SubjectRe: [dq] Another Compromise.
FromJohanna and Hamish
DateThu, 8 Dec 2005 00:08:32 +1300
I haven't needed to read 100 emails about this, I agreed with Mandos when he
talked about a matter of perceptions in response one. I have found the
following emails interesting though.  

I don't want to see Sear Hunted down and killed even though I think he's
probably bad.  Black and white is boring.

ALSO - I support the campaign committee.  I think if people have a problem
with the committee decisions they should join the committee.  Other wise
lump it.  If we don't do this we either have one person tell us how it is -
or chaos.

Not that I mind chaos too much - hmmm maybe I'm more aligned to sear than I
thought....

Hamish Brown
Director

Zenergy
Whole People Co-operating in a Sustainable world
119 Mt Eden Rd,
Auckland
www.zenergyglobal.com 


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From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] On Behalf Of
Jonathan Bean - TME
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 4:47 PM
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: Re: [dq] Another Compromise.


I think you get a free fish when you employ Master Assassin Phaton.

Kind regards,

Jonathan Bean

-----Original Message-----
From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On Behalf Of
Michael Scott
Sent: Wednesday, 7 December 2005 2:39 p.m.
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: Re: [dq] Another Compromise.


Time for all those Guild Assassins to ern a few quid and prove thier
reputations are deserved.

Master Assassin Phaton, how much to remove the head of the Michaeline Order?
Can I afford you?
Can I get a bulk discount?

TTFN
Michael

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Subject[dq] Carzalan Nobility and court
FromWilliam Dymock
DateThu, 8 Dec 2005 11:38:11 +1300
Which PCs hold noble titles in Carzala?
Or offices eg sherrif, privy purse, stablemaster, bog-boy, whatever.

I just think this would be handy for all GMs to know.

Carzalan titles only for the mo. No Wog titles.

William
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SubjectRe: [dq] Carzalan Nobility and court
FromJonathan Bean - TME
DateFri, 9 Dec 2005 11:58:02 +1300
Given that New Haven is currently part of the Duchy of Carzala:

Baron Logan Bury
Baron Engalton Redwood & Sheriff of New Haven.
Baron Morgan Laffayette

Kind regards,
Jonathan Bean


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SubjectRe: [dq] Carzalan Nobility and court
FromGordon Lewis
DateThu, 8 Dec 2005 12:54:10 +1300
Sir Douglas Walin - Baronette South-East Boulton

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William Dymock
Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2005 11:38 a.m.
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: [dq] Carzalan Nobility and court

Which PCs hold noble titles in Carzala?
Or offices eg sherrif, privy purse, stablemaster, bog-boy, whatever.

I just think this would be handy for all GMs to know.

Carzalan titles only for the mo. No Wog titles.

William
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SubjectRe: [dq] Carzalan Nobility and court
FromMartin Dickson
DateThu, 8 Dec 2005 14:39:36 +1300
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On 12/9/05, Jonathan Bean - TME <Jonathan@tme.co.nz> wrote:
>
> Given that New Haven is currently part of the Duchy of Carzala:
>
> Baron Logan Bury
> Baron Engalton Redwood & Sheriff of New Haven.
> Baron Morgan Laffayette


Curiousity strikes...

Logan Bury is Baron New Haven, yes?
Engalton is Sheriff of New Haven -- where does he hold his Barony?
Ditto Morgan -- Baron of ?

Or are these not landed titles?

Regards,
Martin

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ef=3D"mailto:Jonathan@tme.co.nz">Jonathan@tme.co.nz</a>&gt; wrote:<div><spa=
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Given that New Haven is currently part of the Duchy of Carzala:<br><br>Baro=
n Logan Bury<br>Baron Engalton Redwood &amp; Sheriff of New Haven.<br>Baron=
 Morgan Laffayette</blockquote><div><br>Curiousity strikes...<br><br>Logan =
Bury is Baron New Haven, yes?
<br>Engalton is Sheriff of New Haven -- where does he hold his Barony?<br>D=
itto Morgan -- Baron of ?<br><br>Or are these not landed titles?<br><br>Reg=
ards,<br>Martin<br></div></div><br>

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SubjectRe: [dq] Carzalan Nobility and court
FromErrol Cavit
DateThu, 8 Dec 2005 14:43:33 +1300
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From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On Behalf Of
Martin Dickson
Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2005 14:40
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: Re: [dq] Carzalan Nobility and court


On 12/9/05, Jonathan Bean - TME < Jonathan@tme.co.nz
<mailto:Jonathan@tme.co.nz> > wrote: 


Given that New Haven is currently part of the Duchy of Carzala:

Baron Logan Bury
Baron Engalton Redwood & Sheriff of New Haven.
Baron Morgan Laffayette


Curiousity strikes...

Logan Bury is Baron New Haven, yes? 
Engalton is Sheriff of New Haven -- where does he hold his Barony? 
 

Redwood?
I'll get my coat.....
 
Errol
 
PS I assume the info once collected will go on a Wiki page/category or
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  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman" 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz 
  [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]<B>On Behalf Of</B> Martin 
  Dickson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 8 December 2005 14:40<BR><B>To:</B> 
  dq@dq.sf.org.nz<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [dq] Carzalan Nobility and 
  court<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>On 12/9/05, <B class=gmail_sendername>Jonathan Bean 
  - TME</B> &lt;<A href="mailto:Jonathan@tme.co.nz">Jonathan@tme.co.nz</A>&gt; 
  wrote:
  <DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote></SPAN>
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote 
  style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Given 
    that New Haven is currently part of the Duchy of Carzala:<BR><BR>Baron Logan 
    Bury<BR>Baron Engalton Redwood &amp; Sheriff of New Haven.<BR>Baron Morgan 
    Laffayette</BLOCKQUOTE>
  <DIV><BR>Curiousity strikes...<BR><BR>Logan Bury is Baron New Haven, yes? 
  <BR>Engalton is Sheriff of New Haven -- where does he hold his Barony?<SPAN 
  class=346044201-08122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2>&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=346044201-08122005></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><SPAN class=346044201-08122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
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<DIV><SPAN class=346044201-08122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I'll 
get my coat.....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=346044201-08122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Errol</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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SubjectRe: [dq] Carzalan Nobility and court
FromJonathan Bean - TME
DateFri, 9 Dec 2005 14:48:16 +1300
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Part of the offer by the Duke Leto to us join Carzala and pay taxes etc was
that all three of the founders would gain the rank of Baron.
As far as the running of NewHaven goes on a day to day basis - Baron Logan
is the Baron, Engalton is the Sheriff and no one knows what Morgan does.

This is why their are three Barons of NewHaven in the Carzala court. Yes it
is odd and not common knowledge as not a lot of people know about it and to
date when and if they have known they do not care.

Jonathan Bean


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  From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On Behalf Of
Martin Dickson
  Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2005 2:40 p.m.
  To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
  Subject: Re: [dq] Carzalan Nobility and court


  On 12/9/05, Jonathan Bean - TME <Jonathan@tme.co.nz> wrote:
    Given that New Haven is currently part of the Duchy of Carzala:

    Baron Logan Bury
    Baron Engalton Redwood & Sheriff of New Haven.
    Baron Morgan Laffayette

  Curiousity strikes...

  Logan Bury is Baron New Haven, yes?
  Engalton is Sheriff of New Haven -- where does he hold his Barony?
  Ditto Morgan -- Baron of ?

  Or are these not landed titles?

  Regards,
  Martin



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<DIV><SPAN class=3D252294101-09122005><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

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Morgan=20
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SubjectRe: [dq] Carzalan Nobility and court
FromJonathan Bean - TME
DateFri, 9 Dec 2005 14:55:44 +1300
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Check out the Wiki at:

http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/Logan
http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/Engalton

You can see under Logan and Engaltons that it is clear, but under Morgans
you need to dig a bit more.

http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/Morgan

As well as under the New Haven page under people, you will see Logan and
Engalton who are active and do not hide the fact but  you will also notice
that Morgan is not listed (but then he is a shady type who is rumoured to be
a former pirate).

Jono



-----Original Message-----
From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On Behalf Of
Martin Dickson
Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2005 2:40 p.m.
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: Re: [dq] Carzalan Nobility and court


  On 12/9/05, Jonathan Bean - TME <Jonathan@tme.co.nz> wrote:
    Given that New Haven is currently part of the Duchy of Carzala:

    Baron Logan Bury
    Baron Engalton Redwood & Sheriff of New Haven.
    Baron Morgan Laffayette

  Curiousity strikes...

  Logan Bury is Baron New Haven, yes?
  Engalton is Sheriff of New Haven -- where does he hold his Barony?
  Ditto Morgan -- Baron of ?

  Or are these not landed titles?

  Regards,
  Martin



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href=3D"http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/Engalton"><FONT =
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Morgan=20
    Laffayette</BLOCKQUOTE>
  <DIV><BR>Curiousity strikes...<BR><BR>Logan Bury is Baron New Haven, =
yes?=20
  <BR>Engalton is Sheriff of New Haven -- where does he hold his=20
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SubjectRe: [dq] Carzalan Nobility and court
FromJonathan Bean - TME
DateFri, 9 Dec 2005 15:00:34 +1300
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Also that is why the three sets of Arms are different on the newHaven page;
http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/Image:COVER.JPG

Jono
  -----Original Message-----
  From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On Behalf Of
Martin Dickson
  Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2005 2:40 p.m.
  To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
  Subject: Re: [dq] Carzalan Nobility and court


  On 12/9/05, Jonathan Bean - TME <Jonathan@tme.co.nz> wrote:
    Given that New Haven is currently part of the Duchy of Carzala:

    Baron Logan Bury
    Baron Engalton Redwood & Sheriff of New Haven.
    Baron Morgan Laffayette

  Curiousity strikes...

  Logan Bury is Baron New Haven, yes?
  Engalton is Sheriff of New Haven -- where does he hold his Barony?
  Ditto Morgan -- Baron of ?

  Or are these not landed titles?

  Regards,
  Martin



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<DIV><SPAN class=3D900435801-09122005><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2>Jono</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=3DTahoma=20
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dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz=20
  [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Martin=20
  Dickson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 8 December 2005 2:40 =
p.m.<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  dq@dq.sf.org.nz<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [dq] Carzalan Nobility and=20
  court<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>On 12/9/05, <B =
class=3Dgmail_sendername>Jonathan Bean=20
  - TME</B> &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:Jonathan@tme.co.nz">Jonathan@tme.co.nz</A>&gt;=20
  wrote:
  <DIV><SPAN class=3Dgmail_quote></SPAN>
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  style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: =
rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Given=20
    that New Haven is currently part of the Duchy of =
Carzala:<BR><BR>Baron Logan=20
    Bury<BR>Baron Engalton Redwood &amp; Sheriff of New Haven.<BR>Baron =
Morgan=20
    Laffayette</BLOCKQUOTE>
  <DIV><BR>Curiousity strikes...<BR><BR>Logan Bury is Baron New Haven, =
yes?=20
  <BR>Engalton is Sheriff of New Haven -- where does he hold his=20
  Barony?<BR>Ditto Morgan -- Baron of ?<BR><BR>Or are these not landed=20
  =
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SubjectRe: [dq] Carzalan Nobility and court
FromMartin Dickson
DateThu, 8 Dec 2005 15:09:01 +1300
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On 12/9/05, Jonathan Bean - TME <Jonathan@tme.co.nz> wrote:
>
>
> Part of the offer by the Duke Leto to us join Carzala and pay taxes etc
> was that all three of the founders would gain the rank of Baron.
>

Cool -- ta.

...no one knows what Morgan does.
>

Admiral? :-)


Cheers,
Martin

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ef=3D"mailto:Jonathan@tme.co.nz">Jonathan@tme.co.nz</a>&gt; wrote:<div><spa=
n class=3D"gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"b=
order-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; paddin=
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<div><span><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font></span>=
&nbsp;</div>
<div><span><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Part=20
of the offer by the Duke Leto&nbsp;to&nbsp;us&nbsp;join Carzala and pay tax=
es=20
etc was that all three of the founders would gain the rank of=20
Baron.</font></span></div></blockquote><div><br>Cool -- ta. <br></div><br><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 2=
04, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><span><font c=
olor=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">
...no one knows what Morgan=20
does.</font></span></div></blockquote><div><br>Admiral? :-) <br><br><br>Che=
ers,<br>Martin<br></div></div><br>

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SubjectRe: [dq] Carzalan Nobility and court
FromJonathan Bean - TME
DateFri, 9 Dec 2005 15:12:30 +1300
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We dont talk about him a lot and leave it at that... and sometimes damaged
ships turn up in port in need of repair sometimes with Morgans crew on
board.
It doesn't happen often. But I have been meaning to talk to Morgan about
this... ;-)

Engalton

  -----Original Message-----
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Martin Dickson
  Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2005 3:09 p.m.
  To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
  Subject: Re: [dq] Carzalan Nobility and court


  On 12/9/05, Jonathan Bean - TME <Jonathan@tme.co.nz> wrote:

    Part of the offer by the Duke Leto to us join Carzala and pay taxes etc
was that all three of the founders would gain the rank of Baron.

  Cool -- ta.



    ...no one knows what Morgan does.

  Admiral? :-)


  Cheers,
  Martin



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size=3D2>We=20
dont talk about him a lot and leave it at that... and sometimes damaged =
ships=20
turn up in port in need of repair sometimes with Morgans crew on=20
board.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D836231002-09122005><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>It=20
doesn't happen often. </FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
class=3D836231002-09122005><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>But I have been meaning to talk to =
Morgan about=20
this... ;-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D836231002-09122005><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D836231002-09122005><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2>Engalton</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D836231002-09122005><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
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face=3DTahoma=20
  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz=20
  [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Martin=20
  Dickson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 8 December 2005 3:09 =
p.m.<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  dq@dq.sf.org.nz<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [dq] Carzalan Nobility and=20
  court<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>On 12/9/05, <B =
class=3Dgmail_sendername>Jonathan Bean=20
  - TME</B> &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:Jonathan@tme.co.nz">Jonathan@tme.co.nz</A>&gt;=20
  wrote:
  <DIV><SPAN class=3Dgmail_quote></SPAN>
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20
  style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: =
rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">
    <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Part of the =
offer by the=20
    Duke Leto&nbsp;to&nbsp;us&nbsp;join Carzala and pay taxes etc was =
that all=20
    three of the founders would gain the rank of=20
  Baron.</FONT></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
  <DIV><BR>Cool -- ta. <BR></DIV><BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20
  style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: =
rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">
    <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>...no one =
knows what Morgan=20
    does.</FONT></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
  <DIV><BR>Admiral? :-)=20
<BR><BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>Martin<BR></DIV></DIV><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HT=
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SubjectRe: [dq] Carzalan Nobility and court
FromMichael Parkinson
DateThu, 8 Dec 2005 15:46:00 +1300
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Please -- there are some titles that should not be besmirched ... or =
rather there must be a much better, more interesting title to use:
=20
Count of the Seisin Shore; Seek=FCstgraf; K=FCstenw=E4rter; Warden of =
the Cinque Ports; Meersch=FCtztKommandant; Lord High Constable of the =
Sea-Marines.

...no one knows what Morgan does.


Admiral? :-)=20



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... or=20
rather there must be a much better, more <EM>interesting</EM> title to=20
use:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D019262802-08122005><FONT face=3D"Lucida Bright" =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D019262802-08122005><FONT><FONT face=3D"Lucida =
Bright"><FONT=20
size=3D2>Count of the Seisin Shore; Seek=FCstgraf; K=FCstenw=E4rter; =
Warden of the=20
Cinque Ports; Meersch=FCtztKommandant; Lord High Constable of the=20
Sea-Marines.</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px =
solid">
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    <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>...no one =
knows what Morgan=20
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Subject[dq] GM Guide 2005
FromJonathan Bean - TME
DateFri, 9 Dec 2005 15:46:48 +1300
Hi folks,

Since itís gone quit after the Seir gate episode (not to be confused with
Watergate);

In case some people missed it;
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

We are hoping to have a 2005 edition of the DQ GM Guide updated and printed
with a A3 colour Seagate map, new boats section, [centre fold of Mordin the
Dwarf and Sabrina the Elf] by the Guide meeting :-)

Each copy will be $15.00
If you would like one please put your name on the list at; and bring $15.00
to the guide meeting.

http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/DQ_GM_Guide_2005_orders

Thanks

Jonathan bean


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SubjectRe: [dq] Carzalan Nobility and court
FromErrol Cavit
DateThu, 8 Dec 2005 16:00:23 +1300
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I know about the Warden of the Cinque Ports, but which of the other =
titles
were used to give legitimacy to a pirates/smugglers too successful to
eliminate?
=20
Thanks
Errol

-----Original Message-----
From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On Behalf Of
Michael Parkinson
Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2005 15:46
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: Re: [dq] Carzalan Nobility and court


Please -- there are some titles that should not be besmirched ... or =
rather
there must be a much better, more interesting title to use:
=20
Count of the Seisin Shore; Seek=FCstgraf; K=FCstenw=E4rter; Warden of =
the Cinque
Ports; Meersch=FCtztKommandant; Lord High Constable of the Sea-Marines.

...no one knows what Morgan does.


Admiral? :-)=20



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about the Warden of the Cinque Ports, but which of the other titles =
were used to=20
give legitimacy to a pirates/smugglers too successful to=20
eliminate?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D606454802-08122005><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D606454802-08122005><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Thanks</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D606454802-08122005><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Errol</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz=20
  [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]<B>On Behalf Of</B> Michael=20
  Parkinson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 8 December 2005 =
15:46<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  dq@dq.sf.org.nz<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [dq] Carzalan Nobility and=20
  court<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D019262802-08122005><FONT face=3D"Lucida Bright" =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Please -- there are some titles that should not be =
besmirched ... or=20
  rather there must be a much better, more <EM>interesting</EM> title =
to=20
  use:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D019262802-08122005><FONT face=3D"Lucida Bright" =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D019262802-08122005><FONT size=3D+0><FONT=20
  face=3D"Lucida Bright"><FONT size=3D2>Count of the Seisin Shore; =
Seek=FCstgraf;=20
  K=FCstenw=E4rter; Warden of the Cinque Ports; =
Meersch=FCtztKommandant; Lord High=20
  Constable of the Sea-Marines.</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE=20
  style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff =
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rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">
      <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>...no one =
knows what=20
      Morgan does.</FONT></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
    <DIV align=3Dleft><BR>Admiral? :-)=20
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SubjectRe: [dq] Carzalan Nobility and court
FromMichael Parkinson
DateThu, 8 Dec 2005 16:23:23 +1300
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Actually such persons were usually knighted instead (Sir John Hawkins; =
Sir Francis Drake; Sir John Watts; Sir Henry Morgan; Sir Roger Douglas)

-----Original Message-----
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Errol Cavit
Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2005 4:00 p.m.
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: Re: [dq] Carzalan Nobility and court


I know about the Warden of the Cinque Ports, but which of the other =
titles were used to give legitimacy to a pirates/smugglers too =
successful to eliminate?
=20
Thanks
Errol=20

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  [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Errol =
Cavit<BR><B>Sent:</B>=20
  Thursday, 8 December 2005 4:00 p.m.<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  dq@dq.sf.org.nz<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [dq] Carzalan Nobility and=20
  court<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D606454802-08122005><FONT face=3DArial =
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  know about the Warden of the Cinque Ports, but which of the other =
titles were=20
  used to give legitimacy to a pirates/smugglers too successful to=20
  eliminate?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D606454802-08122005><FONT face=3DArial =
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  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D606454802-08122005><FONT face=3DArial =
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Comptroller of Customs, Plymouth
> 
> From: Michael Parkinson <m.parkinson@auckland.ac.nz>
> Date: 2005/12/08 Thu PM 04:23:23 GMT+13:00
> To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
> Subject: Re: [dq] Carzalan Nobility and court
> 
> Actually such persons were usually knighted instead (Sir John Hawkins; Sir Francis Drake; Sir John Watts; Sir Henry Morgan; Sir Roger Douglas)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On Behalf Of Errol Cavit
> Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2005 4:00 p.m.
> To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
> Subject: Re: [dq] Carzalan Nobility and court
> 
> 
> I know about the Warden of the Cinque Ports, but which of the other titles were used to give legitimacy to a pirates/smugglers too successful to eliminate?
>  
> Thanks
> Errol 
> 
>  
> 
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(Sir John Hawkins; Sir Francis Drake; Sir John Watts; Sir Henry Morgan; Sir 
Roger Douglas)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
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  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz 
  [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Errol Cavit<BR><B>Sent:</B> 
  Thursday, 8 December 2005 4:00 p.m.<BR><B>To:</B> 
  dq@dq.sf.org.nz<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [dq] Carzalan Nobility and 
  court<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=606454802-08122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I 
  know about the Warden of the Cinque Ports, but which of the other titles were 
  used to give legitimacy to a pirates/smugglers too successful to 
  eliminate?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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Subject[dq-announce] Closing Agenda for Voting Issues
FromStephen Martin
DateThu, 8 Dec 2005 16:35:44 +1300 (NZDT)
So that everyone has a fair chance to read and think about voting issues, I am going to close off
the agenda for new voting issues at high noon (or whenever I stagger back from the pub lunch) on
Friday.

The time for last minute additions to the voting issues is now, anything added on Saturday will
not be voted on at this meeting.

Cheers, Stephen.
- Agenda Dictator!


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