SubjectRe: [dq] RULEBOOK FIX - Weather chart in Air college
FromJonathan Bean - TME
DateTue, 20 Dec 2005 00:56:28 +1300
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I agree Andrew terms would be better in general but I was hoping we could
just go back to table 1.1 from 1.0 so we are not stuck with 13 feet of water
an hour.
Maybe we mighty get it sorted into terms and passed into the rules for the
next rulebook in 2008 if we all work hard on it ;-)

Jonathan Bean

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  From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On Behalf Of
Andrew Withy (DSL AK)
  Sent: Monday, 19 December 2005 3:13 p.m.
  To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
  Subject: Re: [dq] RULEBOOK FIX - Weather chart in Air college


  Converting most entries (0 to 5 mm per hour) to inches will give tiny or
silly fractions. Only storm conditions will have a number > 1/4 inch per
hour.

  There is flavour, and then playability. The terms "shower", "rain,
"torrential", etc can be used by characters, and the mm/hour figure used by
GMs to help any required water table calculations.

  Which reminds me - why do we need these figures at all?

  Andrew
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    From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] On Behalf Of
Martin Dickson
    Sent: Monday, 19 December 2005 2:38 p.m.
    To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
    Subject: Re: [dq] RULEBOOK FIX - Weather chart in Air college


    On 12/19/05, Stephen Martin <stephenm@castle.pointclark.net> wrote:
      If conversion is a hassle and makes for an unpleasnt table then how
about making the UOM 'drops'
      where a 'drop' is the standard unit for rainfall measurement.  25 and
a half drops (or 25.4
      according to pedantic philosophers) is equivalent to 1 inch per hour.

    Inches are traditionally subdivided into 3 barleycorns (not perhaps so
much use here) and also into 12 lines... making 1mm approx 1/2 a line...
:-)

    - Martin





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agree Andrew terms would be better in general but I was hoping we could =
just go=20
back to table 1.1 from 1.0 so we are not stuck with 13 feet of water an=20
hour.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D648545311-19122005><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Maybe=20
we mighty get it sorted into terms and passed into the rules for the =
next=20
rulebook in 2008 if we all work hard on it ;-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D648545311-19122005><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2>Jonathan Bean</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz=20
  [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Andrew Withy (DSL=20
  AK)<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, 19 December 2005 3:13 p.m.<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  dq@dq.sf.org.nz<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [dq] RULEBOOK FIX - Weather =
chart in=20
  Air college<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D544110902-19122005><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Converting most entries (0 to 5 mm&nbsp;per hour) to inches =
will give=20
  tiny or silly fractions. Only storm conditions will have a number &gt; =
1/4=20
  inch&nbsp;per hour.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D544110902-19122005><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D544110902-19122005><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>There is flavour, and then playability. The terms "shower", =
"rain,=20
  "torrential", etc can be used by characters, and the mm/hour figure =
used by=20
  GMs to help any required water table calculations.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D544110902-19122005><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D544110902-19122005><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Which reminds me - why do we need these figures at=20
  all?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D544110902-19122005><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D544110902-19122005><FONT face=3DArial =
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  size=3D2>Andrew</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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    face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
    dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] <B>On Behalf Of =

    </B>Martin Dickson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, 19 December 2005 2:38=20
    p.m.<BR><B>To:</B> dq@dq.sf.org.nz<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [dq] =
RULEBOOK FIX=20
    - Weather chart in Air college<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>On 12/19/05, <B=20
    class=3Dgmail_sendername>Stephen Martin</B> &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:stephenm@castle.pointclark.net">stephenm@castle.pointclark=
.net</A>&gt;=20
    wrote:=20
    <DIV><SPAN class=3Dgmail_quote></SPAN>
    <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20
    style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: =
rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">If=20
      conversion is a hassle and makes for an unpleasnt table then how =
about=20
      making the UOM 'drops'<BR>where a 'drop' is the standard unit for =
rainfall=20
      measurement.&nbsp;&nbsp;25 and a half drops (or 25.4<BR>according =
to=20
      pedantic philosophers) is equivalent to 1 inch per hour. =
</BLOCKQUOTE>
    <DIV><BR>Inches are traditionally subdivided into 3 barleycorns (not =
perhaps=20
    so much use here) and also into 12 lines... making 1mm approx 1/2 a=20
    line...&nbsp;&nbsp; :-)<BR><BR>-=20
Martin<BR></DIV><BR></DIV><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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SubjectRe: [dq] Null mana zones
FromJacqui Smith
DateTue, 20 Dec 2005 07:03:01 +1300
At 21:32 19/12/05, you wrote:
>As part of our adventure we went to find out where the nearest null mana / 
>no mana / dead mana zone is. Can anyone help us if they know off any such 
>zone on alusia please?

Try asking in character on the DQ pub list...

Jacqui


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SubjectRe: [dq] RULEBOOK FIX - Weather chart in Air college
FromAndrew\ Withy\ \(DSL\ AK\)
DateTue, 20 Dec 2005 08:30:08 +1300
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Can we have mm/hr for the C21 GMs as per table 1.1 and the existing
terms (also as per table 1.1), without a fractional inch conversion,
please.
=20
I'm actually agreeing with Jono - it just didn't look like it.
=20
Andrew

	-----Original Message-----
	From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] On
Behalf Of Jonathan Bean - TME
	Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2005 12:56 a.m.
	To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
	Subject: Re: [dq] RULEBOOK FIX - Weather chart in Air college
=09
=09
	=20
	I agree Andrew terms would be better in general but I was hoping
we could just go back to table 1.1 from 1.0 so we are not stuck with 13
feet of water an hour.
	Maybe we mighty get it sorted into terms and passed into the
rules for the next rulebook in 2008 if we all work hard on it ;-)
	=20
	Jonathan Bean
	=20

		-----Original Message-----
		From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz
[mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On Behalf Of Andrew Withy (DSL AK)
		Sent: Monday, 19 December 2005 3:13 p.m.
		To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
		Subject: Re: [dq] RULEBOOK FIX - Weather chart in Air
college
	=09
	=09
		Converting most entries (0 to 5 mm per hour) to inches
will give tiny or silly fractions. Only storm conditions will have a
number > 1/4 inch per hour.
		=20
		There is flavour, and then playability. The terms
"shower", "rain, "torrential", etc can be used by characters, and the
mm/hour figure used by GMs to help any required water table
calculations.
		=20
		Which reminds me - why do we need these figures at all?
		=20
		Andrew

			-----Original Message-----
			From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz
[mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] On Behalf Of Martin Dickson
			Sent: Monday, 19 December 2005 2:38 p.m.
			To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
			Subject: Re: [dq] RULEBOOK FIX - Weather chart
in Air college
		=09
		=09
			On 12/19/05, Stephen Martin
<stephenm@castle.pointclark.net> wrote:=20
		=09

				If conversion is a hassle and makes for
an unpleasnt table then how about making the UOM 'drops'
				where a 'drop' is the standard unit for
rainfall measurement.  25 and a half drops (or 25.4
				according to pedantic philosophers) is
equivalent to 1 inch per hour.=20


			Inches are traditionally subdivided into 3
barleycorns (not perhaps so much use here) and also into 12 lines...
making 1mm approx 1/2 a line...   :-)
		=09
			- Martin
		=09




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have mm/hr for the C21 GMs as per table 1.1 and the existing terms (also =
as per=20
table 1.1), without a fractional&nbsp;inch conversion,=20
please.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D310252819-19122005><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
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agreeing with Jono - it just didn't look like=20
it.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
  dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] <B>On Behalf Of=20
  </B>Jonathan Bean - TME<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, 20 December 2005 =
12:56=20
  a.m.<BR><B>To:</B> dq@dq.sf.org.nz<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [dq] =
RULEBOOK FIX -=20
  Weather chart in Air college<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D648545311-19122005></SPAN><SPAN=20
  class=3D648545311-19122005><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D648545311-19122005><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I=20
  agree Andrew terms would be better in general but I was hoping we =
could just=20
  go back to table 1.1 from 1.0 so we are not stuck with 13 feet of =
water an=20
  hour.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D648545311-19122005><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Maybe we mighty get it sorted into terms and passed into the =
rules for=20
  the next rulebook in 2008 if we all work hard on it =
;-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D648545311-19122005><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D648545311-19122005><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Jonathan Bean</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D648545311-19122005><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px =
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    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
    size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz=20
    [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Andrew Withy (DSL=20
    AK)<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, 19 December 2005 3:13 p.m.<BR><B>To:</B> =

    dq@dq.sf.org.nz<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [dq] RULEBOOK FIX - Weather =
chart in=20
    Air college<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D544110902-19122005><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>Converting most entries (0 to 5 mm&nbsp;per hour) to inches =
will give=20
    tiny or silly fractions. Only storm conditions will have a number =
&gt; 1/4=20
    inch&nbsp;per hour.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D544110902-19122005><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D544110902-19122005><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>There is flavour, and then playability. The terms "shower", =
"rain,=20
    "torrential", etc can be used by characters, and the mm/hour figure =
used by=20
    GMs to help any required water table =
calculations.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D544110902-19122005><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D544110902-19122005><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>Which reminds me - why do we need these figures at=20
    all?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D544110902-19122005><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D544110902-19122005><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>Andrew</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV></DIV>
      <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT=20
      face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
      dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] <B>On Behalf =
Of=20
      </B>Martin Dickson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, 19 December 2005 2:38=20
      p.m.<BR><B>To:</B> dq@dq.sf.org.nz<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [dq] =
RULEBOOK=20
      FIX - Weather chart in Air college<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>On =
12/19/05, <B=20
      class=3Dgmail_sendername>Stephen Martin</B> &lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:stephenm@castle.pointclark.net">stephenm@castle.pointclark=
.net</A>&gt;=20
      wrote:=20
      <DIV><SPAN class=3Dgmail_quote></SPAN>
      <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20
      style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; =
BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">If=20
        conversion is a hassle and makes for an unpleasnt table then how =
about=20
        making the UOM 'drops'<BR>where a 'drop' is the standard unit =
for=20
        rainfall measurement.&nbsp;&nbsp;25 and a half drops (or=20
        25.4<BR>according to pedantic philosophers) is equivalent to 1 =
inch per=20
        hour. </BLOCKQUOTE>
      <DIV><BR>Inches are traditionally subdivided into 3 barleycorns =
(not=20
      perhaps so much use here) and also into 12 lines... making 1mm =
approx 1/2=20
      a line...&nbsp;&nbsp; :-)<BR><BR>-=20
    =
Martin<BR></DIV><BR></DIV><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BO=
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SubjectRe: [dq] RULEBOOK FIX - Weather chart in Air college
FromErrol Cavit
DateTue, 20 Dec 2005 08:45:28 +1300
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I hadn't realised how ugly the inches figures were.
If those that think they add flavour can produce something that looks
presentable, then I'll consider including them.
 
I think the mm/hr could be useful to some players/GMs (more so than just
inches figures).
 
Cheers
Errol

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Withy (DSL AK) [mailto:AndrewW@datacom.co.nz]
Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2005 08:30
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: Re: [dq] RULEBOOK FIX - Weather chart in Air college


Can we have mm/hr for the C21 GMs as per table 1.1 and the existing terms
(also as per table 1.1), without a fractional inch conversion, please.
 
I'm actually agreeing with Jono - it just didn't look like it.
 
Andrew

-----Original Message-----
From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] On Behalf Of
Jonathan Bean - TME
Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2005 12:56 a.m.
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: Re: [dq] RULEBOOK FIX - Weather chart in Air college


 
I agree Andrew terms would be better in general but I was hoping we could
just go back to table 1.1 from 1.0 so we are not stuck with 13 feet of water
an hour.
Maybe we mighty get it sorted into terms and passed into the rules for the
next rulebook in 2008 if we all work hard on it ;-)
 
Jonathan Bean
 

-----Original Message-----
From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On Behalf Of
Andrew Withy (DSL AK)
Sent: Monday, 19 December 2005 3:13 p.m.
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: Re: [dq] RULEBOOK FIX - Weather chart in Air college


Converting most entries (0 to 5 mm per hour) to inches will give tiny or
silly fractions. Only storm conditions will have a number > 1/4 inch per
hour.
 
There is flavour, and then playability. The terms "shower", "rain,
"torrential", etc can be used by characters, and the mm/hour figure used by
GMs to help any required water table calculations.
 
Which reminds me - why do we need these figures at all?
 
Andrew

-----Original Message-----
From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] On Behalf Of
Martin Dickson
Sent: Monday, 19 December 2005 2:38 p.m.
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: Re: [dq] RULEBOOK FIX - Weather chart in Air college


On 12/19/05, Stephen Martin < stephenm@castle.pointclark.net
<mailto:stephenm@castle.pointclark.net> > wrote: 


If conversion is a hassle and makes for an unpleasnt table then how about
making the UOM 'drops'
where a 'drop' is the standard unit for rainfall measurement.  25 and a half
drops (or 25.4
according to pedantic philosophers) is equivalent to 1 inch per hour. 


Inches are traditionally subdivided into 3 barleycorns (not perhaps so much
use here) and also into 12 lines... making 1mm approx 1/2 a line...   :-)

- Martin





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<DIV><SPAN class=468364119-19122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I 
hadn't realised how ugly the inches figures were.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=468364119-19122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>If 
those that think they add flavour can produce something that looks presentable, 
then I'll consider including them.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=468364119-19122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=468364119-19122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I 
think the mm/hr could be useful to some players/GMs (more so than just inches 
figures).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=468364119-19122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=468364119-19122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Cheers</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=468364119-19122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Errol</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  [mailto:AndrewW@datacom.co.nz]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, 20 December 2005 
  08:30<BR><B>To:</B> dq@dq.sf.org.nz<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [dq] RULEBOOK FIX - 
  Weather chart in Air college<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=310252819-19122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Can 
  we have mm/hr for the C21 GMs as per table 1.1 and the existing terms (also as 
  per table 1.1), without a fractional&nbsp;inch conversion, 
  please.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=310252819-19122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=310252819-19122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2><SPAN class=310252819-19122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2>I'm actually agreeing with Jono - it just didn't look like 
  it.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=310252819-19122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=310252819-19122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2>Andrew</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT 
    face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
    dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] <B>On Behalf Of 
    </B>Jonathan Bean - TME<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, 20 December 2005 12:56 
    a.m.<BR><B>To:</B> dq@dq.sf.org.nz<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [dq] RULEBOOK FIX 
    - Weather chart in Air college<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=648545311-19122005></SPAN><SPAN 
    class=648545311-19122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=648545311-19122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I 
    agree Andrew terms would be better in general but I was hoping we could just 
    go back to table 1.1 from 1.0 so we are not stuck with 13 feet of water an 
    hour.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=648545311-19122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>Maybe we mighty get it sorted into terms and passed into the rules 
    for the next rulebook in 2008 if we all work hard on it 
    ;-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=648545311-19122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=648545311-19122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>Jonathan Bean</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=648545311-19122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr 
    style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
      size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz 
      [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Andrew Withy (DSL 
      AK)<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, 19 December 2005 3:13 p.m.<BR><B>To:</B> 
      dq@dq.sf.org.nz<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [dq] RULEBOOK FIX - Weather chart 
      in Air college<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=544110902-19122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
      size=2>Converting most entries (0 to 5 mm&nbsp;per hour) to inches will 
      give tiny or silly fractions. Only storm conditions will have a number 
      &gt; 1/4 inch&nbsp;per hour.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=544110902-19122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
      size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=544110902-19122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
      size=2>There is flavour, and then playability. The terms "shower", "rain, 
      "torrential", etc can be used by characters, and the mm/hour figure used 
      by GMs to help any required water table calculations.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=544110902-19122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
      size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=544110902-19122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
      size=2>Which reminds me - why do we need these figures at 
      all?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=544110902-19122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
      size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=544110902-19122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
      size=2>Andrew</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
        <DIV></DIV>
        <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT 
        face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
        dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] <B>On Behalf Of 
        </B>Martin Dickson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, 19 December 2005 2:38 
        p.m.<BR><B>To:</B> dq@dq.sf.org.nz<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [dq] RULEBOOK 
        FIX - Weather chart in Air college<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>On 12/19/05, <B 
        class=gmail_sendername>Stephen Martin</B> &lt;<A 
        href="mailto:stephenm@castle.pointclark.net">stephenm@castle.pointclark.net</A>&gt; 
        wrote: 
        <DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote></SPAN>
        <BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote 
        style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">If 
          conversion is a hassle and makes for an unpleasnt table then how about 
          making the UOM 'drops'<BR>where a 'drop' is the standard unit for 
          rainfall measurement.&nbsp;&nbsp;25 and a half drops (or 
          25.4<BR>according to pedantic philosophers) is equivalent to 1 inch 
          per hour. </BLOCKQUOTE>
        <DIV><BR>Inches are traditionally subdivided into 3 barleycorns (not 
        perhaps so much use here) and also into 12 lines... making 1mm approx 
        1/2 a line...&nbsp;&nbsp; :-)<BR><BR>- 
      Martin<BR></DIV><BR></DIV><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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SubjectRe: [dq] RULEBOOK FIX - Weather chart in Air college
FromClare Baldock
DateTue, 20 Dec 2005 08:48:32 +1300
On 20/12/2005, at 08:45, Errol Cavit wrote:

> I hadn't realised how ugly the inches figures were.
> If those that think they add flavour can produce something that looks 
> presentable, then I'll consider including them.
>  
> I think the mm/hr could be useful to some players/GMs (more so than 
> just inches figures).

Perhaps convert them to inches per day (1 mm/hr is approximately 1 inch 
/ day)

cheers,

clare


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SubjectRe: [dq] RULEBOOK FIX - Weather chart in Air college
FromErrol Cavit
DateTue, 20 Dec 2005 09:47:29 +1300
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> Subject: Re: [dq] RULEBOOK FIX - Weather chart in Air college
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Or change the heading to "mm/hr or inches/day"?

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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; On 20/12/2005, at 08:45, Errol Cavit =
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; I hadn't realised how ugly the inches =
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; If those that think they add flavour can =
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; presentable, then I'll consider including =
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; =A0</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; I think the mm/hr could be useful to some =
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; just inches figures).</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Perhaps convert them to inches per day (1 mm/hr =
is </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; approximately 1 inch </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; / day)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Or change the heading to &quot;mm/hr or =
inches/day&quot;?</FONT>
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SubjectRe: [dq] RULEBOOK FIX - Weather chart in Air college
FromJonathan Bean - TME
DateTue, 20 Dec 2005 09:46:45 +1300
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RE: [dq] RULEBOOK FIX - Weather chart in Air collegeI don’t mean to rain on
the parade with 13 feet of water...

Lets just put it in as the table that was voted on and fix it next time. I
was hoping for a quick move from a mistaken table 1.0 to table 1.1

I think both are good but I think 1.1 Weather table came with mm/hour and I
dont want to talk about forever.
I want to quickly get thru as per the 1.1 table without 13 feet of water and
then quickly get onto all the 'fix's to the rulebook' as you request them
Errol.

So table 1.1 is mm/hour so keep it that way and move on.
Fix it for next issue.

Jono


  -----Original Message-----
  From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On Behalf Of
Errol Cavit
  Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2005 9:47 a.m.
  To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
  Subject: Re: [dq] RULEBOOK FIX - Weather chart in Air college





  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On Behalf Of
  > Clare Baldock
  > Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2005 08:49
  > To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
  > Subject: Re: [dq] RULEBOOK FIX - Weather chart in Air college
  >
  >
  >
  > On 20/12/2005, at 08:45, Errol Cavit wrote:
  >
  > > I hadn't realised how ugly the inches figures were.
  > > If those that think they add flavour can produce something
  > that looks
  > > presentable, then I'll consider including them.
  > >
  > > I think the mm/hr could be useful to some players/GMs (more so than
  > > just inches figures).
  >
  > Perhaps convert them to inches per day (1 mm/hr is
  > approximately 1 inch
  > / day)
  >

  Or change the heading to "mm/hr or inches/day"?

  Errol

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  =
href=3D"mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz">mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz</A>]On=
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  Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2005 08:49</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; =
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  dq@dq.sf.org.nz</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; Subject: Re: [dq] =
RULEBOOK FIX -=20
  Weather chart in Air college</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; =
</FONT><BR><FONT=20
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  20/12/2005, at 08:45, Errol Cavit wrote:</FONT> <BR><FONT =
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inches=20
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they add=20
  flavour can produce something </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; that =
looks=20
  </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; &gt; presentable, then I'll consider =
including=20
  them.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; &gt; &nbsp;</FONT> <BR><FONT =
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  </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; &gt; just inches figures).</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
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SubjectRe: [dq] Master works
FromMandos Mitchinson
DateTue, 20 Dec 2005 10:12:51 +1300
> list is *way* incomplete -- I know cos I spent ages completing &
forwarding the form
> for SF (& a little for Hagan) & it's not there -- and that computer
has long since
> crashed so I doubt I have a copy.  Any interest in doing an updated
one to be
> maintinaed on the wiki?

Masterlist is on there and I guess it just needs to be updated :-)

Mandos
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SubjectRe: [dq] RULEBOOK FIX - Weather chart in Air college
Fromraro002@ec.auckland.ac.nz
DateTue, 20 Dec 2005 13:55:39 +1300
I'm with Jono on this one.

This was a SIMPLE change that didn't even require much thought.

The debate has whittered on about imperial measure and flavour, with asides into
arcane areas of avoirdupois measure and into worries about fractions.

Does anyone objects to table 1.1 being included in the damned rulebook (and just
forget about the bloody which measurement system is to be used)? If they don't,
can we just GET ON WITH IT.

Jesus.

Jim.

Quoting Jonathan Bean - TME <Jonathan@tme.co.nz>:

> RE: [dq] RULEBOOK FIX - Weather chart in Air collegeI don’t mean to rain on
> the parade with 13 feet of water...
>
> Lets just put it in as the table that was voted on and fix it next time. I
> was hoping for a quick move from a mistaken table 1.0 to table 1.1
>
> I think both are good but I think 1.1 Weather table came with mm/hour and I
> dont want to talk about forever.
> I want to quickly get thru as per the 1.1 table without 13 feet of water and
> then quickly get onto all the 'fix's to the rulebook' as you request them
> Errol.
>
> So table 1.1 is mm/hour so keep it that way and move on.
> Fix it for next issue.
>
> Jono
>
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On Behalf Of
> Errol Cavit
>   Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2005 9:47 a.m.
>   To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
>   Subject: Re: [dq] RULEBOOK FIX - Weather chart in Air college
>
>
>
>
>
>   > -----Original Message-----
>   > From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On Behalf Of
>   > Clare Baldock
>   > Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2005 08:49
>   > To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
>   > Subject: Re: [dq] RULEBOOK FIX - Weather chart in Air college
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > On 20/12/2005, at 08:45, Errol Cavit wrote:
>   >
>   > > I hadn't realised how ugly the inches figures were.
>   > > If those that think they add flavour can produce something
>   > that looks
>   > > presentable, then I'll consider including them.
>   > >
>   > > I think the mm/hr could be useful to some players/GMs (more so than
>   > > just inches figures).
>   >
>   > Perhaps convert them to inches per day (1 mm/hr is
>   > approximately 1 inch
>   > / day)
>   >
>
>   Or change the heading to "mm/hr or inches/day"?
>
>   Errol
>


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SubjectRe: [dq] RULEBOOK FIX - Weather chart in Air college
FromStruan Judd
DateTue, 20 Dec 2005 14:08:52 +1300
Include it!

TTFN, Struan

On 12/20/05, raro002@ec.auckland.ac.nz <raro002@ec.auckland.ac.nz> wrote:
> I'm with Jono on this one.
>
> This was a SIMPLE change that didn't even require much thought.
>
> The debate has whittered on about imperial measure and flavour, with asides into
> arcane areas of avoirdupois measure and into worries about fractions.
>
> Does anyone objects to table 1.1 being included in the damned rulebook (and just
> forget about the bloody which measurement system is to be used)? If they don't,
> can we just GET ON WITH IT.
>
> Jesus.
>
> Jim.
>
> Quoting Jonathan Bean - TME <Jonathan@tme.co.nz>:
>
> > RE: [dq] RULEBOOK FIX - Weather chart in Air collegeI don't mean to rain on
> > the parade with 13 feet of water...
> >
> > Lets just put it in as the table that was voted on and fix it next time. I
> > was hoping for a quick move from a mistaken table 1.0 to table 1.1
> >
> > I think both are good but I think 1.1 Weather table came with mm/hour and I
> > dont want to talk about forever.
> > I want to quickly get thru as per the 1.1 table without 13 feet of water and
> > then quickly get onto all the 'fix's to the rulebook' as you request them
> > Errol.
> >
> > So table 1.1 is mm/hour so keep it that way and move on.
> > Fix it for next issue.
> >
> > Jono
> >
> >
> >   -----Original Message-----
> >   From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On Behalf Of
> > Errol Cavit
> >   Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2005 9:47 a.m.
> >   To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
> >   Subject: Re: [dq] RULEBOOK FIX - Weather chart in Air college
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   > -----Original Message-----
> >   > From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On Behalf Of
> >   > Clare Baldock
> >   > Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2005 08:49
> >   > To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
> >   > Subject: Re: [dq] RULEBOOK FIX - Weather chart in Air college
> >   >
> >   >
> >   >
> >   > On 20/12/2005, at 08:45, Errol Cavit wrote:
> >   >
> >   > > I hadn't realised how ugly the inches figures were.
> >   > > If those that think they add flavour can produce something
> >   > that looks
> >   > > presentable, then I'll consider including them.
> >   > >
> >   > > I think the mm/hr could be useful to some players/GMs (more so than
> >   > > just inches figures).
> >   >
> >   > Perhaps convert them to inches per day (1 mm/hr is
> >   > approximately 1 inch
> >   > / day)
> >   >
> >
> >   Or change the heading to "mm/hr or inches/day"?
> >
> >   Errol
> >
>
>
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SubjectRe: [dq] RULEBOOK FIX - Weather chart in Air college
FromHelen Saggers
DateTue, 20 Dec 2005 15:00:28 +1300
1.1 should be there, put it there.
It got put in in mm, in the first place, maybe its because there is no nice
simple conversion.

Helen

From: Jim
> I'm with Jono on this one.
>
> This was a SIMPLE change that didn't even require much thought.
>
> The debate has whittered on about imperial measure and flavour, with
asides into
> arcane areas of avoirdupois measure and into worries about fractions.
>
> Does anyone objects to table 1.1 being included in the damned rulebook
(and just
> forget about the bloody which measurement system is to be used)? If they
don't,
> can we just GET ON WITH IT.
>
> Jesus.
>
> Jim.


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SubjectRe: [dq] RULEBOOK FIX - Weather chart in Air college
FromMartin Dickson
DateTue, 20 Dec 2005 14:58:23 +1300
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On 12/20/05, raro002@ec.auckland.ac.nz <raro002@ec.auckland.ac.nz> wrote:
>
> Does anyone objects to table 1.1 being included in the damned rulebook
> (and just
> forget about the bloody which measurement system is to be used)? If they
> don't,
> can we just GET ON WITH IT.


From reading back over the thread it appears that no-one is objecting to
version 1.1 of the table. There seems no debate over this -- it is a
non-issue, It should go ahead and be included.

Several  people have additionally asked that the metric measurements on it
are either changed to imperial (as consistent with the rest of the weights
and measures in the game), or that both metric and imperial appear.

So, either v1.1 goes in as is, or, if the editors have time and energy, it
gets its measurements seen to.

Either way the table is presumably in, and concern (and "shouting") seems
misplaced.

Cheers,
Martin

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On 12/20/05, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername"><a href=3D"mailto:raro002@ec.auc=
kland.ac.nz">raro002@ec.auckland.ac.nz</a></b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:raro00=
2@ec.auckland.ac.nz">raro002@ec.auckland.ac.nz</a>&gt; wrote:<div><span cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote">
</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rg=
b(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Does anyon=
e objects to table 1.1 being included in the damned rulebook (and just<br>f=
orget about the bloody which measurement system is to be used)? If they don=
't,
<br>can we just GET ON WITH IT.</blockquote><div><br>From reading back over=
 the thread it appears that no-one is objecting to version 1.1 of the table=
. There seems no debate over this -- it is a non-issue, It should go ahead =
and be included.
<br><br>Several&nbsp; people have additionally asked that the metric measur=
ements on it are either changed to imperial (as consistent with the rest of=
 the weights and measures in the game), or that both metric and imperial ap=
pear.
<br><br>So, either v1.1 goes in as is, or, if the editors have time and ene=
rgy, it gets its measurements seen to.<br><br>Either way the table is presu=
mably in, and concern (and &quot;shouting&quot;) seems misplaced.<br><br>
Cheers,<br>Martin<br></div></div><br>

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SubjectRe: [dq] RULEBOOK FIX - Weather chart in Air college
FromRPer 4eva
DateTue, 20 Dec 2005 16:57:23 +1300
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I'd really like the inclusion of metric. For all that the flavour is more
preserved with imperial whenever maths is needed imperial is awful.

Dylan


On 12/20/05, Martin Dickson <martin.dickson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 12/20/05, raro002@ec.auckland.ac.nz <raro002@ec.auckland.ac.nz> wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone objects to table 1.1 being included in the damned rulebook
> > (and just
> > forget about the bloody which measurement system is to be used)? If the=
y
> > don't,
> > can we just GET ON WITH IT.
>
>
> From reading back over the thread it appears that no-one is objecting to
> version 1.1 of the table. There seems no debate over this -- it is a
> non-issue, It should go ahead and be included.
>
> Several  people have additionally asked that the metric measurements on i=
t
> are either changed to imperial (as consistent with the rest of the weight=
s
> and measures in the game), or that both metric and imperial appear.
>
> So, either v1.1 goes in as is, or, if the editors have time and energy, i=
t
> gets its measurements seen to.
>
> Either way the table is presumably in, and concern (and "shouting") seems
> misplaced.
>
> Cheers,
> Martin
>
>
>

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<div>I'd really like the inclusion of metric. For all that the flavour is m=
ore preserved with imperial whenever maths is needed imperial is awful.</di=
v>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Dylan<br><br>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 12/20/05, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername"=
>Martin Dickson</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:martin.dickson@gmail.com">martin.=
dickson@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"><span class=3D"q">On 12/20/05, <=
b class=3D"gmail_sendername"><a onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window=
,event,this)" href=3D"mailto:raro002@ec.auckland.ac.nz" target=3D"_blank">
raro002@ec.auckland.ac.nz</a></b> &lt;<a onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLi=
nk(window,event,this)" href=3D"mailto:raro002@ec.auckland.ac.nz" target=3D"=
_blank">raro002@ec.auckland.ac.nz</a>&gt; wrote:</span>=20
<div><span class=3D"q"><span class=3D"gmail_quote"></span>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0=
pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Does anyone objects =
to table 1.1 being included in the damned rulebook (and just<br>forget abou=
t the bloody which measurement system is to be used)? If they don't,=20
<br>can we just GET ON WITH IT.</blockquote></span>
<div><br>From reading back over the thread it appears that no-one is object=
ing to version 1.1 of the table. There seems no debate over this -- it is a=
 non-issue, It should go ahead and be included. <br><br>Several&nbsp; peopl=
e have additionally asked that the metric measurements on it are either cha=
nged to imperial (as consistent with the rest of the weights and measures i=
n the game), or that both metric and imperial appear.=20
<br><br>So, either v1.1 goes in as is, or, if the editors have time and ene=
rgy, it gets its measurements seen to.<br><br>Either way the table is presu=
mably in, and concern (and &quot;shouting&quot;) seems misplaced.<br><br>
Cheers,<br>Martin<br>&nbsp;</div></div><br></blockquote></div><br>

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