SubjectRe: [dq] Black hat poll
FromMartin Dickson
DateMon, 10 Apr 2006 08:28:23 +1200
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On 4/9/06, William Dymock <dworkin@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
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> Who actually in the guild is a black hat and active?


Self-professed? Or will popular vote suffice?

Also how black a hat?   Do they have to consort with demons, possess summer
homes in hell, bear infernal offspring, and despoil angelic beings, or do
casual killers qualify?

Cheers,
Martin

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nbsp; Do they have to consort with demons, possess summer homes in hell, be=
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<br><br>Cheers,<br>Martin<br></div></div><br>

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SubjectRe: [dq] Black hat poll
FromJonathan Bean - TME
DateMon, 10 Apr 2006 08:43:16 +1200
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How about anyone with a Hat - that is pritty clear line.

I have Lath who is pacted and active.

Jono
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  To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
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  On 4/9/06, William Dymock <dworkin@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
    Who actually in the guild is a black hat and active?

  Self-professed? Or will popular vote suffice?

  Also how black a hat?   Do they have to consort with demons, possess
summer homes in hell, bear infernal offspring, and despoil angelic beings,
or do casual killers qualify?

  Cheers,
  Martin



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SubjectRe: [dq] Black hat poll
FromMandos Mitchinson
DateMon, 10 Apr 2006 08:51:29 +1200
> Who actually in the guild is a black hat and active?

I would consider it more of a smudgy grey hat, but Dramus is Pacted and
active. 

Mandos
/s


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Subject[dq] Scribe Note Library and the Wiki
FromKeith Smith
DateMon, 10 Apr 2006 09:06:28 +1200
I've been adding the links from the Library site to completed scribe 
notes in the Wiki (they're listed in green).  Going into the Wiki is 
not a problem but, using the browser's back button to get back to the 
library site causes a 'bounce back;' to the Wiki.

I believe this is caused by an invisible page stop on the way in, 
probably for security reasons, so to get back, you have to go back 
two hops. On Firefox, this is done by the pulldown arrow next to the 
back arrow and selecting the second most recent page visited. I 
presume IE has a similar mechanism.

Keith


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SubjectRe: [dq] Scribe Note Library and the Wiki
FromStephen Martin
DateMon, 10 Apr 2006 09:27:21 +1200 (NZST)
If you want assistance or diagnosis of this you will need to be a little more specific.
To start with, what URL are you starting from and what URL are you going to?

But if you are updating one web site from another, why not have two tabs or two browsers open and
just switch between them, it will generally be much faster.

Cheers, Stephen.

Keith Smith said:
> I've been adding the links from the Library site to completed scribe  notes in the Wiki (they're
> listed in green).  Going into the Wiki is  not a problem but, using the browser's back button to
> get back to the  library site causes a 'bounce back;' to the Wiki.
>
> I believe this is caused by an invisible page stop on the way in,  probably for security
> reasons, so to get back, you have to go back  two hops. On Firefox, this is done by the pulldown
> arrow next to the  back arrow and selecting the second most recent page visited. I
> presume IE has a similar mechanism.
>
> Keith
>
>
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SubjectRe: [dq] Black hat poll
FromZane Mendoza
DateSun, 9 Apr 2006 14:31:44 -0700 (PDT)
I have Bainbridge who isn't pacted but she has
multiple demon tainted things about her, and I doubt
it is going to be much longer before she does pact.



--- Mandos Mitchinson <MandosM@adhb.govt.nz> wrote:

> > Who actually in the guild is a black hat and
> active?
> 
> I would consider it more of a smudgy grey hat, but
> Dramus is Pacted and
> active.
> 
> Mandos
> /s
> 
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SubjectRe: [dq] Black hat poll
FromChris Caulfield
DateMon, 10 Apr 2006 09:32:56 +1200
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Its an inclination / alignment more than anything but;
- Dalran is pacted and Active
- Broc is aligned / pacted and Active
Regards, Chris

On 4/10/06, Mandos Mitchinson <MandosM@adhb.govt.nz> wrote:
>
> > Who actually in the guild is a black hat and active?
>
> I would consider it more of a smudgy grey hat, but Dramus is Pacted and
> active.
>
> Mandos
> /s
>
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<div>Its an inclination / alignment more than anything but;</div>
<div>- Dalran is pacted and Active</div>
<div>- Broc is aligned / pacted and Active<br>Regards, Chris<br>&nbsp;</div=
>
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SubjectRe: [dq] Black hat poll
Fromdworkin@ihug.co.nz
DateMon, 10 Apr 2006 10:48:52 +1200
C'mon people. Would you rather work for the marauding orcs
or the townsfolk?

It's not complicated. Are you a bad guy? When you get down
to it are you one of those people the Guild turns a
convienient blind eye to.

I'm not interested in amoral oppotunists or pacted status.
Who is evil?

Meta-discussions often turn to the subject of evil,
'black-hat' PCs. Well, who are they? Aside from some
notorious villians (Arnaud and Vivian) who else qualifies?

This is written because I'm wondering if there is demand for
'villian games', ones that the some part of the guild
beureaucracy keeps quiet because of some reason.

William


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SubjectRe: [dq] Black hat poll
FromMandos Mitchinson
DateMon, 10 Apr 2006 11:14:59 +1200
> It's not complicated. Are you a bad guy? When you get down
> to it are you one of those people the Guild turns a
> convienient blind eye to.
> 
> I'm not interested in amoral oppotunists or pacted status.
> Who is evil?

Then perhaps you should have asked that instead of requesting
millinerary details. 

The last villians game I ran had 

Morgan 
Sardak
Ughbash
and a fourth I cannot recollect. 

People who are activly trying to be Evil (with varying degree's of
success). 
Viola
Vivian
Scorpion
Armond

Those who don't have any moral qualms about performing evil tasks but
are not actually trying to be Evil. 

Tussock - (So long as it isn't slaving)
Faith

That's a few off the top of my head. 

Mandos
/s


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Subject[dq] DQ: turning a blind eye
FromJonathan Bean - TME
DateMon, 10 Apr 2006 14:18:54 +1200
Well...
95% of Guild members HAVE to turn a convienient blind eye.

It's the nature of the Seagate Advanturers Guild that the good characters
have to turn a blind eye as the evil characters are often guild members.

We are forced into a situation which was designed to control people/players
so that everyone got along nicely. Having an 'in game' orginsation which
puts characters together who would normaly be at odds, is hard on all
character. Players often have to come up with something as to why their
character do not seeing something or turning a blind eye etc so we can all
get along.

Its the nature of having the controls placed at the character level not the
player/person level.

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Jonathan Bean
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TME -it's all about time
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On Behalf Of
> dworkin@ihug.co.nz
> Sent: Monday, 10 April 2006 10:49 a.m.
> To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
> Subject: Re: [dq] Black hat poll
>
>
> C'mon people. Would you rather work for the marauding orcs
> or the townsfolk?
>
> It's not complicated. Are you a bad guy? When you get down
> to it are you one of those people the Guild turns a
> convienient blind eye to.
>
> I'm not interested in amoral oppotunists or pacted status.
> Who is evil?
>
> Meta-discussions often turn to the subject of evil,
> 'black-hat' PCs. Well, who are they? Aside from some
> notorious villians (Arnaud and Vivian) who else qualifies?
>
> This is written because I'm wondering if there is demand for
> 'villian games', ones that the some part of the guild
> beureaucracy keeps quiet because of some reason.
>
> William
>
>
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SubjectRe: [dq] Black hat poll
FromMichael Scott
DateMon, 10 Apr 2006 15:53:12 +1200
>From: William Dymock <dworkin@ihug.co.nz>
>Who actually in the guild is a black hat and active?
>
>William
>--

Human the Fool and MDK are two practical souls who would do anything for the 
right price, be it money or idervidual power.

Serra Angelus just dosn't give a shit as long as she isn't bored, though she 
only works in a support capacity.

TTFN
Michael

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