Subject | Re: [dq] Guild Taxes - a History |
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From | Andrew Withy |
Date | Mon, 9 Jun 2008 00:48:17 +1200 |
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C8C9CA.8256C300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would suggest that the best thing is the simplest. We have had taxes at 10% for most of the guild history. However, we also have a 2% divination tax, which can just be irritating. Why not lower the tax rate back to 8%, and include the divination tax in this, making it a total of 10%. This is simple to calculate, avoids fiddly numbers due to only some items being divinated (I know only some GMs worry about this latter, but even lifting the burden on some GMs is good), and the Duke can claim that lowering the tax to 8% is kind and generous. If we are being historical about taxes due to the war, the Duchy is likely to be in debt for some generations due to the Dark Circle invasion. Rebuilding after these sorts of events usually cost many times the non-monetary GDP of a country, let alone the cost of running a war. Great Britain just finished paying back the US loans from WWII in 2006, and they didn't even get invaded. Is there a good in-game or out-of-game reason to lower the taxes? Change needs a reason, not just "fifteen years ago it was different, and we should go back to that" - after that long, it's not a reversion, its just another change. Regards Andrew _____ From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] On Behalf Of Jonathan Bean Sent: Sunday, 8 June 2008 5:50 p.m. To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Subject: Re: [dq] Guild Taxes - a History Background: Today at the Guild meeting - in the Gods meeting section, under general business: We talked about lowering the Guild tax back down to 5% instead of 10%. So is their any reason why the 'War Aid Levy' is not rescinded/removed as the war effort no longer needs it? If we do remove it (lowering it back to 5%), it should be noted in the next issue of the SGT for the following season. Jono 2008/6/8 <phaeton@ihug.co.nz>: Guild Taxes started at 5% but were raised to 10% at June 1993AP as part of a War Aid Levy requested by the Duke of Carzala. This was reported in the Seagate Times, Issue #4. This was triggered by the war in the Western Kingdoms, specifically between Aquila and Alidar. This rate has remained unchanged except for a brief rise to a 20% rate, due to the growing threat of the Dark Circle, between Summer 800WK and Summer 801WK. Keith -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz -- -- Kind regards, Jonathan Bean H: +64 9 828 2959 M: +64 21 917 173 G: jonobean@gmail.com ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C8C9CA.8256C300 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:st1=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <!--[if !mso]> <style> v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} </style> <![endif]--><o:SmartTagType namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = name=3D"country-region"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"Street"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"address"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"place"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"PersonName"/> <!--[if !mso]> <style> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } </style> <![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:Arial; color:navy;} @page Section1 {size:21.0cm 842.0pt; margin:72.0pt 89.85pt 72.0pt 89.85pt;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> </head> <body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dblue> <div class=3DSection1> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I would suggest that the best thing = is the simplest. We have had taxes at 10% for most of the guild history. = However, we also have a 2% divination tax, which can just be irritating. Why not = lower the tax rate back to 8%, and include the divination tax in this, making it a = total of 10%. This is simple to calculate, avoids fiddly numbers due to only = some items being divinated (I know only some GMs worry about this latter, but = even lifting the burden on some GMs is good), and the Duke can claim that = lowering the tax to 8% is kind and generous.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If we are being historical about = taxes due to the war, the Duchy is likely to be in debt for some generations due = to the <st1:Street w:st=3D"on"><st1:address w:st=3D"on">Dark = Circle</st1:address></st1:Street> invasion. Rebuilding after these sorts of events usually cost many times = the non-monetary GDP of a country, let alone the cost of running a war. = <st1:country-region w:st=3D"on">Great Britain</st1:country-region> just finished paying back = the <st1:country-region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region> = loans from WWII in 2006, and they didn’t even get = invaded.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Is there a good in-game or = out-of-game reason to lower the taxes? Change needs a reason, not just = “fifteen years ago it was different, and we should go back to that” – after = that long, it’s not a reversion, its just another = change.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>= <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Andrew<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <div> <div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><font = size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter tabindex=3D-1> </span></font></div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font = size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] <b><span = style=3D'font-weight: bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jonathan Bean<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, 8 June 2008 = 5:50 p.m.<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName = w:st=3D"on">dq@dq.sf.org.nz</st1:PersonName><br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [dq] Guild = Taxes - a History</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Background:<br> Today at the Guild meeting - in the Gods meeting section, under general business:<br> We talked about lowering the Guild tax back down to 5% instead of = 10%.<br> <br> So is their any reason why the 'War Aid Levy' is not rescinded/removed = as the war effort no longer needs it? If we do remove it (lowering it back to = 5%), it should be noted in the next issue of the SGT for the following season. = <br> <br> Jono<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>2008/6/8 <<a = href=3D"mailto:phaeton@ihug.co.nz">phaeton@ihug.co.nz</a>>:<o:p></o:p>= </span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'>Guild Taxes started at 5% but were raised to 10% at June 1993AP = as part of<br> a War Aid Levy requested by the Duke of Carzala. This was reported in = the<br> Seagate Times, Issue #4. This was triggered by the war in the = Western<br> Kingdoms, specifically between <st1:place w:st=3D"on">Aquila</st1:place> = and Alidar.<br> <br> This rate has remained unchanged except for a brief rise to a 20% rate, = due<br> to the growing threat of the <st1:Street w:st=3D"on"><st1:address = w:st=3D"on">Dark Circle</st1:address></st1:Street>, between Summer 800WK and Summer<br> 801WK.<br> <br> Keith<br> <br> <br> -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:<a = href=3D"mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz">dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz</a> --<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><br> <br clear=3Dall> <br> -- <br> Kind regards,<br> <br> Jonathan Bean<br> H: +64 9 828 2959<br> M: +64 21 917 173<br> G: <a href=3D"mailto:jonobean@gmail.com">jonobean@gmail.com</a> = <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> </body> </html> ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C8C9CA.8256C300-- -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz -- |
Subject | Re: [dq] Guild Taxes - a History |
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From | Jacqui Smith |
Date | Mon, 09 Jun 2008 09:01:03 +1200 |
Andrew Withy wrote: > > I would suggest that the best thing is the simplest. We have had taxes > at 10% for most of the guild history. However, we also have a 2% > divination tax, which can just be irritating. Why not lower the tax > rate back to 8%, and include the divination tax in this, making it a > total of 10%. This is simple to calculate, avoids fiddly numbers due > to only some items being divinated (I know only some GMs worry about > this latter, but even lifting the burden on some GMs is good), and the > Duke can claim that lowering the tax to 8% is kind and generous. > > > I think I've been forgetting about the divination tax.... and making it a flat 10%. Ooops! I think this is the best suggestion so far, having the virtue of simplicity. And makes the maths really easy. Jacqui -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz -- |
Subject | Re: [dq] Guild Taxes - a History |
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From | Kelsie McArthur |
Date | Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:10:08 +1200 |
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C8CA21.613D7BD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I originally brought it up as I noticed it when doing the duchies war page. I was going to bring it up as an in character thing when I got around to it. It is irrelevant what level the tax is set at from an out of game perspective, except for the good suggestion of having a single simple number to use. Kelsie _____ From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] On Behalf Of Andrew Withy Sent: Monday, 9 June 2008 12:48 a.m. To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Subject: Re: [dq] Guild Taxes - a History I would suggest that the best thing is the simplest. We have had taxes at 10% for most of the guild history. However, we also have a 2% divination tax, which can just be irritating. Why not lower the tax rate back to 8%, and include the divination tax in this, making it a total of 10%. This is simple to calculate, avoids fiddly numbers due to only some items being divinated (I know only some GMs worry about this latter, but even lifting the burden on some GMs is good), and the Duke can claim that lowering the tax to 8% is kind and generous. If we are being historical about taxes due to the war, the Duchy is likely to be in debt for some generations due to the Dark Circle invasion. Rebuilding after these sorts of events usually cost many times the non-monetary GDP of a country, let alone the cost of running a war. Great Britain just finished paying back the US loans from WWII in 2006, and they didn't even get invaded. Is there a good in-game or out-of-game reason to lower the taxes? Change needs a reason, not just "fifteen years ago it was different, and we should go back to that" - after that long, it's not a reversion, its just another change. Regards Andrew _____ From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] On Behalf Of Jonathan Bean Sent: Sunday, 8 June 2008 5:50 p.m. To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Subject: Re: [dq] Guild Taxes - a History Background: Today at the Guild meeting - in the Gods meeting section, under general business: We talked about lowering the Guild tax back down to 5% instead of 10%. So is their any reason why the 'War Aid Levy' is not rescinded/removed as the war effort no longer needs it? If we do remove it (lowering it back to 5%), it should be noted in the next issue of the SGT for the following season. Jono 2008/6/8 <phaeton@ihug.co.nz>: Guild Taxes started at 5% but were raised to 10% at June 1993AP as part of a War Aid Levy requested by the Duke of Carzala. This was reported in the Seagate Times, Issue #4. This was triggered by the war in the Western Kingdoms, specifically between Aquila and Alidar. This rate has remained unchanged except for a brief rise to a 20% rate, due to the growing threat of the Dark Circle, between Summer 800WK and Summer 801WK. Keith -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz -- -- Kind regards, Jonathan Bean H: +64 9 828 2959 M: +64 21 917 173 G: jonobean@gmail.com ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C8CA21.613D7BD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v =3D=20 "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o =3D=20 "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w =3D=20 "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1 =3D=20 "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.3314" name=3DGENERATOR><!--[if !mso]> <STYLE>v\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } o\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } w\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } .shape { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } </STYLE> <![endif]--><o:SmartTagType name=3D"country-region"=20 namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagT= ype><o:SmartTagType=20 name=3D"Street"=20 namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagT= ype><o:SmartTagType=20 name=3D"address"=20 namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagT= ype><o:SmartTagType=20 name=3D"place"=20 namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagT= ype><o:SmartTagType=20 name=3D"PersonName"=20 namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagT= ype><!--[if !mso]> <STYLE>st1\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#ieooui) } </STYLE> <![endif]--> <STYLE>@font-face { font-family: Tahoma; } @page Section1 {size: 21.0cm 842.0pt; margin: 72.0pt 89.85pt 72.0pt = 89.85pt; } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } A:visited { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.EmailStyle17 { COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-style-type: personal-reply } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=3DEN-US vLink=3Dblue link=3Dblue> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D109360623-08062008><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I originally brought it up as I noticed it when = doing the=20 duchies war page.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D109360623-08062008><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D109360623-08062008><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I was going to bring it up as an in character = thing when I=20 got around to it.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D109360623-08062008><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D109360623-08062008><FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>It is irrelevant what level the tax is set at = from an out=20 of game perspective, except for the good suggestion of having a single = simple=20 number to use.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D109360623-08062008><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2>Kelsie</FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft> <HR tabIndex=3D-1> <FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz=20 [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Andrew=20 Withy<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, 9 June 2008 12:48 a.m.<BR><B>To:</B>=20 dq@dq.sf.org.nz<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [dq] Guild Taxes - a=20 History<BR></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=3DSection1> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I would = suggest that=20 the best thing is the simplest. We have had taxes at 10% for most of = the guild=20 history. However, we also have a 2% divination tax, which can just be=20 irritating. Why not lower the tax rate back to 8%, and include the = divination=20 tax in this, making it a total of 10%. This is simple to calculate, = avoids=20 fiddly numbers due to only some items being divinated (I know only = some GMs=20 worry about this latter, but even lifting the burden on some GMs is = good), and=20 the Duke can claim that lowering the tax to 8% is kind and=20 generous.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If we are = being=20 historical about taxes due to the war, the Duchy is likely to be in = debt for=20 some generations due to the <st1:Street w:st=3D"on"><st1:address = w:st=3D"on">Dark=20 Circle</st1:address></st1:Street> invasion. Rebuilding after these = sorts of=20 events usually cost many times the non-monetary GDP of a country, let = alone=20 the cost of running a war. <st1:country-region w:st=3D"on">Great=20 Britain</st1:country-region> just finished paying back the = <st1:country-region=20 w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region> = loans from=20 WWII in 2006, and they didn’t even get = invaded.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Is there a = good=20 in-game or out-of-game reason to lower the taxes? Change needs a = reason, not=20 just “fifteen years ago it was different, and we should go back = to that” –=20 after that long, it’s not a reversion, its just another=20 change.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">Regards<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">Andrew<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <DIV class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: center" = align=3Dcenter><FONT=20 face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <HR tabIndex=3D-1 align=3Dcenter width=3D"100%" SIZE=3D2> </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: = Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20 face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: = Tahoma">=20 dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] <B><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Jonathan = Bean<BR><B><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sunday, 8 June 2008 5:50=20 p.m.<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> = <st1:PersonName=20 w:st=3D"on">dq@dq.sf.org.nz</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [dq] Guild Taxes - = a=20 History</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face=3D"Times = New Roman"=20 size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Background:<BR>Today at the = Guild meeting=20 - in the Gods meeting section, under general business:<BR>We talked = about=20 lowering the Guild tax back down to 5% instead of 10%.<BR><BR>So is = their any=20 reason why the 'War Aid Levy' is not rescinded/removed as the war = effort no=20 longer needs it? If we do remove it (lowering it back to 5%), it = should be=20 noted in the next issue of the SGT for the following season.=20 <BR><BR>Jono<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">2008/6/8 <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:phaeton@ihug.co.nz">phaeton@ihug.co.nz</A>>:<o:p></o:p>= </SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Guild Taxes started at 5% but were raised to = 10% at=20 June 1993AP as part of<BR>a War Aid Levy requested by the Duke of = Carzala.=20 This was reported in the<BR>Seagate Times, Issue #4. This was = triggered by the=20 war in the Western<BR>Kingdoms, specifically between <st1:place=20 w:st=3D"on">Aquila</st1:place> and Alidar.<BR><BR>This rate has = remained=20 unchanged except for a brief rise to a 20% rate, due<BR>to the growing = threat=20 of the <st1:Street w:st=3D"on"><st1:address w:st=3D"on">Dark=20 Circle</st1:address></st1:Street>, between Summer 800WK and=20 Summer<BR>801WK.<BR><BR>Keith<BR><BR><BR>-- to unsubscribe notify = mailto:<A=20 href=3D"mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz">dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz</A>=20 --<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><BR clear=3Dall><BR>-- <BR>Kind=20 regards,<BR><BR>Jonathan Bean<BR>H: +64 9 828 2959<BR>M: +64 21 917 = 173<BR>G:=20 <A href=3D"mailto:jonobean@gmail.com">jonobean@gmail.com</A>=20 <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C8CA21.613D7BD0-- -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz -- |
Subject | Re: [dq] Guild Taxes - a History |
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From | Martin Dickson |
Date | Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:39:12 +1200 |
------=_Part_13198_20822812.1212968357440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Jacqui Smith <flamis@ihug.co.nz> wrote: > >> >> > I think I've been forgetting about the divination tax.... and making it a > flat 10%. Ooops! > > I think this is the best suggestion so far, having the virtue of > simplicity. And makes the maths really easy. And has the nice "newspeak" advantage of us getting to tell people that the taxes are now being reduced to 10% (from 10%). :) ------=_Part_13198_20822812.1212968357440 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Jacqui Smith <<a href="mailto:flamis@ihug.co.nz">flamis@ihug.co.nz</a>> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class="Ih2E3d"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br> <br> </blockquote></div> I think I've been forgetting about the divination tax.... and making it a flat 10%. Ooops!<br> <br> I think this is the best suggestion so far, having the virtue of simplicity. And makes the maths really easy.<font color="#888888"></font></blockquote><div><br>And has the nice "newspeak" advantage of us getting to tell people that the taxes are now being reduced to 10% (from 10%). :)<br> </div></div> ------=_Part_13198_20822812.1212968357440-- -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz -- |