Jonathan Bean</span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span 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Subject	Re: [dq] Halfling and Dwarven Lands and Strongholds
From	RMansfield@ingnz.com
Date	Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:29:39 +1300
This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 000D9B19CC25709E_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" From my time playing and GMing - I have never heard of any areas politically controlled by halflings in the Baronies or Western Kingdom. There are any number of individual villages scattered throughout and a few places have a significant halfling minority eg Mittlemarkhauptstadt (city in Midheim)* Innesburg (city in northern Aquila) Elfenburg (small barony in the mountains) Crystal Springs (town in Cazarla) In the barony of Gracht the majority of the population are halflings but the Baron (Graf) is human - however it is is a very small place (maybe 2000 halflings and 500 humans) Outside of this area I have come across two large communities of halflings: Bretland (Bretania?) - Gm Michael Parkinson; and Empire of the Sun in southern Terranova - GM Martin Dickson These two places are large countries ruled by halflings * MMHS On you Wiki Map you show Mittlemarkhauptstadt as part of the Western Kingdom - it's not. It is the capital city of Midheim, an an independant 'country' about half the size of Cazala (but as rich). It doesn't normally align itself with the Western Kingdom politically. GM - Michael Parkinson (but used by lots of GM's) Innesburg is nearby but is part of Aquila (the scale of the maps means their names have often been linked : - ) Regards, Rosemary --=_alternative 000D9B19CC25709E_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">From my time playing and GMing - </font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I have never heard of any areas politically controlled by halflings in the Baronies or Western Kingdom.  There are any number of individual villages scattered throughout and a few places have a significant halfling minority eg </font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Mittlemarkhauptstadt (city in Midheim)*</font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Innesburg (city in northern Aquila)</font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Elfenburg (small barony in the mountains)</font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Crystal Springs (town in Cazarla) </font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">In the barony of Gracht the majority of the population are halflings but the Baron (Graf) is human  -  however it is is a very small place (maybe 2000 halflings and 500 humans)</font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Outside of this area I have come across two large communities of halflings: Bretland (Bretania?) - Gm Michael Parkinson; and Empire of the Sun in southern Terranova - GM Martin Dickson</font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">These two places are large countries ruled by halflings</font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">* MMHS</font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">On you Wiki Map you show Mittlemarkhauptstadt as part of the Western Kingdom - it's not.  It is the capital city of Midheim, an an independant 'country' about half the size of Cazala (but as rich).  It doesn't normally align itself with the Western Kingdom politically.  GM - Michael Parkinson (but used by lots of GM's)</font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Innesburg is nearby but is part of Aquila (the scale of the maps means their names have often been linked : - )</font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Regards,<br> Rosemary<br> </font> --=_alternative 000D9B19CC25709E_=-- -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz --

Subject	Re: [dq] Halfling and Dwarven Lands and Strongholds
From	Martin Dickson
Date	Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:31:40 +1300
------=_Part_7783_8111026.1129606300528 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On 10/18/05, RMansfield@ingnz.com <RMansfield@ingnz.com> wrote: > > > * MMHS > On you Wiki Map you show Mittlemarkhauptstadt as part of the Western > Kingdom - it's not. It is the capital city of Midheim, an an independant > 'country' about half the size of Cazala (but as rich). Midheim (previous, unoffical, but oft used title for the "Country" ruled by the Grafs of MittelMarkHauptStadt) is now the Marquisate of Middlemarch (according to Michael). ------=_Part_7783_8111026.1129606300528 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On 10/18/05, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername"><a href=3D"mailto:RMansfield@ing= nz.com">RMansfield@ingnz.com</a></b> <<a href=3D"mailto:RMansfield@ingnz= .com">RMansfield@ingnz.com</a>> wrote:<div><span class=3D"gmail_quote"><= /span> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, = 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <br><font face=3D"sans-serif" size=3D"2"></font><font face=3D"sans-serif" s= ize=3D"2">* MMHS</font> <br><font face=3D"sans-serif" size=3D"2">On you Wiki Map you show Mittlemar= khauptstadt as part of the Western Kingdom - it's not.  It is the capital city of Midheim, an an independant 'country' about half the size of Cazala (but as rich).</font></blockquote><div><br> Midheim (previous, unoffical, but oft used title for the "Country" ruled by= the Grafs of <span>MittelMarkHauptStadt)</span> is now the Marquisate of <= span>Middlemarch (according to Michael).</span><br> </div></div><br> ------=_Part_7783_8111026.1129606300528-- -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz --

Subject	[dq] OT:Serenity
From	Struan Judd
Date	Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:34:54 +1300
------=_Part_19869_22766352.1129606494771 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Just cause some of you might kill me if I didn't mention it. TTFN, Struan. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: angel_a <angwells@gmail.com> Date: Oct 13, 2005 1:12 AM Subject: [akldscoobies] OT:Serenity To: akldscoobies@yahoogroups.com, nzscoobies@yahoogroups.com This just came on my email Special Serenity Advance Screening Megascreen, Sunday 23 October, 6.30pm Due to popular demand we are hosting another advance screening of SERENITY. Tickets will go on sale Saturday 22 October plus will be available at our stand at the Armageddon Expo over Labour weekend. So be quick as it's one session only and seats are limited! This big-screen version of the short-lived TV series Firefly is set 500 years in the future and focuses on space captain Malcolm Reynolds and his crew, who make a living through petty crime and transporting people throughout space. After they pick up their latest passengers, a doctor and his sister, they realize that they're now being hunted by some very powerfu= l and nasty folks. Starring: Nathan Fillion, Alan Tudyk, Adam Baldwin Director: Joss Whedon Rating: M - Contains Medium Level Violence SPONSORED LINKS Buffy vampire slayer<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=3Dms&k=3DBuffy+vampire+slayer&w1=3DBu= ffy+vampire+slayer&w2=3DVampire+slayer&c=3D2&s=3D46&.sig=3D6t0ulBJ73R4A8q_6= NcQL6w> Vampire slayer<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=3Dms&k=3DVampire+slayer&w1=3DBuffy+va= mpire+slayer&w2=3DVampire+slayer&c=3D2&s=3D46&.sig=3DC6kUVh3EiWM5W8KjQa1EJg= > ------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group "akldscoobies<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/akldscoobies>" on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: akldscoobies-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<akldscoobies-unsubscribe@yahoog= roups.com?subject=3DUnsubscribe> - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! 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Tickets will go on sale Saturday 22 October plus will be available at our stand at the Armageddon Expo over Labour weekend.</p> <p>So be quick as it's one session only and seats are limited!</p> <p>This big-screen version of the short-lived TV series Firefly is set 500 years in the future and focuses on space captain Malcolm Reynolds and his crew, who make a living through petty crime and transporting people throughout space. After they pick up their latest passengers, a doctor and his sister, they realize that they're now being hunted by some very powerful and nasty folks. </p> <p><strong>Starring:</strong> Nathan Fillion, Alan Tudyk, Adam Baldwin</p> <p><strong>Director:</strong> Joss Whedon</p> <p><strong>Rating:</strong>  M - Contains Medium Level Violence</p></d= iv> =20 <br><br> <div style=3D"width: 500px; text-align: right; margin-bottom: 1px; color:= rgb(144, 144, 144);"> <tt>SPONSORED LINKS</tt> </div> <table bgcolor=3D"#e0ecee" cellpadding=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"13" width=3D"= 500"> =20 <tbody><tr valign=3D"top"> <td style=3D"width: 25%;"> <tt><a href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=3Dms&k=3DBuffy+va= mpire+slayer&w1=3DBuffy+vampire+slayer&w2=3DVampire+slayer&c=3D= 2&s=3D46&.sig=3D6t0ulBJ73R4A8q_6NcQL6w" target=3D"_blank" onclick= =3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> Buffy vampire slayer</a></tt> </td> <td style=3D"width: 25%;"> <tt><a href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=3Dms&k=3DVampire+= slayer&w1=3DBuffy+vampire+slayer&w2=3DVampire+slayer&c=3D2&= s=3D46&.sig=3DC6kUVh3EiWM5W8KjQa1EJg" target=3D"_blank" onclick=3D"retu= rn top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> Vampire slayer</a></tt> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> =20 =20 <br> <div style=3D"text-align: center; color: rgb(144, 144, 144); width: 500px= ;"> <hr style=3D"border-bottom: 1px none; width: 500px; text-align: left;"> <tt>YAHOO! 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