SubjectRe: [dq] DQ Maps-- star charts
FromMichael Scott
DateWed, 27 Jun 2007 02:24:57 +1200
As to translating the maps to google do whatever is easyest.

As for gameplay as any long lived sentiant can tell you just when you have 
gotten the night sky memorised, figured out how the world works or have 
finnally computed every permutation of magic the damn gods change the plane, 
die/shoot through or go to war.

And then every new kid on the block wants to make its own mark not to 
mention all the trouble the lesser races get into poking about the reality.

As far as game mechanics I'm with David Brin its not one theroy or the 
other, all are true somewhere, everywhere. After all manipulating the 
reality and its current perametres is what adventuring and the guild is all 
about.

TTFN
Michael

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SubjectRe: [dq] DQ Star Charts
FromHelen Saggers
DateWed, 27 Jun 2007 10:14:43 +1200
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Michael has summed it up quiet nicely there are maybe half a dozen good =
bright stars that are used by most Alusian rangers and navigators and =
that are known by as many names as there are languages.
And while the Elves might call a particular group of stars The Tree, the =
Dwarves might have those same stars as wings on the Great Dragon, and in =
the Luna empire 'The Tree' may be a Wheat Sheaf.

Since we are have trouble defining if the worlds round or flat and how =
big it is, think of the problems we'd have defining constellations, =
everyone seeing or wanting different things.
We don't need star charts, maybe we could define a few of those =
navigational stars and their common names in the major languages but I =
don't really see a point to that either.

Helen

Ps Keith
Were Aqulina sees a dolphin riding a bow wave, Phaeton would probably =
see a mermaid with long hair.

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I assume Helen's suggestion was in jest. =20

It does NOT matter what specific stars navigators use, merely that they
DO use them to navigate and would recognise references to them in
relevant charts, rutters, etc.  Similarly, we do not need to invent
names (& music) for all the great troubadours in the Western Kingdom ...
if it is important to your particular adventure, then you introduce it
appropriately.

Fortunately there are so many races & cultures in Alusia that we don't
really need to know which specific constellations exist in the myths of
the various cultures, if any GM wants a constellation of "the peacock",
"the hydra", "the titan", or "the Kraken", then it can exist -- Just as
it's up to the GM to inform the players whether an astrology reading
mentioning "The Drunken Orc" is *obviously* referring to=20
 ... the well-known hostelry at Rederring (on the Northern Highway);
 ... the local baron's former jester;
 ... a constellation in Southern Skies, just below "the wine-jug";
 ... whatever.

regards, Michael


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SubjectRe: [dq] DQ Star Charts
Fromdworkin@ihug.co.nz
DateWed, 27 Jun 2007 11:12:08 +1200
> Michael has summed it up quiet nicely there are maybe half
> a dozen good bright stars that are used by most Alusian
> rangers and navigators and that are known by as many names
> as there are languages. And while the Elves might call a
> particular group of stars The Tree, the Dwarves might have
> those same stars as wings on the Great Dragon, and in the
> Luna empire 'The Tree' may be a Wheat Sheaf.
>
I still think the constellation "The Gribble" is universally
recognisable as squamishly crawls across the skys eating
other constellations :.-)

William


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