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Does anyone know conclusivly if its possible to have two healers
regenerating you at once? Say one regrowing each arm. In theory this would
greatly cut down the time to regenerate someone missing large parts of ther=
e
body.

Dylan

P.S. This isn't just a random question. A fellow adventurer of mine lost
about as much of his body as its possible to lose and still be ressurected.
He's going to be out for ages if we can't find a way to speed it up.

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You know as well as I do that the meaningless whittering on would go on and on
and on, and all over a particular degree of measure or if fractions were too
hard to think about and all the other minor crap that this was about.

Soon, it would have become a major rulebook issue that wouldn't have been able
to be changed until the next rulebook comes out, and all because everyone
wanted to discuss trivial points too valueless to be believed.

Yes, I agree, most people were in agreement. But, they were not clear that they
were in agreement, and they were talking crap about the most unimportant
drivel,  in such a way as to make it appear that they thought it was important.

I don't mind the sort of side comment that goes off onto a tangent and discusses
things which might or might not be useful, but this was a very simple issue,
made more complicated by everyone chipping their two penn'orth, all of them
agreeing, and none of them contributing anything very valuable. Not everything
has to be, I agree, but this was discussion just for the sake of talking about
something.

And, as a response to shouting, Struan and a few others started to look at the
issue and declare their position in a way that is direct enough so that the
person charged with keeping a track of this kind of detail can work out what is
required.

So, no, Martin, I don't think it was misplaced at all. I think it was well past
time.

Jim

Quoting Martin Dickson <martin.dickson@gmail.com>:

> On 12/20/05, raro002@ec.auckland.ac.nz <raro002@ec.auckland.ac.nz> wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone objects to table 1.1 being included in the damned rulebook
> > (and just
> > forget about the bloody which measurement system is to be used)? If they
> > don't,
> > can we just GET ON WITH IT.
>
>
> From reading back over the thread it appears that no-one is objecting to
> version 1.1 of the table. There seems no debate over this -- it is a
> non-issue, It should go ahead and be included.
>
> Several  people have additionally asked that the metric measurements on it
> are either changed to imperial (as consistent with the rest of the weights
> and measures in the game), or that both metric and imperial appear.
>
> So, either v1.1 goes in as is, or, if the editors have time and energy, it
> gets its measurements seen to.
>
> Either way the table is presumably in, and concern (and "shouting") seems
> misplaced.
>
> Cheers,
> Martin
>


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Please ignore this rant. I meant to send this directly to Martin, and failed the
IQ test.

My apologies.

Jim.


Quoting raro002@ec.auckland.ac.nz:

> You know as well as I do that the meaningless whittering on would go on and
> on
> and on, and all over a particular degree of measure or if fractions were too
> hard to think about and all the other minor crap that this was about.
>
> Soon, it would have become a major rulebook issue that wouldn't have been
> able
> to be changed until the next rulebook comes out, and all because everyone
> wanted to discuss trivial points too valueless to be believed.
>
> Yes, I agree, most people were in agreement. But, they were not clear that
> they
> were in agreement, and they were talking crap about the most unimportant
> drivel,  in such a way as to make it appear that they thought it was
> important.
>
> I don't mind the sort of side comment that goes off onto a tangent and
> discusses
> things which might or might not be useful, but this was a very simple issue,
> made more complicated by everyone chipping their two penn'orth, all of them
> agreeing, and none of them contributing anything very valuable. Not
> everything
> has to be, I agree, but this was discussion just for the sake of talking
> about
> something.
>
> And, as a response to shouting, Struan and a few others started to look at
> the
> issue and declare their position in a way that is direct enough so that the
> person charged with keeping a track of this kind of detail can work out what
> is
> required.
>
> So, no, Martin, I don't think it was misplaced at all. I think it was well
> past
> time.
>
> Jim
>
> Quoting Martin Dickson <martin.dickson@gmail.com>:
>
> > On 12/20/05, raro002@ec.auckland.ac.nz <raro002@ec.auckland.ac.nz> wrote:
> > >
> > > Does anyone objects to table 1.1 being included in the damned rulebook
> > > (and just
> > > forget about the bloody which measurement system is to be used)? If they
> > > don't,
> > > can we just GET ON WITH IT.
> >
> >
> > From reading back over the thread it appears that no-one is objecting to
> > version 1.1 of the table. There seems no debate over this -- it is a
> > non-issue, It should go ahead and be included.
> >
> > Several  people have additionally asked that the metric measurements on it
> > are either changed to imperial (as consistent with the rest of the weights
> > and measures in the game), or that both metric and imperial appear.
> >
> > So, either v1.1 goes in as is, or, if the editors have time and energy, it
> > gets its measurements seen to.
> >
> > Either way the table is presumably in, and concern (and "shouting") seems
> > misplaced.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Martin
> >
>
>
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>Does anyone know conclusivly if its possible to have two healers 
>regenerating you at once? Say one regrowing each arm. In theory this 
>would greatly cut down the time to regenerate someone missing large 
>parts of there body.
>
>Dylan
>
>P.S. This isn't just a random question. A fellow adventurer of mine 
>lost about as much of his body as its possible to lose and still be 
>ressurected. He's going to be out for ages if we can't find a way to 
>speed it up.

We had a situation in the last session where a party me3mber had both 
shoulders shattered. So, myself and another healer were regenerating 
a shoulder each.

So I'd say yes, as long as the two healers are not working on the same arm.

Keith


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>1.1 should be there, put it there.
>It got put in in mm, in the first place, maybe its because there is no nice
>simple conversion.

I quite agree ... let's get it in there as it should be there. GMs 
can sort out their own conversions if they need to.

Keith


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> Does anyone know conclusivly if its possible to have two healers
regenerating
> you at once? Say one regrowing each arm. In theory this would greatly
cut 
> down the time to regenerate someone missing large parts of there body.


I would presume as many healers as the GM will allow can work on the
body. That's what GM's are for to tell you what can and cannot happen.
While I would say in general multiple healers can work on the same body
there are too many factors to have a defined rule on this and so your GM
will be able to tell you how things work in this specific instance. 

Mandos
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>What level can a healer effect teeth? I was thinking maybe in 15th 
>centuary science teeth were just bones but I wondered if this is 
>normaly accepted. If not what level should I be to fix crooked teeth 
>or chipped teeth or even heavily decayed teeth? I assume regrowing 
>teeth is probably covered by regeneration. Anyway I'm curious for 
>any and all knowledge about what healer ranks do dentistry.

OK - consider what it is you're trying to achieve then see if you can 
find something close to fit.

Soothe the toothache - easy enough - Rank 2 Soothe pain.

Fixing a small chip - Rank 6 - Repair Bones

Cavities - I'd go for Rank 7 - especially if it's a big one, as 
you're repairing the enamel and the tissue inside it. Realigning 
would also be Rank 7.

However, if they're that badly decayed, use a mallet to knock them 
out and regenerate. Rank 9 should be enough to regenerate a tooth. 
Remember the core is alive with blood and nerves - which would be the 
same for a limb.

That's how I'd call it anyway.

Hmmm ... dentisty - a sideline for Phaeton.

Keith


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> OK - consider what it is you're trying to achieve then see if you can 
> find something close to fit.
> 
> Soothe the toothache - easy enough - Rank 2 Soothe pain.
> 
> Fixing a small chip - Rank 6 - Repair Bones
> 
> Cavities - I'd go for Rank 7 - especially if it's a big one, as 
> you're repairing the enamel and the tissue inside it. Realigning 
> would also be Rank 7.
> 
> However, if they're that badly decayed, use a mallet to knock them 
> out and regenerate. Rank 9 should be enough to regenerate a tooth. 
> Remember the core is alive with blood and nerves - which would be the 
> same for a limb.
> 
> That's how I'd call it anyway.


Don't forget, 

Rank 3 Orator to counsel against the eating of sweets. 
Rank 1 Assassin/Rank 2 Artisan Torturer, to ensure the dentistry hurts. 
Rank 8 Merchant to gouge the wallet as much as possible.

Plus 1 assistant called Gladys to hold tools and help the patient spit. 

Mandos
/s


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Thanks everyone, I think that's given everyone a clear opportunity to see
those issues. I'm still open to comments for now, and will be looking at my
email most days.
 
Please resume your other discussions.
 
Cheers
Errol

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Hi everyone.
 
Could we please hold off on non-rulebook issues for a day or two until a
couple of things impacting the rulebook (brought up in the last week) are
addressed?
 
There is a limit to the number of emails most people are prepared to read
per day. I need the list's input on a couple of things if we are to avoid
problems later on. So please hold off on the topics that have generated 300+
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=307230410-18122005>Hi 
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
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Come on Jim what do you really mean, I'm sure if you try harder you can get
it off your chest, don't mix words spit it out man....

lol

Poor Martin ;-/

Jono

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On Behalf Of
> raro002@ec.auckland.ac.nz
> Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2005 2:09 a.m.
> To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
> Subject: Re: [dq] RULEBOOK FIX - Weather chart in Air college
>
>
> Please ignore this rant. I meant to send this directly to Martin,
> and failed the
> IQ test.
>
> My apologies.
>
> Jim.
>
>
> Quoting raro002@ec.auckland.ac.nz:
>
> > You know as well as I do that the meaningless whittering on
> would go on and
> > on
> > and on, and all over a particular degree of measure or if
> fractions were too
> > hard to think about and all the other minor crap that this was about.
> >
> > Soon, it would have become a major rulebook issue that wouldn't
> have been
> > able
> > to be changed until the next rulebook comes out, and all
> because everyone
> > wanted to discuss trivial points too valueless to be believed.
> >
> > Yes, I agree, most people were in agreement. But, they were not
> clear that
> > they
> > were in agreement, and they were talking crap about the most unimportant
> > drivel,  in such a way as to make it appear that they thought it was
> > important.
> >
> > I don't mind the sort of side comment that goes off onto a tangent and
> > discusses
> > things which might or might not be useful, but this was a very
> simple issue,
> > made more complicated by everyone chipping their two penn'orth,
> all of them
> > agreeing, and none of them contributing anything very valuable. Not
> > everything
> > has to be, I agree, but this was discussion just for the sake of talking
> > about
> > something.
> >
> > And, as a response to shouting, Struan and a few others started
> to look at
> > the
> > issue and declare their position in a way that is direct enough
> so that the
> > person charged with keeping a track of this kind of detail can
> work out what
> > is
> > required.
> >
> > So, no, Martin, I don't think it was misplaced at all. I think
> it was well
> > past
> > time.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > Quoting Martin Dickson <martin.dickson@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > On 12/20/05, raro002@ec.auckland.ac.nz
> <raro002@ec.auckland.ac.nz> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone objects to table 1.1 being included in the
> damned rulebook
> > > > (and just
> > > > forget about the bloody which measurement system is to be
> used)? If they
> > > > don't,
> > > > can we just GET ON WITH IT.
> > >
> > >
> > > From reading back over the thread it appears that no-one is
> objecting to
> > > version 1.1 of the table. There seems no debate over this -- it is a
> > > non-issue, It should go ahead and be included.
> > >
> > > Several  people have additionally asked that the metric
> measurements on it
> > > are either changed to imperial (as consistent with the rest
> of the weights
> > > and measures in the game), or that both metric and imperial appear.
> > >
> > > So, either v1.1 goes in as is, or, if the editors have time
> and energy, it
> > > gets its measurements seen to.
> > >
> > > Either way the table is presumably in, and concern (and
> "shouting") seems
> > > misplaced.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Martin
> > >
> >
> >
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Hi all,

I think you should ask your GM directly (thats me) regarding the two
healers, as you are asking about a game that is currently running, and not
about the rules in general.
Fine effort for asking, but details on the events in my game can be asked of
me.

When I said you are all welcome to ask on the DQ Mailing list regarding who
and what rank of PC healers is at the guild and if they are willing to
fix/heal your party member I was talking about that. Other matters like the
detail you should direct in my direction.

Kind regards,

Jonathan Bean


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RPer 4eva
  Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2005 1:13 a.m.
  To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
  Subject: [dq] healing


  Does anyone know conclusivly if its possible to have two healers
regenerating you at once? Say one regrowing each arm. In theory this would
greatly cut down the time to regenerate someone missing large parts of there
body.

  Dylan

  P.S. This isn't just a random question. A fellow adventurer of mine lost
about as much of his body as its possible to lose and still be ressurected.
He's going to be out for ages if we can't find a way to speed it up.

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Also Dylan use the DQ pub list for in game stuff.  This list is 'rules' /
'collective game world' posts only. 

 

Your questions seems to be enquiring information from other guild healers,
thus is an in game question. 

 

Hamish

 

 

 

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From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] On Behalf Of
Jonathan Bean - TME
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 10:03 AM
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: Re: [dq] healing

 

Hi all,

 

I think you should ask your GM directly (thats me) regarding the two
healers, as you are asking about a game that is currently running, and not
about the rules in general.

Fine effort for asking, but details on the events in my game can be asked of
me.

 

When I said you are all welcome to ask on the DQ Mailing list regarding who
and what rank of PC healers is at the guild and if they are willing to
fix/heal your party member I was talking about that. Other matters like the
detail you should direct in my direction.

 

Kind regards,

 

Jonathan Bean

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On Behalf Of RPer
4eva
Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2005 1:13 a.m.
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: [dq] healing

Does anyone know conclusivly if its possible to have two healers
regenerating you at once? Say one regrowing each arm. In theory this would
greatly cut down the time to regenerate someone missing large parts of there
body. 

 

Dylan

 

P.S. This isn't just a random question. A fellow adventurer of mine lost
about as much of his body as its possible to lose and still be ressurected.
He's going to be out for ages if we can't find a way to speed it up. 


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dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] <b><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I think you should&nbsp;ask your GM
directly (thats me) regarding the two healers, as you are asking about a =
game
that is currently running, and not about the rules in =
general.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
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ask on
the DQ Mailing list regarding who and what rank of PC healers is&nbsp;at =
the
guild and if they are willing to fix/heal your party member I was =
talking about
that. Other matters like the detail you should direct in my =
direction.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
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face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> =
dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz
[mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On =
Behalf Of </span></b>RPer
4eva<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 21 =
December 2005
1:13 a.m.<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">dq@dq.sf.org.nz</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [dq] =
healing</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Does anyone know conclusivly if its possible to have two healers
regenerating you at once? Say one regrowing each arm. In theory this =
would
greatly cut down the time to regenerate someone missing large parts of =
there
body. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>P.S. This isn't just a random question. A fellow adventurer of =
mine
lost about as much of his body as its possible to lose and still be
ressurected. He's going to be out for ages if we can't find a way to =
speed it
up. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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whats a phone number i can get you on?

Jono
  -----Original Message-----
  From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On Behalf Of
Johanna and Hamish
  Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2005 10:36 a.m.
  To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
  Subject: Re: [dq] healing


  Also Dylan use the DQ pub list for in game stuff.  This list is 'rules' /
'collective game world' posts only.



  Your questions seems to be enquiring information from other guild healers,
thus is an in game question.



  Hamish







  Hamish Brown

  Director



  Zenergy

  Whole People Co-operating in a Sustainable world

  119 Mt Eden Rd,

  Auckland

  www.zenergyglobal.com




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  From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] On Behalf Of
Jonathan Bean - TME
  Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 10:03 AM
  To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
  Subject: Re: [dq] healing



  Hi all,



  I think you should ask your GM directly (thats me) regarding the two
healers, as you are asking about a game that is currently running, and not
about the rules in general.

  Fine effort for asking, but details on the events in my game can be asked
of me.



  When I said you are all welcome to ask on the DQ Mailing list regarding
who and what rank of PC healers is at the guild and if they are willing to
fix/heal your party member I was talking about that. Other matters like the
detail you should direct in my direction.



  Kind regards,



  Jonathan Bean





    -----Original Message-----
    From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On Behalf Of
RPer 4eva
    Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2005 1:13 a.m.
    To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
    Subject: [dq] healing

    Does anyone know conclusivly if its possible to have two healers
regenerating you at once? Say one regrowing each arm. In theory this would
greatly cut down the time to regenerate someone missing large parts of there
body.



    Dylan



    P.S. This isn't just a random question. A fellow adventurer of mine lost
about as much of his body as its possible to lose and still be ressurected.
He's going to be out for ages if we can't find a way to speed it up.

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  Hamish<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, 21 December 2005 10:36 =
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  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Also Dylan =
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doh - sorry all.

Jono
  -----Original Message-----
  From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On Behalf Of
Jonathan Bean - TME
  Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2005 11:32 a.m.
  To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
  Subject: Re: [dq] healing


  whats a phone number i can get you on?

  Jono
    -----Original Message-----
    From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On Behalf Of
Johanna and Hamish
    Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2005 10:36 a.m.
    To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
    Subject: Re: [dq] healing


    Also Dylan use the DQ pub list for in game stuff.  This list is 'rules'
/ 'collective game world' posts only.



    Your questions seems to be enquiring information from other guild
healers, thus is an in game question.



    Hamish







    Hamish Brown

    Director



    Zenergy

    Whole People Co-operating in a Sustainable world

    119 Mt Eden Rd,

    Auckland

    www.zenergyglobal.com




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    From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] On Behalf Of
Jonathan Bean - TME
    Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 10:03 AM
    To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
    Subject: Re: [dq] healing



    Hi all,



    I think you should ask your GM directly (thats me) regarding the two
healers, as you are asking about a game that is currently running, and not
about the rules in general.

    Fine effort for asking, but details on the events in my game can be
asked of me.



    When I said you are all welcome to ask on the DQ Mailing list regarding
who and what rank of PC healers is at the guild and if they are willing to
fix/heal your party member I was talking about that. Other matters like the
detail you should direct in my direction.



    Kind regards,



    Jonathan Bean





      -----Original Message-----
      From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On Behalf Of
RPer 4eva
      Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2005 1:13 a.m.
      To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
      Subject: [dq] healing

      Does anyone know conclusivly if its possible to have two healers
regenerating you at once? Say one regrowing each arm. In theory this would
greatly cut down the time to regenerate someone missing large parts of there
body.



      Dylan



      P.S. This isn't just a random question. A fellow adventurer of mine
lost about as much of his body as its possible to lose and still be
ressurected. He's going to be out for ages if we can't find a way to speed
it up.

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D447423322-20122005><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
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sorry all.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D447423322-20122005><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz=20
  [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Jonathan Bean -=20
  TME<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, 21 December 2005 11:32 =
a.m.<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  dq@dq.sf.org.nz<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [dq] =
healing<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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    Hamish<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, 21 December 2005 10:36 =
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The calendars on the Wiki do not appear to have the key as to which moon
symbol is which. Could someone let me know whats what and I will go an
add it. Or the person who knows could add it :-)

Mandos
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I was always under the impression that Artisan skills did not require a
Masterwork to advance above 8. However I cannot find any rule that
supports that. 

Are they required? Or are Artisan skills like Adventuring skills and
have an excemption?

Mandos
/s


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3 points:

1: Did you have any particular logic behind this thought, or was it just one
of those things that you 'know' (like many of us 'knew' about needing to
complete a rank's ranking within 6 months.) I didn't see any 'realism'
requirement for an exemption, is there a game reason?

2: Where is the adventuring skill exemption, because I can't find it. (it
clearly should be there somewhere IMO, probably in more places.) It's in the
old Player's Guide.

3: Is there something missing at the end of Swimming?
"Benefits of Rank
A trained swimmer receives certain combat abilities
as they rise in rank."
==end section==

Cheers
Errol

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On Behalf Of
> Mandos Mitchinson
> Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2005 14:54
> To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
> Subject: [dq] Artisan Skills
> 
> 
> I was always under the impression that Artisan skills did not 
> require a
> Masterwork to advance above 8. However I cannot find any rule that
> supports that. 
> 
> Are they required? Or are Artisan skills like Adventuring skills and
> have an excemption?
> 
> Mandos
> /s
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thought, or was it just one of those things that you 'know' (like many =
of us 'knew' about needing to complete a rank's ranking within 6 =
months.) I didn't see any 'realism' requirement for an exemption, is =
there a game reason?</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>2: Where is the adventuring skill exemption, because =
I can't find it. (it clearly should be there somewhere IMO, probably in =
more places.) It's in the old Player's Guide.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>3: Is there something missing at the end of =
Swimming?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&quot;Benefits of Rank</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>A trained swimmer receives certain combat =
abilities</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>as they rise in rank.&quot;</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cheers</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Errol</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz">mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz</A>]O=
n Behalf Of</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Mandos Mitchinson</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2005 14:54</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Subject: [dq] Artisan Skills</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; I was always under the impression that Artisan =
skills did not </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; require a</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Masterwork to advance above 8. However I cannot =
find any rule that</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; supports that. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Are they required? Or are Artisan skills like =
Adventuring skills and</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; have an excemption?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Mandos</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; /s</FONT>
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Since the idea of "masterworks" has come out of the apprentice / journeyman
/ master structure of medieval and later trades, masterworks are very
appropriate for Artisan skills... perhaps even more appropriate than for
say, Ranger, or Warrior, or some other skills.

On the flip-side, and from a game pov, they are more character interest
skills than hard adventuring ones, and the masterworks for them should not
be overly onerous.

So, my opinion, yes there should be Artisan masterworks, but the standard /
bar for these could be a bit lower than for other skills.

Cheers,
Martin

On 12/21/05, Mandos Mitchinson <MandosM@adhb.govt.nz> wrote:
>
> I was always under the impression that Artisan skills did not require a
> Masterwork...
>
> Are they required? Or are Artisan skills like Adventuring skills and
> have an excemption?
>

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Since the idea of &quot;masterworks&quot; has come out of the apprentice / =
journeyman / master structure of medieval and later trades, masterworks are=
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for say, Ranger, or Warrior, or some other skills.
<br><br>On the flip-side, and from a game pov, they are more character inte=
rest skills than hard adventuring ones, and the masterworks for them should=
 not be overly onerous.<br><br>So, my opinion, yes there should be Artisan =
masterworks, but the standard / bar for these could be a bit lower than for=
 other skills.
<br><br>Cheers,<br>Martin<br><br><div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 12/21/=
05, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">Mandos Mitchinson</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:MandosM@adhb.govt.nz">MandosM@adhb.govt.nz</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockqu=
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I was always under the impression that Artisan skills did not require a<br>=
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> 3 points: 
> 1: Did you have any particular logic behind this thought, or was it
just one of 
> those things that you 'know' (like  many of us 'knew' about needing to
complete
> a rank's ranking within 6 months.) I didn't see any 'realism'
requirement for
> an exemption, is there a game reason?

Nope Just knew it in the same way all of our unwritten rules are well
unwritten and not consistant. Hence the query. 

> 2: Where is the adventuring skill exemption, because I can't find it.
(it clearly
> should be there somewhere IMO, probably in more places.) It's in the
old Player's Guide.

Players guide :)

> 3: Is there something missing at the end of Swimming? 
> "Benefits of Rank 
> A trained swimmer receives certain combat abilities 
> as they rise in rank." 

Not part of my question :0)

Mandos
/s


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Was about to write something similar.
I have always believed Artisan skills to require masterworks but it is just a matter of coming up
with something original and/or significant for your skill.  Usually out of game actions are fine
and a quick sanity check with your next GM.

E.g. A painter might take a week or two of game time to paint a mural on the guild wall
demonstrating our heroic endeavours against the dark circle.

Cheers, Stephen.

Martin Dickson said:
> Since the idea of "masterworks" has come out of the apprentice / journeyman / master structure
> of medieval and later trades, masterworks are very appropriate for Artisan skills... perhaps
> even more appropriate than for say, Ranger, or Warrior, or some other skills.
>
> On the flip-side, and from a game pov, they are more character interest skills than hard
> adventuring ones, and the masterworks for them should not be overly onerous.
>
> So, my opinion, yes there should be Artisan masterworks, but the standard / bar for these could
> be a bit lower than for other skills.
>
> Cheers,
> Martin
>
> On 12/21/05, Mandos Mitchinson <MandosM@adhb.govt.nz> wrote:
>>
>> I was always under the impression that Artisan skills did not require a Masterwork...
>>
>> Are they required? Or are Artisan skills like Adventuring skills and have an excemption?


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Seems right to me. The rule on Rank 8+ is nice and vague, just what is
wanted to cover the wide range of circumstances:

6.Ranking
Skill ranks 8, 9, and 10 must be ratified by a
GM and in general required significant use of the
skill.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Martin [mailto:stephenm@castle.pointclark.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2005 15:51
> To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
> Subject: Re: [dq] Artisan Skills
> 
> 
> Was about to write something similar.
> I have always believed Artisan skills to require masterworks 
> but it is just a matter of coming up
> with something original and/or significant for your skill.  
> Usually out of game actions are fine
> and a quick sanity check with your next GM.
> 
> E.g. A painter might take a week or two of game time to paint 
> a mural on the guild wall
> demonstrating our heroic endeavours against the dark circle.
> 
> Cheers, Stephen.
> 
> Martin Dickson said:
> > Since the idea of "masterworks" has come out of the 
> apprentice / journeyman / master structure
> > of medieval and later trades, masterworks are very 
> appropriate for Artisan skills... perhaps
> > even more appropriate than for say, Ranger, or Warrior, or 
> some other skills.
> >
> > On the flip-side, and from a game pov, they are more 
> character interest skills than hard
> > adventuring ones, and the masterworks for them should not 
> be overly onerous.
> >
> > So, my opinion, yes there should be Artisan masterworks, 
> but the standard / bar for these could
> > be a bit lower than for other skills.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Martin
> >
> > On 12/21/05, Mandos Mitchinson <MandosM@adhb.govt.nz> wrote:
> >>
> >> I was always under the impression that Artisan skills did 
> not require a Masterwork...
> >>
> >> Are they required? Or are Artisan skills like Adventuring 
> skills and have an excemption?
> 
> 
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Seems right to me. The rule on Rank 8+ is nice and =
vague, just what is wanted to cover the wide range of =
circumstances:</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>6.Ranking</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Skill ranks 8, 9, and 10 must be ratified by =
a</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>GM and in general required significant use of =
the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>skill.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; From: Stephen Martin [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:stephenm@castle.pointclark.net">mailto:stephenm@castle.po=
intclark.net</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2005 15:51</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Subject: Re: [dq] Artisan Skills</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Was about to write something similar.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; I have always believed Artisan skills to =
require masterworks </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; but it is just a matter of coming up</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; with something original and/or significant for =
your skill.&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Usually out of game actions are fine</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; and a quick sanity check with your next =
GM.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; E.g. A painter might take a week or two of game =
time to paint </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; a mural on the guild wall</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; demonstrating our heroic endeavours against the =
dark circle.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Cheers, Stephen.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Martin Dickson said:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Since the idea of &quot;masterworks&quot; =
has come out of the </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; apprentice / journeyman / master =
structure</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; of medieval and later trades, masterworks =
are very </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; appropriate for Artisan skills... =
perhaps</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; even more appropriate than for say, =
Ranger, or Warrior, or </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; some other skills.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; On the flip-side, and from a game pov, =
they are more </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; character interest skills than hard</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; adventuring ones, and the masterworks for =
them should not </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; be overly onerous.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; So, my opinion, yes there should be =
Artisan masterworks, </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; but the standard / bar for these could</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; be a bit lower than for other =
skills.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Cheers,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Martin</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; On 12/21/05, Mandos Mitchinson =
&lt;MandosM@adhb.govt.nz&gt; wrote:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;&gt; I was always under the impression that =
Artisan skills did </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; not require a Masterwork...</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;&gt; Are they required? Or are Artisan =
skills like Adventuring </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; skills and have an excemption?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
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Doh. Sorry about this all. Guess I should have put a little more thought
into it. I was just overly excited about an idea that might cut down the
time he was unavailable to adventure. As soon as I saw the posts saying I
should have asked my GM directly I realised they were indeed right.

Dylan


On 12/21/05, Jonathan Bean - TME <Jonathan@tme.co.nz> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I think you should ask your GM directly (thats me) regarding the two
> healers, as you are asking about a game that is currently running, and no=
t
> about the rules in general.
> Fine effort for asking, but details on the events in my game can be asked
> of me.
>
> When I said you are all welcome to ask on the DQ Mailing list regarding
> who and what rank of PC healers is at the guild and if they are willing t=
o
> fix/heal your party member I was talking about that. Other matters like t=
he
> detail you should direct in my direction.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Jonathan Bean
>

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<div>Doh. Sorry about this all. Guess I should have put a little more thoug=
ht into it. I was just overly excited about an idea that might cut down the=
 time he was unavailable to adventure. As soon as I saw the posts saying I =
should have asked my GM directly I realised they were indeed right.
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Dylan<br><br>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 12/21/05, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername"=
>Jonathan Bean - TME</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Jonathan@tme.co.nz">Jonathan=
@tme.co.nz</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<div><span><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2">Hi all,</font>=
</span></div>
<div><span><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"></font></span>=
&nbsp;</div>
<div><span><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2">I think you sh=
ould&nbsp;ask your GM directly (thats me) regarding the two healers, as you=
 are asking about a game that is currently running, and not about the rules=
 in general.
</font></span></div>
<div><span></span><span><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><=
span><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2">Fine effort for aski=
ng, but details on the events in my game can be asked of me.</font></span><=
/font></span>
</div>
<div><span></span><span><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"><=
/font></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2">When I said yo=
u are all welcome to ask on the DQ Mailing list regarding who and what rank=
 of PC healers is&nbsp;at the guild and if they are willing to fix/heal you=
r party member I was talking about that. Other matters like the detail you =
should direct in my direction.
</font></span></div>
<div><span><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"></font></span>=
&nbsp;</div>
<div><span><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2">Kind regards,<=
/font></span></div><span class=3D"sg">
<div><span></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2">Jonathan Bean<=
/font></span></div></span></blockquote></div>

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