Messages for 12 May 2013

Subject	Re: [dq] Alchimist synthetic poison duration question
From	Ian Wood
Date	Sun, 12 May 2013 17:31:19 +1200 (NZST)
--1975027747-1667011524-1368336679=:24412 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had another thought recently, (but it wasnt about DQ sadly) =C2=A0 So this will have to suffice: =C2=A0 1. All alchemical products should be quasi-magical, how else can a rock cau= se suffering? Or how can such a small amount of venom kill a horse? =C2=A0 2. We want to fear or loathe some NPCs (and some PCs too) such as the Drow,= undead etc. Drow weapons should automatically carry a poison, perhaps an i= ncapacitating one so they can haul the victims to the pits of pain, or slav= ery. =C2=A0 3. The human body has four principal members served by a network: =C2=A0- brain and nerves =C2=A0- heart and arteries =C2=A0- liver a veins =C2=A0- genitals and spermatic ducts (women too). A healthy balance of four humours were considered beneficial, and illness o= r death was due to an imballance. By extrapolation we would infer alchemica= l products to cause an imballance (poison) or ballance (healing potions and= antidotes). =C2=A0 The two pairs of humours (wet and dry: hot and cold) form the four: =C2=A0- hot and wet (blood, air) =C2=A0- hot and dry (red bile or choler, fire) =C2=A0- cold and wet (phlegm, water) =C2=A0- cold and dry (black bile, earth). =C2=A0 A poison could be described as affecting one (or more) of the pairs. The victim would show symptoms, possibly alerting others to their malady, a= nd giving hints as to the cure, or antidose. Thus a poison may attack the b= lood, causing the victim to become cold and dry: keeping them warm and hydr= ated may help them fight the poison. =C2=A0 Different pairs would have different affects, in terms of effect, rapidity = and duration. =C2=A0 4. all of the above is to add more flavour and remove the need to use moder= n medical science to explain why your PC is deader than a dead thing. Becau= se alchemical products may not work in the same way as modern drugs and poi= sons such as polonium. =C2=A0 5. Some poisons may stop working when the victim falls unconscious. Ian --- On Sat, 11/5/13, Ian Wood <dawnhaven@xtra.co.nz> wrote: From: Ian Wood <dawnhaven@xtra.co.nz> Subject: Re: [dq] Alchimist synthetic poison duration question To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Date: Saturday, 11, May, 2013, 4:39 PM Amen, hear him, etc. =C2=A0 what he wrote. =C2=A0 What the game needs is an Apocathery. Close enough to Apocalypse in the dic= tionary to give fair warning. There the nasty little spotty gits, who could= nt get a date to the prom, can buy all the nefarious nothings their noctura= l nutterings connect. =C2=A0 I decided to look through DQ1 and 2 rules, and could find no reference to a= n Assassin being able to use poisons without risk of harm. Their only benef= it is to purchase at cost price directly from an alchemist. =C2=A0 Alchemists on the other hand have a goodly chance of killing themselves. "I= retired my character through the artifice of learning alchemy, not very we= ll as it turned out." =C2=A0 The use of poison to kill another is=C2=A0hardly heroic.=20 But then, many PCs aren't heroic. =C2=A0 The rules may be useful to a GM=C2=A0through exposing the party to the fear= of being poisoned. =C2=A0 As I wrote=C2=A0below, the whole system is, to my limited imagination,=C2= =A0poorly thought through, and seems to create two types: fast acting nerve= toxins and slow acting blood agents.=20 =C2=A0 But then again, Herbalists weren't in those books either, and the game didn= 't suffer. =C2=A0 Ian --- On Sat, 11/5/13, Jim Arona <jim.arona@gmail.com> wrote: From: Jim Arona <jim.arona@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [dq] Alchimist synthetic poison duration question To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz Date: Saturday, 11, May, 2013, 3:48 PM It seems a little odd to arrange things so that our idea of fun accords wit= h the rules, rather than making the rules reflect a happier playing environ= ment. The rules are, at best, a model of 'shared reality'. They should never be g= iven so much weight that they are not changed on the grounds that they were= written on older paper. Further: By the way, a Rank 4 Healer has a chance of neutralising the poison, which = is negatively modified by the Rank of the Alchemical poison. Each attempt c= osts 4 FT, a Pass Action and the use of a hand. Such a remedy is by no mean= s certain, and in the heat of battle, may not even be likely. I agree with William. Alchemical poisons, as written,=C2=A0 lack all fun. N= ormally, since this is a game of imagination, I would encourage someone to = come up with a cooler alternative on an individual basis. Diabolical, weird= and unusual poisons are the very thing to cause people whose Profession st= arts with 'A' and ends with 'ssassin' to salivate, which is a good thing.= =20 But, this is a technology, accessible to anyone willing to pay for it, and = dull as ditch water. On 11 May 2013 13:08, Julia <juliamcspadden@gmail.com> wrote: isn't it super special fun that our big bad guy duo =C2=A0if they have 25 ag.. can change weapons to new one every pulse, as a = free action daggers are very light and do an extra 10 points of poison all while staying within the rules Julia <juliamcspadden@gmail.com> wrote: >oh and btw.. =C2=A0if you work with an archer they can firing barbed arrow= s which lower Ag until it gets under 12 > >I kinda enjoy being scared of moonshae and raith.. > >I think you should leave the rule alone... > >oh and your assassin could always be carrying 8 paralysis daggers instead. > >Julia <juliamcspadden@gmail.com> wrote: > >>To use a poison >> >>you must be either an assassin or make a 3 x times md check , every time = you handle your weapon. >>coat, ready , attack... etc >> >>The poidon lasts on the weapon until either 6 hours has past or a success= ful damage check is made. >> >>and can be cured by any rank 4 healer or rank 4 cure poison potion >> >>the few times I have had to pay a ressurection cost for not taking a heal= er on a game... Seemed fair >> >>Jonathan Bean <jonobean@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>Thanks all. >>> >>>I will encourage my GM to sign off on an =C2=A0'alchemist rank' pulse du= ration. >>> >>>Jono >>>On 11/05/2013 4:28 AM, "William Dymock-Johnson" < >>>dymockjohnsonwilliam@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, a synthetic poison will kill the victim quickly. >>>> >>>> That said, it's a dumb rule and an unfun one. Don't use it. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Ian Wood <dawnhaven@xtra.co.nz> wrot= e: >>>> >>>>> who knows, it is poorly worded throughout. >>>>> >>>>> I would say it acts till death or neutralised, if the full dose is >>>>> administered - which is not a given. >>>>> Or perhaps a 1x EN roll, success meaning the administered dose is not >>>>> enough to kill. >>>>> Failure means enough of the poison or venom has worked its way into t= he >>>>> victim's vitals to kill them. >>>>> Perhaps amputation of the affected part would help - probably a GM ca= ll. >>>>> >>>>> There is a confusion between a venom and a poison (venoms are >>>>> envenomated, poisons are (typically) ingested. Something i learnt wor= king >>>>> in the Australian bush. >>>>> >>>>> There is not much point in a poison that fails. >>>>> A low ranked poison gives the victim (or their party) time to notice >>>>> something is wrong. >>>>> >>>>> The rate of damage is startlingly high for a natural venom. >>>>> Arsenic is very slow, cyanide rather prompt. Neither makes for a very >>>>> good assassination. >>>>> >>>>> Knowing the purpose of this part of the skill would be helpful, if on= ly >>>>> we had a document that laid out the point behind the rules, say a >>>>> GM's-guide. >>>>> do we want death by poison/venom/toxin in the game? >>>>> do we want fear of incapacitation by the above in the game? >>>>> >>>>> Ian >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- On Fri, 10/5/13, Bernard Hoggins <nevyn0ad@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Bernard Hoggins <nevyn0ad@yahoo.co.uk> >>>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [dq] Alchimist synthetic poison duration question >>>>> To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz >>>>> Date: Friday, 10, May, 2013, 9:53 AM >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0I had always assumed alchemist rank pulses. Otherwise it= 's an >>>>> automatic kill unless the party has a high enough ranked healer. Whic= h >>>>> seems far too powerful for the prices involved. >>>>> Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android >>>>> >>>>> =C2=A0------------------------------ >>>>> From: Julia <juliamcspadden@gmail.com>; >>>>> To: <dq@dq.sf.org.nz>; >>>>> Subject: Re: [dq] Alchimist synthetic poison duration question >>>>> Sent: Thu, May 9, 2013 6:18:00 AM >>>>> >>>>> =C2=A0 correct >>>>> Sent from Huawei Mobile >>>>> >>>>> Jonathan Bean <jonobean@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >Am I correct in thinking that; Alchemist manufactured Synthetic Pois= on >>>>> will >>>>> >act per pulse until cured? >>>>> > >>>>> >I ask this because I can not find a reference to a duration of the p= oison >>>>> >within the skill. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >-- >>>>> >Kind regards, >>>>> > >>>>> >Jonathan Bean >>>>> >39 Sackville St, Grey Lynn >>>>> >P: +64 9 378 6635 >>>>> >M: +64 21 917 173 >>>>> >G: jonobean@gmail.com >>>>> =C2=B6=E2=80=B9=C2=A7=C2=B2=C3=A6=C3=ACr=C2=B8=E2=80=BAzz-=E2=80=B0= =C3=BC=C2=A6j)m=C2=A1=C3=9A=C2=ABz=C2=AB=C5=BE=C2=B2=C3=97j=C2=B1=C3=BA+=E2= =80=9A\| >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BDr=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD= zz-=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BDj)m=EF=BF=BD=DA=ABz=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF= =BDj=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD --1975027747-1667011524-1368336679=:24412 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"= top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>I had another thought recently, (but it = wasnt about DQ sadly)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So this will have to suffice:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>1. All alchemical products should be quasi-magical, how else can a roc= k cause suffering?</DIV> <DIV>Or how can such a small amount of venom kill a horse?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2. We want to fear or loathe some NPCs (and some PCs too) such as the = Drow, undead etc. Drow weapons should automatically carry a poison, perhaps= an incapacitating one so they can haul the victims to the pits of pain, or= slavery.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>3. The human body has four principal members served by a network:</DIV= > <DIV> - brain and nerves</DIV> <DIV> - heart and arteries</DIV> <DIV> - liver a veins</DIV> <DIV> - genitals and spermatic ducts (women too).</DIV> <DIV>A healthy balance of four humours were considered beneficial, and illn= ess or death was due to an imballance. By extrapolation we would infer alch= emical products to cause an imballance (poison) or ballance (healing potion= s and antidotes).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The two pairs of humours (wet and dry: hot and cold) form the four:</D= IV> <DIV> - hot and wet (blood, air)</DIV> <DIV> - hot and dry (red bile or choler, fire)</DIV> <DIV> - cold and wet (phlegm, water)</DIV> <DIV> - cold and dry (black bile, earth).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>A poison could be described as affecting one (or more) of the pairs.</= DIV> <DIV>The victim would show symptoms, possibly alerting others to their mala= dy, and giving hints as to the cure, or antidose. Thus a poison may attack = the blood, causing the victim to become cold and dry: keeping them warm and= hydrated may help them fight the poison.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Different pairs would have different affects, in terms of effect, rapi= dity and duration.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>4. all of the above is to add more flavour and remove the need to use = modern medical science to explain why your PC is deader than a dead thing. = Because alchemical products may not work in the same way as modern drugs an= d poisons such as polonium.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>5. Some poisons may stop working when the victim falls unconscious.<BR= ></DIV> <DIV>Ian<BR>--- On <B>Sat, 11/5/13, Ian Wood <I><dawnhaven@xtra.co.nz&gt= ;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5= px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Ian Wood <dawnhaven@xtra.co.nz><BR>Su= bject: Re: [dq] Alchimist synthetic poison duration question<BR>To: dq@dq.s= f.org.nz<BR>Date: Saturday, 11, May, 2013, 4:39 PM<BR><BR> <DIV id=3Dyiv2042935991> <TABLE border=3D0 cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD vAlign=3Dtop> <DIV>Amen, hear him, etc.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>what he wrote.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>What the game needs is an Apocathery. Close enough to Apocalypse in th= e dictionary to give fair warning. There the nasty little spotty gits, who = couldnt get a date to the prom, can buy all the nefarious nothings their no= ctural nutterings connect.<BR></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I decided to look through DQ1 and 2 rules, and could find no reference= to an Assassin being able to use poisons without risk of harm. Their only = benefit is to purchase at cost price directly from an alchemist.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Alchemists on the other hand have a goodly chance of killing themselve= s. "I retired my character through the artifice of learning alchemy, not ve= ry well as it turned out."</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The use of poison to kill another is hardly heroic. </DIV> <DIV>But then, many PCs aren't heroic.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The rules may be useful to a GM through exposing the party to the= fear of being poisoned.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As I wrote below, the whole system is, to my limited imagination,=  poorly thought through, and seems to create two types: fast acting ne= rve toxins and slow acting blood agents. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But then again, Herbalists weren't in those books either, and the game= didn't suffer.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ian<BR>--- On <B>Sat, 11/5/13, Jim Arona <I><jim.arona@gmail.com&gt= ;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5= px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Jim Arona <jim.arona@gmail.com><BR>Su= bject: Re: [dq] Alchimist synthetic poison duration question<BR>To: dq@dq.s= f.org.nz<BR>Date: Saturday, 11, May, 2013, 3:48 PM<BR><BR> <DIV id=3Dyiv2042935991> <DIV dir=3Dltr> <DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: georgia, serif" class=3Dyiv2042935991gmail_defau= lt>It seems a little odd to arrange things so that our idea of fun accords = with the rules, rather than making the rules reflect a happier playing envi= ronment.<BR></DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: georgia, serif" class=3Dyiv2042935991gmail_defau= lt>The rules are, at best, a model of 'shared reality'. They should never b= e given so much weight that they are not changed on the grounds that they w= ere written on older paper.<BR></DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: georgia, serif" class=3Dyiv2042935991gmail_defau= lt>Further:<BR></DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: georgia, serif" class=3Dyiv2042935991gmail_defau= lt>By the way, a Rank 4 Healer has a chance of neutralising the poison, whi= ch is negatively modified by the Rank of the Alchemical poison. Each attemp= t costs 4 FT, a Pass Action and the use of a hand. Such a remedy is by no m= eans certain, and in the heat of battle, may not even be likely.<BR></DIV><= BR> <DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: georgia, serif" class=3Dyiv2042935991gmail_defau= lt>I agree with William. Alchemical poisons, as written,  lack all fun= .. Normally, since this is a game of imagination, I would encourage someone = to come up with a cooler alternative on an individual basis. Diabolical, we= ird and unusual poisons are the very thing to cause people whose Profession= starts with 'A' and ends with 'ssassin' to salivate, which is a good thing= .. <BR><BR>But, this is a technology, accessible to anyone willing to pay fo= r it, and dull as ditch water.<BR><BR></DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: georgia, serif" class=3Dyiv2042935991gmail_defau= lt><BR></DIV></DIV> <DIV class=3Dyiv2042935991gmail_extra><BR><BR> <DIV class=3Dyiv2042935991gmail_quote>On 11 May 2013 13:08, Julia <SPAN dir= =3Dltr><<A href=3D"http://nz.mc961.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Djuliam= cspadden@gmail.com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank>juliamcspadden@gmail.com= </A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex= ; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3Dyiv2042935991gmail_quote>isn't it super specia= l fun that our big bad guy duo<BR><BR> if they have 25 ag.. can change= weapons to new one every pulse, as a free action<BR><BR>daggers are very l= ight<BR><BR>and do an extra 10 points of poison<BR><BR>all while staying wi= thin the rules<BR> <DIV class=3Dyiv2042935991HOEnZb> <DIV class=3Dyiv2042935991h5><BR>Julia <<A href=3D"http://nz.mc961.mail.= yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Djuliamcspadden@gmail.com" rel=3Dnofollow target= =3D_blank>juliamcspadden@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR><BR>>oh and btw.. &= nbsp;if you work with an archer they can firing barbed arrows which lower A= g until it gets under 12<BR>><BR>>I kinda enjoy being scared of moons= hae and raith..<BR>><BR>>I think you should leave the rule alone...<B= R>><BR>>oh and your assassin could always be carrying 8 paralysis dag= gers instead.<BR>><BR>>Julia <<A href=3D"http://nz.mc961.mail.yaho= o.com/mc/compose?to=3Djuliamcspadden@gmail.com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_bl= ank>juliamcspadden@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>><BR>>>To use a poi= son<BR>>><BR>>>you must be either an assassin or make a 3 x tim= es md check , every time you handle your weapon.<BR>>>coat, ready , a= ttack... etc<BR>>><BR>>>The poidon lasts on the weapon until ei= ther 6 hours has past or a successful damage check is made.<BR>>><BR>>>and = can be cured by any rank 4 healer or rank 4 cure poison potion<BR>>><= BR>>>the few times I have had to pay a ressurection cost for not taki= ng a healer on a game... Seemed fair<BR>>><BR>>>Jonathan Bean &= lt;<A href=3D"http://nz.mc961.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Djonobean@gmail= ..com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank>jonobean@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>&= gt;><BR>>>>Thanks all.<BR>>>><BR>>>>I will en= courage my GM to sign off on an  'alchemist rank' pulse duration.<BR>&= gt;>><BR>>>>Jono<BR>>>>On 11/05/2013 4:28 AM, "Will= iam Dymock-Johnson" <<BR>>>><A href=3D"http://nz.mc961.mail.yah= oo.com/mc/compose?to=3Ddymockjohnsonwilliam@gmail.com" rel=3Dnofollow targe= t=3D_blank>dymockjohnsonwilliam@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>>>><BR= >>>>> Yes, a synthetic poison will kill the victim quickly.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> That said, it's a dumb ru= le and an unfun one. Don't use it.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>><= BR>>>>> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Ian Wood <<A href= =3D"http://nz.mc961.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Ddawnhaven@xtra.co.nz" re= l=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank>dawnhaven@xtra.co.nz</A>> wrote:<BR>>&gt= ;>><BR>>>>>> who knows, it is poorly worded throughout= ..<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> I would say it acts till = death or neutralised, if the full dose is<BR>>>>>> administe= red - which is not a given.<BR>>>>>> Or perhaps a 1x EN roll= , success meaning the administered dose is not<BR>>>>>> enou= gh to kill.<BR>>>>>> Failure means enough of the poison or v= enom has worked its way into the<BR>>>>>> victim's vitals to= kill them.<BR>>>>>> Perhaps amputation of the affected part would help - probably a GM call.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>&g= t;> There is a confusion between a venom and a poison (venoms are<BR>&gt= ;>>>> envenomated, poisons are (typically) ingested. Something = i learnt working<BR>>>>>> in the Australian bush.<BR>>&gt= ;>>><BR>>>>>> There is not much point in a poison t= hat fails.<BR>>>>>> A low ranked poison gives the victim (or= their party) time to notice<BR>>>>>> something is wrong.<BR= >>>>>><BR>>>>>> The rate of damage is startli= ngly high for a natural venom.<BR>>>>>> Arsenic is very slow= , cyanide rather prompt. Neither makes for a very<BR>>>>>> g= ood assassination.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> Knowing = the purpose of this part of the skill would be helpful, if only<BR>>>= >>> we had a document that laid out the point behind the rules, say a<BR>>>>>> GM's-guide.<BR>>>>>> d= o we want death by poison/venom/toxin in the game?<BR>>>>>> = do we want fear of incapacitation by the above in the game?<BR>>>>= >><BR>>>>>> Ian<BR>>>>>><BR>>>&gt= ;>><BR>>>>>> --- On Fri, 10/5/13, Bernard Hoggins &lt= ;<A href=3D"http://nz.mc961.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dnevyn0ad@yahoo.c= o.uk" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank>nevyn0ad@yahoo.co.uk</A>> wrote:<B= R>>>>>><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> From= : Bernard Hoggins <<A href=3D"http://nz.mc961.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?= to=3Dnevyn0ad@yahoo.co.uk" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank>nevyn0ad@yahoo.co= ..uk</A>><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> Subject: Re: [d= q] Alchimist synthetic poison duration question<BR>>>>>> To:= <A href=3D"http://nz.mc961.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Ddq@dq.sf.org.nz"= rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank>dq@dq.sf.org.nz</A><BR>>>>>> Date: Friday, = 10, May, 2013, 9:53 AM<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>><BR>&= gt;>>>>    I had always assumed alchemist rank pulses= .. Otherwise it's an<BR>>>>>> automatic kill unless the party= has a high enough ranked healer. Which<BR>>>>>> seems far t= oo powerful for the prices involved.<BR>>>>>> Sent from Yaho= o! Mail on Android<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>  --= ----------------------------<BR>>>>>> From: Julia <<A h= ref=3D"http://nz.mc961.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Djuliamcspadden@gmail.= com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank>juliamcspadden@gmail.com</A>>;<BR>&g= t;>>>> To: <<A href=3D"http://nz.mc961.mail.yahoo.com/mc/c= ompose?to=3Ddq@dq.sf.org.nz" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank>dq@dq.sf.org.nz= </A>>;<BR>>>>>> Subject: Re: [dq] Alchimist synthetic p= oison duration question<BR>>>>>> Sent: Thu, May 9, 2013 6:18:00= AM<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>   correct<BR>>&= gt;>>> Sent from Huawei Mobile<BR>>>>>><BR>>>= >>> Jonathan Bean <<A href=3D"http://nz.mc961.mail.yahoo.com/mc= /compose?to=3Djonobean@gmail.com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank>jonobean@g= mail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> &gt= ;Am I correct in thinking that; Alchemist manufactured Synthetic Poison<BR>= >>>>> will<BR>>>>>> >act per pulse until c= ured?<BR>>>>>> ><BR>>>>>> >I ask this b= ecause I can not find a reference to a duration of the poison<BR>>>&g= t;>> >within the skill.<BR>>>>>> ><BR>>>&g= t;>> ><BR>>>>>> >--<BR>>>>>> >= Kind regards,<BR>>>>>> ><BR>>>>>> >Jonathan Bean<BR>>>>>> >39 Sackville St, Grey Lynn<B= R>>>>>> >P: <A rel=3Dnofollow>+64 9 378 6635</A><BR>>&= gt;>>> >M: <A rel=3Dnofollow>+64 21 917 173</A><BR>>>>= >> >G: <A href=3D"http://nz.mc961.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dj= onobean@gmail.com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank>jonobean@gmail.com</A><BR= >>>>>> =C2=B6=E2=80=B9=C2=A7=C2=B2=C3=A6=C3=ACr=C2=B8=E2=80= =BAzz-=E2=80=B0=C3=BC=C2=A6j)m=C2=A1=C3=9A=C2=ABz=C2=AB=C5=BE=C2=B2=C3=97j= =C2=B1=C3=BA+=E2=80=9A\|<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>><BR>= >>>><BR>>>=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD= =EF=BF=BDr=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BDzz-=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BDj)m=EF=BF=BD=DA=ABz=EF=BF= =BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BDj=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD</DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><= /DIV><BR></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></BLOCKQU= OTE></td></tr></table> --1975027747-1667011524-1368336679=:24412-- -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz --