SubjectRe: [dq] Questions about spells - Spell Barrier, and reducing MR on Triples
FromErrol Cavit
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The spell only affects magic that is in the process of being cast - the
general description in the first sentence doesn't give any actual effects.
The 'action' sentence says
"Any magic cast in such a way that a direct line drawn from the caster to
their target passes through the wall (from either side) has [%] chance of
having its energies dissipated."
 
Your maths on the roll is correct - it can normally be thought of as 40% +
3x(difference in rank).
However this roll is not a Magic Resistence check, so the 

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Michael Scott
Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2007 19:25
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: [dq] Questions about spells

 
Spell Barrier
 
I would conclude from the descriptor that anything/one passing through said
barrier has a chance of all spells in efect even permanant ones of falling
off, i.e wings, illusions, lesser etc.
 
I would presume that the -20% off resistence for a triple would be applyed
to the formula for any entity/object passing through.
 
Is this how everyone else sees it?
 
Also the formula: 40%[(+3/rank with ths spell)(-3/rank of target magic)]
 
this makes no sense to me
 
but I assume the intent was 40 + 3/rk of wall - 3/rk of magic = chance magic
will fall off
e.g rk 15 wall vs rk 5 wings is 40 + 45 - 15 = 70%
and the triple effect would just be a extrs 20 ontop giving a final chance
of 90% that the wings would pop.
 
Let me know if I have this completly wrong as people can attest from earlir
posts my maths leaves a lot to be desired LOL
 
TTFN
Michael Scott



Effects: The Adept creates a thin, glowing, translucent

wall which blocks the passage of magic. The

barrier is either 10 feet high and 20 feet long as a

wall, or 10 feet high and 5 feet in radius as a ring.

The Adept may increase any dimension-other than

thickness - by 1 foot per Rank. This barrier obeys

all of the usual rules for insubstantial walls. Any

magic cast in such a way that a direct line drawn

from the caster to their target passes through the wall

(from either side) has a 40% [(+ 3 / Rank with this

spell) (- 3 / Rank of the target magic)] chance of having

its energies dissipated. If a spell passes through

more than one Spell Barrier only a single roll for dissipation

should be made, with the highest dissipation

chance being used.


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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN class=218055819-04102007>The spell 
only affects magic that is in the process of being cast - the general 
description in the first sentence doesn't give any actual effects. The 'action' 
sentence says</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN class=218055819-04102007>"<FONT 
color=#000000>Any </FONT>magic cast in such a way that a direct line drawn from 
the caster to their target passes through the wall (from either side) has [%] 
chance of having its energies dissipated."</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN 
class=218055819-04102007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN class=218055819-04102007>Your maths on 
the roll is correct - it can normally be thought of as 40% + 3x(difference in 
rank).</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN class=218055819-04102007>However this 
roll is not a Magic Resistence check, so the </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman">-----Original 
  Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz 
  [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]<B>On Behalf Of</B> Michael 
  Scott<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 4 October 2007 19:25<BR><B>To:</B> 
  dq@dq.sf.org.nz<BR><B>Subject:</B> [dq] Questions about 
  spells<BR></FONT></DIV>&nbsp;<BR><STRONG>Spell 
  Barrier</STRONG><BR><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;<BR>I would conclude from&nbsp;the 
  descriptor that anything/one passing through said barrier has a chance of all 
  spells in efect even permanant ones of falling off, i.e wings, illusions, 
  lesser etc.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>I would presume that the -20% off resistence for a 
  triple would be applyed to the formula for any entity/object passing 
  through.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Is this how everyone else sees it?<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Also the 
  formula: <STRONG>40%[(+3/rank with ths spell)(-3/rank of target 
  magic)]</STRONG><BR><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;<BR>this makes no sense to 
  me<BR>&nbsp;<BR>but I assume the intent was 40 + 3/rk of&nbsp;wall - 3/rk of 
  magic = chance magic will fall off<BR>e.g rk 15 wall vs rk 5 wings is 40 + 45 
  - 15 = 70%<BR>and the triple effect would just be a extrs 20 ontop giving a 
  final chance of 90% that the wings would pop.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Let me know if I 
  have this completly wrong as people can attest from earlir posts my maths 
  leaves a lot to be desired LOL<BR>&nbsp;<BR>TTFN<BR>Michael Scott<BR><BR><FONT 
  face=NimbusRomNo9L-ReguItal size=1>
  <P align=left>Effects: </FONT><FONT face=NimbusRomNo9L-Regu size=1>The Adept 
  creates a thin, glowing, translucent</P>
  <P align=left>wall which blocks the passage of magic. The</P>
  <P align=left>barrier is either 10 feet high and 20 feet long as a</P>
  <P align=left>wall, or 10 feet high and 5 feet in radius as a ring.</P>
  <P align=left>The Adept may increase any dimension-other than</P>
  <P align=left>thickness - by 1 foot per Rank. This barrier obeys</P>
  <P align=left>all of the usual rules for insubstantial walls. Any</P>
  <P align=left>magic cast in such a way that a direct line drawn</P>
  <P align=left>from the caster to their target passes through the wall</P>
  <P align=left>(from either side) has a 40% [(+ 3 / Rank with this</P>
  <P align=left>spell) (- 3 / Rank of the target magic)] chance of having</P>
  <P align=left>its energies dissipated. If a spell passes through</P>
  <P align=left>more than one Spell Barrier only a single roll for 
  dissipation</P>
  <P align=left>should be made, with the highest dissipation</P>
  <P>chance being used.</P></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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SubjectRe: [dq] Questions about spells - Spell Barrier, and reducing MR on Triples
FromErrol Cavit
DateFri, 5 Oct 2007 09:53:15 +1300 
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The spell only affects magic that is in the process of being cast - the
general description in the first sentence doesn't give any actual effects.
The 'action' sentence says
"Any magic cast in such a way that a direct line drawn from the caster to
their target passes through the wall (from either side) has [%] chance of
having its energies dissipated."
 
Your maths on the roll is correct - it can normally be thought of as 40% +
3x(difference in rank).
However this roll is not a Magic Resistence check, so the 

-----Original Message-----
From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On Behalf Of
Michael Scott
Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2007 19:25
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: [dq] Questions about spells

 
Spell Barrier
 
I would conclude from the descriptor that anything/one passing through said
barrier has a chance of all spells in efect even permanant ones of falling
off, i.e wings, illusions, lesser etc.
 
I would presume that the -20% off resistence for a triple would be applyed
to the formula for any entity/object passing through.
 
Is this how everyone else sees it?
 
Also the formula: 40%[(+3/rank with ths spell)(-3/rank of target magic)]
 
this makes no sense to me
 
but I assume the intent was 40 + 3/rk of wall - 3/rk of magic = chance magic
will fall off
e.g rk 15 wall vs rk 5 wings is 40 + 45 - 15 = 70%
and the triple effect would just be a extrs 20 ontop giving a final chance
of 90% that the wings would pop.
 
Let me know if I have this completly wrong as people can attest from earlir
posts my maths leaves a lot to be desired LOL
 
TTFN
Michael Scott



Effects: The Adept creates a thin, glowing, translucent

wall which blocks the passage of magic. The

barrier is either 10 feet high and 20 feet long as a

wall, or 10 feet high and 5 feet in radius as a ring.

The Adept may increase any dimension-other than

thickness - by 1 foot per Rank. This barrier obeys

all of the usual rules for insubstantial walls. Any

magic cast in such a way that a direct line drawn

from the caster to their target passes through the wall

(from either side) has a 40% [(+ 3 / Rank with this

spell) (- 3 / Rank of the target magic)] chance of having

its energies dissipated. If a spell passes through

more than one Spell Barrier only a single roll for dissipation

should be made, with the highest dissipation

chance being used.


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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN class=218055819-04102007>The spell 
only affects magic that is in the process of being cast - the general 
description in the first sentence doesn't give any actual effects. The 'action' 
sentence says</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN class=218055819-04102007>"<FONT 
color=#000000>Any </FONT>magic cast in such a way that a direct line drawn from 
the caster to their target passes through the wall (from either side) has [%] 
chance of having its energies dissipated."</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN 
class=218055819-04102007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN class=218055819-04102007>Your maths on 
the roll is correct - it can normally be thought of as 40% + 3x(difference in 
rank).</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN class=218055819-04102007>However this 
roll is not a Magic Resistence check, so the </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman">-----Original 
  Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz 
  [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]<B>On Behalf Of</B> Michael 
  Scott<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 4 October 2007 19:25<BR><B>To:</B> 
  dq@dq.sf.org.nz<BR><B>Subject:</B> [dq] Questions about 
  spells<BR></FONT></DIV>&nbsp;<BR><STRONG>Spell 
  Barrier</STRONG><BR><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;<BR>I would conclude from&nbsp;the 
  descriptor that anything/one passing through said barrier has a chance of all 
  spells in efect even permanant ones of falling off, i.e wings, illusions, 
  lesser etc.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>I would presume that the -20% off resistence for a 
  triple would be applyed to the formula for any entity/object passing 
  through.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Is this how everyone else sees it?<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Also the 
  formula: <STRONG>40%[(+3/rank with ths spell)(-3/rank of target 
  magic)]</STRONG><BR><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;<BR>this makes no sense to 
  me<BR>&nbsp;<BR>but I assume the intent was 40 + 3/rk of&nbsp;wall - 3/rk of 
  magic = chance magic will fall off<BR>e.g rk 15 wall vs rk 5 wings is 40 + 45 
  - 15 = 70%<BR>and the triple effect would just be a extrs 20 ontop giving a 
  final chance of 90% that the wings would pop.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Let me know if I 
  have this completly wrong as people can attest from earlir posts my maths 
  leaves a lot to be desired LOL<BR>&nbsp;<BR>TTFN<BR>Michael Scott<BR><BR><FONT 
  face=NimbusRomNo9L-ReguItal size=1>
  <P align=left>Effects: </FONT><FONT face=NimbusRomNo9L-Regu size=1>The Adept 
  creates a thin, glowing, translucent</P>
  <P align=left>wall which blocks the passage of magic. The</P>
  <P align=left>barrier is either 10 feet high and 20 feet long as a</P>
  <P align=left>wall, or 10 feet high and 5 feet in radius as a ring.</P>
  <P align=left>The Adept may increase any dimension-other than</P>
  <P align=left>thickness - by 1 foot per Rank. This barrier obeys</P>
  <P align=left>all of the usual rules for insubstantial walls. Any</P>
  <P align=left>magic cast in such a way that a direct line drawn</P>
  <P align=left>from the caster to their target passes through the wall</P>
  <P align=left>(from either side) has a 40% [(+ 3 / Rank with this</P>
  <P align=left>spell) (- 3 / Rank of the target magic)] chance of having</P>
  <P align=left>its energies dissipated. If a spell passes through</P>
  <P align=left>more than one Spell Barrier only a single roll for 
  dissipation</P>
  <P align=left>should be made, with the highest dissipation</P>
  <P>chance being used.</P></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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Subject[dq] RE dq Questions about spells - Spell Barrier and reducing MR on Triples.txt
FromErrol Cavit
DateFri, 5 Oct 2007 10:07:42 +1300 
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[Ga a k, sorry, odd things are happenning in my mail]
 
The spell only affects magic that is in the process of being cast - the
general description in the first sentence doesn't give any actual effects.
The 'action' sentence says
"Any magic cast in such a way that a direct line drawn from the caster to
their target passes through the wall (from either side) has [%] chance of
having its energies dissipated."
 
Your maths on the roll is correct - it can normally be thought of as 40% +
3x(difference in rank).
However this roll is not a Magic Resistence check, so the
"Whenever a spell is cast for triple effect, the Mage has the option of ...
decreasing the target's Magic Resistance by 20."
does not apply.
Note that the other two Namer effects that use this mechanism use 50% + 3x
difference.
 

While checking the wording for Triples, I noticed that technically you can
only reduce the MR of a spell's targets. Besides the Wall-type spells, there
are direct-attack type spells that are target: area (e.g. D-flames).
 
Am I right in thinking that people normally play it that such spells can
reduce the MR of those affected by the area effect? How about spells with
non-immediate durations?
 
Should we tweak the wording?
 
Cheers
Errol
 
 
 
 
 
 
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From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz <mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz>
[mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On Behalf Of Michael Scott
Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2007 19:25
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz <mailto:dq@dq.sf.org.nz> 
Subject: [dq] Questions about spells
 
 
Spell Barrier
 
I would conclude from the descriptor that anything/one passing through said
barrier has a chance of all spells in efect even permanant ones of falling
off, i.e wings, illusions, lesser etc.
 
I would presume that the -20% off resistence for a triple would be applyed
to the formula for any entity/object passing through.
 
Is this how everyone else sees it?
 
Also the formula: 40%[(+3/rank with ths spell)(-3/rank of target magic)]
 
this makes no sense to me
 
but I assume the intent was 40 + 3/rk of wall - 3/rk of magic = chance magic
will fall off
e.g rk 15 wall vs rk 5 wings is 40 + 45 - 15 = 70%
and the triple effect would just be a extrs 20 ontop giving a final chance
of 90% that the wings would pop.
 
Let me know if I have this completly wrong as people can attest from earlir
posts my maths leaves a lot to be desired LOL
 
TTFN
Michael Scott
 

Effects: The Adept creates a thin, glowing, translucent
wall which blocks the passage of magic. The
barrier is either 10 feet high and 20 feet long as a
wall, or 10 feet high and 5 feet in radius as a ring.
The Adept may increase any dimension-other than
thickness - by 1 foot per Rank. This barrier obeys
all of the usual rules for insubstantial walls. Any
magic cast in such a way that a direct line drawn
from the caster to their target passes through the wall
(from either side) has a 40% [(+ 3 / Rank with this
spell) (- 3 / Rank of the target magic)] chance of having
its energies dissipated. If a spell passes through
more than one Spell Barrier only a single roll for dissipation
should be made, with the highest dissipation
chance being used.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>[Ga<SPAN 
class=156290421-04102007>&nbsp;a&nbsp;</SPAN>k,&nbsp;<SPAN 
class=156290421-04102007>sorry,&nbsp;</SPAN>odd things are happenning in my 
mail]</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>The spell only affects magic that is in the 
process of being cast - the general description in the first sentence doesn't 
give any actual effects. The 'action' sentence says<BR>"Any magic cast in such a 
way that a direct line drawn from the caster to their target passes through the 
wall (from either side) has [%] chance of having its energies 
dissipated."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Your maths on the roll is correct - it can 
normally be thought of as 40% + 3x(difference in rank).<BR>However this roll is 
not a Magic Resistence check, so the<BR>"Whenever a spell is cast for triple 
effect, the Mage has the option of ... decreasing the target's Magic Resistance 
by 20."<BR>does not apply.<BR>Note that the other two Namer effects that use 
this mechanism use 50% + 3x difference.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>
<DIV><BR>While checking the wording for Triples, I noticed that technically you 
can only reduce the MR of a spell's targets. Besides the Wall-type spells, there 
are direct-attack type spells that are target: area (e.g. D-flames).</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Am I right in thinking that people normally play it that such spells can 
reduce the MR of those affected by the area effect? How about spells with 
non-immediate durations?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Should we tweak the wording?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Cheers<BR>Errol</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;<BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <A 
href="mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz">dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz</A> 
[mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On Behalf Of Michael Scott<BR>Sent: Thursday, 4 
October 2007 19:25<BR>To: <A 
href="mailto:dq@dq.sf.org.nz">dq@dq.sf.org.nz</A><BR>Subject: [dq] Questions 
about spells</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;<BR>Spell Barrier<BR>&nbsp;<BR>I would conclude from the descriptor 
that anything/one passing through said barrier has a chance of all spells in 
efect even permanant ones of falling off, i.e wings, illusions, lesser 
etc.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>I would presume that the -20% off resistence for a triple 
would be applyed to the formula for any entity/object passing 
through.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Is this how everyone else sees it?<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Also the 
formula: 40%[(+3/rank with ths spell)(-3/rank of target 
magic)]<BR>&nbsp;<BR>this makes no sense to me<BR>&nbsp;<BR>but I assume the 
intent was 40 + 3/rk of wall - 3/rk of magic = chance magic will fall off<BR>e.g 
rk 15 wall vs rk 5 wings is 40 + 45 - 15 = 70%<BR>and the triple effect would 
just be a extrs 20 ontop giving a final chance of 90% that the wings would 
pop.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Let me know if I have this completly wrong as people can 
attest from earlir posts my maths leaves a lot to be desired 
LOL<BR>&nbsp;<BR>TTFN<BR>Michael Scott</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><BR>Effects: The Adept creates a thin, glowing, translucent<BR>wall which 
blocks the passage of magic. The<BR>barrier is either 10 feet high and 20 feet 
long as a<BR>wall, or 10 feet high and 5 feet in radius as a ring.<BR>The Adept 
may increase any dimension-other than<BR>thickness - by 1 foot per Rank. This 
barrier obeys<BR>all of the usual rules for insubstantial walls. Any<BR>magic 
cast in such a way that a direct line drawn<BR>from the caster to their target 
passes through the wall<BR>(from either side) has a 40% [(+ 3 / Rank with 
this<BR>spell) (- 3 / Rank of the target magic)] chance of having<BR>its 
energies dissipated. If a spell passes through<BR>more than one Spell Barrier 
only a single roll for dissipation<BR>should be made, with the highest 
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FromMartin Dickson
DateFri, 5 Oct 2007 11:30:11 +1300
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Date: Oct 5, 2007 12:19 AM
Subject: Re: [dq] Questions about spells
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz

On 10/4/07, Michael Scott <big_mac_kd@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>  *Trollskin*
> **
> The spell descriptor says target entity but .......  What if the target is
> a mother or a symbiote?
>

As you surmise LOS rules would normally apply.... GMs may of course rule on
best dramatic effect. :)

Has the wicca bless/curse unborn child run into this problem?
>

No, the target of that spell is the pregnant mother (stated explicitly).

*Spell Barrier*
> **
> I would conclude from the descriptor that anything/one passing through
> said barrier has a chance of all spells in efect even permanant ones of
> falling off, i.e wings, illusions, lesser etc.
>

No.

"Any magic cast in such a way that a direct line drawn from the caster to
their target passes through the wall (from either side) has a 40% [(+3/Rank
with this spell) (-3/Rank of the target magic)] chance of having its
energies dissipated."

It has a chance of dispelling magic before it gets to its target. If you are
on one side an the Mage casting wings on you is on the other side then it
might stop the wings from coming into effect on you.  If you walk through it
wearing wings it has no effect.

I would presume that the -20% off resistence for a triple would be applyed
> to the formula for any entity/object passing through.
>

Not as Triple is written.  The -20 is only applied to the target of the
tripled spell's attempt to resist. Spell Barrier itself is not resistable.
Not to say that the way you read it is a bad idea, but it's not the strict
reading of the rule.


> Also the formula: *40%[(+3/rank with ths spell)(-3/rank of target magic)]*
> **
> this makes no sense to me
>
> but I assume the intent was 40 + 3/rk of wall - 3/rk of magic = chance
> magic will fall off
> e.g rk 15 wall vs rk 5 wings is 40 + 45 - 15 = 70%
>

Yup, that's exactly what the formula means. :)

Cheers,
Martin

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Resend, list ate original.<br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br><span class="gmail_quote">From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Martin Dickson</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:martin.dickson@gmail.com">martin.dickson@gmail.com
</a>&gt;<br>Date: Oct 5, 2007 12:19 AM<br>Subject: Re: [dq] Questions about spells<br>To: <a href="mailto:dq@dq.sf.org.nz">dq@dq.sf.org.nz</a><br><br></span><span class="q">On 10/4/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Michael Scott
</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:big_mac_kd@hotmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">big_mac_kd@hotmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span><div><span class="q"><span class="gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">





<div>
<strong>Trollskin</strong><br>
<strong></strong>&nbsp;<br>
The spell descriptor says target entity but .......&nbsp; What if the target is a mother or a symbiote?</div></blockquote></span><div><br>As you surmise LOS rules would normally apply.... GMs may of course rule on best dramatic effect. :) 
<br></div><span class="q"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div>
Has the wicca bless/curse unborn&nbsp;child run into this problem?</div></blockquote></span><div><br>No, the target of that spell is the pregnant mother (stated explicitly). <br></div><span class="q"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">

<div><strong>Spell Barrier</strong><br>
<strong></strong>&nbsp;<br>
I would conclude from&nbsp;the descriptor that anything/one passing through said barrier has a chance of all spells in efect even permanant ones of falling off, i.e wings, illusions, lesser etc.</div></blockquote></span><div>
<br>No.
<br><br>&quot;Any magic cast in such a way that a direct line drawn from the caster
to
their target passes through the wall (from either side) has a 40%
[(+3/Rank
with this spell) (-3/Rank of the target magic)] chance of having its
energies
dissipated.&quot;<br><br>It has a chance of dispelling magic before it gets to its target. If you are on one side an the Mage casting wings on you is on the other side then it might stop the wings from coming into effect on you.&nbsp; If you walk through it wearing wings it has no effect.
<br></div><span class="q"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div>
I would presume that the -20% off resistence for a triple would be applyed to the formula for any entity/object passing through.</div></blockquote></span><div><br>Not as Triple is written.&nbsp; The -20 is only applied to the target of the tripled spell&#39;s attempt to resist. Spell Barrier itself is not resistable.&nbsp; Not to say that the way you read it is a bad idea, but it&#39;s not the strict reading of the rule.
<br></div><span class="q">&nbsp;<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div>
Also the formula: <strong>40%[(+3/rank with ths spell)(-3/rank of target magic)]</strong><br>
<strong></strong>&nbsp;<br>
this makes no sense to me<br>
&nbsp;<br>
but I assume the intent was 40 + 3/rk of&nbsp;wall - 3/rk of magic = chance magic will fall off<br>
e.g rk 15 wall vs rk 5 wings is 40 + 45 - 15 = 70%</div></blockquote></span><div><br>Yup, that&#39;s exactly what the formula means. :)<br><br>Cheers,<br>Martin<br></div></div><br>

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Subject[dq] Golems
FromRPer 4eva
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Do golems have to be attuned to the language they'll be given commands in?
Can adventuring skills be one attunement or do they need flying and climbing
and swimming all seperatly? Can I give a golem a language I don't have? What
rank are a golems skills? Can I give a golem a skill I don't have?

Dylan

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<div>Do golems have to be attuned to the language they&#39;ll be given commands in? Can adventuring skills be one attunement or do they need flying and climbing and swimming all seperatly? Can I give a golem a language I don&#39;t have? What rank are a golems skills? Can I give a golem a skill I don&#39;t have?
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<div>Dylan</div>

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FromHelen Saggers
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See the golem page on the wiki,
Stephen and I have it there just to answer most of these questions.
Each adventuring skill is separate just like it is for you.
As for skills or languages you don't have, do you have someone present =
for the ritual with those skills?

Helen
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SubjectRe: [dq] Racial Modifiers
FromJohanna and Hamish
DateFri, 5 Oct 2007 15:27:55 +1300
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I was curious at the guild meeting about about the outcome of the votes.

 

Most people wanted RM changed.  (was it 7 to 4?)

 

Almost every one prefered option 3 (which became option 2)  which was; the
magic number of 500,000 raw ep changes your ep mod to 1.0 from there after.

 

But we voted 6 to 5 not to create the change.

 

Could we hear from people who voted for option 3 but against actually
crateing a change (or anyone).  Someone put forward that changing the magic
number formula to an ep mod of 1.1 rather than 1.0 would make it more
accecptable.  I wondered afterwards if we had voted on this alternative at
the meeting weather it would have been accecptable.

 

It would be good to take this conversation forward I recon.

 

Hamish 

 

 

  _____  

From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] On Behalf Of
Martin Dickson
Sent: Thursday, 4 mmmm 2007 2:40
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: Re: [dq] Racial Modifiers

 

On 10/4/07, Jonathan Bean <jonathanB@timedisciple.com> wrote:

What are people views on the Racial Modifier situation?


I prefer the proposal of dropping the RM in 0.1 steps towards 1.0, with the
higher steps costing less than the lower. (i.e reducing from 1.5 to 1.4
costs less than the final drop from 1.1 to 1.0)

Cheers,
Martin



 

 


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about
about the outcome of the votes.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Book Antiqua"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua"'>Most people wanted RM changed.&nbsp; =
(was it 7 to
4?)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Book Antiqua"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Book Antiqua"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua"'>Almost every one prefered option 3 =
(which
became option 2)&nbsp; which was; the magic number of 500,000 raw ep =
changes your ep
mod to 1.0 from there after.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Book Antiqua"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua"'>But we voted 6 to 5 not to create the
change.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Book Antiqua"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua"'>Could we hear from people who voted =
for
option 3 but against actually crateing a change (or anyone).&nbsp; =
Someone put
forward that changing the magic number formula to an ep mod of 1.1 =
rather than
1.0 would make it more accecptable. &nbsp;I wondered afterwards if we =
had voted on
this alternative at the meeting weather it would have been =
accecptable.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Book Antiqua"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Book Antiqua"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua"'>It would be good to take this =
conversation
forward I recon.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Book Antiqua"><span =
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dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] <b><span =
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 4 mmmm =
2007 2:40<br>
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [dq] Racial =
Modifiers</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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I prefer the proposal of dropping the RM in 0.1 steps towards 1.0, with =
the
higher steps costing less than the lower. (i.e reducing from 1.5 to 1.4 =
costs
less than the final drop from 1.1 to 1.0)<br>
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Cheers,<br>
Martin<br>
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FromMartin Dickson
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On 10/4/07, Errol Cavit <ecavit@tollnz.co.nz> wrote:
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>
>
> *On Behalf Of* Martin Dickson
> **
>
> I prefer the proposal of dropping the RM in 0.1 steps towards 1.0, with
> the higher steps costing less than the lower. (i.e reducing from 1.5 to
> 1.4 costs less than the final drop from 1.1 to 1.0)
>
> Can you please expand on why you prefer this to the 'earn x00,000EP and
> the RM goes away in one step' approach?
>

Because it is mint-flavoured and green. :-)  Seriously.... I just prefer a
smoother transition.

Do you expect the variable step approach to mean that those on higher
> starting RMs 'pay' more than they would under the above single-step
> approach?
>

Maybe, not a requirement tho.... depends.

Jono asked for preferences, I'm expressing one.

Cheers,
Martin

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On 10/4/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Errol Cavit</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:ecavit@tollnz.co.nz">ecavit@tollnz.co.nz</a>&gt; wrote:<div><span class="gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">






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  <div><font face="Times New Roman" size="2"><b>On Behalf Of</b> Martin 
  Dickson<br><b></b></font></div></span><div><span class="e" id="q_11568f297d21e202_2"><div><br>I prefer the proposal of dropping the RM in 0.1 steps towards 1.0, 
  with the higher steps costing less than the lower. (i.e reducing from 1.5 to 
  1.4 costs less than the final drop from 1.1 to 
  1.0)<br><br></div></span></div></blockquote>
<div><span></span><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2">C<span>an you please expand 
on why you prefer this to the &#39;earn x00,000EP and the RM goes away in one step&#39; 
approach?</span></font></font></font></div></div></blockquote><div><br>Because it is mint-flavoured and green. :-)&nbsp; Seriously.... I just prefer a smoother transition.<br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span>Do you expect the variable step approach to mean that 
those on higher starting RMs &#39;pay&#39; more than they would under the above 
single-step approach?</span></font></font></font></div></div></blockquote><div><br><span>Maybe, not a requirement tho.... depends.<br><br>Jono asked for preferences, I&#39;m expressing one.<br><br>Cheers,<br>Martin<br></span>
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SubjectRe: [dq] Racial Modifiers
FromCosmo
DateFri, 05 Oct 2007 16:26:16 +1300
I also favour a set amount of raw experience earnt meaning that your RM drops to
1.0, though I'm not against that amount being set by the species in question.

I feel that once a character has accrued half a million EP or thereabouts (the
equivalent of 25 medium adventures?), the restrictions and abilties of original
race are likely be supplanted or overshadowed by items and abilties gained on
those adventures, and the player will have had ample opportunity to either
circumvent or wallow in the challanges presented by playing a particular species.

Just as long as my Elf doesn't have to give back her exaggerated sense of
entitlement, which the EM modifier did wonders to propagate, it's all the same to me.




ben

PS Any thoughts on the Undead factor?


On Thu Oct  4 14:03 , Jonathan Bean <jonathanB@timedisciple.com> sent:

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>RE: [dq] Racial Modifiers - (Retrospective)
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>Hi all,
>
> 
>
>At the last gods meeting before the guild
>meeting we voted on the Racial Modifiers issue. We voted to consider the
>changes proposed and then on the 4th vote we voted to not move
>forward with any item and leave it for more discussion before the next gods
>meeting ahead of the next guild meeting.
>
>Keith, can I get you to post the records
>of what we voted on, and the votes please to the list (maybe again but I couldn’t
>find it if you already posted it).
>
>What are people views on the Racial Modifier
>situation?
>
>My views are I like the 500,000 exp to the
>racial modifier and then dropping to a 1.0 modifier after that. I like this
>option as it is simple, clear and clean.
>
>My general intention is - I am aiming for a
>vote representing the ‘middle ground view on Racial Modifiers’ (as
>best I can make out) on Racial Modifiers for the next Gods meeting.
>


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SubjectRe: [dq] Racial Modifiers
FromJacqui Smith
DateFri, 05 Oct 2007 17:21:06 +1300
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At 03:27 p.m. 5/10/2007, you wrote:

>Almost every one prefered option 3 (which became option 2)  which 
>was; the magic number of 500,000 raw ep changes your ep mod to 1.0 
>from there after.

As it happens the option which Martin suggested - and was not on the 
original list - was basically what I was thinking was best by the meeting.
We only had flat amount or decreasing amounts from 1.5 to 1.1, not increasing.

Like Martin I'm keen to see a smoother transition and I think this 
way gives a fairer progression.

Jacqui

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SubjectRe: [dq] Racial Modifiers
FromMichael Woodhams
DateFri, 05 Oct 2007 16:25:59 +1200
On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 14:46, Martin Dickson wrote:
> On 10/4/07, Errol Cavit <ecavit@tollnz.co.nz> wrote:

>                 
>         Can you please expand on why you prefer this to the 'earn
>         x00,000EP and the RM goes away in one step' approach?
> 
> Because it is mint-flavoured and green. :-)  Seriously.... I just
> prefer a smoother transition.
> 

Because the transition from 1.5 to 1.0 in one go is too abrupt. It is
like not being allowed to get any use from a spell until you've put
60,000xp into it, and then suddenly you have it at rank 20.

Because more, smaller steps gives you a reachable goal. If I have a
giant which I play 2 times a year with average xp award of 25,000, it
will take 10 years before my RM goes down. That looks like forever, and
I may well not play DQ that long. By contrast, if I (e.g.) go from 1.5
to 1.4 at 100,000xp, that is only two years before *something* happens.

However, I'm not voting.

Michael W.


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SubjectRe: [dq] RE dq Questions about spells - Spell Barrier and reducing MR on Triples.txt
FromMichael Scott
DateFri, 5 Oct 2007 17:19:48 +1200
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To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz



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TTFN
Michael Scott
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gh and 5 feet in radius as a ring.The Adept may increase any dimension-othe=
r thanthickness - by 1 foot per Rank.
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ir target passes through the wall(from either side) has a 40% [(+ 3 / Rank =
with thisspell) (- 3 / Rank of the target magic)] chance of havingits energ=
ies dissipated.
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If a spell passes through more than one Spell Barrier only a single roll fo=
r dissipationshould be made, with the highest dissipation chance being used=
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