--20cf307f34146ac437049e27ff00
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hey! Nobody has sent me any mission reports. What am I going to put on the
front page?

Even a short precis would be welcome.

Kelsie

--20cf307f34146ac437049e27ff00
Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hey! Nobody has sent me any mission reports. What am I going to put on the front page?<br><br>Even a short precis would be welcome.<br><br>Kelsie<br><br><br>

--20cf307f34146ac437049e27ff00--


-- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz --

What is the Racial Maximum on Fatigue for a human?

As far as I can see, it is not explicitly stated in the rules.
There is a section in character gen that refers to the maximum FT a human can start with being
23 because their maximum EN is 25.
I have long read this as stating the max for a human is 23, but on re-reading it recently that
is not what it states.

I am now thinking it should be 25 the same as the primary stats.


Thoughts and opinions would be appreciated.

Cheers, Stephen.


------

Fatigue
The value of a character’s Fatigue is a direct function
of their Endurance. The player enters the Fatigue
value corresponding to the character’s Endurance
value after their Endurance has been modified for
race.
Endurance Fatigue
3 or 4 16
5 to 7 17
8 to 10 18
11 to 13 19
14 to 16 20
17 to 19 21
20 to 22 22
23 to 25 23
_26 to 27 24_
Endurance and Fatigue values in bold type can be
achieved only by members of certain non-human
races.
From this point on, a change in a character’s Endurance
value will not affect their Fatigue value and
vice-versa. Fatigue may be raised by up to 5 points,
though not past the character’s racial maximum.


-- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz --

--00248c711805dfc535049e2c9b4f
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

My position is that FT is a secondary statistic, and that there is no upper
limit, but that you can buy 1 FT per adventure or season, whichever is
least.
When I first suggested this last century, people believed that it would be
unbalancing. However, in the time since then, a number of PCs have been
given the ability and, lo, the sky has not fallen.

On 11 March 2011 16:27, Stephen Martin <stephenm@aklnz.net> wrote:

> What is the Racial Maximum on Fatigue for a human?
>
> As far as I can see, it is not explicitly stated in the rules.
> There is a section in character gen that refers to the maximum FT a human
> can start with being
> 23 because their maximum EN is 25.
> I have long read this as stating the max for a human is 23, but on
> re-reading it recently that
> is not what it states.
>
> I am now thinking it should be 25 the same as the primary stats.
>
>
> Thoughts and opinions would be appreciated.
>
> Cheers, Stephen.
>
>
> ------
>
> Fatigue
> The value of a character=92s Fatigue is a direct function
> of their Endurance. The player enters the Fatigue
> value corresponding to the character=92s Endurance
> value after their Endurance has been modified for
> race.
> Endurance Fatigue
> 3 or 4 16
> 5 to 7 17
> 8 to 10 18
> 11 to 13 19
> 14 to 16 20
> 17 to 19 21
> 20 to 22 22
> 23 to 25 23
> _26 to 27 24_
> Endurance and Fatigue values in bold type can be
> achieved only by members of certain non-human
> races.
> From this point on, a change in a character=92s Endurance
> value will not affect their Fatigue value and
> vice-versa. Fatigue may be raised by up to 5 points,
> though not past the character=92s racial maximum.
>
>
> -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz --
>

--00248c711805dfc535049e2c9b4f
Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<font face=3D"georgia,serif">My position is that FT is a secondary statisti=
c, and that there is no upper limit, but that you can buy 1 FT per adventur=
e or season, whichever is least.<br>When I first suggested this last centur=
y, people believed that it would be unbalancing. However, in the time since=
 then, a number of PCs have been given the ability and, lo, the sky has not=
 fallen.<br>
</font><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 11 March 2011 16:27, Stephen Marti=
n <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:stephenm@aklnz.net">stephenm@akln=
z.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"b=
order-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; paddin=
g-left: 1ex;">
What is the Racial Maximum on Fatigue for a human?<br>
<br>
As far as I can see, it is not explicitly stated in the rules.<br>
There is a section in character gen that refers to the maximum FT a human c=
an start with being<br>
23 because their maximum EN is 25.<br>
I have long read this as stating the max for a human is 23, but on re-readi=
ng it recently that<br>
is not what it states.<br>
<br>
I am now thinking it should be 25 the same as the primary stats.<br>
<br>
<br>
Thoughts and opinions would be appreciated.<br>
<br>
Cheers, Stephen.<br>
<br>
<br>
------<br>
<br>
Fatigue<br>
The value of a character=92s Fatigue is a direct function<br>
of their Endurance. The player enters the Fatigue<br>
value corresponding to the character=92s Endurance<br>
value after their Endurance has been modified for<br>
race.<br>
Endurance Fatigue<br>
3 or 4 16<br>
5 to 7 17<br>
8 to 10 18<br>
11 to 13 19<br>
14 to 16 20<br>
17 to 19 21<br>
20 to 22 22<br>
23 to 25 23<br>
_26 to 27 24_<br>
Endurance and Fatigue values in bold type can be<br>
achieved only by members of certain non-human<br>
races.<br>
From this point on, a change in a character=92s Endurance<br>
value will not affect their Fatigue value and<br>
vice-versa. Fatigue may be raised by up to 5 points,<br>
though not past the character=92s racial maximum.<br>
<br>
<br>
-- to unsubscribe notify mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz">=
dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz</a> --<br>
</blockquote></div><br>

--00248c711805dfc535049e2c9b4f--


-- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz --

As I read it there is no explicitly stated maximum for FT but it is
implied that 24 is only achievable by some non-human races, which make
me think that the human (normal) racial maximum for FT is 23 and only
Giants (24) and Orcs (25) have a higher racial maximum.

but that is reading between a couple of lines, but I think they are
clear lines though.

TTFN, Struan.

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 16:27, Stephen Martin <stephenm@aklnz.net> wrote:
> What is the Racial Maximum on Fatigue for a human?
>
> As far as I can see, it is not explicitly stated in the rules.
> There is a section in character gen that refers to the maximum FT a human can start with being
> 23 because their maximum EN is 25.
> I have long read this as stating the max for a human is 23, but on re-reading it recently that
> is not what it states.
>
> I am now thinking it should be 25 the same as the primary stats.
>
>
> Thoughts and opinions would be appreciated.
>
> Cheers, Stephen.
>
>
> ------
>
> Fatigue
> The value of a character’s Fatigue is a direct function
> of their Endurance. The player enters the Fatigue
> value corresponding to the character’s Endurance
> value after their Endurance has been modified for
> race.
> Endurance Fatigue
> 3 or 4 16
> 5 to 7 17
> 8 to 10 18
> 11 to 13 19
> 14 to 16 20
> 17 to 19 21
> 20 to 22 22
> 23 to 25 23
> _26 to 27 24_
> Endurance and Fatigue values in bold type can be
> achieved only by members of certain non-human
> races.
> From this point on, a change in a character’s Endurance
> value will not affect their Fatigue value and
> vice-versa. Fatigue may be raised by up to 5 points,
> though not past the character’s racial maximum.
>
>
> -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz --
>


-- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz --

Anyone know Michael's whereabouts?

His mail from the list has been bouncing for the last few weeks, and I don't
have any more addresses to try.

-Martin


-- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz --

The current rules are clearly written for me.

FT Max for humans is 23, being the highest FT that a Human with highest EN
can start with.


6. RANKING
6.1 Characteristics
A Characterisitic may only be raised by five points over its starting value
to a maximum of 25 (modified by racial bonuses / penalties), except Fatigue,
and Physical Beauty (which cannot be raised). The exception to this is
Perception, which can be raised to racial maximum.
To calculate the maximum for Fatigue, take the racial maximum for Endurance
and find the maximum Fatigue from the chart (see character generation). For
example, dwarves have +2 to EN so their maximum EN is 27, hence their
maximum FT is 24 from the chart. Then apply any additional racial modifiers
to FT. For example, orcs gain +2 to FT so their maximum is 24+2 = 26.


Jim's point is valid, but the current rules are as per the above.

Ian

-----Original Message-----
From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] On Behalf Of
Struan Judd
Sent: Friday, 11 March 2011 4:35 p.m.
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: Re: [dq] FT Racial max for a Human

As I read it there is no explicitly stated maximum for FT but it is
implied that 24 is only achievable by some non-human races, which make
me think that the human (normal) racial maximum for FT is 23 and only
Giants (24) and Orcs (25) have a higher racial maximum.

but that is reading between a couple of lines, but I think they are
clear lines though.

TTFN, Struan.

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 16:27, Stephen Martin <stephenm@aklnz.net> wrote:
> What is the Racial Maximum on Fatigue for a human?
>
> As far as I can see, it is not explicitly stated in the rules.
> There is a section in character gen that refers to the maximum FT a human
can start with being
> 23 because their maximum EN is 25.
> I have long read this as stating the max for a human is 23, but on
re-reading it recently that
> is not what it states.
>
> I am now thinking it should be 25 the same as the primary stats.
>
>
> Thoughts and opinions would be appreciated.
>
> Cheers, Stephen.
>
>
> ------
>
> Fatigue
> The value of a character's Fatigue is a direct function
> of their Endurance. The player enters the Fatigue
> value corresponding to the character's Endurance
> value after their Endurance has been modified for
> race.
> Endurance Fatigue
> 3 or 4 16
> 5 to 7 17
> 8 to 10 18
> 11 to 13 19
> 14 to 16 20
> 17 to 19 21
> 20 to 22 22
> 23 to 25 23
> _26 to 27 24_
> Endurance and Fatigue values in bold type can be
> achieved only by members of certain non-human
> races.
> From this point on, a change in a character's Endurance
> value will not affect their Fatigue value and
> vice-versa. Fatigue may be raised by up to 5 points,
> though not past the character's racial maximum.
>
>
> -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz --
>


-- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz --


-----
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1497/3497 - Release Date: 03/10/11


-- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz --

--_227b5636-f3df-4369-acb0-09179662238a_
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


You'll kill us all with this craziness Jim=2C its just a matter of time unt=
il. You never bait the sky=2C bad things come from the sky...
=20


Date: Fri=2C 11 Mar 2011 16:32:17 +1300
Subject: Re: [dq] FT Racial max for a Human
From: jim.arona@gmail.com
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz

My position is that FT is a secondary statistic=2C and that there is no upp=
er limit=2C but that you can buy 1 FT per adventure or season=2C whichever =
is least.
When I first suggested this last century=2C people believed that it would b=
e unbalancing. However=2C in the time since then=2C a number of PCs have be=
en given the ability and=2C lo=2C the sky has not fallen.


On 11 March 2011 16:27=2C Stephen Martin <stephenm@aklnz.net> wrote:

What is the Racial Maximum on Fatigue for a human?

As far as I can see=2C it is not explicitly stated in the rules.
There is a section in character gen that refers to the maximum FT a human c=
an start with being
23 because their maximum EN is 25.
I have long read this as stating the max for a human is 23=2C but on re-rea=
ding it recently that
is not what it states.

I am now thinking it should be 25 the same as the primary stats.


Thoughts and opinions would be appreciated.

Cheers=2C Stephen.


------

Fatigue
The value of a character=92s Fatigue is a direct function
of their Endurance. The player enters the Fatigue
value corresponding to the character=92s Endurance
value after their Endurance has been modified for
race.
Endurance Fatigue
3 or 4 16
5 to 7 17
8 to 10 18
11 to 13 19
14 to 16 20
17 to 19 21
20 to 22 22
23 to 25 23
_26 to 27 24_
Endurance and Fatigue values in bold type can be
achieved only by members of certain non-human
races.
From this point on=2C a change in a character=92s Endurance
value will not affect their Fatigue value and
vice-versa. Fatigue may be raised by up to 5 points=2C
though not past the character=92s racial maximum.


-- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz --

 		 	   		  =

--_227b5636-f3df-4369-acb0-09179662238a_
Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<html>
<head>
<style><!--
.hmmessage P
{
margin:0px=3B
padding:0px
}
body.hmmessage
{
font-size: 10pt=3B
font-family:Tahoma
}
--></style>
</head>
<body class=3D'hmmessage'>
You'll kill us all with this craziness Jim=2C its just a matter of time unt=
il. You never bait the sky=2C bad things come from the sky...<BR>&nbsp=3B<B=
R>

<HR id=3DstopSpelling>
Date: Fri=2C 11 Mar 2011 16:32:17 +1300<BR>Subject: Re: [dq] FT Racial max =
for a Human<BR>From: jim.arona@gmail.com<BR>To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz<BR><BR><FON=
T face=3Dgeorgia=2Cserif>My position is that FT is a secondary statistic=2C=
 and that there is no upper limit=2C but that you can buy 1 FT per adventur=
e or season=2C whichever is least.<BR>When I first suggested this last cent=
ury=2C people believed that it would be unbalancing. However=2C in the time=
 since then=2C a number of PCs have been given the ability and=2C lo=2C the=
 sky has not fallen.<BR></FONT><BR>
<DIV class=3Decxgmail_quote>On 11 March 2011 16:27=2C Stephen Martin <SPAN =
dir=3Dltr>&lt=3B<A href=3D"mailto:stephenm@aklnz.net">stephenm@aklnz.net</A=
>&gt=3B</SPAN> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Decxgmail_quote style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex">What is the =
Racial Maximum on Fatigue for a human?<BR><BR>As far as I can see=2C it is =
not explicitly stated in the rules.<BR>There is a section in character gen =
that refers to the maximum FT a human can start with being<BR>23 because th=
eir maximum EN is 25.<BR>I have long read this as stating the max for a hum=
an is 23=2C but on re-reading it recently that<BR>is not what it states.<BR=
><BR>I am now thinking it should be 25 the same as the primary stats.<BR><B=
R><BR>Thoughts and opinions would be appreciated.<BR><BR>Cheers=2C Stephen.=
<BR><BR><BR>------<BR><BR>Fatigue<BR>The value of a character=92s Fatigue i=
s a direct function<BR>of their Endurance. The player enters the Fatigue<BR=
>value corresponding to the character=92s Endurance<BR>value after their En=
durance has been modified for<BR>race.<BR>Endurance Fatigue<BR>3 or 4 16<BR=
>5 to 7 17<BR>8 to 10 18<BR>11 to 13 19<BR>14 to 16 20<BR>17 to 19 21<BR>20=
 to 22 22<BR>23 to 25 23<BR>_26 to 27 24_<BR>Endurance and Fatigue values i=
n bold type can be<BR>achieved only by members of certain non-human<BR>race=
s.<BR>From this point on=2C a change in a character=92s Endurance<BR>value =
will not affect their Fatigue value and<BR>vice-versa. Fatigue may be raise=
d by up to 5 points=2C<BR>though not past the character=92s racial maximum.=
<BR><BR><BR>-- to unsubscribe notify mailto:<A href=3D"mailto:dq-request@dq=
.sf.org.nz">dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz</A> --<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR> 		 	 =
  		  </body>
</html>=

--_227b5636-f3df-4369-acb0-09179662238a_--


-- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz --