SubjectRe: [dq] County of Brastor?
FromJonathan Bean
DateFri, 31 Aug 2007 09:15:49 +1200
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Hi all,

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Martin said:

Is your concern that the SGT never published an official retraction?

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It may not be the intention but the SGT has a large sway on people both
GMs and Players alike.

Given that it was lead story, and with no retraction or clarification
about it (which will still be news to some people), it would be good to
have some form of follow up story.

Since it's a campaign committee event (story arc) can we get the
campaign committee to print something, so we as GMs and Players can know
what is going on?

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From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] On Behalf Of
Martin Dickson
Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2007 5:10 p.m.
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: Re: [dq] County of Brastor?

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On 8/30/07, Jonathan Bean <jonathanB@timedisciple.com> wrote:

	In the Seagate Times Issue 53 - Winter 806, the lead story was
on the new County of Brastor and new Count. See=20
http://dq.sf.org.nz/library/sgt53.pdf

	...

	What has happened to this? I can not see any write-up for this
on the wiki and can not see any retraction in the SGT for the lead
story.


I'm a bit confused Jono: looking at the wiki edits Mandos changed
Brastor from a "Castellancy" to a "County" on 27 Jun 2006, and you
subsequently changed "County" to "Barony" on 19 Sep 2006; which it has
remained for the best part of a year.  The matter appears quite settled
& stable.=20

Is your concern that the SGT never published an official retraction?

Cheers,
Martin

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font =
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dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Martin Dickson<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 30 August =
2007
5:10 p.m.<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">dq@dq.sf.org.nz</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [dq] =
<st1:place
w:st=3D"on"><st1:PlaceType w:st=3D"on">County</st1:PlaceType> of =
<st1:PlaceName
 =
w:st=3D"on">Brastor</st1:PlaceName></st1:place>?</span></font><o:p></o:p>=
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style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>On 8/30/07, <st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on"><b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Jonathan
 Bean</span></b></st1:PersonName> &lt;<a
href=3D"mailto:jonathanB@timedisciple.com">jonathanB@timedisciple.com</a>=
&gt;
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-NZ =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>In the Seagate Times Issue 53 - Winter 806, the lead story was on =
the
new <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:PlaceType =
w:st=3D"on">County</st1:PlaceType> of <st1:PlaceName
 w:st=3D"on">Brastor</st1:PlaceName></st1:place> and new Count. See <a
href=3D"http://dq.sf.org.nz/library/sgt53.pdf" =
target=3D"_blank">http://dq.sf.org.nz/library/sgt53.pdf</a></span></font>=
<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-NZ =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>What has happened to this? I can not see any write-up for this on =
the
wiki and can not see any retraction in the SGT for the lead =
story.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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I'm a bit confused Jono: looking at the wiki edits Mandos changed =
Brastor from
a &quot;Castellancy&quot; to a &quot;County&quot; on 27 Jun 2006, and =
you
subsequently changed &quot;County&quot; to &quot;Barony&quot; on 19 Sep =
2006;
which it has remained for the best part of a year.&nbsp; The matter =
appears
quite settled &amp; stable. <br>
<br>
Is your concern that the SGT never published an official retraction?<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Martin<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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SubjectRe: [dq] County of Brastor?
FromMartin Dickson
DateFri, 31 Aug 2007 11:16:44 +1200
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On 8/31/07, Jonathan Bean <jonathanB@timedisciple.com> wrote:
>
>  It may not be the intention but the SGT has a large sway on people both
> GMs and Players alike.
>
> Given that it was lead story, and with no retraction or clarification
> about it (which will still be news to some people), it would be good to have
> some form of follow up story.
>
> Since it's a campaign committee event (story arc) can we get the campaign
> committee to print something, so we as GMs and Players can know what is
> going on?
>

 Hi Jono,

Fair enough.

The SGT gets used for several purposes, some of which conflict a bit with
each other.  It's a scandal sheet on the one hand -- they never
retracted/corrected the story that claimed "Sabrina is a Man!", but then nor
should they, it is clearly scandal / joke / parody... I hope.

The scribe notes and player submitted stories are not fact checked and may
or may not be true representations of what occurred, or what the party
thought occurred, etc. How much credence should be put in these?

On the other hand it also gets used to communicate campaign events and these
need to be seen to be reasonably reliable representations of in-game
reality.  In the case of the County Brastor story subsequent discussions
concluded it to be a good idea to cancel the event, but no official notice
was given.

Given how long ago this (didn't) happen, and how it effects a very few
people, making appropriate notes in the wiki may be better than an SGT
retraction.  But for future reference, yes, if a campaign / official /
semi-official happening is reported in the SGT and then altered / canceled
it would be sensible to have a modifying entry in the next issue.

Cheers,
Martin

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On 8/31/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jonathan Bean</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:jonathanB@timedisciple.com">jonathanB@timedisciple.com</a>&gt; wrote:<div><span class="gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">

















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<div><p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">It may not be the intention but the SGT
has a large sway on people both GMs and Players alike.</span></font></p>

<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Given that it was lead story, and with no
retraction or clarification about it (which will still be news to some people),
it would be good to have some form of follow up story.</span></font></p>

<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Since it's a campaign committee
event (story arc) can we get the campaign committee to print something, so we
as GMs and Players can know what is going on?</span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br>&nbsp;Hi Jono,<br><br>Fair enough.<br><br>The SGT gets used for several purposes, some of which conflict a bit with each other.&nbsp; It&#39;s a scandal sheet on the one hand -- they never retracted/corrected the story that claimed &quot;Sabrina is a Man!&quot;, but then nor should they, it is clearly scandal / joke / parody... I hope.
<br><br>The scribe notes and player submitted stories are not fact checked and may or may not be true representations of what occurred, or what the party thought occurred, etc. How much credence should be put in these?<br>
<br>On the other hand it also gets used to communicate campaign events and these need to be seen to be reasonably reliable representations of in-game reality.&nbsp; In the case of the County Brastor story subsequent discussions concluded it to be a good idea to cancel the event, but no official notice was given.
<br><br>Given how long ago this (didn&#39;t) happen, and how it effects a very few people, making appropriate notes in the wiki may be better than an SGT retraction.&nbsp; But for future reference, yes, if a campaign / official / semi-official happening is reported in the SGT and then altered / canceled it would be sensible to have a modifying entry in the next issue.
<br><br>Cheers,<br>Martin<br></div></div><br>

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SubjectRe: [dq] Adventures next season
FromErrol Cavit
DateFri, 31 Aug 2007 15:52:34 +1200
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There certainly seems to be demand for one, going by
http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/Adventure_Wanted_September_20
07

Cheers
Errol

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Afternoon All,

I see that there are already 4 full adventures on the Wiki for the next
season.
Is anybody else planning to run a low or med adventure next season?

Cheers
Nick
Aka Albion / Ath Bo Heleg


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SubjectRe: [dq] Adventures next season
FromHelen Saggers
DateFri, 31 Aug 2007 16:57:43 +1200
I created the page months ago, knowing that all I would have avaible to play
this session was one of the bunnies rolled up etc last spring/summer and
wanting to give the nice GM people plenty of warning.

Nice to see Im not alone in wanting an adventure of that level

Helen


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