SubjectRe: [dq] Toeing the Party Line
Frompaul schmidt
DateMon, 11 Mar 2013 07:30:36 +1300
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Eh god! How can anyone ever compel a GM to GM against his conscience? =20
Makes me think of the Monty Python skit=20
"We're all individuals!'
"I'm not!"
Lol.=20
In a multi-year campaign it will all come out in the wash.
As Rodney King would have said "Can't we all just get along?"
No insults to each other guys. Devlaues the value of the whole thing (like =
enjoying each others company)
=20
Cheers
Paul



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er compel a GM to GM against his conscience?&nbsp=3B <BR>
Makes me think&nbsp=3Bof the Monty Python skit <BR>
"We're all individuals!'<BR>
"I'm not!"<BR>
Lol.&nbsp=3B<BR>
In a multi-year campaign it will all come out in the wash.<BR>
As Rodney King would have said "Can't we all just get along?"<BR>
No insults to each other guys. Devlaues the value of the whole thing (like =
enjoying each others company)<BR>
&nbsp=3B<BR>
Cheers<BR>
Paul<BR>
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SubjectRe: [dq] Toeing the Party Line
FromErrol Cavit
DateMon, 11 Mar 2013 08:25:29 +1300
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Jim, you don't appear to actually be responding to Jono's post.

It is not clear what the demand that you refer to is? The only part of the =
below that isn't your own words is Jono denying that he made any demand (or=
 even suggestion).

Errol


From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] On Behalf Of Jim=
 Arona
Sent: Sunday, 10 March 2013 9:34 p.m.
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: Re: [dq] Toeing the Party Line

I see no reason why
1) I should not be involved in every part of the DQ world that I choose to =
take part in.
2) I should not vehemently oppose a decision I believe to be for the detrim=
ent of the game, whether or not I accept a vote on the matter.
3) you believe you have the right to make such a demand of me.



On 10 March 2013 21:27, Jonathan Bean <jonobean@gmail.com<mailto:jonobean@g=
mail.com>> wrote:

On 10 March 2013 17:57, Jim Arona <jim.arona@gmail.com<mailto:jim.arona@gma=
il.com>> wrote:
Today at the God's Meeting, we discussed Racial Tax modifiers, a topic whic=
h I have a view which is unsupported by the majority. I made it clear the e=
xtent of my opposition, and that I will not be changing the way I award exp=
erience. I have always understood this to be my right, and indeed, I take i=
t as an obligation to administer the game in a way that accords with my own=
 views. More to the point, this is a matter between me and my players, and =
I can't see what anyone ekse could do about it if they didn't like it.

In the past, where this has come up, Jono has said that I should withdraw i=
n varying degrees.

You are taking what I said today out of context Jim. I was making the point=
 that if you feel you should not or could not be bound by a majority of GMs=
 views/vote on an issue and intend to do your own thing regardless, I feel =
GMs should not vote on it, since you are in no way going to be bound by the=
 vote. That is all. I did not ask or tell you to stop running any game and =
don't care for you implying that I did.

So get off your high horse you pompous git.


If this seems like an ultimatum, then I suppose that's because it is one. T=
o be clear, I DM the game in the way that seems reasonable to me. I use the=
 rules that make sense to me or I modify them until I get something I think=
 works. This is the way it has always been, as far as I am aware.

If, however, people align with Jono's view that I toe some party line, well=
, then, respond with this advice to the list. I am happy not to DM DQ entir=
ely.

--
Kind regards,

Jonathan Bean
39 Sackville St, Grey Lynn
P: +64 9 378 6635<tel:%2B64%209%20378%206635>
M: +64 21 917 173<tel:%2B64%2021%20917%20173>
G: jonobean@gmail.com<mailto:jonobean@gmail.com>


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nk=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'f=
ont-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jim, you =
don&#8217;t appear to actually be responding to Jono&#8217;s post.<o:p></o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p cla=
ss=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-=
serif";color:#1F497D'>It is not clear what the demand that you refer to is?=
 The only part of the below that isn&#8217;t your own words is Jono denying=
 that he made any demand (or even suggestion).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p clas=
s=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-s=
erif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span=
 style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D=
'>Errol<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p><=
/span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
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iv><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0=
cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US=
 style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> dq-owner@dq.=
sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim Arona<br><=
b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 10 March 2013 9:34 p.m.<br><b>To:</b> dq@dq.sf.org.nz<b=
r><b>Subject:</b> Re: [dq] Toeing the Party Line<o:p></o:p></span></p></div=
></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>=
<span style=3D'font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>I see no reason why</span><o:=
p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Geo=
rgia","serif"'>1) I should not be involved in every part of the DQ world th=
at I choose to take part in.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMso=
Normal><span style=3D'font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>2)&nbsp;I should not v=
ehemently oppose a decision I believe to be for the detriment of the game, =
whether or not I accept a vote on the matter.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>3) yo=
u believe you have the right to make such a demand of me. </span><o:p></o:p=
></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Georgia","=
serif"'><br></span><br>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal=
>On 10 March 2013 21:27, Jonathan Bean &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jonobean@gmail=
.com" target=3D"_blank">jonobean@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On 10 March 2013 17:57, Jim Arona &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:jim.arona@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jim.arona@gmail.com</a>&gt; w=
rote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"G=
eorgia","serif"'>Today at the God's Meeting, we discussed Racial Tax modifi=
ers, a topic which I have a view which is unsupported by the majority. I ma=
de it clear the extent of my opposition, and that I will not be changing th=
e way I award experience. I have always understood this to be my right, and=
 indeed, I take it as an obligation to administer the game in a way that ac=
cords with my own views. More to the point, this is a matter between me and=
 my players, and I can't see what anyone ekse could do about it if they did=
n't like it.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:=
p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCC=
C 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>In the p=
ast, where this has come up, Jono has said that I should withdraw in varyin=
g degrees.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><div><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>You are taking=
 what I said today out of context Jim. I was making the point that if you f=
eel you should not or could not be bound by a majority of GMs views/vote on=
 an issue and intend to do your own thing regardless, I feel GMs should not=
 vote on it, since you are in no way going to be bound by the vote. That is=
 all. I did not ask or tell you to stop running any game and don't care for=
 you&nbsp;implying&nbsp;that I did.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>So get of=
f your high horse you pompous git.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbs=
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C 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>If this =
seems like an ultimatum, then I suppose that's because it is one. To be cle=
ar, I DM the game in the way that seems reasonable to me. I use the rules t=
hat make sense to me&nbsp;or I modify them until I get something I think wo=
rks. This is the way it has always been, as far as I am aware.</span><o:p><=
/o:p></p></div></blockquote><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>=
</div><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padd=
ing:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><p class=3DM=
soNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>If, however, people =
align with Jono's view that I toe some party line, well, then, respond with=
 this advice to the list. I am happy not to DM DQ entirely.</span><o:p></o:=
p></p></div></blockquote><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></d=
iv></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3Dhoenzb><span style=3D'col=
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 style=3D'color:#888888'>Kind regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#888888'><br>Jonathan Bean<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#888888'>39 Sackv=
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@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jonobean@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><=
/div></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div></bo=
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SubjectRe: [dq] Toeing the Party Line
FromIan Wood
DateMon, 11 Mar 2013 09:08:39 +1300
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Even better - i get to ignore every rule that is against my conscience.
 
thanks Paul!
 
Ian


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From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] On Behalf Of paul
schmidt
Sent: Monday, 11 March 2013 07:31
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: Re: [dq] Toeing the Party Line


Eh god! How can anyone ever compel a GM to GM against his conscience?  
Makes me think of the Monty Python skit 
"We're all individuals!'
"I'm not!"
Lol. 
In a multi-year campaign it will all come out in the wash.
As Rodney King would have said "Can't we all just get along?"
No insults to each other guys. Devlaues the value of the whole thing (like
enjoying each others company)
 
Cheers
Paul

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SubjectRe: [dq] Toeing the Party Line
FromJim Arona
DateMon, 11 Mar 2013 09:20:05 +1300
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I have responded.
He demanded that I withdraw from the vote.
This is my response:

"I see no reason why****

1) I should not be involved in every part of the DQ world that I choose to
take part in.****

2) I should not vehemently oppose a decision I believe to be for the
detriment of the game, whether or not I accept a vote on the matter.****

3) you believe you have the right to make such a demand of me. "****




On 11 March 2013 08:25, Errol Cavit <Errol.Cavit@tollgroup.com> wrote:

> Jim, you don=92t appear to actually be responding to Jono=92s post.****
>
> ** **
>
> It is not clear what the demand that you refer to is? The only part of th=
e
> below that isn=92t your own words is Jono denying that he made any demand=
 (or
> even suggestion).****
>
> ** **
>
> Errol****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] *On Behalf
> Of *Jim Arona
> *Sent:* Sunday, 10 March 2013 9:34 p.m.
>
> *To:* dq@dq.sf.org.nz
> *Subject:* Re: [dq] Toeing the Party Line****
>
> ** **
>
> I see no reason why****
>
> 1) I should not be involved in every part of the DQ world that I choose t=
o
> take part in.****
>
> 2) I should not vehemently oppose a decision I believe to be for the
> detriment of the game, whether or not I accept a vote on the matter.****
>
> 3) you believe you have the right to make such a demand of me. ****
>
>
>
>  ****
>
> On 10 March 2013 21:27, Jonathan Bean <jonobean@gmail.com> wrote:****
>
> ** **
>
> On 10 March 2013 17:57, Jim Arona <jim.arona@gmail.com> wrote:****
>
> Today at the God's Meeting, we discussed Racial Tax modifiers, a topic
> which I have a view which is unsupported by the majority. I made it clear
> the extent of my opposition, and that I will not be changing the way I
> award experience. I have always understood this to be my right, and indee=
d,
> I take it as an obligation to administer the game in a way that accords
> with my own views. More to the point, this is a matter between me and my
> players, and I can't see what anyone ekse could do about it if they didn'=
t
> like it.****
>
>  ****
>
> In the past, where this has come up, Jono has said that I should withdraw
> in varying degrees.****
>
> ** **
>
> You are taking what I said today out of context Jim. I was making the
> point that if you feel you should not or could not be bound by a majority
> of GMs views/vote on an issue and intend to do your own thing regardless,=
 I
> feel GMs should not vote on it, since you are in no way going to be bound
> by the vote. That is all. I did not ask or tell you to stop running any
> game and don't care for you implying that I did. ****
>
> ** **
>
> So get off your high horse you pompous git.****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> If this seems like an ultimatum, then I suppose that's because it is one.
> To be clear, I DM the game in the way that seems reasonable to me. I use
> the rules that make sense to me or I modify them until I get something I
> think works. This is the way it has always been, as far as I am aware.***=
*
>
>  ****
>
> If, however, people align with Jono's view that I toe some party line,
> well, then, respond with this advice to the list. I am happy not to DM DQ
> entirely.****
>
>  ****
>
> -- ****
>
> Kind regards,****
>
>
> Jonathan Bean****
>
> 39 Sackville St, Grey Lynn****
>
> P: +64 9 378 6635
> M: +64 21 917 173
> G: jonobean@gmail.com****
>
> ** **
>

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<div><font face=3D"georgia,serif">I have responded. </font></div><div><font=
 face=3D"georgia,serif">He demanded that I withdraw from the vote. </font><=
/div><div><font face=3D"georgia,serif">This is my response:</font></div><di=
v><font face=3D"georgia,serif"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"georgia,serif">&quot;<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Ge=
orgia&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">I see no reason why</span><u></u><u></u><div=
 class=3D"im"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;=
Georgia&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">1) I should not be involved in every part =
of the DQ world that I choose to take part in.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Georgia&=
quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">2) I should not vehemently oppose a decision I bel=
ieve to be for the detriment of the game, whether or not I accept a vote on=
 the matter.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Georgia&=
quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">3) you believe you have the right to make such a d=
emand of me. &quot;</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l">
<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Georgia&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;"><br></spa=
n></p></div></div></font></div><font face=3D"georgia,serif"><div><br></div>=
</font><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 11 March 2013 08:25, Er=
rol Cavit <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Errol.Cavit@tollgroup.com=
" target=3D"_blank">Errol.Cavit@tollgroup.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-=
color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div lang=3D"EN-NZ" vlink=3D"purple" link=3D"blue"><div><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal">
<span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;;font-size:11pt">Jim, you don=92t appear to actually be resp=
onding to Jono=92s post.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans=
-serif&quot;;font-size:11pt"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:11pt">It is not clear what=
 the demand that you refer to is? The only part of the below that isn=92t y=
our own words is Jono denying that he made any demand (or even suggestion).=
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:11pt"><u></u>=A0<u></u></s=
pan></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-fam=
ily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:11pt">Errol<u></u>=
<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:11pt"><u></u>=A0<u></u></s=
pan></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-fam=
ily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:11pt"><u></u>=A0<u=
></u></span></p>
<div style=3D"border-width:medium medium medium 1.5pt;border-style:none non=
e none solid;border-color:currentColor currentColor currentColor blue;paddi=
ng:0cm 0cm 0cm 4pt"><div><div style=3D"border-width:1pt medium medium;borde=
r-style:solid none none;border-color:rgb(181,196,223) currentColor currentC=
olor;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:10pt" lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span st=
yle=3D"font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;font-size:10pt=
" lang=3D"EN-US"> <a href=3D"mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz" target=3D"_blank=
">dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz</a> [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz=
" target=3D"_blank">dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim Aron=
a<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 10 March 2013 9:34 p.m.</span><div class=3D"im"><br><b=
>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:dq@dq.sf.org.nz" target=3D"_blank">dq@dq.sf.org.=
nz</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [dq] Toeing the Party Line<u></u><u></u></div=
><p>
</p></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=A0<u></u></p><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Georgia&quot;,&quot;serif=
&quot;">I see no reason why</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div class=3D"im"=
><div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Georgia&quot;,&quot=
;serif&quot;">1) I should not be involved in every part of the DQ world tha=
t I choose to take part in.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal">
<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Georgia&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">2)=A0I sh=
ould not vehemently oppose a decision I believe to be for the detriment of =
the game, whether or not I accept a vote on the matter.</span><u></u><u></u=
></p>
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Georgia&=
quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">3) you believe you have the right to make such a d=
emand of me. </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-family:&quot;Georgia&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;"><br>
</span><br>=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div class=3D"im"><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">On 10 March 2013 21:27, Jonathan Bean &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
jonobean@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jonobean@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u><=
/u><u></u></p>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=A0<u></u></p></=
div><div><div class=3D"im"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 10 March 2013 17:=
57, Jim Arona &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jim.arona@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">=
jim.arona@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Georgia&quot;,=
&quot;serif&quot;">Today at the God&#39;s Meeting, we discussed Racial Tax =
modifiers, a topic which I have a view which is unsupported by the majority=
. I made it clear the extent of my opposition, and that I will not be chang=
ing the way I award experience. I have always understood this to be my righ=
t, and indeed, I take it as an obligation to administer the game in a way t=
hat accords with my own views. More to the point, this is a matter between =
me and my players, and I can&#39;t see what anyone ekse could do about it i=
f they didn&#39;t like it.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote st=
yle=3D"border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;border-style:none none none so=
lid;border-color:currentColor currentColor currentColor rgb(204,204,204);pa=
dding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:4.8pt">
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Georgia&quot;,=
&quot;serif&quot;">In the past, where this has come up, Jono has said that =
I should withdraw in varying degrees.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></block=
quote>
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=A0<u></u></p></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">You are taking what I said today out of context Jim. I =
was making the point that if you feel you should not or could not be bound =
by a majority of GMs views/vote on an issue and intend to do your own thing=
 regardless, I feel GMs should not vote on it, since you are in no way goin=
g to be bound by the vote. That is all. I did not ask or tell you to stop r=
unning any game and don&#39;t care for you=A0implying=A0that I did.=A0<u></=
u><u></u></p>
</div><div class=3D"im"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=A0<u></u></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">So get off your high horse you pompous git.=
<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=A0<u=
></u></p>
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=A0<u></u></p></div><blockquote st=
yle=3D"border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;border-style:none none none so=
lid;border-color:currentColor currentColor currentColor rgb(204,204,204);pa=
dding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:4.8pt">
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Georgia&quot;,=
&quot;serif&quot;">If this seems like an ultimatum, then I suppose that&#39=
;s because it is one. To be clear, I DM the game in the way that seems reas=
onable to me. I use the rules that make sense to me=A0or I modify them unti=
l I get something I think works. This is the way it has always been, as far=
 as I am aware.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div></blockquote><div class=3D"im"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0<u></u>=
<u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-width:medium medium medium 1pt=
;border-style:none none none solid;border-color:currentColor currentColor c=
urrentColor rgb(204,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-right:0cm;margi=
n-left:4.8pt">
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Georgia&quot;,=
&quot;serif&quot;">If, however, people align with Jono&#39;s view that I to=
e some party line, well, then, respond with this advice to the list. I am h=
appy not to DM DQ entirely.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div></blockquote><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><=
/div></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><span style=3D"color:rgb(136,=
136,136)">-- <u></u><u></u></span></span></p><div class=3D"im"><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal">
<span style=3D"color:rgb(136,136,136)">Kind regards,</span><u></u><u></u></=
p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(136,136,136)">=
<br>Jonathan Bean<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"color:rgb(136,136,136)">39 Sackville St, Grey Lynn<u></u><u></u><=
/span></p>
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(136,136,136)">P:=
 <a href=3D"tel:%2B64%209%20378%206635" target=3D"_blank">+64 9 378 6635</a=
><br>M: <a href=3D"tel:%2B64%2021%20917%20173" target=3D"_blank">+64 21 917=
 173</a><br>
G:=A0<a href=3D"mailto:jonobean@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jonobean@gmail=
.com</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><u></u>=A0<u></u></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br>

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FromErrol Cavit
DateMon, 11 Mar 2013 09:32:34 +1300
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Right, I hadn't realised that "I feel GMs should not vote on it," referred =
to yourself, rather than suggesting that a vote should not happen at all.

Errol

From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] On Behalf Of Jim=
 Arona
Sent: Monday, 11 March 2013 9:20 a.m.
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: Re: [dq] Toeing the Party Line

I have responded.
He demanded that I withdraw from the vote.
This is my response:

"I see no reason why
1) I should not be involved in every part of the DQ world that I choose to =
take part in.
2) I should not vehemently oppose a decision I believe to be for the detrim=
ent of the game, whether or not I accept a vote on the matter.
3) you believe you have the right to make such a demand of me. "



On 11 March 2013 08:25, Errol Cavit <Errol.Cavit@tollgroup.com<mailto:Errol=
.Cavit@tollgroup.com>> wrote:
Jim, you don't appear to actually be responding to Jono's post.

It is not clear what the demand that you refer to is? The only part of the =
below that isn't your own words is Jono denying that he made any demand (or=
 even suggestion).

Errol


From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz<mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz> [mailto:dq-owner@=
dq.sf.org.nz<mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz>] On Behalf Of Jim Arona
Sent: Sunday, 10 March 2013 9:34 p.m.

To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz<mailto:dq@dq.sf.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [dq] Toeing the Party Line

I see no reason why
1) I should not be involved in every part of the DQ world that I choose to =
take part in.
2) I should not vehemently oppose a decision I believe to be for the detrim=
ent of the game, whether or not I accept a vote on the matter.
3) you believe you have the right to make such a demand of me.



On 10 March 2013 21:27, Jonathan Bean <jonobean@gmail.com<mailto:jonobean@g=
mail.com>> wrote:

On 10 March 2013 17:57, Jim Arona <jim.arona@gmail.com<mailto:jim.arona@gma=
il.com>> wrote:
Today at the God's Meeting, we discussed Racial Tax modifiers, a topic whic=
h I have a view which is unsupported by the majority. I made it clear the e=
xtent of my opposition, and that I will not be changing the way I award exp=
erience. I have always understood this to be my right, and indeed, I take i=
t as an obligation to administer the game in a way that accords with my own=
 views. More to the point, this is a matter between me and my players, and =
I can't see what anyone ekse could do about it if they didn't like it.

In the past, where this has come up, Jono has said that I should withdraw i=
n varying degrees.

You are taking what I said today out of context Jim. I was making the point=
 that if you feel you should not or could not be bound by a majority of GMs=
 views/vote on an issue and intend to do your own thing regardless, I feel =
GMs should not vote on it, since you are in no way going to be bound by the=
 vote. That is all. I did not ask or tell you to stop running any game and =
don't care for you implying that I did.

So get off your high horse you pompous git.


If this seems like an ultimatum, then I suppose that's because it is one. T=
o be clear, I DM the game in the way that seems reasonable to me. I use the=
 rules that make sense to me or I modify them until I get something I think=
 works. This is the way it has always been, as far as I am aware.

If, however, people align with Jono's view that I toe some party line, well=
, then, respond with this advice to the list. I am happy not to DM DQ entir=
ely.

--
Kind regards,

Jonathan Bean
39 Sackville St, Grey Lynn
P: +64 9 378 6635<tel:%2B64%209%20378%206635>
M: +64 21 917 173<tel:%2B64%2021%20917%20173>
G: jonobean@gmail.com<mailto:jonobean@gmail.com>



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hadn&#8217;t realised that &#8220;</span>I feel GMs should not vote on it,&=
#8221; <span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>=
referred to yourself, rather than suggesting that a vote should not happen =
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11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p c=
lass=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","san=
s-serif"'>Errol</span><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri"=
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b><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-s=
erif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.o=
rg.nz] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim Arona<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 11 March 2013 =
9:20 a.m.<br><b>To:</b> dq@dq.sf.org.nz<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [dq] Toeing =
the Party Line<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&=
nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Georgi=
a","serif"'>I have responded. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DM=
soNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>He demanded that I w=
ithdraw from the vote. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l><span style=3D'font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>This is my response:</span>=
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>&quo=
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 the DQ world that I choose to take part in.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><di=
v><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto'><span style=3D'font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>2) I should not vehe=
mently oppose a decision I believe to be for the detriment of the game, whe=
ther or not I accept a vote on the matter.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt=
:auto'><span style=3D'font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>3) you believe you hav=
e the right to make such a demand of me. &quot;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-botto=
m-alt:auto'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l><span style=3D'font-family:"Georgia","serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p=
></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal>On 11 March 2013 08:25, Errol Cavit &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Erro=
l.Cavit@tollgroup.com" target=3D"_blank">Errol.Cavit@tollgroup.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top=
-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-=
family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jim, you don&#8217;t appear to=
 actually be responding to Jono&#8217;s post.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><=
span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F=
497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-=
top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;fo=
nt-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It is not clear what the de=
mand that you refer to is? The only part of the below that isn&#8217;t your=
 own words is Jono denying that he made any demand (or even suggestion).</s=
pan><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;ms=
o-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cali=
bri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMso=
Normal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span s=
tyle=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>=
Errol</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt=
:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p cla=
ss=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'=
><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#=
1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div style=3D'border:none;border-left:s=
olid windowtext 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;border-color:currentColor c=
urrentColor currentColor blue'><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:so=
lid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;border-color:currentColor cu=
rrentColor'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margi=
n-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href=3D"mailto:dq-owner=
@dq.sf.org.nz" target=3D"_blank">dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz</a> [mailto:<a href=
=3D"mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz" target=3D"_blank">dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz</=
a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim Arona<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 10 March 2013 9:3=
4 p.m.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><br><b>To:</b> <a hre=
f=3D"mailto:dq@dq.sf.org.nz" target=3D"_blank">dq@dq.sf.org.nz</a><br><b>Su=
bject:</b> Re: [dq] Toeing the Party Line<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><=
p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:=
auto'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-to=
p-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style=3D'font-family:"Georgia"=
,"serif"'>I see no reason why</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><=
span style=3D'font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>1) I should not be involved in=
 every part of the DQ world that I choose to take part in.</span><o:p></o:p=
></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-m=
argin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style=3D'font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>2)&nbs=
p;I should not vehemently oppose a decision I believe to be for the detrime=
nt of the game, whether or not I accept a vote on the matter.</span><o:p></=
o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;ms=
o-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style=3D'font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>3) =
you believe you have the right to make such a demand of me. </span><o:p></o=
:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso=
-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style=3D'font-family:"Georgia","serif"'><br>=
</span><br>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On 10 March 20=
13 21:27, Jonathan Bean &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jonobean@gmail.com" target=3D=
"_blank">jonobean@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p>=
</p></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:a=
uto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On 10 March 2013 17:57, Jim Arona &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:jim.arona@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jim.arona@gmail.com</a>=
&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top=
-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style=3D'font-family:"Georgia",=
"serif"'>Today at the God's Meeting, we discussed Racial Tax modifiers, a t=
opic which I have a view which is unsupported by the majority. I made it cl=
ear the extent of my opposition, and that I will not be changing the way I =
award experience. I have always understood this to be my right, and indeed,=
 I take it as an obligation to administer the game in a way that accords wi=
th my own views. More to the point, this is a matter between me and my play=
ers, and I can't see what anyone ekse could do about it if they didn't like=
 it.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-marg=
in-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><blo=
ckquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm=
 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-b=
ottom:5.0pt;border-color:currentColor currentColor currentColor rgb(204,204=
,204)'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margi=
n-bottom-alt:auto'><span style=3D'font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>In the pas=
t, where this has come up, Jono has said that I should withdraw in varying =
degrees.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p></o=
:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-=
alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>You are taking what I said today out o=
f context Jim. I was making the point that if you feel you should not or co=
uld not be bound by a majority of GMs views/vote on an issue and intend to =
do your own thing regardless, I feel GMs should not vote on it, since you a=
re in no way going to be bound by the vote. That is all. I did not ask or t=
ell you to stop running any game and don't care for you&nbsp;implying&nbsp;=
that I did.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=
=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></=
p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-marg=
in-bottom-alt:auto'>So get off your high horse you pompous git.<o:p></o:p><=
/p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:a=
uto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D=
MsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbs=
p;<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid w=
indowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0p=
t;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt;border-color:currentColor currentCol=
or currentColor rgb(204,204,204)'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-ma=
rgin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style=3D'font-family:"G=
eorgia","serif"'>If this seems like an ultimatum, then I suppose that's bec=
ause it is one. To be clear, I DM the game in the way that seems reasonable=
 to me. I use the rules that make sense to me&nbsp;or I modify them until I=
 get something I think works. This is the way it has always been, as far as=
 I am aware.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><div><div><p class=3DM=
soNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp=
;<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid wi=
ndowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt=
;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt;border-color:currentColor currentColo=
r currentColor rgb(204,204,204)'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-mar=
gin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style=3D'font-family:"Ge=
orgia","serif"'>If, however, people align with Jono's view that I toe some =
party line, well, then, respond with this advice to the list. I am happy no=
t to DM DQ entirely.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&=
nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'm=
so-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style=3D'color:#88=
8888'>-- </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-=
margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style=3D'color:#88888=
8'>Kind regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=
=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style=3D'colo=
r:#888888'><br>Jonathan Bean</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal=
 style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style=
=3D'color:#888888'>39 Sackville St, Grey Lynn</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-=
alt:auto'><span style=3D'color:#888888'>P: <a href=3D"tel:%2B64%209%20378%2=
06635" target=3D"_blank">+64 9 378 6635</a><br>M: <a href=3D"tel:%2B64%2021=
%20917%20173" target=3D"_blank">+64 21 917 173</a><br>G:&nbsp;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:jonobean@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jonobean@gmail.com</a></span><o:=
p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margi=
n-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div=
></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div></body><=
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SubjectRe: [dq] Toeing the Party Line
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No, it directed at me, as it has been in the past.

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No, it directed at me, as it has been in the past.

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