Messages for 02 September 2007

Subject	Re: [dq] County of Brastor?
From	Errol Cavit
Date	Sun, 2 Sep 2007 13:41:25 +1200
This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7ED02.5F80F9AA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The events of Autumn 806 were not communicated to those that claim to own her? I hope that this is a out-of-game oversight/communication issue. http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/Sea_Goddess_Haven <http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/Sea_Goddess_Haven> http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/The_Siege_of_Novadom <http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/The_Siege_of_Novadom> Cheers Errol -----Original Message----- From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On Behalf Of Michael Scott Sent: Saturday, 1 September 2007 23:04 To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Subject: Re: [dq] County of Brastor? _____ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:16:32 +1200 Subject: Re: [dq] County of Brastor? From: dworkin@ihug.co.nz To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz The Pride of Fingolfin (Sea Goddess Haven) is floating outside Newhaven and is being refitted by elves back to being a Battleship. Gosh that's nice of them but when are they going to return it and how much rent are we getting? Also what is the blue book on it especially now that it is modified and just which of the current owners agreed to the hireage ( I'm working on a master rank for Asparagus growing). TTFN Human the Fool _____ Get news, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Check it out! <http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7ED02.5F80F9AA Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <STYLE>.hmmessage P { PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: = 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } BODY.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma } </STYLE> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY class=3Dhmmessage> <DIV><SPAN class=3D687071701-02092007><FONT face=3DArial = color=3D#0000ff>The events of=20 Autumn 806 were not communicated to those that claim to own her? I hope = that=20 this is a out-of-game oversight/communication = issue.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D687071701-02092007><FONT face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D687071701-02092007><FONT face=3DArial = color=3D#0000ff><A=20 href=3D"http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/Sea_Goddess_Haven= ">http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/Sea_Goddess_Haven</A></= FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D687071701-02092007><FONT face=3DArial = color=3D#0000ff><A=20 href=3D"http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/The_Siege_of_Nova= dom">http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/The_Siege_of_Novadom= </A></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D687071701-02092007><FONT face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D687071701-02092007><FONT face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff>Cheers</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D687071701-02092007><FONT face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff>Errol</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D687071701-02092007><FONT face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT=20 face=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> = dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz=20 [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Michael=20 Scott<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, 1 September 2007 23:04<BR><B>To:</B>=20 dq@dq.sf.org.nz<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [dq] County of=20 Brastor?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:16:32 +1200<BR>Subject: Re: [dq] County = of=20 Brastor?<BR>From: dworkin@ihug.co.nz<BR>To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz<BR><BR> <META content=3D"Microsoft SafeHTML" name=3DGenerator> <STYLE></STYLE> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>The Pride of Fingolfin (Sea Goddess Haven) = is floating=20 outside Newhaven and is being refitted by elves back to being a=20 Battleship.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Gosh that's nice of them but when are they = going to=20 return it and how much rent are we getting?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Also what is the blue book on it especially = now that=20 it is modified and just which of the current owners agreed to the = hireage (=20 I'm working on a master rank for Asparagus growing).</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>TTFN</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Human the = Fool</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <HR> Get news, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. <A = href=3D"http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx " target=3D_new>Check it = out!</A>=20 </BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7ED02.5F80F9AA-- -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz --

Subject	Re: [dq] Renaissance Colour Terms
From	Kelsie McArthur
Date	Sun, 2 Sep 2007 14:11:10 +1200
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004C_01C7ED6B.1D349F60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Really? Try this http://ourworld.cs.com/_ht_a/constancefairfax/Claie.htm or this http://www.st-mike.org/lizcolor.html. Kelsie _____ From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] On Behalf Of Andrew Withy Sent: Saturday, 1 September 2007 7:05 p.m. To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Subject: [dq] Renaissance Colour Terms This is a "did-you-know" post. I'll assume most of you also don't care, but for those that do. The wide range of colour terms that we use in English appear to be quite recent (there are similar findings in other languages too). Many colour terms were introduced as dyes were found to consistently produce a single shade. This means that the vocab was much more limited in Renaissance times (and many philologists thought that colour vision only evolved in the last 2,000 years). GMs with limited colour vocabs (like me) need not feel so bad ! ----------------------------------------- Recorded colours up to 1500: Black 700 Green 700 Grey 700 Red 700 Yellow 700 White 950 Purple 975 Gold 1300 Blue 1300 Brown 1300 Violet 1370 Scarlet 1386 Crimson 1400 Vermilion 1400 Silver 1481 Azure 1481 Amber 1500 ----------------------------------------- And a wider range of standard colour terms: ----------------------------------------- Colour First recorded Amber 1500 Aqua(marine) 1862 Azure 1481 Beige 1879 Black 700 Blue 1300 Brown 1300 Carmine 1799 Charcoal 1952 Chartreuse 1884 Cream 1872 Crimson 1400 Emerald 1598 Fawn 1881 Fuchsia 1923 Gold 1300 Green 700 Grey 700 Indigo 1622 Lavender 1882 Lemon 1796 Lilac 1791 Lime 1923 Magenta 1860 Maroon 1791 Mauve 1860 Mustard 1848 Navy 1840 Olive 1662 Orange 1600 Peach 1848 Pink 1720 Plum 1878 Puce 1787 Purple 975 Red 700 Rose 1530 Rust 1716 Scarlet 1386 Silver 1481 Tan 1749 Tangerine 1899 Teal 1923 Turquoise 1853 Ultramarine 1598 Vermilion 1400 White 950 Violet 1370 Yellow 700 [For scholars, the corpus I'm using is the Bank of English] Back to my study. Andrew ------=_NextPart_000_004C_01C7ED6B.1D349F60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Renaissance Colour Terms</TITLE> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.3086" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D687250902-02092007><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Really? Try this</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D687250902-02092007><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D687250902-02092007><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><A=20 href=3D"http://ourworld.cs.com/_ht_a/constancefairfax/Claie.htm">http://o= urworld.cs.com/_ht_a/constancefairfax/Claie.htm</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D687250902-02092007><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D687250902-02092007><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>or this</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D687250902-02092007><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D687250902-02092007><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><A=20 href=3D"http://www.st-mike.org/lizcolor.html">http://www.st-mike.org/lizc= olor.html</A>.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D687250902-02092007><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D687250902-02092007><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Kelsie</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft> <HR tabIndex=3D-1> <FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz=20 [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Andrew=20 Withy<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, 1 September 2007 7:05 = p.m.<BR><B>To:</B>=20 dq@dq.sf.org.nz<BR><B>Subject:</B> [dq] Renaissance Colour=20 Terms<BR></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV></DIV><!-- Converted from text/rtf format --> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is = a</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN = lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-nz> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>“</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT = face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>did-you-know</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>”</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN = lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> post. I</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT = face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>’</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN = lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ll assume most of you also=20 don</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN = lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>’</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT = face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>t care, but for those that do</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT = face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>…</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN = lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-nz></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The = wide range of=20 colour terms that we use in English appear to be quite recent=20 (</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN = lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>there are</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz> = <FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>similar finding</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>s</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN = lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> in other languages too). = Many colour terms=20 were introduced as dyes were found to consistently produce=20 a</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN = lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-nz> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>single = shade</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT = face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN = lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-nz> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This means that the vocab = was much more=20 limited</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN = lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-nz> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>in Renaissance = times</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz> = <FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>(</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN = lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz> = <FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>many philologists</FONT></SPAN><SPAN = lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz> = <FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>thought</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz> <FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>that colour=20 vision</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN = lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-nz> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>only</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz> = <FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>evolved in the last 2,000 years)</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT = face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN = lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> GMs with limited colour = vocabs (like=20 me)</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN = lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-nz> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>need not feel so bad = !</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN = lang=3Den-nz></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>-----------------------------------------</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN = lang=3Den-nz></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>Recorded</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz> <FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>colours up to=20 1500:</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Black  =20 700</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Green  =20 700</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Grey   =20 700</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>Red     700</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Yellow =20 700</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>White  =20 950</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Purple =20 975</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Gold  =20 1300</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Blue   =20 1300</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Brown  =20 1300</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Violet =20 1370</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Scarlet = 1386</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Crimson = 1400</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>Vermilion       = 1400</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Silver = 1481</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Azure  =20 1481</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Amber  =20 1500</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN = lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-nz></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>-----------------------------------------</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN = lang=3Den-nz></SPAN></P><BR> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And a = wider range of=20 standard colour terms:</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>-----------------------------------------</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN = lang=3Den-nz></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>Colour</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz> </SPAN><SPAN = lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN=20 lang=3Den-gb></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-nz> <FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>First=20 recorded</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Amber  =20 1500</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>Aqua(marine)    1862</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Azure  =20 1481</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Beige  =20 1879</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Black  =20 700</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Blue   =20 1300</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Brown  =20 1300</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Carmine = 1799</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>Charcoal       =20 1952</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>Chartreuse      = 1884</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Cream  =20 1872</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Crimson = 1400</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Emerald = 1598</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Fawn   =20 1881</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Fuchsia = 1923</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Gold  =20 1300</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Green  =20 700</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Grey   =20 700</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Indigo =20 1622</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>Lavender       =20 1882</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Lemon  =20 1796</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Lilac  =20 1791</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Lime   =20 1923</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Magenta = 1860</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Maroon =20 1791</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Mauve  =20 1860</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mustard = 1848</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Navy   =20 1840</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Olive  =20 1662</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Orange =20 1600</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Peach  =20 1848</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Pink   =20 1720</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Plum   =20 1878</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Puce   =20 1787</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Purple =20 975</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>Red     700</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Rose   =20 1530</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Rust   =20 1716</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Scarlet = 1386</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Silver = 1481</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>Tan     1749</FONT></SPAN></P> <P align=3Dleft><SPAN lang=3Den-nz><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>Tangerine       = 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Subject	Re: [dq] Renaissance Colour Terms
From	Cosmo
Date	Sun, 02 Sep 2007 15:53:08 +1200
Hmmm, you certainly don't see "Dying Spaniard" on colour wheels much these days... ben Kelsie McArthur wrote: > Really? Try this > http://ourworld.cs.com/_ht_a/constancefairfax/Claie.htm > or this > http://www.st-mike.org/lizcolor.html. > Kelsie > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] On > Behalf Of Andrew Withy > Sent: Saturday, 1 September 2007 7:05 p.m. > To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz > Subject: [dq] Renaissance Colour Terms > > This is a �did-you-know� post. I�ll assume most of you also don�t > care, but for those that do� > > The wide range of colour terms that we use in English appear to be > quite recent (there are similar findings in other languages too). > Many colour terms were introduced as dyes were found to > consistently produce a single shade. This means that the vocab was > much more limited in Renaissance times (and many philologists > thought that colour vision only evolved in the last 2,000 years). > GMs with limited colour vocabs (like me) need not feel so bad ! > > ----------------------------------------- > -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz --