Even if the weapon's max rank is lower than the derived rank?

Kelsie

2009/6/6 Helen Saggers <Helen@darksoft.co.nz>:
> I always use the better of actual rank or effective rank from warrior where
> I have more than one weapon in a category.
>
> Helen
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Martin" <stephenm@aklnz.net>
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> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 4:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [dq] Warrior rules clarification
>
>
> I always use the better of actual rank or effective rank from warrior.
>
> Cheers, Stephen.
>
> phaeton@ihug.co.nz wrote:
>>
>> If a warrior has spent EP to rank a weapon in a category that they already
>> have a higher rank in, but the rank does not exceed the minimum of half
>> their warrior rank or half their max weapon rank in that category, what
>> rank are they actually wielding that weapon at?
>>
>> Their actual rank? Or the rank as determined by the warrior skill?
>>
>> Personally I think it would be the latter until they have ranked that
>> weapon up to exceed the derived value but I'm curious to find out what
>> other GMs think
>>
>> Keith
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It is very rare that the weapon's max rank is lower than the derived rank.
Only Hand Axe and Net go to less than Rank 5 - you'd need to be over max
rank in a related weapon and Rank 10 Warrior to be in that situation; or
Rank 12 in both a related weapon and Warrior for any of the weapons with a
max Rank of 5. I'd not worry about it unless you had those sorts of Ranks.
Given those characters tend to be extreme, I have no problem with them
having effective Rank 5 Hand axe rather than Rank 4 - that's the least of
the opposition's worries!

Regards

Andrew

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Kelsie McArthur
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Subject: Re: [dq] Warrior rules clarification

Even if the weapon's max rank is lower than the derived rank?

Kelsie

2009/6/6 Helen Saggers <Helen@darksoft.co.nz>:
> I always use the better of actual rank or effective rank from warrior
where
> I have more than one weapon in a category.
>
> Helen
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Martin" <stephenm@aklnz.net>
> To: <dq@dq.sf.org.nz>
> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 4:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [dq] Warrior rules clarification
>
>
> I always use the better of actual rank or effective rank from warrior.
>
> Cheers, Stephen.
>
> phaeton@ihug.co.nz wrote:
>>
>> If a warrior has spent EP to rank a weapon in a category that they
already
>> have a higher rank in, but the rank does not exceed the minimum of half
>> their warrior rank or half their max weapon rank in that category, what
>> rank are they actually wielding that weapon at?
>>
>> Their actual rank? Or the rank as determined by the warrior skill?
>>
>> Personally I think it would be the latter until they have ranked that
>> weapon up to exceed the derived value but I'm curious to find out what
>> other GMs think
>>
>> Keith
>
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Under the rules you can't get a derived rank higher than max weapon rank.
There is not qualifying weapon whose max rank is less than 4.
Unless your a rank 9 or 10 warrior you can't get a defalt rank 5.
And as you use the lesser of half warrior or half weapon in same 
category.....

The 2 qualifying weapons whose max rank is 4 are Net and Hand Axe
In Axes, the Battle axe max rank is 7 so half is (3.5 round in favour) 4, no 
problem there.
Bola in entangling goes to 6, the rest of the weapons top out at 5, half is 
3, so again no problem.

Helen

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From: "Kelsie McArthur" <kelsiemca@gmail.com>
To: <dq@dq.sf.org.nz>
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [dq] Warrior rules clarification


> Even if the weapon's max rank is lower than the derived rank?
>
> Kelsie
>
> 2009/6/6 Helen Saggers <Helen@darksoft.co.nz>:
>> I always use the better of actual rank or effective rank from warrior 
>> where
>> I have more than one weapon in a category.
>>
>> Helen
>>


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If you rank a language when you already know a language in the same family
or group at a higher rank, you get a discount of 20%. When do you get a
discount of 30% for ranking a language?

(a) when you know a language in the same family at a higher rank, and you
know a language in the same group at a higher rank (these could be the same
or different languages).

(b) when you know one language that is both in the same family and group, at
a higher rank.

I always thought the former, but re-reading the rules in the Language skill
chapter, it looks like the latter.

Opinions on the original intent of the rules, how people play it, etc., all
appreciated.

Regards

Andrew


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It is Case-A, the more general case that was intended, since that will
benefit the student;  that is how I've ranked my own languages & how I
approve the ranking of my players (in theory).

If people only have a few languages, probably all their examples fall
into Case-B, by default.  
 

Michael Parkinson (Ph 3737 599 ext 85858)
Mathematics & Statistics Subject Librarian
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From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] On Behalf Of
Andrew Withy
Sent: Tuesday, 9 June 2009 4:02 p.m.
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: [dq] Language rules clarification

If you rank a language when you already know a language in the same
family
or group at a higher rank, you get a discount of 20%. When do you get a
discount of 30% for ranking a language?

(a) when you know a language in the same family at a higher rank, and
you
know a language in the same group at a higher rank (these could be the
same
or different languages).

(b) when you know one language that is both in the same family and
group, at
a higher rank.

I always thought the former, but re-reading the rules in the Language
skill
chapter, it looks like the latter.

Opinions on the original intent of the rules, how people play it, etc.,
all
appreciated.

Regards

Andrew


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