What is a good criteria for possession or passenger ?
The ability to actively resist has drawbacks as stunned people cannot do so. 

Are unconscious or stunned PCs posessions? Are coherent Pcs passengers?

"Look upon this sap as your saviour" thwack!


Ian (where the weather is cool enough to be cold for several minutes at 8 am, and yet warm enough to dry my jeans in under an hour)
---- Andrew Withy <awithy@ihug.co.nz> wrote: 
> I believe that any mouse is an entity - skin-changed or not. Entities
> include all animals (though normal-sized insects seem to be borderline).
> Also, skin-change allows the target to keep their mind, so the mouse is a
> sentient entity.
> 
> On the other hand, the GM should do whatever works best for gameflow/plot at
> the time.
> 
> Body lice go invisible with you, the weasel down your trousers does not.
> This is another reason why dwarves don't hide well...
> 
> Andrew
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] On Behalf Of
> Stephen Martin
> Sent: Wednesday, 30 May 2007 3:28 p.m.
> To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
> Subject: [dq] Skin Changed Entities as Posessions
> 
> If a character is skin changed into a mouse, do they then count as a
> possession for the purposes
> of magic?
> 
> E.g. If I Windwalk does the mouse in my pocket come with me or get left
> behind?
> Or if I go invisible is there then a visible mouse floating along at pocket
> height?
> 
> Cheers, Stephen.
> 
> 
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>What is a good criteria for possession or passenger ?
>The ability to actively resist has drawbacks as stunned people cannot do so.
>
>Are unconscious or stunned PCs posessions? Are coherent Pcs passengers?
>
>"Look upon this sap as your saviour" thwack!

Personally, I'd count anything that had a MA and WP stat, i.e. is 
sentient and able to resist magic.

Keith


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On 5/30/07, Andrew Withy <awithy@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
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> I believe that any mouse is an entity - skin-changed or not. Entities
> include all animals (though normal-sized insects seem to be borderline).


Agreed -- that appears consistent with previous rulings.

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On 5/30/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Andrew Withy</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:awithy@ihug.co.nz">awithy@ihug.co.nz</a>&gt; wrote:<div><span class="gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I believe that any mouse is an entity - skin-changed or not. Entities<br>include all animals (though normal-sized insects seem to be borderline).</blockquote><div><br>Agreed -- that appears consistent with previous rulings.
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As a GM I'd lean towards treating a mouse as an entity, and thus left behind on a wind walk..... 
But that said, middle of a fight, an unconcious or stunned PC, I'd also let the party grab them and windwalk out of there to escape, because it is appropriate theatre for them to do so.
Just not to exceed limits of the spell or transport 100 skinchanged mice slaves or something.

Bernard.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] On Behalf Of
> Stephen Martin
> Sent: Wednesday, 30 May 2007 3:28 p.m.
> To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
> Subject: [dq] Skin Changed Entities as Posessions
> 
> If a character is skin changed into a mouse, do they then count as a
> possession for the purposes
> of magic?
> 
> E.g. If I Windwalk does the mouse in my pocket come with me or get left
> behind?
> Or if I go invisible is there then a visible mouse floating along at pocket
> height?
> 
> Cheers, Stephen.




From Bernard Hoggins
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As a GM I'd lean towards treating a mouse as an entity, and thus left behind on a wind walk..... <br>But that said, middle of a fight, an unconcious or stunned PC, I'd also let the party grab them and windwalk out of there to escape, because it is appropriate theatre for them to do so.<br>Just not to exceed limits of the spell or transport 100 skinchanged mice slaves or something.<br><br>Bernard.<br><br><blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><awithy@ihug.co.nz>&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>&gt; From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] On Behalf Of<br>&gt; Stephen Martin<br>&gt; Sent: Wednesday, 30 May 2007 3:28 p.m.<br>&gt; To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz<br>&gt; Subject: [dq] Skin Changed Entities as Posessions<br>&gt; <br>&gt; If a character is skin changed into a mouse, do they then count as a<br>&gt; possession for the purposes<br>&gt; of magic?<br>&gt; <br>&gt; E.g. If I Windwalk does
 the mouse in my pocket come with me or get left<br>&gt; behind?<br>&gt; Or if I go invisible is there then a visible mouse floating along at pocket<br>&gt; height?<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Cheers, Stephen.<br><br></awithy@ihug.co.nz></blockquote><br><BR><BR>From Bernard Hoggins<br>nevyn0ad@yahoo.co.uk<p>&#32;






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