1.
In the players guide there is a section marked "5.16 Essences & Perfumes
per ounce" which includes Myrrh at 300sp per ounce.
Also there is a section "5.17 Rare or Magical Ingredients" which is
empty.

The Ritual "Greater Enchantment" (Q-1 of E&E) - Says:
Material: Black Myrrh (optional)
Material Cost: 200 sp per oz used

Are these the same?

2.
How much is a Pinch of Myrrh ?(Yes this is leading somewhere).
A quick Web check seems to imply between 1/4 and 1/2 a gram and there
are around 30 grams to the ounce.

I would believe a Pinch is enough to use as perfume.

3.
On of the characters (Sera Angellus - 9 Adventure Elven arth Mage) on my
adventure has a Wig that allows small things to be pulled from it.
Things like needles, Combs, A mouse and really small goods such as
actually might be hidden in a ladies wig (A Mouse?). There is a list of
20 - 30 things that's can be pulled from the wig.

And you guessed it one of these is a Pinch of Myrrh.
The item has a value of a few thousand silvers I think nothing to big.

The Extreme Stretch suggested  by Michael is that there is about 14
Pinches to the ounce and between adventures Sera pulls enough Myrrh (840
Pinches) from the wig to be the ingrediants for a High Rank Greater
Enchantment for all Four areas (12,000 sp worth).
Thus never having to pay for the Greater's.

Generically what are peoples ideas upon items that make goods that can
be sold.
Assuming it only makes normal 300 sp an ounce Myrrh at the rate of 120
Pinches per ounch this item can still do 1800 sp per Quarter.
More if it is Abused more.
Next week I will go over the item with a fine tooth comb.

But what do people think about items that generate saleable goods? What
quality should they be? Or should they have a short shelf life (use it
or loose it).
What price would you put on an item that generates revenue?
Could this revenue be taxed by the guild?

Other thoughts

Phil Judd


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(1) Michael *does* know better - he normally has plenty of common sense.
(2) If an item is valued at X, it shouldn't be able to produce goods
worth more than X in a quarter. Standard R.O.I. indicates around ten
years payback. In DQ, maybe five years? At say 5,000sp, it could then
produce ~250sp of saleable goods per quarter. I would suggest that the
intention of the item wasn't to provide a free supply of greaters/myrrh
(if it was, that's a separate discussion). How you implement that -
whack with the clue stick, limit of goods produced, etc. is between you
& Michael.
(3) Correct the Wig to produce Red Myrrh, which is for perfumes only...


Andrew 

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1.
In the players guide there is a section marked "5.16 Essences & Perfumes
per ounce" which includes Myrrh at 300sp per ounce.
Also there is a section "5.17 Rare or Magical Ingredients" which is
empty.

The Ritual "Greater Enchantment" (Q-1 of E&E) - Says:
Material: Black Myrrh (optional)
Material Cost: 200 sp per oz used

Are these the same?

2.
How much is a Pinch of Myrrh ?(Yes this is leading somewhere).
A quick Web check seems to imply between 1/4 and 1/2 a gram and there
are around 30 grams to the ounce.

I would believe a Pinch is enough to use as perfume.

3.
On of the characters (Sera Angellus - 9 Adventure Elven arth Mage) on my
adventure has a Wig that allows small things to be pulled from it.
Things like needles, Combs, A mouse and really small goods such as
actually might be hidden in a ladies wig (A Mouse?). There is a list of
20 - 30 things that's can be pulled from the wig.

And you guessed it one of these is a Pinch of Myrrh.
The item has a value of a few thousand silvers I think nothing to big.

The Extreme Stretch suggested  by Michael is that there is about 14
Pinches to the ounce and between adventures Sera pulls enough Myrrh (840
Pinches) from the wig to be the ingrediants for a High Rank Greater
Enchantment for all Four areas (12,000 sp worth).
Thus never having to pay for the Greater's.

Generically what are peoples ideas upon items that make goods that can
be sold.
Assuming it only makes normal 300 sp an ounce Myrrh at the rate of 120
Pinches per ounch this item can still do 1800 sp per Quarter.
More if it is Abused more.
Next week I will go over the item with a fine tooth comb.

But what do people think about items that generate saleable goods? What
quality should they be? Or should they have a short shelf life (use it
or loose it).
What price would you put on an item that generates revenue?
Could this revenue be taxed by the guild?

Other thoughts

Phil Judd


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It helps to keep clear in your heads that there areTWO sets of halflings=20
associated with Crystal Springs=20
- 500ish moved to Crystal Spings itself - I don't know when

- 120 ish appeared out of nowhere in 794 as a fully formed hamlet  called=20
Sunnynook a day south of Crystal Springs.Regards

Regards
Rosemary




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Found some references in old SGTs, have added them to the wiki and=20
included below.

Cheers, Stephen.

 797 wk

Special Reminder
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    It should also be noted that the Hobbits from the small village south=20
of Crystal Springs will
be spending most of spring in Seagate. This is because of increased danger =

from the Fastness
of Gywillion.

- SGT Issue 18: Ice 30 797wk

1994 AP

Hobbit Village Moves to Carzala
    The hobbit village of Sunnynook has recently relocated to a valley a=20
couple a days south of
the Carzalan village of Crystal Springs. The villagers are negotiating=20
with our Duke to extend
his protection to them. These skilled artisans may well be adding a new=20
style to our textiles
and ceramics.

- SGT Issue 7: 31st March 1994


Clare Baldock wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> I asked this a while ago, but maybe someone can help now. I am
> interested in the hobbits who moved to Crystal Spring in the last few
> years. The wiki (http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/
> Crystal=5FSpring) says Winter 805 but the scribe notes from that season
> show nothing about it (though I did only skim read them). When I
> spoke to Jono he said it was about 5 years ago, but looking at
> earlier scribe notes I also haven't found anything. Are any of the
> party members about who can help me with remembering when this happened.
>
> cheers,
>
> Clare
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4) have the items produced by the wig have both a lifespan (shortish)
and a "recharge" period (a little bit longer). which then means it's
great for the "I really need to have a hairpin" problem but not for
the "Lets build a bridge from hairpins".

I'd suggest a day for each time but hey

TTFN, Struan

On 12/14/06, DSL AK) <AndrewW@datacom.co.nz> <Andrew\Withy\\> wrote:
> (1) Michael *does* know better - he normally has plenty of common sense.
> (2) If an item is valued at X, it shouldn't be able to produce goods
> worth more than X in a quarter. Standard R.O.I. indicates around ten
> years payback. In DQ, maybe five years? At say 5,000sp, it could then
> produce ~250sp of saleable goods per quarter. I would suggest that the
> intention of the item wasn't to provide a free supply of greaters/myrrh
> (if it was, that's a separate discussion). How you implement that -
> whack with the clue stick, limit of goods produced, etc. is between you
> & Michael.
> (3) Correct the Wig to produce Red Myrrh, which is for perfumes only...
>
>
> Andrew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] On Behalf Of
> pjudd@clear.net.nz
> Sent: Thursday, 14 December 2006 6:35 a.m.
> To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
> Subject: [dq] Does Myrrh  Black Myrrh? / How much is a Pinch? / Items
> that make saleable goods.
>
> 1.
> In the players guide there is a section marked "5.16 Essences & Perfumes
> per ounce" which includes Myrrh at 300sp per ounce.
> Also there is a section "5.17 Rare or Magical Ingredients" which is
> empty.
>
> The Ritual "Greater Enchantment" (Q-1 of E&E) - Says:
> Material: Black Myrrh (optional)
> Material Cost: 200 sp per oz used
>
> Are these the same?
>
> 2.
> How much is a Pinch of Myrrh ?(Yes this is leading somewhere).
> A quick Web check seems to imply between 1/4 and 1/2 a gram and there
> are around 30 grams to the ounce.
>
> I would believe a Pinch is enough to use as perfume.
>
> 3.
> On of the characters (Sera Angellus - 9 Adventure Elven arth Mage) on my
> adventure has a Wig that allows small things to be pulled from it.
> Things like needles, Combs, A mouse and really small goods such as
> actually might be hidden in a ladies wig (A Mouse?). There is a list of
> 20 - 30 things that's can be pulled from the wig.
>
> And you guessed it one of these is a Pinch of Myrrh.
> The item has a value of a few thousand silvers I think nothing to big.
>
> The Extreme Stretch suggested  by Michael is that there is about 14
> Pinches to the ounce and between adventures Sera pulls enough Myrrh (840
> Pinches) from the wig to be the ingrediants for a High Rank Greater
> Enchantment for all Four areas (12,000 sp worth).
> Thus never having to pay for the Greater's.
>
> Generically what are peoples ideas upon items that make goods that can
> be sold.
> Assuming it only makes normal 300 sp an ounce Myrrh at the rate of 120
> Pinches per ounch this item can still do 1800 sp per Quarter.
> More if it is Abused more.
> Next week I will go over the item with a fine tooth comb.
>
> But what do people think about items that generate saleable goods? What
> quality should they be? Or should they have a short shelf life (use it
> or loose it).
> What price would you put on an item that generates revenue?
> Could this revenue be taxed by the guild?
>
> Other thoughts
>
> Phil Judd
>
>
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The difference in prices of myrrh maybe a uncorrected error in the players
guide, didn't we change the cost when we changed the Greater ritual?

Thorn has had for much of her adventuring life a coin (a TSG) that makes
TGS's.
Its an Andrew Item, that makes up to its users WP  in TSG on each and every
plane you visit.
Potentially 5040-6300sp a plane.
In the 11 years she's had it she has made maybe 3500sp out of an item with a
value of 15677sp only partly due to the downsides in was created with, and
partly because (until recently) Thorn hasn't needed a lot of Money.
The down sides are you can't take the created coins from one plane to
another, they have a magical Aura (Try passing  magic coins in a world with
binders and illusionist sometime), there is a week between uses, and it has
to be on a plane a week before it can be used.

Maybe this wig is a little too easy to use, Starflowers teapot can make
healing potions but only on a given dice roll.

Helen

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Subject: [dq] Does Myrrh = Black Myrrh? / How much is a Pinch? / Items that
makesaleable goods.


> 1.
> In the players guide there is a section marked "5.16 Essences & Perfumes
> per ounce" which includes Myrrh at 300sp per ounce.
> Also there is a section "5.17 Rare or Magical Ingredients" which is
> empty.
>
> The Ritual "Greater Enchantment" (Q-1 of E&E) - Says:
> Material: Black Myrrh (optional)
> Material Cost: 200 sp per oz used
>
> Are these the same?
>
> 2.
> How much is a Pinch of Myrrh ?(Yes this is leading somewhere).
> A quick Web check seems to imply between 1/4 and 1/2 a gram and there
> are around 30 grams to the ounce.
>
> I would believe a Pinch is enough to use as perfume.
>
> 3.
> On of the characters (Sera Angellus - 9 Adventure Elven arth Mage) on my
> adventure has a Wig that allows small things to be pulled from it.
> Things like needles, Combs, A mouse and really small goods such as
> actually might be hidden in a ladies wig (A Mouse?). There is a list of
> 20 - 30 things that's can be pulled from the wig.
>
> And you guessed it one of these is a Pinch of Myrrh.
> The item has a value of a few thousand silvers I think nothing to big.
>
> The Extreme Stretch suggested  by Michael is that there is about 14
> Pinches to the ounce and between adventures Sera pulls enough Myrrh (840
> Pinches) from the wig to be the ingrediants for a High Rank Greater
> Enchantment for all Four areas (12,000 sp worth).
> Thus never having to pay for the Greater's.
>
> Generically what are peoples ideas upon items that make goods that can
> be sold.
> Assuming it only makes normal 300 sp an ounce Myrrh at the rate of 120
> Pinches per ounch this item can still do 1800 sp per Quarter.
> More if it is Abused more.
> Next week I will go over the item with a fine tooth comb.
>
> But what do people think about items that generate saleable goods? What
> quality should they be? Or should they have a short shelf life (use it
> or loose it).
> What price would you put on an item that generates revenue?
> Could this revenue be taxed by the guild?
>
> Other thoughts
>
> Phil Judd


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1. I think Myrrh and Black Myrrh are different.  Myrrh is the raw material, Black Myrrh is a
magical substance used by Enchanters that is prepared by senior Alchemists in a secret process
(they probably cut it with powdered charcoal so it'll burn nicely in the ritual).

2. Sounds reasonable.

3. Borrow the clue stick, apply it liberally.  Lots of items can be abused, most players choose
not to, or choose to use/abuse them in a non-adventuring way.
E.g. Serra Angellus might use the wig to start producing a range of Myrrh based perfumes,
generating enough from this to keep himself in fine silks, wine, and women between adventures. 
And hopefully his customers will never find out they are applying Eau-d'Enchanted-Dandruff.
This is fine, it does not affect game or item balance, while giving the character some benefit.

If he chooses not to self-regulate the item then there are plenty of ways it can be altered to
keep it to the presumed intent - to produce the little things a lady needs from time to time.


In principle I think that items should not generate adventuring wealth.  Generating higher quality
lifestyle is fine, but coin is one of the balancing factors of the game.  It may be the least
effective (most broken) balancing factor but we should try not to break it any further.

Cheers, Stephen.

pjudd@clear.net.nz wrote:
> 1.
> In the players guide there is a section marked "5.16 Essences & Perfumes
> per ounce" which includes Myrrh at 300sp per ounce.
> Also there is a section "5.17 Rare or Magical Ingredients" which is
> empty.
>
> The Ritual "Greater Enchantment" (Q-1 of E&E) - Says:
> Material: Black Myrrh (optional)
> Material Cost: 200 sp per oz used
>
> Are these the same?
>
> 2.
> How much is a Pinch of Myrrh ?(Yes this is leading somewhere).
> A quick Web check seems to imply between 1/4 and 1/2 a gram and there
> are around 30 grams to the ounce.
>
> I would believe a Pinch is enough to use as perfume.
>
> 3.
> On of the characters (Sera Angellus - 9 Adventure Elven arth Mage) on my
> adventure has a Wig that allows small things to be pulled from it.
> Things like needles, Combs, A mouse and really small goods such as
> actually might be hidden in a ladies wig (A Mouse?). There is a list of
> 20 - 30 things that's can be pulled from the wig.
>
> And you guessed it one of these is a Pinch of Myrrh.
> The item has a value of a few thousand silvers I think nothing to big.
>
> The Extreme Stretch suggested  by Michael is that there is about 14
> Pinches to the ounce and between adventures Sera pulls enough Myrrh (840
> Pinches) from the wig to be the ingrediants for a High Rank Greater
> Enchantment for all Four areas (12,000 sp worth).
> Thus never having to pay for the Greater's.
>
> Generically what are peoples ideas upon items that make goods that can
> be sold.
> Assuming it only makes normal 300 sp an ounce Myrrh at the rate of 120
> Pinches per ounch this item can still do 1800 sp per Quarter.
> More if it is Abused more.
> Next week I will go over the item with a fine tooth comb.
>
> But what do people think about items that generate saleable goods? What
> quality should they be? Or should they have a short shelf life (use it
> or loose it).
> What price would you put on an item that generates revenue?
> Could this revenue be taxed by the guild?
>
> Other thoughts
>
> Phil Judd
>
>
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On 14/12/2006, at 08:13, RMansfield@ingnz.com wrote:

>
> It helps to keep clear in your heads that there areTWO sets of  
> halflings associated with Crystal Springs
> - 500ish moved to Crystal Spings itself - I don't know when
>
> - 120 ish appeared out of nowhere in 794 as a fully formed hamlet   
> called Sunnynook a day south of Crystal Springs.Regards

Let me quote here the notes I made in Early Spring 2005 from a  
conversation with Jono:

1. There are three groups of hobbits in Crsytal Spring:

a) A group of Loyalist hobbits (loyal to King Sigismund). They  
support the Kings Rapiers secretly. They have lived here a long time  
(as long times go in this part of the world).
b) A group of hobbits that came here from the Five Sisters 8 years  
ago. They left because they were pushed out for political reasons.  
They have an arabic look, and may speak Lunar in addition to  
hobbitish and common.
c) A group of hobbits that came here through a magical pool from no- 
one knows quite where 5 years ago. They came because their area was  
being overrun by orcs and goblins. A guild party suspects from NW  
Drakenberg, or Altrandor. They tend to only speak hobbitish, and now  
common.

I don't think any of these are the Sunnynook hobbits.

cheers,

Clare


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You are right - none of these are the Sunnynook halflings, and I haven't=20
heard of any of these groups.

Rose





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On 14/12/2006, at 08:13, RMansfield@ingnz.com wrote:

>
> It helps to keep clear in your heads that there areTWO sets of=20
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> - 500ish moved to Crystal Spings itself - I don't know when
>
> - 120 ish appeared out of nowhere in 794 as a fully formed hamlet=20
> called Sunnynook a day south of Crystal Springs.Regards

Let me quote here the notes I made in Early Spring 2005 from a=20
conversation with Jono:

1. There are three groups of hobbits in Crsytal Spring:

a) A group of Loyalist hobbits (loyal to King Sigismund). They=20
support the Kings Rapiers secretly. They have lived here a long time=20
(as long times go in this part of the world).
b) A group of hobbits that came here from the Five Sisters 8 years=20
ago. They left because they were pushed out for political reasons.=20
They have an arabic look, and may speak Lunar in addition to=20
hobbitish and common.
c) A group of hobbits that came here through a magical pool from no-=20
one knows quite where 5 years ago. They came because their area was=20
being overrun by orcs and goblins. A guild party suspects from NW=20
Drakenberg, or Altrandor. They tend to only speak hobbitish, and now=20
common.

I don't think any of these are the Sunnynook hobbits.

cheers,

Clare


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<br><font size=3D2 face=3D"sans-serif">You are right - none of these are the
Sunnynook halflings, and I haven't heard of any of these groups.</font><br>=
<br><font size=3D2 face=3D"sans-serif">Rose</font><br><br><br><br><br><tabl=
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><font size=3D1 face=3D"sans-serif">Re: [dq] Crystal Spring</font></table><=
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t size=3D2><br>On 14/12/2006, at 08:13, RMansfield@ingnz.com wrote:<br><br>=
&gt;<br>&gt; It helps to keep clear in your heads that there areTWO sets of=
 &nbsp;<br>&gt; halflings associated with Crystal Springs<br>&gt; - 500ish =
moved to Crystal Spings itself - I don't know when<br>&gt;<br>&gt; - 120 is=
h appeared out of nowhere in 794 as a fully formed hamlet
&nbsp; <br>&gt; called Sunnynook a day south of Crystal Springs.Regards<br>=
<br>Let me quote here the notes I made in Early Spring 2005 from a &nbsp;<b=
r>conversation with Jono:<br><br>1. There are three groups of hobbits in Cr=
sytal Spring:<br><br>a) A group of Loyalist hobbits (loyal to King Sigismun=
d). They &nbsp;<br>support the Kings Rapiers secretly. They have lived here=
 a long time &nbsp;<br>(as long times go in this part of the world).<br>b) =
A group of hobbits that came here from the Five Sisters 8 years &nbsp;<br>a=
go. They left because they were pushed out for political reasons. &nbsp;<br=
>They have an arabic look, and may speak Lunar in addition to &nbsp;<br>hob=
bitish and common.<br>c) A group of hobbits that came here through a magica=
l pool from no- <br>one knows quite where 5 years ago. They came because th=
eir area was &nbsp;<br>being overrun by orcs and goblins. A guild party sus=
pects from NW &nbsp;<br>Drakenberg, or Altrandor. They tend to only speak h=
obbitish, and now &nbsp;<br>common.<br><br>I don't think any of these are t=
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At 09:07 a.m. 14/12/2006, you wrote:
>Maybe this wig is a little too easy to use, Starflowers teapot can make
>healing potions but only on a given dice roll.

And given the way adventurers go through healing potions, I've not 
considered said teapot as a profit-making device... last night it 
popped out healing potion we used the lot within 24 hours.

Starflower


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>From: pjudd@clear.net.nz

>How much is a Pinch of Myrrh ?(Yes this is leading somewhere).
>A quick Web check seems to imply between 1/4 and 1/2 a gram and there
>are around 30 grams to the ounce.
>
>I would believe a Pinch is enough to use as perfume.
>
>3.
>On of the characters (Sera Angellus - 9 Adventure Elven arth Mage) on my
>adventure has a Wig that allows small things to be pulled from it.
>Things like needles, Combs, A mouse and really small goods such as
>actually might be hidden in a ladies wig (A Mouse?). There is a list of
>20 - 30 things that's can be pulled from the wig.
>
>And you guessed it one of these is a Pinch of Myrrh.
>The item has a value of a few thousand silvers I think nothing to big.
>
>The Extreme Stretch suggested  by Michael is that there is about 14
>Pinches to the ounce and between adventures Sera pulls enough Myrrh (840
>Pinches) from the wig to be the ingrediants for a High Rank Greater
>Enchantment for all Four areas (12,000 sp worth).
>Thus never having to pay for the Greater's.

Not quite what I ment. I was suggesting that by providing a proportion of 
the materials myself I would get a discount.

For your curiousities satisfaction;

Wistria's Wig

This is a powdered, stacked high court ladies wig. If it is worn there is a 
(hours worn x 5) percent chance that the lady can find one of the following 
items in it;

A mouse
A nip of brandy
A 3' long ribbon
A horseshoe
A nasty hairpin (dagger stats)
A pouch of snuff
A peice of furit
A cameo button
A pearl worth 200sp
A wraped truffle
A dove
An ace of Hearts (that matches any deck the wearer is using)
A 3' long gold thread
A powderpuff
A pinch of black myrrh (need 16 to make a greater enchantment)
An invertation to the next court function (any normal court)
An exotic flower
A small silver mirror
A lacy handkerchief
A lipstick

The lady must state what she is looking for and she can look for something 
once every five hours.
Incidently, the wig totally protects the wearer from being sapped.
It is impossible to sleep in the wig.

Cost 2500sp
Anna Curise

The way I look at it waring the wig for 15 hours I make three attempts per 
day First at 25% then 50% and finally 100% chance of getting what i ask for.

So over a 3 month period takng averages

90 attempts at 25 = (1 in 4 chance of success) = 22 pinches
90 at 50 (1in2) = 45
90 at 100 = 90
so after 3 months I have 157 pinches which = 9 and a bit ounces which I then 
use to defray some of the cost of my next greater, I spose I could just sell 
it or the pearl for the same effect I certainly didn't mean to imply I would 
be getting something for nothing. There is the mages labour and time for 
example and even a mid rank greater on 2 aspects requires about 6 months of 
myrrh prodution.

As for the game I'm am quite happy to have forgotten items GMs don't want 
used and given the level of the party it proberly makes sense to for go a 
greater this session so as not to unbalance the party.

On a personal note yeah I figure anna left off a zero but when I asked she 
stood by her evaluaton can't remember the reasons as it was 4 or 5 games 
back.

TTFN
Michael

PS all I asked for was a immune to being sapped item LOL

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On 14/12/2006, at 18:57, Michael Scott wrote:

> The way I look at it waring the wig for 15 hours I make three  
> attempts per day First at 25% then 50% and finally 100% chance of  
> getting what i ask for.

Even when I multiply 15 by 5 I only get 75%

cheers,

Clare


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