SubjectRe: [dq] Players Guide v3
FromErrol Cavit
DateSat, 19 Nov 2005 09:07:23 +1300
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Thanks Rosemary
=20
I found that I wasn't using the previous version of the PG while =
ranking on
a PC as the PDF didn't have bookmarks (I then added my own). I'd offer =
to do
this chore for you on the next version, but work has since got more
sophisticated in how they deploy Distiller, and I can no longer get to =
a
full version of Acrobat.

-----Original Message-----
From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On Behalf Of
RMansfield@ingnz.com
Sent: Friday, 18 November 2005 15:12
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: [dq] Players Guide v3



Hi,=20

I was looking at the master of the Players Guide yesterday and noticed =
that
it has most of the outstanding changes already loaded.=20

I'd therefore like to finish it off with the aim of issuing ver 3 by =
the Dec
meeting.  By issuing I actually mean loading the PDF onto the Wiki and =
other
relevant web sites for players to print for themselves : - )=20

Taking the Outstanding Issues List from the Wiki the current state of =
play
follows.  The stuff in italics needs action - if any one has quick =
answers
or comments to these let me know by email.=20




Adventuring skills=20
Quick sheet for ranking is incorrect:=20
current line =3D=20

Non Magic Abilities // Learning Time // Ranking Time // With Trainer //
Without Trainer // Cost // Notes=20
Adventuring skills // n/a // 1 week x new rank        required // =
extensive
use only // 150*Rank // No time/trainer needed if used on adventure=20

 =3D> What would you like this to say?  =20
=20

How about:

Adventuring skills // n/a // may learn 1 rank while adventuring if used
extensively with tutor available  ////// 150*Rank // may also learn =
like
other skills=20


(could add explicit line for standard ranking and drop comment)

Adventuring skills // n/a // 1 week x new rank   //     10% EP discount =
//
25% EP penalty // 150*Rank // if learnt using standard skill method

Other options seem messier to me.

=20

How about matching the order of items in the table with 7.3?

Also is it worth mentioning the MA limit (or pointing to it) on the =
table?
It is easy to overlook.

=20

=20


Ranking =3D Done=20
* Add a sentence clarifying split ranking, as per Rule Book =
clarification.
Rule book will say:=20
"Time spent training for a particular rank of an ability may be =
interrupted
by other activity (including being on adventure). However training for =
a
given rank must be completed within 6 months of starting training for =
that
rank."=20

Added sentence "If you don=E2=80=99t have enough time in one block to =
finish a rank
in an ability you may split the time up but all training for a given =
rank
must be completed within 6 months of starting it."=20

* 7.3.6 Names needs to spell out that it is possible to rank 1, 2 or 3 =
Names
at the same time=20
Wording changed to:  "Ranking a Name does not require EP, takes rank x =
weeks
to gain rank, and can be done in instead of or addition to any other
ranking; ie Namer=E2=80=99s may rank 1, 2 or, if doing no other =
ranking, 3 names at
once."=20

How about

 "Ranking a Name does not require EP, takes rank x weeks to gain rank, =
and
can be done in addition to any other ranking; It can also replace =
ranking
any single magical or non-magical ability; ie Namers may rank 1 name =
while
learning two related abilities, 2 names with one ability or, if doing =
no
other ranking, 3 names at once."

Cheers

Errol


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<DIV><SPAN class=896304503-18112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Thanks 
Rosemary</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=896304503-18112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=896304503-18112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I 
found that I wasn't using the previous version of the PG&nbsp;while 
ranking&nbsp;on a PC&nbsp;as the PDF didn't have bookmarks (I then added my 
own). I'd offer to do this chore for you on the next version, but work has since 
got more sophisticated in how they deploy Distiller, and I can no longer get to 
a full version of Acrobat.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr 
style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman" 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz 
  [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]<B>On Behalf Of</B> 
  RMansfield@ingnz.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, 18 November 2005 
  15:12<BR><B>To:</B> dq@dq.sf.org.nz<BR><B>Subject:</B> [dq] Players Guide 
  v3<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Hi,</FONT> 
  <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>I was looking at the master of the 
  Players Guide yesterday and noticed that it has most of the outstanding 
  changes already loaded.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>I'd 
  therefore like to finish it off with the aim of issuing ver 3 by the Dec 
  meeting. &nbsp;By issuing I actually mean loading the PDF onto the Wiki and 
  other relevant web sites for players to print for themselves : - )</FONT> 
  <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Taking the Outstanding Issues List from 
  the Wiki the current state of play follows. &nbsp;The stuff in italics needs 
  action - if any one has quick answers or comments to these let me know by 
  email. </FONT><BR><BR><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT>
  <P><BR><FONT size=2><B>Adventuring skills </B></FONT><BR><FONT size=2>Quick 
  sheet for ranking is incorrect: </FONT><BR><FONT face=sans-serif 
  size=2>current line = </FONT><BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=1>Non Magic 
  Abilities // Learning Time // Ranking Time // With Trainer // Without Trainer 
  // Cost // Notes</FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=1>Adventuring skills // 
  n/a // 1 week x new rank &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;required // extensive use 
  only // 150*Rank // No time/trainer needed if used on adventure 
  </FONT><BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>&nbsp;=&gt; <I>What would you like 
  this to say?&nbsp;&nbsp;</I></FONT>&nbsp;<BR><SPAN 
  class=896304503-18112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2>&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></P></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P dir=ltr><SPAN class=896304503-18112005><FONT face=Arial size=2>How 
about:</FONT></SPAN></P><SPAN class=896304503-18112005><FONT face=Arial>
<P dir=ltr><SPAN class=896304503-18112005><FONT size=2><FONT 
face=Arial>Adventuring skills // n/a // may learn 1 rank while adventuring if 
used extensively with tutor available &nbsp;////// 150*Rank //&nbsp;may also 
learn like other skills&nbsp;</FONT><BR></FONT></SPAN></P></FONT></SPAN>
<P dir=ltr><SPAN class=896304503-18112005><FONT face=Arial size=2>(could add 
explicit line for standard ranking and drop comment)</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P dir=ltr><SPAN class=896304503-18112005><FONT face=Arial size=2>Adventuring 
skills // n/a // 1 week x new rank &nbsp; //&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;10% EP 
discount // 25% EP penalty // 150*Rank // if learnt&nbsp;using standard skill 
method</FONT></SPAN></P><SPAN class=896304503-18112005><FONT face=Arial>
<P dir=ltr><SPAN class=896304503-18112005><FONT face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P dir=ltr></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=896304503-18112005><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>Other options seem messier to me.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P dir=ltr><SPAN class=896304503-18112005><FONT face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<P dir=ltr><SPAN class=896304503-18112005><FONT face=Arial size=2>How about 
matching the order of items in the table with 7.3?</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P dir=ltr><SPAN class=896304503-18112005><FONT face=Arial size=2>Also is it 
worth mentioning the MA limit (or pointing to it) on the table? It is easy to 
overlook.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P dir=ltr><SPAN class=896304503-18112005><FONT face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr 
style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <P><SPAN class=896304503-18112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
  <P><SPAN class=896304503-18112005></SPAN><BR><FONT size=2><B>Ranking = 
  </B>Done</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>* Add a sentence clarifying split ranking, as 
  per Rule Book clarification. Rule book will say: </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>"Time 
  spent training for a particular rank of an ability may be interrupted by other 
  activity (including being on adventure). However training for a given rank 
  must be completed within 6 months of starting training for that rank."</FONT> 
  <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Added sentence "If you don’t have enough 
  time in one block to finish a rank in an ability you may split the time up but 
  all training for a given rank must be completed within 6 months of starting 
  it."</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT size=2>* 7.3.6 Names needs to spell out that it is 
  possible to rank 1, 2 or 3 Names at the same time </FONT><BR><FONT 
  face=sans-serif size=2>Wording changed to: &nbsp;"Ranking a Name does not 
  require EP, takes rank x weeks to gain rank, and can be done in instead of or 
  addition to any other ranking; ie Namer’s may rank 1, 2 or, if doing no other 
  ranking, 3 names at once."</FONT> </P></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P dir=ltr><SPAN class=896304503-18112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>How about</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P dir=ltr><SPAN class=896304503-18112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>&nbsp;<FONT color=#000000>"Ranking a Name does not require EP, takes rank 
x weeks to gain rank, and can be done in addition to any other ranking; It can 
also replace ranking any single magical or non-magical ability; ie Namers may 
rank 1 name while learning two related abilities, 2 names with one ability or, 
if doing no other ranking, 3 names at once."</FONT></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P dir=ltr><SPAN class=896304503-18112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Cheers</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P dir=ltr><SPAN class=896304503-18112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Errol</FONT></SPAN></P></BODY></HTML>

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SubjectRe: [dq] Players Guide v3
Fromian at dawn haven
DateSat, 19 Nov 2005 10:50:46 +1300
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I have full acrobat, so you are more than welcome to use my PC Errol. 

 

Ian

 

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From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] On Behalf Of
Errol Cavit
Sent: 19 November 2005 09:07
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: Re: [dq] Players Guide v3

 

Thanks Rosemary

 

I found that I wasn't using the previous version of the PG while ranking on
a PC as the PDF didn't have bookmarks (I then added my own). I'd offer to do
this chore for you on the next version, but work has since got more
sophisticated in how they deploy Distiller, and I can no longer get to a
full version of Acrobat.

-----Original Message-----
From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On Behalf Of
RMansfield@ingnz.com
Sent: Friday, 18 November 2005 15:12
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: [dq] Players Guide v3


Hi, 

I was looking at the master of the Players Guide yesterday and noticed that
it has most of the outstanding changes already loaded. 

I'd therefore like to finish it off with the aim of issuing ver 3 by the Dec
meeting.  By issuing I actually mean loading the PDF onto the Wiki and other
relevant web sites for players to print for themselves : - ) 

Taking the Outstanding Issues List from the Wiki the current state of play
follows.  The stuff in italics needs action - if any one has quick answers
or comments to these let me know by email. 


Adventuring skills 
Quick sheet for ranking is incorrect: 
current line = 

Non Magic Abilities // Learning Time // Ranking Time // With Trainer //
Without Trainer // Cost // Notes 
Adventuring skills // n/a // 1 week x new rank        required // extensive
use only // 150*Rank // No time/trainer needed if used on adventure 

 => What would you like this to say?   
 

How about:

Adventuring skills // n/a // may learn 1 rank while adventuring if used
extensively with tutor available  ////// 150*Rank // may also learn like
other skills 

(could add explicit line for standard ranking and drop comment)

Adventuring skills // n/a // 1 week x new rank   //     10% EP discount //
25% EP penalty // 150*Rank // if learnt using standard skill method

Other options seem messier to me.

 

How about matching the order of items in the table with 7.3?

Also is it worth mentioning the MA limit (or pointing to it) on the table?
It is easy to overlook.

 

 


Ranking = Done 
* Add a sentence clarifying split ranking, as per Rule Book clarification.
Rule book will say: 
"Time spent training for a particular rank of an ability may be interrupted
by other activity (including being on adventure). However training for a
given rank must be completed within 6 months of starting training for that
rank." 

Added sentence "If you don't have enough time in one block to finish a rank
in an ability you may split the time up but all training for a given rank
must be completed within 6 months of starting it." 

* 7.3.6 Names needs to spell out that it is possible to rank 1, 2 or 3 Names
at the same time 
Wording changed to:  "Ranking a Name does not require EP, takes rank x weeks
to gain rank, and can be done in instead of or addition to any other
ranking; ie Namer's may rank 1, 2 or, if doing no other ranking, 3 names at
once." 

How about

 "Ranking a Name does not require EP, takes rank x weeks to gain rank, and
can be done in addition to any other ranking; It can also replace ranking
any single magical or non-magical ability; ie Namers may rank 1 name while
learning two related abilities, 2 names with one ability or, if doing no
other ranking, 3 names at once."

Cheers

Errol


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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 19 November 2005 =
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> dq@dq.sf.org.nz<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [dq] Players =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I found that I wasn't using the =
previous
version of the PG&nbsp;while ranking&nbsp;on a PC&nbsp;as the PDF didn't =
have
bookmarks (I then added my own). I'd offer to do this chore for you on =
the next
version, but work has since got more sophisticated in how they deploy
Distiller, and I can no longer get to a full version of =
Acrobat.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D2
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> =
dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz
[mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On =
Behalf Of</span></b>
RMansfield@ingnz.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, 18 November =
2005
15:12<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> dq@dq.sf.org.nz<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [dq] Players =
Guide v3</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:sans-serif'>Hi,</span></font> <br>
<br>
<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>I
was looking at the master of the Players Guide yesterday and noticed =
that it
has most of the outstanding changes already loaded.</span></font> <br>
<br>
<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>I'd
therefore like to finish it off with the aim of issuing ver 3 by the Dec
meeting. &nbsp;By issuing I actually mean loading the PDF onto the Wiki =
and
other relevant web sites for players to print for themselves : - =
)</span></font>
<br>
<br>
<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>Taking
the Outstanding Issues List from the Wiki the current state of play =
follows. &nbsp;The
stuff in italics needs action - if any one has quick answers or comments =
to
these let me know by email. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><br>
</span></font><b><font size=3D2><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>Adventuring
skills </span></font></b><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Quick sheet for ranking =
is
incorrect: </span></font><br>
<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>current
line =3D </span></font><br>
<br>
<font size=3D1 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:7.5pt;font-family:sans-serif'>Non
Magic Abilities // Learning Time // Ranking Time // With Trainer // =
Without
Trainer // Cost // Notes</span></font> <br>
<font size=3D1 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:7.5pt;font-family:sans-serif'>Adventuring
skills // n/a // 1 week x new rank &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;required =
//
extensive use only // 150*Rank // No time/trainer needed if used on =
adventure </span></font><br>
<br>
<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>&nbsp;=3D&gt;
<i><span style=3D'font-style:italic'>What would you like this to =
say?&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></i></span></font>&nbsp;<br>
<font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:blue'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</blockquote>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>How
about:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Adventuring
skills // n/a // may learn 1 rank while adventuring if used extensively =
with
tutor available &nbsp;////// 150*Rank //&nbsp;may also learn like other
skills&nbsp;</span></font><font face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>(could
add explicit line for standard ranking and drop =
comment)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Adventuring
skills // n/a // 1 week x new rank &nbsp; =
//&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;10% EP
discount // 25% EP penalty // 150*Rank // if learnt&nbsp;using standard =
skill
method</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Other
options seem messier to me.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>How
about matching the order of items in the table with =
7.3?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Also
is it worth mentioning the MA limit (or pointing to it) on the table? It =
is
easy to overlook.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid blue =
1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;
margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'=
>

<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><br>
</span></font><b><font size=3D2><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>Ranking
=3D </span></font></b><font size=3D2><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Done</span></font>
<br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>* Add a sentence =
clarifying split
ranking, as per Rule Book clarification. Rule book will say: =
</span></font><br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&quot;Time spent =
training for a
particular rank of an ability may be interrupted by other activity =
(including
being on adventure). However training for a given rank must be completed =
within
6 months of starting training for that rank.&quot;</span></font> <br>
<br>
<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>Added
sentence &quot;If you don&#8217;t have enough time in one block to =
finish a rank in
an ability you may split the time up but all training for a given rank =
must be
completed within 6 months of starting it.&quot;</span></font> <br>
<br>
<font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>* 7.3.6 Names needs to =
spell out
that it is possible to rank 1, 2 or 3 Names at the same time =
</span></font><br>
<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>Wording
changed to: &nbsp;&quot;Ranking a Name does not require EP, takes rank x =
weeks
to gain rank, and can be done in instead of or addition to any other =
ranking;
ie Namer&#8217;s may rank 1, 2 or, if doing no other ranking, 3 names at =
once.&quot;</span></font>
<o:p></o:p></p>

</blockquote>

<p><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:blue'>How about</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:blue'>&nbsp;</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>&quot;Ranking a =
Name
does not require EP, takes rank x weeks to gain rank, and can be done in
addition to any other ranking; It can also replace ranking any single =
magical
or non-magical ability; ie Namers may rank 1 name while learning two =
related
abilities, 2 names with one ability or, if doing no other ranking, 3 =
names at
once.&quot;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:blue'>Cheers</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:blue'>Errol</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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FromErrol Cavit
DateSat, 19 Nov 2005 11:22:23 +1300
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No prob. I also keep on thinking of new tweaks for the PG, just editing the
Wiki page now...

-----Original Message-----
From: ian at dawn haven [mailto:dawnhaven@xtra.co.nz]
Sent: Saturday, 19 November 2005 10:51
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: Re: [dq] Players Guide v3



I have full acrobat, so you are more than welcome to use my PC Errol... 

 

Ian

 


  _____  


From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] On Behalf Of
Errol Cavit
Sent: 19 November 2005 09:07
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: Re: [dq] Players Guide v3

 

Thanks Rosemary

 

I found that I wasn't using the previous version of the PG while ranking on
a PC as the PDF didn't have bookmarks (I then added my own). I'd offer to do
this chore for you on the next version, but work has since got more
sophisticated in how they deploy Distiller, and I can no longer get to a
full version of Acrobat.

-----Original Message-----
From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On Behalf Of
RMansfield@ingnz.com
Sent: Friday, 18 November 2005 15:12
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: [dq] Players Guide v3


Hi, 

I was looking at the master of the Players Guide yesterday and noticed that
it has most of the outstanding changes already loaded. 

I'd therefore like to finish it off with the aim of issuing ver 3 by the Dec
meeting.  By issuing I actually mean loading the PDF onto the Wiki and other
relevant web sites for players to print for themselves : - ) 

Taking the Outstanding Issues List from the Wiki the current state of play
follows.  The stuff in italics needs action - if any one has quick answers
or comments to these let me know by email. 


Adventuring skills 
Quick sheet for ranking is incorrect: 
current line = 

Non Magic Abilities // Learning Time // Ranking Time // With Trainer //
Without Trainer // Cost // Notes 
Adventuring skills // n/a // 1 week x new rank        required // extensive
use only // 150*Rank // No time/trainer needed if used on adventure 

 => What would you like this to say?   
 

How about:

Adventuring skills // n/a // may learn 1 rank while adventuring if used
extensively with tutor available  ////// 150*Rank // may also learn like
other skills 

(could add explicit line for standard ranking and drop comment)

Adventuring skills // n/a // 1 week x new rank   //     10% EP discount //
25% EP penalty // 150*Rank // if learnt using standard skill method

Other options seem messier to me.

 

How about matching the order of items in the table with 7.3?

Also is it worth mentioning the MA limit (or pointing to it) on the table?
It is easy to overlook.

 

 


Ranking = Done 
* Add a sentence clarifying split ranking, as per Rule Book clarification.
Rule book will say: 
"Time spent training for a particular rank of an ability may be interrupted
by other activity (including being on adventure). However training for a
given rank must be completed within 6 months of starting training for that
rank." 

Added sentence "If you don't have enough time in one block to finish a rank
in an ability you may split the time up but all training for a given rank
must be completed within 6 months of starting it." 

* 7.3.6 Names needs to spell out that it is possible to rank 1, 2 or 3 Names
at the same time 
Wording changed to:  "Ranking a Name does not require EP, takes rank x weeks
to gain rank, and can be done in instead of or addition to any other
ranking; ie Namer's may rank 1, 2 or, if doing no other ranking, 3 names at
once." 

How about

 "Ranking a Name does not require EP, takes rank x weeks to gain rank, and
can be done in addition to any other ranking; It can also replace ranking
any single magical or non-magical ability; ie Namers may rank 1 name while
learning two related abilities, 2 names with one ability or, if doing no
other ranking, 3 names at once."

Cheers

Errol


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color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>No=20
prob. I also keep on thinking of new tweaks for the PG, just editing =
the Wiki=20
page now...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> ian at dawn haven =

  [mailto:dawnhaven@xtra.co.nz]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, 19 November =
2005=20
  10:51<BR><B>To:</B> dq@dq.sf.org.nz<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [dq] =
Players Guide=20
  v3<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DSection1>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have =
full acrobat,=20
  so you are more than welcome to use my PC Errol... =
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Ian<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From=
:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
  face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">=20
  dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] <B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Errol =
Cavit<BR><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 19 November 2005 =
09:07<BR><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> =
dq@dq.sf.org.nz<BR><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [dq] Players =
Guide=20
  v3</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks=20
  Rosemary</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I found =
that I wasn't=20
  using the previous version of the PG&nbsp;while ranking&nbsp;on a =
PC&nbsp;as=20
  the PDF didn't have bookmarks (I then added my own). I'd offer to do =
this=20
  chore for you on the next version, but work has since got more =
sophisticated=20
  in how they deploy Distiller, and I can no longer get to a full =
version of=20
  Acrobat.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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    size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original =
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz=20
    [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]<B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">On Behalf=20
    Of</SPAN></B> RMansfield@ingnz.com<BR><B><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, 18 November =
2005=20
    15:12<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
    dq@dq.sf.org.nz<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>=20
    [dq] Players Guide v3</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
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face=3Dsans-serif=20
    size=3D2><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
sans-serif">Hi,</SPAN></FONT>=20
    <BR><BR><FONT face=3Dsans-serif size=3D2><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">I was looking at =
the master=20
    of the Players Guide yesterday and noticed that it has most of the=20
    outstanding changes already loaded.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT=20
    face=3Dsans-serif size=3D2><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">I'd therefore =
like to=20
    finish it off with the aim of issuing ver 3 by the Dec meeting. =
&nbsp;By=20
    issuing I actually mean loading the PDF onto the Wiki and other =
relevant web=20
    sites for players to print for themselves : - )</SPAN></FONT> =
<BR><BR><FONT=20
    face=3Dsans-serif size=3D2><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">Taking the =
Outstanding=20
    Issues List from the Wiki the current state of play follows. =
&nbsp;The stuff=20
    in italics needs action - if any one has quick answers or comments =
to these=20
    let me know by email. </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
    <P><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT><B><FONT size=3D2><SPAN =

    style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Adventuring skills=20
    </SPAN></FONT></B><BR><FONT size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">Quick sheet=20
    for ranking is incorrect: </SPAN></FONT><BR><FONT face=3Dsans-serif =

    size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
sans-serif">current line =3D=20
    </SPAN></FONT><BR><BR><FONT face=3Dsans-serif size=3D1><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">Non Magic =
Abilities //=20
    Learning Time // Ranking Time // With Trainer // Without Trainer // =
Cost //=20
    Notes</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=3Dsans-serif size=3D1><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">Adventuring =
skills // n/a=20
    // 1 week x new rank &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;required // =
extensive use=20
    only // 150*Rank // No time/trainer needed if used on adventure=20
    </SPAN></FONT><BR><BR><FONT face=3Dsans-serif size=3D2><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">&nbsp;=3D&gt; =
<I><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-STYLE: italic">What would you like this to=20
    say?&nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN></I></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;<BR><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
    color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></BLOCKQUOTE>
  <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">How=20
  about:</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
  <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Adventuring skills // =
n/a // may=20
  learn 1 rank while adventuring if used extensively with tutor =
available=20
  &nbsp;////// 150*Rank //&nbsp;may also learn like other=20
  skills&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">(could add explicit =
line for=20
  standard ranking and drop comment)</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
  <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Adventuring skills // =
n/a // 1=20
  week x new rank &nbsp; //&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;10% EP =
discount // 25%=20
  EP penalty // 150*Rank // if learnt&nbsp;using standard skill=20
  method</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
  <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Other options seem =
messier to=20
  me.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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or=20
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names at=20
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SubjectRe: [dq] Players Guide V3 - Contact details for GM's
FromErrol Cavit
DateSat, 19 Nov 2005 11:50:30 +1300
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I agree with all of the below, including moving the GM contact list to the
Wiki (PG should refer to specific Wiki page to minimise hassle for new
players)
 
Don't forget the Character's DB for 1.16
 
Cheers
Errol

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From: RMansfield@ingnz.com [mailto:RMansfield@ingnz.com]
Sent: Friday, 18 November 2005 17:06
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: [dq] Players Guide V3 - Contact details for GM's



I have looked at the GM contact list (and other stuff on page 6 of the
Guide) and had some thoughts I'd like 2nd opinions on: 


1.14 Getting a Rule Book 
I am going to reference the Wiki rather than publishing details 

1.15 GM contact list 
- Would this be better moved to the Wiki? 

- Personal Phone numbers available on a web site is generally considered a
bad thing 
        Even if we don't move the contact details onto the Wiki the Players
Guide should be on the Wiki 
        I think phone numbers should be removed - maybe with a note that
folks can request phone numbers by email ??? 
        Maybe it's just me - I don't want my home number on a web site 

1.16 Web Pages and Mailing Lists 
This will be updated and will include addressses for the library, the wiki,
GM's assistance, and the Vault 

Regards,
Rosemary



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Fromian at dawn haven
DateSat, 19 Nov 2005 12:06:52 +1300
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Not sure I want my home email address on the web site either.

 

Ok if it is held blindly, but I do not want some web crawler to spam my
account. Mind u it has been on there for a while anyway, not sure how the
contacts for tribunals are handled.

 

Ian

 

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From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] On Behalf Of
Errol Cavit
Sent: 19 November 2005 11:51
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: Re: [dq] Players Guide V3 - Contact details for GM's

 

I agree with all of the below, including moving the GM contact list to the
Wiki (PG should refer to specific Wiki page to minimise hassle for new
players)

 

Don't forget the Character's DB for 1.16

 

Cheers

Errol

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Sent: Friday, 18 November 2005 17:06
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: [dq] Players Guide V3 - Contact details for GM's


I have looked at the GM contact list (and other stuff on page 6 of the
Guide) and had some thoughts I'd like 2nd opinions on: 


1.14 Getting a Rule Book 
I am going to reference the Wiki rather than publishing details 

1.15 GM contact list 
- Would this be better moved to the Wiki? 

- Personal Phone numbers available on a web site is generally considered a
bad thing 
        Even if we don't move the contact details onto the Wiki the Players
Guide should be on the Wiki 
        I think phone numbers should be removed - maybe with a note that
folks can request phone numbers by email ??? 
        Maybe it's just me - I don't want my home number on a web site 

1.16 Web Pages and Mailing Lists 
This will be updated and will include addressses for the library, the wiki,
GM's assistance, and the Vault 

Regards,
Rosemary


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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 19 November 2005 =
11:51<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> dq@dq.sf.org.nz<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [dq] Players =
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</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
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stuff
on page 6 of the Guide) and had some thoughts I'd like 2nd opinions =
on:</span></font>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>1.14
Getting a Rule Book</span></font> <br>
<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>I
am going to reference the Wiki rather than publishing =
details</span></font> <br>
<br>
<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>1.15
GM contact list</span></font> <br>
<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>-
Would this be better moved to the Wiki?</span></font> <br>
<br>
<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>-
Personal Phone numbers available on a web site is generally considered a =
bad
thing</span></font> <br>
<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>&nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Even if we don't move the contact details onto the =
Wiki
the Players Guide should be on the Wiki</span></font> <br>
<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>&nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I think phone numbers should be removed - maybe =
with a
note that folks can request phone numbers by email ???</span></font> =
<br>
<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>&nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Maybe it's just me - I don't want my home number on =
a web
site</span></font> <br>
<br>
<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>1.16
Web Pages and Mailing Lists</span></font> <br>
<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>This
will be updated and will include addressses for the library, the wiki, =
GM's
assistance, and the Vault</span></font> <br>
<br>
<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>Regards,<br>
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SubjectRe: [dq] Players Guide V3 - Contact details for GM's
Fromphaeton@ihug.co.nz
DateSat, 19 Nov 2005 13:08:23 +1300
> Not sure I want my home email address on the web site
> either.

No, it's not a good idea to have e-mail addresses online
because of spam-bots, and I'd rather mine not be there - I'm
getting too much spam as it is, spam filters irregardless.
However, using graphics to display the email address should
at least slow them down.

Also, if the wiki site goes down, or is otherwise
unavaliable, I'd rather contact details be printed in the
Guide. It will not always be convienient to access the Wiki
for details when you need them, and some people do not have
regular internet access who may require them.

Basically, I'd rather not put all our eggs in one basket.

Keith


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FromErrol Cavit
DateSat, 19 Nov 2005 19:04:04 +1300
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Hi all, I've been having a play with both Wiki tables, and applying the sub
skill rules change to the various Skills.
 
http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/Pending_Rule_Changes#SubSkill
s
<http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/Pending_Rule_Changes#SubSkil
ls> 
 
Feedback (on the talk page) welcome, especially if it is before I add the
other skills to the table tomorrow.
Thanks again to those that provided kewl Wiki skilz earlier.
 
This layout (with whatever improvements happen) could be used for the many
spelling/grammar/reword tweaks as well.
 
Cheers
Errol

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all, I've been having a play with both Wiki tables, and applying the =
sub skill=20
rules change to the various Skills.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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href=3D"http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/Pending_Rule_Chan=
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before I add the=20
other skills to the table tomorrow.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Thanks=20
again to those that provided kewl Wiki skilz =
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color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>This=20
layout (with whatever improvements happen) could be used for the many=20
spelling/grammar/reword tweaks as well.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D530115605-19112005><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Cheers</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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