I think these are both minor issues and if there is no contention then I think they should be
added to errata for the next rule book.

If anyone disagrees then please say so and I'll raise them as rules changes and candidates for
Fast Tracking.

Cheers, Stephen.

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 Extinguish Fire Spell (G-2)
 Range: 15 feet + 15 / Rank
 Effects: ... in a 10 foot (+ 10 / Rank) sphere.
 All the volume affected must be within range of the spell.

I believe that the 10' sphere is 10' diameter not 10' radius si it should read:
 ... in a 10 foot (+ 10 / Rank) diameter sphere.

 Fireproofing (G-5)
 Effects: ... also protected against smoke effects .., hypothermia and sunstroke.

I believe this is meant to be hyperthermia (over heating) not hypothermia (freezing), but perhaps
it could be changed to the less modern/scientific term heatstroke.


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Don't errata to the rule book get voted on anyway?
Either as being errata or as part of the vote to except the changed, up 
dated rule book into use as the rule book.
And the Hyper, Hypo seems to be a clear error of meaning so go add it to the 
list.

As for the diameter thing it's more a clarification, and probably needs to 
be tabled for a vote as it's more than a misspelling or bad gramma but then 
again if there are no objections its something that can be left to vote on 
at rulebook time.

Helen

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stephen Martin" <stephenm@aklnz.net>
To: <dq@dq.sf.org.nz>
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 11:08 AM
Subject: [dq] Extinguish Fire and Fire Proofing - Minor Fixes


I think these are both minor issues and if there is no contention then I 
think they should be
added to errata for the next rule book.

If anyone disagrees then please say so and I'll raise them as rules changes 
and candidates for
Fast Tracking.

Cheers, Stephen.

-----------

 Extinguish Fire Spell (G-2)
 Range: 15 feet + 15 / Rank
 Effects: ... in a 10 foot (+ 10 / Rank) sphere.
 All the volume affected must be within range of the spell.

I believe that the 10' sphere is 10' diameter not 10' radius si it should 
read:
 ... in a 10 foot (+ 10 / Rank) diameter sphere.

 Fireproofing (G-5)
 Effects: ... also protected against smoke effects .., hypothermia and 
sunstroke.

I believe this is meant to be hyperthermia (over heating) not hypothermia 
(freezing), but perhaps
it could be changed to the less modern/scientific term heatstroke.


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For 2006 I moved a block vote to ratify straight-out corrections (that I
found in the course of editing), and also very quickly ran through anything
that I thought could be perceived as a rule change and got confirmation.

I don't see any need to wait for the next rulebook production process to
discuss (and vote on, if required) any little issues that crop up.

I try to track things at
http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/Noticed_Rulebook_Issues
to make it easier for whoever does it next time.
Due to looking over the e-list from last September, I notice we never
resolved our discussions about stacking/queuing from that time (to open a
can of worms).

Cheers
Errol


-----Original Message-----
From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz]On Behalf Of
Helen Saggers
Sent: Monday, 10 March 2008 11:30
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: Re: [dq] Extinguish Fire and Fire Proofing - Minor Fixes


Don't errata to the rule book get voted on anyway?
Either as being errata or as part of the vote to except the changed, up 
dated rule book into use as the rule book.
And the Hyper, Hypo seems to be a clear error of meaning so go add it to the

list.

As for the diameter thing it's more a clarification, and probably needs to 
be tabled for a vote as it's more than a misspelling or bad gramma but then 
again if there are no objections its something that can be left to vote on 
at rulebook time.

Helen

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stephen Martin" <stephenm@aklnz.net>
To: <dq@dq.sf.org.nz>
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 11:08 AM
Subject: [dq] Extinguish Fire and Fire Proofing - Minor Fixes


I think these are both minor issues and if there is no contention then I 
think they should be
added to errata for the next rule book.

If anyone disagrees then please say so and I'll raise them as rules changes 
and candidates for
Fast Tracking.

Cheers, Stephen.

-----------

 Extinguish Fire Spell (G-2)
 Range: 15 feet + 15 / Rank
 Effects: ... in a 10 foot (+ 10 / Rank) sphere.
 All the volume affected must be within range of the spell.

I believe that the 10' sphere is 10' diameter not 10' radius si it should 
read:
 ... in a 10 foot (+ 10 / Rank) diameter sphere.

 Fireproofing (G-5)
 Effects: ... also protected against smoke effects .., hypothermia and 
sunstroke.

I believe this is meant to be hyperthermia (over heating) not hypothermia 
(freezing), but perhaps
it could be changed to the less modern/scientific term heatstroke.


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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>For 2006 I moved a block vote to ratify straight-out =
corrections (that I found in the course of editing), and also very =
quickly ran through anything that I thought could be perceived as a =
rule change and got confirmation.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I don't see any need to wait for the next rulebook =
production process to discuss (and vote on, if required) any little =
issues that crop up.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I try to track things at <A =
HREF=3D"http://www.dragonquest.org.nz/dqwiki/index.php/Noticed_Rulebook_=
Issues" =
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>to make it easier for whoever does it next =
time.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Due to looking over the e-list from last September, =
I notice we never resolved our discussions about stacking/queuing from =
that time (to open a can of worms).</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cheers</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Errol</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz">mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz</A>]O=
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Helen Saggers</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Re: [dq] Extinguish Fire and Fire Proofing =
- Minor Fixes</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Don't errata to the rule book get voted on =
anyway?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Either as being errata or as part of the vote to =
except the changed, up </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>dated rule book into use as the rule book.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>And the Hyper, Hypo seems to be a clear error of =
meaning so go add it to the </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>list.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>As for the diameter thing it's more a clarification, =
and probably needs to </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>be tabled for a vote as it's more than a misspelling =
or bad gramma but then </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>again if there are no objections its something that =
can be left to vote on </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>at rulebook time.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Helen</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: &quot;Stephen Martin&quot; =
&lt;stephenm@aklnz.net&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: &lt;dq@dq.sf.org.nz&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 11:08 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: [dq] Extinguish Fire and Fire Proofing - =
Minor Fixes</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I think these are both minor issues and if there is =
no contention then I </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>think they should be</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>added to errata for the next rule book.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>If anyone disagrees then please say so and I'll raise =
them as rules changes </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>and candidates for</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Fast Tracking.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cheers, Stephen.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;Extinguish Fire Spell (G-2)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;Range: 15 feet + 15 / Rank</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;Effects: ... in a 10 foot (+ 10 / Rank) =
sphere.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;All the volume affected must be within range =
of the spell.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I believe that the 10' sphere is 10' diameter not 10' =
radius si it should </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>read:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;... in a 10 foot (+ 10 / Rank) diameter =
sphere.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;Fireproofing (G-5)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;Effects: ... also protected against smoke =
effects .., hypothermia and </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>sunstroke.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I believe this is meant to be hyperthermia (over =
heating) not hypothermia </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>(freezing), but perhaps</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>it could be changed to the less modern/scientific =
term heatstroke.</FONT>
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At 11:29 a.m. 10/03/2008, Helen Saggers wrote:
>Don't errata to the rule book get voted on anyway?
>Either as being errata or as part of the vote to except the changed, 
>up dated rule book into use as the rule book.
>And the Hyper, Hypo seems to be a clear error of meaning so go add 
>it to the list.

It's an erratum all right.... I've found a Fire College draft which reads:
"The spell protects the target from all non-magical fire and heat 
effects. An entity target is also protected against smoke effects 
(including smoke inhalation), hyperthermia and sunstroke."
Somebody must have decided that was a typo, and "corrected" it. 
Heatstroke works just fine by me.

>As for the diameter thing it's more a clarification, and probably 
>needs to be tabled for a vote as it's more than a misspelling or bad 
>gramma but then again if there are no objections its something that 
>can be left to vote on at rulebook time.

Actually, the same draft read:
"When successfully cast, this spell will extinguish all fire within a 
chosen volume equivalent to a cube with each side being 5ft + 5/Rank, 
all of which must be a contiguous closed volume and must be within 
the spell's range.  On a multiple effect this volume may be doubled 
or tripled. This spell will not extinguish magical fire."
In a later draft this was increased to"
"When successfully cast, this spell will extinguish all fire in a 
cube up to 10ft + 10/Rank on a side. All the volume effected must be 
within range of the spell. On a multiple effect this volume may be 
doubled or tripled. The Adept may always choose to extinguish a 
smaller volume of Fire than their maximum by rank."

The confusion began when somebody decided that round things were more 
magical than square things, I guess....

Jacqui


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My version of MS Word (as an example) doesn't have hyperthermia in its
dictionary.

Almost certainly an editing error somewhere along the line.

Cheers
Errol

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Jacqui Smith
Sent: Monday, 10 March 2008 12:34
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
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At 11:29 a.m. 10/03/2008, Helen Saggers wrote:
>Don't errata to the rule book get voted on anyway?
>Either as being errata or as part of the vote to except the changed, 
>up dated rule book into use as the rule book.
>And the Hyper, Hypo seems to be a clear error of meaning so go add 
>it to the list.

It's an erratum all right.... I've found a Fire College draft which reads:
"The spell protects the target from all non-magical fire and heat 
effects. An entity target is also protected against smoke effects 
(including smoke inhalation), hyperthermia and sunstroke."
Somebody must have decided that was a typo, and "corrected" it. 
Heatstroke works just fine by me.
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>My version of MS Word (as an example) doesn't have hyperthermia in its dictionary.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Almost certainly an editing error somewhere along the line.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Cheers</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Errol</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [<A HREF="mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz">mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz</A>]On Behalf Of</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Jacqui Smith</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Monday, 10 March 2008 12:34</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: Re: [dq] Extinguish Fire and Fire Proofing - Minor Fixes</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>At 11:29 a.m. 10/03/2008, Helen Saggers wrote:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;Don't errata to the rule book get voted on anyway?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;Either as being errata or as part of the vote to except the changed, </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;up dated rule book into use as the rule book.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;And the Hyper, Hypo seems to be a clear error of meaning so go add </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;it to the list.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>It's an erratum all right.... I've found a Fire College draft which reads:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&quot;The spell protects the target from all non-magical fire and heat </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>effects. An entity target is also protected against smoke effects </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>(including smoke inhalation), hyperthermia and sunstroke.&quot;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Somebody must have decided that was a typo, and &quot;corrected&quot; it. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Heatstroke works just fine by me.</FONT>
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