I note on page 23 of the current rulebook, where it says:
All weapons require minimum PS and MD characteristics. If you do not fulfil both
requirements, you may not rank a weapon.
It does not say that you can't use the weapon, simply that you cannot advance
your rank in the weapon.
I don't know that I have ever seen a specific rule which explains what happens
when someone uses a weapon when they stat point minuses. The conventions that I
have seen are:
1)
-5 to SC for every point of MD under the minimum.
-1 damage for every point of PS under the minimum.
2)
-1 to SC for every point of MD under the minimum.
No mod to damage that I could see.
I don't think it matters too much which resolution is chosen by the DM, so long
as the game moves swiftly onward, maintaining suspension of disbelief. If the
DM wants the penalties to be persistent and far-reaching, then I expect they
will rule stringently, if they want the action to flow, they may gloss over it.
As far as I can see, there is no particular rule covering it, nor is there any
need for one.
Jim.
Quoting "Andrew Withy (DSL AK)" <AndrewW@datacom.co.nz>:
> I think Helen & Ian's logic is interesting, and possibly "better".
> However, I've always seen it played as per Stephen/Jono. That is,
>
> Shield Defence - unmodified MD of 12
> Shield Attack - modified MD of 12 (or penalties)
>
> Andrew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] On Behalf Of
> carojono
> Sent: Tuesday, 31 October 2006 2:39 p.m.
> To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
> Subject: Re: [dq] Shields
>
> Hi Dylan,
>
> Defence: Yes you would gain the defence for and at the rank you have it
> at.
> Also shields count as giving you a rank at rank 0 so rank 4 shield would
> give you 5 ranks worth.
> Attack SC: When attacking with the shield (weapon) your MD would be
> lower so I agree with Stephen.
>
> Jono
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On Behalf Of
> Stephen Martin
> Sent: Tuesday, 31 October 2006 12:56 p.m.
> To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
> Subject: Re: [dq] Shields
>
>
> Yes. (IMO)
>
> RPer 4eva wrote:
> > But do you get full defense was my main concern.
> > Dylan
> >
> >
> > On 10/31/06, Stephen Martin <stephenm@aklnz.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> You need 12 MD to rank Shield as a weapon.
> >> While wielding a Kite Shield your effective MD is reduced by 3.
> >>
> >> Both apply.
> >>
> >> Anyone can attempt to wield any weapon (except non-giants trying to
> >> use giant weapons), but to wield it at normal effectiveness and train
>
> >> in it you need the specified minimum stats.
> >> If your effective stats are below the required values then you get a
> >> penalty of -5% SC per MD and
> >> -1 dam per PS below the minimums.
> >>
> >>
> >> If you normally have 12MD and strike an opponent with your Kite
> >> Shield then you will have -15% on your SC. You need 15MD to attack
> >> without penalty using the Kite Shield.
> >>
> >> Cheers, Stephen.
> >>
> >> RPer 4eva wrote:
> >> > Shields require MD of 12. They also lower your MD. Which rule takes
>
> >> > precedence. If a shield lowers your MD by 3 then do you still only
> >> > need
> >> a
> >> > base of 12 to use it or do you need a base of 15 so after the minus
>
> >> > 3
> >> you
> >> > still have 12? I'd always assumed you just needed the 12 but now it
> >> seems
> >> > that many people would say I still need 15. Can anyone tell me what
>
> >> > was intended by the rules?
> >> >
> >> > Dylan
> >> >
> >>
> >>
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