| Subject | Re: [dq] Updating the DQ Players Guild 2010 to 2013 |
|---|---|
| From | Jim Arona |
| Date | Fri, 9 Aug 2013 09:34:26 +1200 |
--001a1132e88419d3c904e3766ced Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I ignore this rule because it is stupid. My version is that you must pay the Experience cost within 6 months of when you have completed the training, otherwise the time or special opportunity is is lost On Aug 8, 2013 11:44 PM, "Julia" <juliamcspadden@gmail.com> wrote: > Unless it has been changed. > > The rule was you have to pay the ep and finish the training within 6 > months of starting. > > Bit of a pain for master levels and warriors. > > Seen the ep cost on healer :) > > Jonathan Bean <jonobean@gmail.com> wrote: > > >Can anyone tell me what the situation is regarding the training time and > >completing it within 6 months? > > > >I ask this because of a 2008 Question by Andrew Withy - which is on the > >wiki at: > http://dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?title=Talk:Ranking_Interruptions > > > > > > > > > >-- > >Kind regards, > > > >Jonathan Bean > >39 Sackville St, Grey Lynn > >P: +64 9 378 6635 > >M: +64 21 917 173 > >G: jonobean@gmail.com > --001a1132e88419d3c904e3766ced Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <p>I ignore this rule because it is stupid.<br> My version is that you must pay the Experience cost within 6 months of when= you have completed the training, otherwise the time or special opportunity= is is lost</p> <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Aug 8, 2013 11:44 PM, "Julia" <<= a href=3D"mailto:juliamcspadden@gmail.com">juliamcspadden@gmail.com</a>>= wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"= margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Unless it has been changed.<br> <br> The rule was you have to pay the ep and finish the training within 6 months= of starting.<br> <br> Bit of a pain for master levels and warriors.<br> <br> Seen the ep cost on healer =A0:)<br> <br> Jonathan Bean <<a href=3D"mailto:jonobean@gmail.com">jonobean@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:<br> <br> >Can anyone tell me what the situation is regarding the training time an= d<br> >completing it within 6 months?<br> ><br> >I ask this because of a 2008 Question by Andrew Withy - which is on the= <br> >wiki at: <a href=3D"http://dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?title=3DTalk:Rank= ing_Interruptions" target=3D"_blank">http://dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?titl= e=3DTalk:Ranking_Interruptions</a><br> ><br> ><br> ><br> ><br> >--<br> >Kind regards,<br> ><br> >Jonathan Bean<br> >39 Sackville St, Grey Lynn<br> >P: <a href=3D"tel:%2B64%209%20378%206635" value=3D"+6493786635">+64 9 3= 78 6635</a><br> >M: <a href=3D"tel:%2B64%2021%20917%20173" value=3D"+6421917173">+64 21 = 917 173</a><br> >G: <a href=3D"mailto:jonobean@gmail.com">jonobean@gmail.com</a><br> </blockquote></div> --001a1132e88419d3c904e3766ced-- -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz -- | |
| Subject | Re: [dq] Updating the DQ Players Guild 2010 to 2013 |
|---|---|
| From | Julia |
| Date | Fri, 09 Aug 2013 10:04:53 +1200 |
QXNpZGUgZnJvbSB0aGUgZXAgdGhpbmcgYXMgbWVudGlvbmVkIGJlbG93IGJ5IEppbS4KClRoZSBv dGhlciBlZmZlY3Qgb2YgdGhlIHJ1bGUgaXMgLi4KCklmIHlvdSBhcmUgcmFua2luZyBhIHdlYXBv biB0byAxMCBhbmQgYWxzbyBnbyBvbiBhZHZlbnR1cmUuIFlvdSBtdXN0IGJlIGJhY2sgaW4gNiB3 ZWVrcyBvciBsb29zZSB0aGUgdGltZS4KCjIgc2Vhc29ucyAtIDI2IHdlZWtzClJhbmsgMTAgLSAy MCB3ZWVrcwoKSSBjYW4gc2VlIHJvb20gZm9yIGltcHJvdmVtZW50Ckp1bGVzCgpKaW0gQXJvbmEg PGppbS5hcm9uYUBnbWFpbC5jb20+IHdyb3RlOgoKPkkgaWdub3JlIHRoaXMgcnVsZSBiZWNhdXNl IGl0IGlzIHN0dXBpZC4KPk15IHZlcnNpb24gaXMgdGhhdCB5b3UgbXVzdCBwYXkgdGhlIEV4cGVy aWVuY2UgY29zdCB3aXRoaW4gNiBtb250aHMgb2Ygd2hlbgo+eW91IGhhdmUgY29tcGxldGVkIHRo ZSB0cmFpbmluZywgb3RoZXJ3aXNlIHRoZSB0aW1lIG9yIHNwZWNpYWwgb3Bwb3J0dW5pdHkKPmlz IGlzIGxvc3QKPk9uIEF1ZyA4LCAyMDEzIDExOjQ0IFBNLCAiSnVsaWEiIDxqdWxpYW1jc3BhZGRl bkBnbWFpbC5jb20+IHdyb3RlOgo+Cj4+IFVubGVzcyBpdCBoYXMgYmVlbiBjaGFuZ2VkLgo+Pgo+ PiBUaGUgcnVsZSB3YXMgeW91IGhhdmUgdG8gcGF5IHRoZSBlcCBhbmQgZmluaXNoIHRoZSB0cmFp bmluZyB3aXRoaW4gNgo+PiBtb250aHMgb2Ygc3RhcnRpbmcuCj4+Cj4+IEJpdCBvZiBhIHBhaW4g Zm9yIG1hc3RlciBsZXZlbHMgYW5kIHdhcnJpb3JzLgo+Pgo+PiBTZWVuIHRoZSBlcCBjb3N0IG9u IGhlYWxlciAgOikKPj4KPj4gSm9uYXRoYW4gQmVhbiA8am9ub2JlYW5AZ21haWwuY29tPiB3cm90 ZToKPj4KPj4gPkNhbiBhbnlvbmUgdGVsbCBtZSB3aGF0IHRoZSBzaXR1YXRpb24gaXMgcmVnYXJk aW5nIHRoZSB0cmFpbmluZyB0aW1lIGFuZAo+PiA+Y29tcGxldGluZyBpdCB3aXRoaW4gNiBtb250 aHM/Cj4+ID4KPj4gPkkgYXNrIHRoaXMgYmVjYXVzZSBvZiBhIDIwMDggUXVlc3Rpb24gYnkgQW5k cmV3IFdpdGh5IC0gd2hpY2ggaXMgb24gdGhlCj4+ID53aWtpIGF0Ogo+PiBodHRwOi8vZHEtbnou b3JnL2Rxd2lraS9pbmRleC5waHA/dGl0bGU9VGFsazpSYW5raW5nX0ludGVycnVwdGlvbnMKPj4g Pgo+PiA+Cj4+ID4KPj4gPgo+PiA+LS0KPj4gPktpbmQgcmVnYXJkcywKPj4gPgo+PiA+Sm9uYXRo YW4gQmVhbgo+PiA+MzkgU2Fja3ZpbGxlIFN0LCBHcmV5IEx5bm4KPj4gPlA6ICs2NCA5IDM3OCA2 NjM1Cj4+ID5NOiArNjQgMjEgOTE3IDE3Mwo+PiA+Rzogam9ub2JlYW5AZ21haWwuY29tCj4+Cg== -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz -- | |
| Subject | Re: [dq] Updating the DQ Players Guild 2010 to 2013 |
|---|---|
| From | Neil Davies |
| Date | Fri, 9 Aug 2013 11:05:43 +1200 |
--001a11c385d48e13c504e377b29b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 One comment.... I personally have always taken this 6 month to impose an absolute maximum limit for ranking EVEN for those that can go "greater than max rank". eg you wouldn't ever be able to get above Rk 26 in a ritual, or Rk 13 in a weapon. Buy hey, who wants to be a demon, right? ;-) On 9 August 2013 10:04, Julia <juliamcspadden@gmail.com> wrote: > Aside from the ep thing as mentioned below by Jim. > > The other effect of the rule is .. > > If you are ranking a weapon to 10 and also go on adventure. You must be > back in 6 weeks or loose the time. > > 2 seasons - 26 weeks > Rank 10 - 20 weeks > > I can see room for improvement > Jules > > Jim Arona <jim.arona@gmail.com> wrote: > > >I ignore this rule because it is stupid. > >My version is that you must pay the Experience cost within 6 months of > when > >you have completed the training, otherwise the time or special opportunity > >is is lost > >On Aug 8, 2013 11:44 PM, "Julia" <juliamcspadden@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Unless it has been changed. > >> > >> The rule was you have to pay the ep and finish the training within 6 > >> months of starting. > >> > >> Bit of a pain for master levels and warriors. > >> > >> Seen the ep cost on healer :) > >> > >> Jonathan Bean <jonobean@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >Can anyone tell me what the situation is regarding the training time > and > >> >completing it within 6 months? > >> > > >> >I ask this because of a 2008 Question by Andrew Withy - which is on the > >> >wiki at: > >> http://dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?title=Talk:Ranking_Interruptions > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >-- > >> >Kind regards, > >> > > >> >Jonathan Bean > >> >39 Sackville St, Grey Lynn > >> >P: +64 9 378 6635 > >> >M: +64 21 917 173 > >> >G: jonobean@gmail.com > >> > --001a11c385d48e13c504e377b29b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>One comment.... I personally have always taken t= his 6 month to impose an absolute maximum limit for ranking EVEN for those = that can go "greater than max rank".<br><br>eg you wouldn't e= ver be able to get above Rk 26 in a ritual, or Rk 13 in a weapon.<br> <br></div>Buy hey, who wants to be a demon, right? ;-)<br><br></div></div><= div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 9 August 20= 13 10:04, Julia <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:juliamcspadden@gmai= l.com" target=3D"_blank">juliamcspadden@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Aside from the ep thing as mentioned below b= y Jim.<br> <br> The other effect of the rule is ..<br> <br> If you are ranking a weapon to 10 and also go on adventure. You must be bac= k in 6 weeks or loose the time.<br> <br> 2 seasons - 26 weeks<br> Rank 10 - 20 weeks<br> <br> I can see room for improvement<br> Jules<br> <div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br> Jim Arona <<a href=3D"mailto:jim.arona@gmail.com">jim.arona@gmail.com</a= >> wrote:<br> <br> >I ignore this rule because it is stupid.<br> >My version is that you must pay the Experience cost within 6 months of = when<br> >you have completed the training, otherwise the time or special opportun= ity<br> >is is lost<br> >On Aug 8, 2013 11:44 PM, "Julia" <<a href=3D"mailto:juliam= cspadden@gmail.com">juliamcspadden@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> ><br> >> Unless it has been changed.<br> >><br> >> The rule was you have to pay the ep and finish the training within= 6<br> >> months of starting.<br> >><br> >> Bit of a pain for master levels and warriors.<br> >><br> >> Seen the ep cost on healer =A0:)<br> >><br> >> Jonathan Bean <<a href=3D"mailto:jonobean@gmail.com">jonobean@g= mail.com</a>> wrote:<br> >><br> >> >Can anyone tell me what the situation is regarding the trainin= g time and<br> >> >completing it within 6 months?<br> >> ><br> >> >I ask this because of a 2008 Question by Andrew Withy - which = is on the<br> >> >wiki at:<br> >> <a href=3D"http://dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?title=3DTalk:Ranking_= Interruptions" target=3D"_blank">http://dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?title=3D= Talk:Ranking_Interruptions</a><br> >> ><br> >> ><br> >> ><br> >> ><br> >> >--<br> >> >Kind regards,<br> >> ><br> >> >Jonathan Bean<br> >> >39 Sackville St, Grey Lynn<br> >> >P: <a href=3D"tel:%2B64%209%20378%206635" value=3D"+6493786635= ">+64 9 378 6635</a><br> >> >M: <a href=3D"tel:%2B64%2021%20917%20173" value=3D"+6421917173= ">+64 21 917 173</a><br> >> >G: <a href=3D"mailto:jonobean@gmail.com">jonobean@gmail.com</a= ><br> >><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div> --001a11c385d48e13c504e377b29b-- -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz -- | |
| Subject | Re: [dq] Updating the DQ Players Guild 2010 to 2013 |
|---|---|
| From | Stephen Martin |
| Date | Fri, 9 Aug 2013 11:28:11 +1200 |
The reason the rule was introduced was so that those who wanted to play every session could still work towards the time & xp expensive higher ranks. That we have a time limit at all is to stop those who might be inclined towards the mind-numbing attempt to track and use the 5 days from 2 years ago, 2 weeks from last year, etc. Jim's interpretation of the rule is more accurate to the intent of it than the exact wording was. Unless a player is being a complete pain they should usually be given leeway on this. Cheers, Stephen. On Fri, August 9, 2013 11:05 am, Neil Davies wrote: > One comment.... I personally have always taken this 6 month to impose an > absolute maximum limit for ranking EVEN for those that can go "greater than > max rank". > > eg you wouldn't ever be able to get above Rk 26 in a ritual, or Rk 13 in a > weapon. > > Buy hey, who wants to be a demon, right? ;-) > > > > On 9 August 2013 10:04, Julia <juliamcspadden@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Aside from the ep thing as mentioned below by Jim. >> >> The other effect of the rule is .. >> >> If you are ranking a weapon to 10 and also go on adventure. You must be >> back in 6 weeks or loose the time. >> >> 2 seasons - 26 weeks >> Rank 10 - 20 weeks >> >> I can see room for improvement >> Jules >> >> Jim Arona <jim.arona@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >I ignore this rule because it is stupid. >> >My version is that you must pay the Experience cost within 6 months of >> when >> >you have completed the training, otherwise the time or special opportunity >> >is is lost >> >On Aug 8, 2013 11:44 PM, "Julia" <juliamcspadden@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> Unless it has been changed. >> >> >> >> The rule was you have to pay the ep and finish the training within 6 >> >> months of starting. >> >> >> >> Bit of a pain for master levels and warriors. >> >> >> >> Seen the ep cost on healer :) >> >> >> >> Jonathan Bean <jonobean@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >Can anyone tell me what the situation is regarding the training time >> and >> >> >completing it within 6 months? >> >> > >> >> >I ask this because of a 2008 Question by Andrew Withy - which is on the >> >> >wiki at: >> >> http://dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?title=Talk:Ranking_Interruptions >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >-- >> >> >Kind regards, >> >> > >> >> >Jonathan Bean >> >> >39 Sackville St, Grey Lynn >> >> >P: +64 9 378 6635 >> >> >M: +64 21 917 173 >> >> >G: jonobean@gmail.com >> >> >> > -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz -- | |
| Subject | Re: [dq] Updating the DQ Players Guild 2010 to 2013 |
|---|---|
| From | Dean Ellis |
| Date | Thu, 8 Aug 2013 16:45:44 -0700 (PDT) |
--2119117045-1733864924-1376005544=:71225 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sabrina has a=A0skill that ranks to 20 AND like weapons, so Rank 14 plus we= re all outside the letter of this "law"=0A=A0=0AI=A0dislike the idea of of = a hard and fast rule to reinforce what is basically common sense. Sensible,= contiguous ranking is fine, even over an extended period. Piecemeal rankin= g over years with little rhyme or reason and the bookeeping headache it cre= ates, not so fine.=0A=A0=0ACheers,=0A=A0=0ADean=0A=0A=0A___________________= _____________=0AFrom: Stephen Martin <stephenm@aklnz.net>=0ATo: dq@dq.sf.or= g.nz =0ASent: Friday, August 9, 2013 11:28 AM=0ASubject: Re: [dq] Updating = the DQ Players Guild 2010 to 2013=0A=0A=0AThe reason the rule was introduce= d was so that those who wanted to play every session could=0Astill work tow= ards the time & xp expensive higher ranks.=0A=0AThat we have a time limit a= t all is to stop those who might be inclined towards the=0Amind-numbing att= empt to track and use the 5 days from 2 years ago, 2 weeks from last year,= =0Aetc.=0A=0AJim's interpretation of the rule is more accurate to the inten= t of it than the exact wording was.=0AUnless a player is being a complete p= ain they should usually be given leeway on this.=0A=0ACheers, Stephen.=0A= =0AOn Fri, August 9, 2013 11:05 am, Neil Davies wrote:=0A> One comment.... = I personally have always taken this 6 month to impose an=0A> absolute maxim= um limit for ranking EVEN for those that can go "greater than=0A> max rank"= .=0A>=0A> eg you wouldn't ever be able to get above Rk 26 in a ritual, or R= k 13 in a=0A> weapon.=0A>=0A> Buy hey, who wants to be a demon, right? ;-)= =0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> On 9 August 2013 10:04, Julia <juliamcspadden@gmail.com> w= rote:=0A>=0A>> Aside from the ep thing as mentioned below by Jim.=0A>>=0A>>= The other effect of the rule is ..=0A>>=0A>> If you are ranking a weapon t= o 10 and also go on adventure. You must be=0A>> back in 6 weeks or loose th= e time.=0A>>=0A>> 2 seasons - 26 weeks=0A>> Rank 10 - 20 weeks=0A>>=0A>> I = can see room for improvement=0A>> Jules=0A>>=0A>> Jim Arona <jim.arona@gmai= l.com> wrote:=0A>>=0A>> >I ignore this rule because it is stupid.=0A>> >My = version is that you must pay the Experience cost within 6 months of=0A>> wh= en=0A>> >you have completed the training, otherwise the time or special opp= ortunity=0A>> >is is lost=0A>> >On Aug 8, 2013 11:44 PM, "Julia" <juliamcsp= adden@gmail.com> wrote:=0A>> >=0A>> >> Unless it has been changed.=0A>> >>= =0A>> >> The rule was you have to pay the ep and finish the training within= 6=0A>> >> months of starting.=0A>> >>=0A>> >> Bit of a pain for master lev= els and warriors.=0A>> >>=0A>> >> Seen the ep cost on healer=A0 :)=0A>> >>= =0A>> >> Jonathan Bean <jonobean@gmail.com> wrote:=0A>> >>=0A>> >> >Can any= one tell me what the situation is regarding the training time=0A>> and=0A>>= >> >completing it within 6 months?=0A>> >> >=0A>> >> >I ask this because o= f a 2008 Question by Andrew Withy - which is on the=0A>> >> >wiki at:=0A>> = >> http://dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?title=3DTalk:Ranking_Interruptions=0A>= > >> >=0A>> >> >=0A>> >> >=0A>> >> >=0A>> >> >--=0A>> >> >Kind regards,=0A>= > >> >=0A>> >> >Jonathan Bean=0A>> >> >39 Sackville St, Grey Lynn=0A>> >> >= P: +64 9 378 6635=0A>> >> >M: +64 21 917 173=0A>> >> >G: jonobean@gmail.com= =0A>> >>=0A>>=0A>=0A=0A=0A-- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.= org.nz -- --2119117045-1733864924-1376005544=:71225 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti= mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style=3D"RIGHT: = auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto">Sabrina has a skill that ranks to 20= AND like weapons, so Rank 14 plus were all outside the letter of this "law= "</SPAN></div> <div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto"></SPAN> </div> <div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto">I dislike the i= dea of of a hard and fast rule to reinforce what is basically common sense.= Sensible, contiguous ranking is fine, even over an extended period. Piecem= eal ranking over years with little rhyme or reason and the bookeeping heada= che it creates, not so fine.</SPAN></div> <div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto"></SPAN> </div> <div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto">Cheers,</SPAN></div> <div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMIL= Y: times new roman, new york, times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 1= 6px; RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto"></SPAN> </div> <div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMIL= Y: times new roman, new york, times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 1= 6px; RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto">Dean<VAR id=3Dyui-ie-cursor><= /VAR><VAR id=3Dyui-ie-cursor></VAR></SPAN></div> <div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMIL= Y: times new roman, new york, times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 1= 6px; RIGHT: auto"><BR style=3D"RIGHT: auto"></div> <DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SI= ZE: 12pt"> <DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SI= ZE: 12pt"> <DIV style=3D"RIGHT: auto" dir=3Dltr> <DIV style=3D"BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; P= ADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PAD= DING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; B= ORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px" class=3Dhr contentEditable= =3Dfalse readonly=3D"true"></DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><B><SPAN style= =3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Stephen Martin <stephenm@aklnz.n= et><BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> dq@dq.sf.org.= nz <BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, August= 9, 2013 11:28 AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></= B> Re: [dq] Updating the DQ Players Guild 2010 to 2013<BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV style=3D"RIGHT: auto" class=3Dy_msg_container><BR style=3D"RIGHT: auto= ">The reason the rule was introduced was so that those who wanted to play e= very session could<BR>still work towards the time & xp expensive higher= ranks.<BR><BR>That we have a time limit at all is to stop those who might = be inclined towards the<BR>mind-numbing attempt to track and use the 5 days= from 2 years ago, 2 weeks from last year,<BR>etc.<BR><BR>Jim's interpretat= ion of the rule is more accurate to the intent of it than the exact wording= was.<BR>Unless a player is being a complete pain they should usually be gi= ven leeway on this.<BR><BR>Cheers, Stephen.<BR><BR>On Fri, August 9, 2013 1= 1:05 am, Neil Davies wrote:<BR>> One comment.... I personally have alway= s taken this 6 month to impose an<BR>> absolute maximum limit for rankin= g EVEN for those that can go "greater than<BR>> max rank".<BR>><BR>&g= t; eg you wouldn't ever be able to get above Rk 26 in a ritual, or Rk 13 in a<BR>> weapon.<BR>><BR>> Buy hey, who wants to be a demon, rig= ht? ;-)<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> On 9 August 2013 10:04, Julia <<= A href=3D"mailto:juliamcspadden@gmail.com" ymailto=3D"mailto:juliamcspadden= @gmail.com">juliamcspadden@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>><BR>>> Asi= de from the ep thing as mentioned below by Jim.<BR>>><BR>>> The= other effect of the rule is ..<BR>>><BR>>> If you are ranking = a weapon to 10 and also go on adventure. You must be<BR>>> back in 6 = weeks or loose the time.<BR>>><BR>>> 2 seasons - 26 weeks<BR>&g= t;> Rank 10 - 20 weeks<BR>>><BR>>> I can see room for improv= ement<BR>>> Jules<BR>>><BR>>> Jim Arona <<A href=3D"ma= ilto:jim.arona@gmail.com" ymailto=3D"mailto:jim.arona@gmail.com">jim.arona@= gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>>><BR>>> >I ignore this rule bec= ause it is stupid.<BR>>> >My version is that you must pay the Experience cost within 6 months of<BR>>> when<BR>>> >you ha= ve completed the training, otherwise the time or special opportunity<BR>>= ;> >is is lost<BR>>> >On Aug 8, 2013 11:44 PM, "Julia" <<= A href=3D"mailto:juliamcspadden@gmail.com" ymailto=3D"mailto:juliamcspadden= @gmail.com">juliamcspadden@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>>> ><BR>>= ;> >> Unless it has been changed.<BR>>> >><BR>>>= >> The rule was you have to pay the ep and finish the training withi= n 6<BR>>> >> months of starting.<BR>>> >><BR>>&g= t; >> Bit of a pain for master levels and warriors.<BR>>> >&= gt;<BR>>> >> Seen the ep cost on healer :)<BR>>> &g= t;><BR>>> >> Jonathan Bean <<A href=3D"mailto:jonobean@gm= ail.com" ymailto=3D"mailto:jonobean@gmail.com">jonobean@gmail.com</A>> w= rote:<BR>>> >><BR>>> >> >Can anyone tell me what the situation is regarding the training time<BR>>> and<BR>>> &= gt;> >completing it within 6 months?<BR>>> >> ><BR>>= ;> >> >I ask this because of a 2008 Question by Andrew Withy - = which is on the<BR>>> >> >wiki at:<BR>>> >> http= ://dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?title=3DTalk:Ranking_Interruptions<BR>>>= ; >> ><BR>>> >> ><BR>>> >> ><BR>>= > >> ><BR>>> >> >--<BR>>> >> >Kin= d regards,<BR>>> >> ><BR>>> >> >Jonathan Bean= <BR>>> >> >39 Sackville St, Grey Lynn<BR>>> >> &= gt;P: +64 9 378 6635<BR>>> >> >M: +64 21 917 173<BR>>>= >> >G: <A href=3D"mailto:jonobean@gmail.com" ymailto=3D"mailto:jo= nobean@gmail.com">jonobean@gmail.com</A><BR>>> >><BR>>><B= R>><BR><BR><BR>-- to unsubscribe notify mailto:<A href=3D"mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz" ymailto=3D"mailto:dq-request@dq.sf= .org.nz">dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz</A> --<BR><BR><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV></div>= </body></html> --2119117045-1733864924-1376005544=:71225-- -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz -- | |
| Subject | Re: [dq] Updating the DQ Players Guild 2010 to 2013 |
|---|---|
| From | Jonathan Bean |
| Date | Fri, 9 Aug 2013 14:21:52 +1200 |
--089e0158c9841622bb04e37a701b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 So ... it was talked about on the wiki page and never voted on at a GMs meeting? So where to from here? Jono On 9/08/2013 11:46 AM, "Dean Ellis" <deangellis@yahoo.com> wrote: > Sabrina has a skill that ranks to 20 AND like weapons, so Rank 14 plus > were all outside the letter of this "law" > > I dislike the idea of of a hard and fast rule to reinforce what is > basically common sense. Sensible, contiguous ranking is fine, even over an > extended period. Piecemeal ranking over years with little rhyme or reason > and the bookeeping headache it creates, not so fine. > > Cheers, > > Dean > > *From:* Stephen Martin <stephenm@aklnz.net> > *To:* dq@dq.sf.org.nz > *Sent:* Friday, August 9, 2013 11:28 AM > *Subject:* Re: [dq] Updating the DQ Players Guild 2010 to 2013 > > The reason the rule was introduced was so that those who wanted to play > every session could > still work towards the time & xp expensive higher ranks. > > That we have a time limit at all is to stop those who might be inclined > towards the > mind-numbing attempt to track and use the 5 days from 2 years ago, 2 weeks > from last year, > etc. > > Jim's interpretation of the rule is more accurate to the intent of it than > the exact wording was. > Unless a player is being a complete pain they should usually be given > leeway on this. > > Cheers, Stephen. > > On Fri, August 9, 2013 11:05 am, Neil Davies wrote: > > One comment.... I personally have always taken this 6 month to impose an > > absolute maximum limit for ranking EVEN for those that can go "greater > than > > max rank". > > > > eg you wouldn't ever be able to get above Rk 26 in a ritual, or Rk 13 in > a > > weapon. > > > > Buy hey, who wants to be a demon, right? ;-) > > > > > > > > On 9 August 2013 10:04, Julia <juliamcspadden@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Aside from the ep thing as mentioned below by Jim. > >> > >> The other effect of the rule is .. > >> > >> If you are ranking a weapon to 10 and also go on adventure. You must be > >> back in 6 weeks or loose the time. > >> > >> 2 seasons - 26 weeks > >> Rank 10 - 20 weeks > >> > >> I can see room for improvement > >> Jules > >> > >> Jim Arona <jim.arona@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >I ignore this rule because it is stupid. > >> >My version is that you must pay the Experience cost within 6 months of > >> when > >> >you have completed the training, otherwise the time or special > opportunity > >> >is is lost > >> >On Aug 8, 2013 11:44 PM, "Julia" <juliamcspadden@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Unless it has been changed. > >> >> > >> >> The rule was you have to pay the ep and finish the training within 6 > >> >> months of starting. > >> >> > >> >> Bit of a pain for master levels and warriors. > >> >> > >> >> Seen the ep cost on healer :) > >> >> > >> >> Jonathan Bean <jonobean@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Can anyone tell me what the situation is regarding the training time > >> and > >> >> >completing it within 6 months? > >> >> > > >> >> >I ask this because of a 2008 Question by Andrew Withy - which is on > the > >> >> >wiki at: > >> >> http://dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?title=Talk:Ranking_Interruptions > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >-- > >> >> >Kind regards, > >> >> > > >> >> >Jonathan Bean > >> >> >39 Sackville St, Grey Lynn > >> >> >P: +64 9 378 6635 > >> >> >M: +64 21 917 173 > >> >> >G: jonobean@gmail.com > >> >> > >> > > > > > -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz -- > > > --089e0158c9841622bb04e37a701b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <p dir=3D"ltr">So ... it was talked about on the wiki page and never voted = on at a GMs meeting?=A0 So where to from here?</p> <p dir=3D"ltr">Jono</p> <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 9/08/2013 11:46 AM, "Dean Ellis" &l= t;<a href=3D"mailto:deangellis@yahoo.com">deangellis@yahoo.com</a>> wrot= e:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi= n:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div><div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman,new york,time= s,serif"><div><span>Sabrina has a=A0skill that ranks to 20 AND like weapons= , so Rank 14 plus were all outside the letter of this "law"</span= ></div> <div><span></span>=A0</div> <div><span>I=A0dislike the idea of of a hard and fast rule to reinforce wha= t is basically common sense. Sensible, contiguous ranking is fine, even ove= r an extended period. Piecemeal ranking over years with little rhyme or rea= son and the bookeeping headache it creates, not so fine.</span></div> <div><span></span>=A0</div> <div><span>Cheers,</span></div> <div style=3D"font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent= ;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif"><span></span>=A0</div> <div style=3D"font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent= ;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif"><span>Dean<var></var><va= r></var></span></div> <div style=3D"font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent= ;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif"><br></div> <div style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:times new roman,new york,times,serif;FONT-SIZE:12= pt"> <div style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:times new roman,new york,times,serif;FONT-SIZE:12= pt"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <div style=3D"BORDER-BOTTOM:#ccc 1px solid;BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;PADDI= NG-BOTTOM:0px;LINE-HEIGHT:0;MARGIN:5px 0px;PADDING-LEFT:0px;PADDING-RIGHT:0= px;min-height:0px;FONT-SIZE:0px;BORDER-TOP:#ccc 1px solid;BORDER-RIGHT:#ccc= 1px solid;PADDING-TOP:0px" readonly> </div><font face=3D"Arial"><b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:bold">From:</span>= </b> Stephen Martin <<a href=3D"mailto:stephenm@aklnz.net" target=3D"_bl= ank">stephenm@aklnz.net</a>><br><b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:bold">To:<= /span></b> <a href=3D"mailto:dq@dq.sf.org.nz" target=3D"_blank">dq@dq.sf.or= g.nz</a> <br> <b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, August 9, 2013= 11:28 AM<br><b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [d= q] Updating the DQ Players Guild 2010 to 2013<br></font></div> <div><br>The reason the rule was introduced was so that those who wanted to= play every session could<br>still work towards the time & xp expensive= higher ranks.<br><br>That we have a time limit at all is to stop those who= might be inclined towards the<br> mind-numbing attempt to track and use the 5 days from 2 years ago, 2 weeks = from last year,<br>etc.<br><br>Jim's interpretation of the rule is more= accurate to the intent of it than the exact wording was.<br>Unless a playe= r is being a complete pain they should usually be given leeway on this.<br> <br>Cheers, Stephen.<br><br>On Fri, August 9, 2013 11:05 am, Neil Davies wr= ote:<br>> One comment.... I personally have always taken this 6 month to= impose an<br>> absolute maximum limit for ranking EVEN for those that c= an go "greater than<br> > max rank".<br>><br>> eg you wouldn't ever be able to ge= t above Rk 26 in a ritual, or Rk 13 in a<br>> weapon.<br>><br>> Buy hey, who wants to be a demon, rig= ht? ;-)<br>><br>><br>><br>> On 9 August 2013 10:04, Julia <<= a href=3D"mailto:juliamcspadden@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">juliamcspadden= @gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> ><br>>> Aside from the ep thing as mentioned below by Jim.<br>>= ><br>>> The other effect of the rule is ..<br>>><br>>>= If you are ranking a weapon to 10 and also go on adventure. You must be<br= > >> back in 6 weeks or loose the time.<br>>><br>>> 2 seaso= ns - 26 weeks<br>>> Rank 10 - 20 weeks<br>>><br>>> I can = see room for improvement<br>>> Jules<br>>><br>>> Jim Aron= a <<a href=3D"mailto:jim.arona@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jim.arona@gm= ail.com</a>> wrote:<br> >><br>>> >I ignore this rule because it is stupid.<br>>&g= t; >My version is that you must pay the Experience cost within 6 months of<br>>> when<br>>> >you ha= ve completed the training, otherwise the time or special opportunity<br>>= ;> >is is lost<br>>> >On Aug 8, 2013 11:44 PM, "Julia&q= uot; <<a href=3D"mailto:juliamcspadden@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">juli= amcspadden@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> >> ><br>>> >> Unless it has been changed.<br>>> = >><br>>> >> The rule was you have to pay the ep and finis= h the training within 6<br>>> >> months of starting.<br>>>= ; >><br> >> >> Bit of a pain for master levels and warriors.<br>>>= >><br>>> >> Seen the ep cost on healer=A0 :)<br>>>= >><br>>> >> Jonathan Bean <<a href=3D"mailto:jonobean= @gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jonobean@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> >> >><br>>> >> >Can anyone tell me what the situation is regarding the training time<br>>> and<br>>> &= gt;> >completing it within 6 months?<br>>> >> ><br>>= ;> >> >I ask this because of a 2008 Question by Andrew Withy - = which is on the<br> >> >> >wiki at:<br>>> >> <a href=3D"http://dq-nz= .org/dqwiki/index.php?title=3DTalk:Ranking_Interruptions" target=3D"_blank"= >http://dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?title=3DTalk:Ranking_Interruptions</a><b= r>>> >> ><br> >> >> ><br>>> >> ><br>>> >> ><= br>>> >> >--<br>>> >> >Kind regards,<br>>&= gt; >> ><br>>> >> >Jonathan Bean<br>>> >&g= t; >39 Sackville St, Grey Lynn<br> >> >> >P: <a href=3D"tel:%2B64%209%20378%206635" value=3D"+6= 493786635" target=3D"_blank">+64 9 378 6635</a><br>>> >> >M:= <a href=3D"tel:%2B64%2021%20917%20173" value=3D"+6421917173" target=3D"_bl= ank">+64 21 917 173</a><br> >> >> >G: <a href=3D"mailto:jonobean@gmail.com" target=3D"_b= lank">jonobean@gmail.com</a><br>>> >><br>>><br>><br><b= r><br>-- to unsubscribe notify mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.or= g.nz" target=3D"_blank">dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz</a> --<br> <br><br></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div> --089e0158c9841622bb04e37a701b-- -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz -- | |
| Subject | Re: [dq] Updating the DQ Players Guild 2010 to 2013 |
|---|---|
| From | Errol Cavit |
| Date | Fri, 9 Aug 2013 14:39:38 +1200 |
--_000_6764EC8E0FF840458327C0CAA5D3E8D0348C1F452Anzexmaln01tol_
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Suggest a different rule, listen to feedback, propose it (or a modified ver=
sion) for voting - seems to be most effective.
From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] On Behalf Of Jon=
athan Bean
Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013 2:22 p.m.
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: Re: [dq] Updating the DQ Players Guild 2010 to 2013
So ... it was talked about on the wiki page and never voted on at a GMs mee=
ting? So where to from here?
Jono
On 9/08/2013 11:46 AM, "Dean Ellis" <deangellis@yahoo.com<mailto:deangellis=
@yahoo.com>> wrote:
Sabrina has a skill that ranks to 20 AND like weapons, so Rank 14 plus were=
all outside the letter of this "law"
I dislike the idea of of a hard and fast rule to reinforce what is basicall=
y common sense. Sensible, contiguous ranking is fine, even over an extended=
period. Piecemeal ranking over years with little rhyme or reason and the b=
ookeeping headache it creates, not so fine.
Cheers,
Dean
From: Stephen Martin <stephenm@aklnz.net<mailto:stephenm@aklnz.net>>
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz<mailto:dq@dq.sf.org.nz>
Sent: Friday, August 9, 2013 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [dq] Updating the DQ Players Guild 2010 to 2013
The reason the rule was introduced was so that those who wanted to play eve=
ry session could
still work towards the time & xp expensive higher ranks.
That we have a time limit at all is to stop those who might be inclined tow=
ards the
mind-numbing attempt to track and use the 5 days from 2 years ago, 2 weeks =
from last year,
etc.
Jim's interpretation of the rule is more accurate to the intent of it than =
the exact wording was.
Unless a player is being a complete pain they should usually be given leewa=
y on this.
Cheers, Stephen.
On Fri, August 9, 2013 11:05 am, Neil Davies wrote:
> One comment.... I personally have always taken this 6 month to impose an
> absolute maximum limit for ranking EVEN for those that can go "greater th=
an
> max rank".
>
> eg you wouldn't ever be able to get above Rk 26 in a ritual, or Rk 13 in =
a
> weapon.
>
> Buy hey, who wants to be a demon, right? ;-)
>
>
>
> On 9 August 2013 10:04, Julia <juliamcspadden@gmail.com<mailto:juliamcspa=
dden@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> Aside from the ep thing as mentioned below by Jim.
>>
>> The other effect of the rule is ..
>>
>> If you are ranking a weapon to 10 and also go on adventure. You must be
>> back in 6 weeks or loose the time.
>>
>> 2 seasons - 26 weeks
>> Rank 10 - 20 weeks
>>
>> I can see room for improvement
>> Jules
>>
>> Jim Arona <jim.arona@gmail.com<mailto:jim.arona@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> >I ignore this rule because it is stupid.
>> >My version is that you must pay the Experience cost within 6 months of
>> when
>> >you have completed the training, otherwise the time or special opportun=
ity
>> >is is lost
>> >On Aug 8, 2013 11:44 PM, "Julia" <juliamcspadden@gmail.com<mailto:julia=
mcspadden@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Unless it has been changed.
>> >>
>> >> The rule was you have to pay the ep and finish the training within 6
>> >> months of starting.
>> >>
>> >> Bit of a pain for master levels and warriors.
>> >>
>> >> Seen the ep cost on healer :)
>> >>
>> >> Jonathan Bean <jonobean@gmail.com<mailto:jonobean@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Can anyone tell me what the situation is regarding the training time
>> and
>> >> >completing it within 6 months?
>> >> >
>> >> >I ask this because of a 2008 Question by Andrew Withy - which is on =
the
>> >> >wiki at:
>> >> http://dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?title=3DTalk:Ranking_Interruptions
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >Kind regards,
>> >> >
>> >> >Jonathan Bean
>> >> >39 Sackville St, Grey Lynn
>> >> >P: +64 9 378 6635<tel:%2B64%209%20378%206635>
>> >> >M: +64 21 917 173<tel:%2B64%2021%20917%20173>
>> >> >G: jonobean@gmail.com<mailto:jonobean@gmail.com>
>> >>
>>
>
-- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz<mailto:dq-request@d=
q.sf.org.nz> --
--_000_6764EC8E0FF840458327C0CAA5D3E8D0348C1F452Anzexmaln01tol_
Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-micr=
osoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" =
xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns=3D"http:=
//www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=
=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii"><meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Micros=
oft Word 12 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Tahoma;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0cm;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:purple;
text-decoration:underline;}
p
{mso-style-priority:99;
mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
margin-right:0cm;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:0cm;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
p.MsoAcetate, li.MsoAcetate, div.MsoAcetate
{mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"Balloon Text Char";
margin:0cm;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:8.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";}
span.BalloonTextChar
{mso-style-name:"Balloon Text Char";
mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"Balloon Text";
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";}
span.EmailStyle21
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D;}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;}
@page WordSection1
{size:612.0pt 792.0pt;
margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;}
div.WordSection1
{page:WordSection1;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit">
<o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=3DEN-NZ link=3Dblue vli=
nk=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'f=
ont-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Suggest a=
different rule, listen to feedback, propose it (or a modified version) for=
voting – seems to be most effective.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-se=
rif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style=3D'border:none;b=
order-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style=3D'b=
order:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p cla=
ss=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:=
dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jonathan Bean<br><b>Sent:</b> Fr=
iday, 9 August 2013 2:22 p.m.<br><b>To:</b> dq@dq.sf.org.nz<br><b>Subject:<=
/b> Re: [dq] Updating the DQ Players Guild 2010 to 2013<o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p>So ... it was ta=
lked about on the wiki page and never voted on at a GMs meeting? So w=
here to from here?<o:p></o:p></p><p>Jono<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal>On 9/08/2013 11:46 AM, "Dean Ellis" <<a href=3D"mailto:d=
eangellis@yahoo.com">deangellis@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div=
><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sabrina has a skill that ranks to 20 A=
ND like weapons, so Rank 14 plus were all outside the letter of this "=
law"<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></=
p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I dislike the idea of of a hard and =
fast rule to reinforce what is basically common sense. Sensible, contiguous=
ranking is fine, even over an extended period. Piecemeal ranking over year=
s with little rhyme or reason and the bookeeping headache it creates, not s=
o fine.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Dean<o:p>=
</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><=
div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-s=
erif"'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> St=
ephen Martin <<a href=3D"mailto:stephenm@aklnz.net" target=3D"_blank">st=
ephenm@aklnz.net</a>><br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:dq@dq.sf.org.nz" t=
arget=3D"_blank">dq@dq.sf.org.nz</a> <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 9, 201=
3 11:28 AM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [dq] Updating the DQ Players Guild 2010 t=
o 2013</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin=
-bottom:12.0pt'><br>The reason the rule was introduced was so that those wh=
o wanted to play every session could<br>still work towards the time & x=
p expensive higher ranks.<br><br>That we have a time limit at all is to sto=
p those who might be inclined towards the<br>mind-numbing attempt to track =
and use the 5 days from 2 years ago, 2 weeks from last year,<br>etc.<br><br=
>Jim's interpretation of the rule is more accurate to the intent of it than=
the exact wording was.<br>Unless a player is being a complete pain they sh=
ould usually be given leeway on this.<br><br>Cheers, Stephen.<br><br>On Fri=
, August 9, 2013 11:05 am, Neil Davies wrote:<br>> One comment.... I per=
sonally have always taken this 6 month to impose an<br>> absolute maximu=
m limit for ranking EVEN for those that can go "greater than<br>> m=
ax rank".<br>><br>> eg you wouldn't ever be able to get above Rk=
26 in a ritual, or Rk 13 in a<br>> weapon.<br>><br>> Buy hey, who=
wants to be a demon, right? ;-)<br>><br>><br>><br>> On 9 Augus=
t 2013 10:04, Julia <<a href=3D"mailto:juliamcspadden@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">juliamcspadden@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>><br>>> Asi=
de from the ep thing as mentioned below by Jim.<br>>><br>>> The=
other effect of the rule is ..<br>>><br>>> If you are ranking =
a weapon to 10 and also go on adventure. You must be<br>>> back in 6 =
weeks or loose the time.<br>>><br>>> 2 seasons - 26 weeks<br>&g=
t;> Rank 10 - 20 weeks<br>>><br>>> I can see room for improv=
ement<br>>> Jules<br>>><br>>> Jim Arona <<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:jim.arona@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jim.arona@gmail.com</a>> wro=
te:<br>>><br>>> >I ignore this rule because it is stupid.<br=
>>> >My version is that you must pay the Experience cost within 6 =
months of<br>>> when<br>>> >you have completed the training,=
otherwise the time or special opportunity<br>>> >is is lost<br>&g=
t;> >On Aug 8, 2013 11:44 PM, "Julia" <<a href=3D"mailto=
:juliamcspadden@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">juliamcspadden@gmail.com</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br>>> ><br>>> >> Unless it has been changed.=
<br>>> >><br>>> >> The rule was you have to pay the=
ep and finish the training within 6<br>>> >> months of startin=
g.<br>>> >><br>>> >> Bit of a pain for master level=
s and warriors.<br>>> >><br>>> >> Seen the ep cost =
on healer :)<br>>> >><br>>> >> Jonathan Bean =
<<a href=3D"mailto:jonobean@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jonobean@gmail.=
com</a>> wrote:<br>>> >><br>>> >> >Can anyone=
tell me what the situation is regarding the training time<br>>> and<=
br>>> >> >completing it within 6 months?<br>>> >>=
; ><br>>> >> >I ask this because of a 2008 Question by An=
drew Withy - which is on the<br>>> >> >wiki at:<br>>> =
>> <a href=3D"http://dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?title=3DTalk:Ranking_=
Interruptions" target=3D"_blank">http://dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?title=3D=
Talk:Ranking_Interruptions</a><br>>> >> ><br>>> >&g=
t; ><br>>> >> ><br>>> >> ><br>>> >=
;> >--<br>>> >> >Kind regards,<br>>> >> &g=
t;<br>>> >> >Jonathan Bean<br>>> >> >39 Sackv=
ille St, Grey Lynn<br>>> >> >P: <a href=3D"tel:%2B64%209%203=
78%206635" target=3D"_blank">+64 9 378 6635</a><br>>> >> >M:=
<a href=3D"tel:%2B64%2021%20917%20173" target=3D"_blank">+64 21 917 173</a=
><br>>> >> >G: <a href=3D"mailto:jonobean@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">jonobean@gmail.com</a><br>>> >><br>>><br>>=
<br><br><br>-- to unsubscribe notify mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:dq-request@dq=
.sf.org.nz" target=3D"_blank">dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz</a> --<br><br><o:p></=
o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>=
--_000_6764EC8E0FF840458327C0CAA5D3E8D0348C1F452Anzexmaln01tol_--
-- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz --
| |
| Subject | Re: [dq] Updating the DQ Players Guild 2010 to 2013 |
|---|---|
| From | Stephen Martin |
| Date | Fri, 9 Aug 2013 14:49:53 +1200 |
Propose something short and reasonable and we'll rubber stamp it at the guild mtg then we don't need to bring it up again in another 8 years. :-) E.g. Time spent training for a particular rank of an ability may be interrupted by other activity (including being on adventure). However training for a given rank must be resumed within 6 months of interrupting the training. On Fri, August 9, 2013 2:21 pm, Jonathan Bean wrote: > So ... it was talked about on the wiki page and never voted on at a GMs > meeting? So where to from here? > > Jono > On 9/08/2013 11:46 AM, "Dean Ellis" <deangellis@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Sabrina has a skill that ranks to 20 AND like weapons, so Rank 14 plus >> were all outside the letter of this "law" >> >> I dislike the idea of of a hard and fast rule to reinforce what is >> basically common sense. Sensible, contiguous ranking is fine, even over an >> extended period. Piecemeal ranking over years with little rhyme or reason >> and the bookeeping headache it creates, not so fine. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Dean >> >> *From:* Stephen Martin <stephenm@aklnz.net> >> *To:* dq@dq.sf.org.nz >> *Sent:* Friday, August 9, 2013 11:28 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [dq] Updating the DQ Players Guild 2010 to 2013 >> >> The reason the rule was introduced was so that those who wanted to play >> every session could >> still work towards the time & xp expensive higher ranks. >> >> That we have a time limit at all is to stop those who might be inclined >> towards the >> mind-numbing attempt to track and use the 5 days from 2 years ago, 2 weeks >> from last year, >> etc. >> >> Jim's interpretation of the rule is more accurate to the intent of it than >> the exact wording was. >> Unless a player is being a complete pain they should usually be given >> leeway on this. >> >> Cheers, Stephen. >> >> On Fri, August 9, 2013 11:05 am, Neil Davies wrote: >> > One comment.... I personally have always taken this 6 month to impose an >> > absolute maximum limit for ranking EVEN for those that can go "greater >> than >> > max rank". >> > >> > eg you wouldn't ever be able to get above Rk 26 in a ritual, or Rk 13 in >> a >> > weapon. >> > >> > Buy hey, who wants to be a demon, right? ;-) >> > >> > >> > >> > On 9 August 2013 10:04, Julia <juliamcspadden@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> Aside from the ep thing as mentioned below by Jim. >> >> >> >> The other effect of the rule is .. >> >> >> >> If you are ranking a weapon to 10 and also go on adventure. You must be >> >> back in 6 weeks or loose the time. >> >> >> >> 2 seasons - 26 weeks >> >> Rank 10 - 20 weeks >> >> >> >> I can see room for improvement >> >> Jules >> >> >> >> Jim Arona <jim.arona@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >I ignore this rule because it is stupid. >> >> >My version is that you must pay the Experience cost within 6 months of >> >> when >> >> >you have completed the training, otherwise the time or special >> opportunity >> >> >is is lost >> >> >On Aug 8, 2013 11:44 PM, "Julia" <juliamcspadden@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Unless it has been changed. >> >> >> >> >> >> The rule was you have to pay the ep and finish the training within 6 >> >> >> months of starting. >> >> >> >> >> >> Bit of a pain for master levels and warriors. >> >> >> >> >> >> Seen the ep cost on healer :) >> >> >> >> >> >> Jonathan Bean <jonobean@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >Can anyone tell me what the situation is regarding the training time >> >> and >> >> >> >completing it within 6 months? >> >> >> > >> >> >> >I ask this because of a 2008 Question by Andrew Withy - which is on >> the >> >> >> >wiki at: >> >> >> http://dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?title=Talk:Ranking_Interruptions >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >-- >> >> >> >Kind regards, >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Jonathan Bean >> >> >> >39 Sackville St, Grey Lynn >> >> >> >P: +64 9 378 6635 >> >> >> >M: +64 21 917 173 >> >> >> >G: jonobean@gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz -- >> >> >> > -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz -- | |
| Subject | [dq] Removing/reducing Limits on Traning Time WAS: [dq] Updating the DQ Players Guild 2010 to 2013 |
|---|---|
| From | Ian Wood |
| Date | Fri, 9 Aug 2013 21:27:06 +1200 |
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
------=_NextPart_000_00C4_01CE9547.32EE0780
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Current rule:
"Time spent training for a particular rank of an ability may be interrupted
by other activity (including being on adventure). However training for a
given rank must be completed within 6 months of starting training for that
rank. "
suggestion one:
"Time spent training for a particular rank of an ability may be interrupted
by other activity (including being on adventure). However training for a
given rank must be RESUMED within 6 months of starting training for that
rank. "
suggestion two:
"The new Rank is not effective until the full amount of Time, EP and money
has been completely spent on the ranking. Ranking may be interrupted by
other activity (including being on adventure), although ranking for a given
rank SHOULD be completed within 6 months of starting that ranking. "
(capitalisation for sake of clarity)
I like Andrew's comments on the wiki, why do we need to limit someone? if
they want to do advanced bookkeeping, i would let them.
I prefer Option 2, i think it relfects the rules, reinforces all three
expenditures have to be (earnt and) paid, and turns the hard limit into a
guideline.
cheers, Ian
_____
From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] On Behalf Of
Errol Cavit
Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013 14:40
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: Re: [dq] Updating the DQ Players Guild 2010 to 2013
Suggest a different rule, listen to feedback, propose it (or a modified
version) for voting - seems to be most effective.
From: dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] On Behalf Of
Jonathan Bean
Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013 2:22 p.m.
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Subject: Re: [dq] Updating the DQ Players Guild 2010 to 2013
So ... it was talked about on the wiki page and never voted on at a GMs
meeting? So where to from here?
Jono
On 9/08/2013 11:46 AM, "Dean Ellis" <deangellis@yahoo.com> wrote:
Sabrina has a skill that ranks to 20 AND like weapons, so Rank 14 plus were
all outside the letter of this "law"
I dislike the idea of of a hard and fast rule to reinforce what is basically
common sense. Sensible, contiguous ranking is fine, even over an extended
period. Piecemeal ranking over years with little rhyme or reason and the
bookeeping headache it creates, not so fine.
Cheers,
Dean
From: Stephen Martin <stephenm@aklnz.net>
To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz
Sent: Friday, August 9, 2013 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [dq] Updating the DQ Players Guild 2010 to 2013
The reason the rule was introduced was so that those who wanted to play
every session could
still work towards the time & xp expensive higher ranks.
That we have a time limit at all is to stop those who might be inclined
towards the
mind-numbing attempt to track and use the 5 days from 2 years ago, 2 weeks
from last year,
etc.
Jim's interpretation of the rule is more accurate to the intent of it than
the exact wording was.
Unless a player is being a complete pain they should usually be given leeway
on this.
Cheers, Stephen.
On Fri, August 9, 2013 11:05 am, Neil Davies wrote:
> One comment.... I personally have always taken this 6 month to impose an
> absolute maximum limit for ranking EVEN for those that can go "greater
than
> max rank".
>
> eg you wouldn't ever be able to get above Rk 26 in a ritual, or Rk 13 in a
> weapon.
>
> Buy hey, who wants to be a demon, right? ;-)
>
>
>
> On 9 August 2013 10:04, Julia <juliamcspadden@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Aside from the ep thing as mentioned below by Jim.
>>
>> The other effect of the rule is ..
>>
>> If you are ranking a weapon to 10 and also go on adventure. You must be
>> back in 6 weeks or loose the time.
>>
>> 2 seasons - 26 weeks
>> Rank 10 - 20 weeks
>>
>> I can see room for improvement
>> Jules
>>
>> Jim Arona <jim.arona@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I ignore this rule because it is stupid.
>> >My version is that you must pay the Experience cost within 6 months of
>> when
>> >you have completed the training, otherwise the time or special
opportunity
>> >is is lost
>> >On Aug 8, 2013 11:44 PM, "Julia" <juliamcspadden@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Unless it has been changed.
>> >>
>> >> The rule was you have to pay the ep and finish the training within 6
>> >> months of starting.
>> >>
>> >> Bit of a pain for master levels and warriors.
>> >>
>> >> Seen the ep cost on healer :)
>> >>
>> >> Jonathan Bean <jonobean@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Can anyone tell me what the situation is regarding the training time
>> and
>> >> >completing it within 6 months?
>> >> >
>> >> >I ask this because of a 2008 Question by Andrew Withy - which is on
the
>> >> >wiki at:
>> >> http://dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?title=Talk:Ranking_Interruptions
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >Kind regards,
>> >> >
>> >> >Jonathan Bean
>> >> >39 Sackville St, Grey Lynn
>> >> >P: +64 9 378 <tel:%2B64%209%20378%206635> 6635
>> >> >M: +64 21 917 173 <tel:%2B64%2021%20917%20173>
>> >> >G: jonobean@gmail.com
>> >>
>>
>
-- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz --
_____
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2013.0.3267 / Virus Database: 3209/6557 - Release Date: 08/06/13
_____
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2013.0.3267 / Virus Database: 3209/6557 - Release Date: 08/06/13
------=_NextPart_000_00C4_01CE9547.32EE0780
Content-Type: text/html;
charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v =3D=20
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o =3D=20
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w =3D=20
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m =3D=20
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml"><HEAD>
<META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii" =
http-equiv=3DContent-Type>
<META name=3DGENERATOR content=3D"MSHTML 8.00.6001.23507">
<STYLE>@font-face {
font-family: Calibri;
}
@font-face {
font-family: Tahoma;
}
@page WordSection1 {size: 612.0pt 792.0pt; margin: 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt =
72.0pt; }
P.MsoNormal {
MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif"; FONT-SIZE: =
12pt
}
LI.MsoNormal {
MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif"; FONT-SIZE: =
12pt
}
DIV.MsoNormal {
MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif"; FONT-SIZE: =
12pt
}
A:link {
COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99
}
SPAN.MsoHyperlink {
COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99
}
A:visited {
COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99
}
SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {
COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99
}
P {
FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif"; MARGIN-LEFT: 0cm; FONT-SIZE: =
12pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0cm; mso-style-priority: 99; mso-margin-top-alt: =
auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto
}
P.MsoAcetate {
MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; FONT-SIZE: =
8pt; mso-style-priority: 99; mso-style-link: "Balloon Text Char"
}
LI.MsoAcetate {
MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; FONT-SIZE: =
8pt; mso-style-priority: 99; mso-style-link: "Balloon Text Char"
}
DIV.MsoAcetate {
MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; FONT-SIZE: =
8pt; mso-style-priority: 99; mso-style-link: "Balloon Text Char"
}
SPAN.BalloonTextChar {
FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; mso-style-priority: 99; =
mso-style-link: "Balloon Text"; mso-style-name: "Balloon Text Char"
}
SPAN.EmailStyle21 {
FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d; mso-style-type: =
personal-reply
}
..MsoChpDefault {
mso-style-type: export-only
}
DIV.WordSection1 {
page: WordSection1
}
</STYLE>
<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit">
<o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></HEAD>
<BODY lang=3DEN-NZ link=3Dblue vLink=3Dpurple>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D843221207-09082013><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2 face=3DArial>Current rule:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>"Time spent training for a =
particular rank=20
of an ability may be interrupted by other activity (including being on=20
adventure). However training for a given rank must be completed within 6 =
months=20
of starting training for that rank. "</FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=20
face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft></SPAN><SPAN =
class=3D843221207-09082013><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial>suggestion =
one:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D843221207-09082013>
<DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT =
size=3D2>"Time spent=20
training for a particular rank of an ability may be interrupted by other =
activity (including being on adventure). However training for a given =
rank must=20
be <SPAN class=3D843221207-09082013>RESUMED </SPAN>within 6 months =
of=20
starting training for that rank. "</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr><SPAN class=3D843221207-09082013><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2=20
face=3DArial>suggestion two:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr><SPAN class=3D843221207-09082013>
<DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial>"<SPAN=20
class=3D843221207-09082013>The new Rank is not effective until the=20
full amount of Time, EP and money has been=20
completely </SPAN>spent <SPAN=20
class=3D843221207-09082013>on</SPAN> <SPAN=20
class=3D843221207-09082013>the </SPAN>rank<SPAN=20
class=3D843221207-09082013>ing</SPAN><SPAN class=3D843221207-09082013>.=20
Ranking </SPAN>may be interrupted by other activity (including =
being on=20
adventure)<SPAN class=3D843221207-09082013>, although</SPAN> <SPAN=20
class=3D843221207-09082013>ranking</SPAN> for a given rank <SPAN=20
class=3D843221207-09082013>SHOULD</SPAN> be completed within 6 months of =
starting that rank<SPAN class=3D843221207-09082013>ing</SPAN>.=20
"</FONT></DIV></SPAN></DIV></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D843221207-09082013><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=20
face=3DArial>(capitalisation for sake of clarity)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D843221207-09082013><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000><SPAN class=3D843221207-09082013><FONT =
size=3D2=20
face=3DArial>I like Andrew's comments on the wiki, why do we need to =
limit=20
someone? if they want to do advanced bookkeeping, i would let=20
them.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000><SPAN class=3D843221207-09082013><FONT =
size=3D2=20
face=3DArial>I prefer Option 2, i think it relfects the rules, =
reinforces all=20
three expenditures have to be (earnt and) paid, and turns the hard limit =
into a=20
guideline.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000><SPAN class=3D843221207-09082013><FONT =
size=3D2=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000><SPAN class=3D843221207-09082013><FONT =
size=3D2=20
face=3DArial>cheers, Ian</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV></FONT>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20
dir=3Dltr>
<DIV dir=3Dltr lang=3Den-us class=3DOutlookMessageHeader align=3Dleft>
<HR tabIndex=3D-1>
<FONT size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><B>From:</B> dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz=20
[mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Errol =
Cavit<BR><B>Sent:</B>=20
Friday, 9 August 2013 14:40<BR><B>To:</B> =
dq@dq.sf.org.nz<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
Re: [dq] Updating the DQ Players Guild 2010 to =
2013<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=3DWordSection1>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; =
FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Suggest=20
a different rule, listen to feedback, propose it (or a modified =
version) for=20
voting – seems to be most effective.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; =
FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: blue 1.5pt solid; =
PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: =
medium none; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0cm">
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; =
PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: =
#b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt">
<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"=20
lang=3DEN-US>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" =
lang=3DEN-US>=20
dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz [mailto:dq-owner@dq.sf.org.nz] <B>On Behalf Of=20
</B>Jonathan Bean<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, 9 August 2013 2:22=20
p.m.<BR><B>To:</B> dq@dq.sf.org.nz<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [dq] =
Updating the DQ=20
Players Guild 2010 to 2013<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P>So ... it was talked about on the wiki page and never voted on at a =
GMs=20
meeting? So where to from here?<o:p></o:p></P>
<P>Jono<o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>On 9/08/2013 11:46 AM, "Dean Ellis" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:deangellis@yahoo.com">deangellis@yahoo.com</A>>=20
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Sabrina has a skill that ranks to 20 AND =
like weapons,=20
so Rank 14 plus were all outside the letter of this =
"law"<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>I dislike the idea of of a hard and fast =
rule to=20
reinforce what is basically common sense. Sensible, contiguous ranking =
is=20
fine, even over an extended period. Piecemeal ranking over years with =
little=20
rhyme or reason and the bookeeping headache it creates, not so=20
fine.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Dean<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> Stephen Martin <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:stephenm@aklnz.net"=20
target=3D_blank>stephenm@aklnz.net</A>><BR><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:dq@dq.sf.org.nz" target=3D_blank>dq@dq.sf.org.nz</A>=20
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 9, 2013 11:28 AM<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
Re: [dq]=20
Updating the DQ Players Guild 2010 to 2013</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=3DMsoNormal><BR>The reason the =
rule was=20
introduced was so that those who wanted to play every session =
could<BR>still=20
work towards the time & xp expensive higher ranks.<BR><BR>That we =
have a=20
time limit at all is to stop those who might be inclined towards=20
the<BR>mind-numbing attempt to track and use the 5 days from 2 years =
ago, 2=20
weeks from last year,<BR>etc.<BR><BR>Jim's interpretation of the rule =
is more=20
accurate to the intent of it than the exact wording was.<BR>Unless a =
player is=20
being a complete pain they should usually be given leeway on=20
this.<BR><BR>Cheers, Stephen.<BR><BR>On Fri, August 9, 2013 11:05 am, =
Neil=20
Davies wrote:<BR>> One comment.... I personally have always taken =
this 6=20
month to impose an<BR>> absolute maximum limit for ranking EVEN for =
those=20
that can go "greater than<BR>> max rank".<BR>><BR>> eg you =
wouldn't=20
ever be able to get above Rk 26 in a ritual, or Rk 13 in a<BR>>=20
weapon.<BR>><BR>> Buy hey, who wants to be a demon, right?=20
;-)<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> On 9 August 2013 10:04, Julia =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:juliamcspadden@gmail.com"=20
target=3D_blank>juliamcspadden@gmail.com</A>> =
wrote:<BR>><BR>>>=20
Aside from the ep thing as mentioned below by =
Jim.<BR>>><BR>>> The=20
other effect of the rule is ..<BR>>><BR>>> If you are =
ranking a=20
weapon to 10 and also go on adventure. You must be<BR>>> back in =
6 weeks=20
or loose the time.<BR>>><BR>>> 2 seasons - 26 =
weeks<BR>>>=20
Rank 10 - 20 weeks<BR>>><BR>>> I can see room for=20
improvement<BR>>> Jules<BR>>><BR>>> Jim Arona <<A =
href=3D"mailto:jim.arona@gmail.com" =
target=3D_blank>jim.arona@gmail.com</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>>><BR>>> >I ignore this rule because it is=20
stupid.<BR>>> >My version is that you must pay the Experience =
cost=20
within 6 months of<BR>>> when<BR>>> >you have completed =
the=20
training, otherwise the time or special opportunity<BR>>> >is =
is=20
lost<BR>>> >On Aug 8, 2013 11:44 PM, "Julia" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:juliamcspadden@gmail.com"=20
target=3D_blank>juliamcspadden@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>>>=20
><BR>>> >> Unless it has been changed.<BR>>>=20
>><BR>>> >> The rule was you have to pay the ep and =
finish=20
the training within 6<BR>>> >> months of =
starting.<BR>>>=20
>><BR>>> >> Bit of a pain for master levels and=20
warriors.<BR>>> >><BR>>> >> Seen the ep cost =
on=20
healer :)<BR>>> >><BR>>> >> Jonathan =
Bean <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:jonobean@gmail.com" =
target=3D_blank>jonobean@gmail.com</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>>> >><BR>>> >> >Can anyone tell =
me what=20
the situation is regarding the training time<BR>>> =
and<BR>>>=20
>> >completing it within 6 months?<BR>>> >>=20
><BR>>> >> >I ask this because of a 2008 Question by =
Andrew=20
Withy - which is on the<BR>>> >> >wiki at:<BR>>> =
>>=20
<A =
href=3D"http://dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?title=3DTalk:Ranking_Interrupti=
ons"=20
=
target=3D_blank>http://dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?title=3DTalk:Ranking_In=
terruptions</A><BR>>>=20
>> ><BR>>> >> ><BR>>> >> =
><BR>>>=20
>> ><BR>>> >> >--<BR>>> >> =
>Kind=20
regards,<BR>>> >> ><BR>>> >> >Jonathan=20
Bean<BR>>> >> >39 Sackville St, Grey Lynn<BR>>> =
>>=20
>P: <A href=3D"tel:%2B64%209%20378%206635" target=3D_blank>+64 9 =
378=20
6635</A><BR>>> >> >M: <A =
href=3D"tel:%2B64%2021%20917%20173"=20
target=3D_blank>+64 21 917 173</A><BR>>> >> >G: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:jonobean@gmail.com"=20
target=3D_blank>jonobean@gmail.com</A><BR>>>=20
>><BR>>><BR>><BR><BR><BR>-- to unsubscribe notify =
mailto:<A=20
href=3D"mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz"=20
target=3D_blank>dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz</A>=20
=
--<BR><BR><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>=
<HR SIZE=3D1 noShade>
<A></A>
<P align=3Dleft color=3D"#000000" avgcert??>No virus found in this=20
message.<BR>Checked by AVG - <A=20
href=3D"http://www.avg.com">www.avg.com</A><BR>Version: 2013.0.3267 / =
Virus=20
Database: 3209/6557 - Release Date: 08/06/13</P></BLOCKQUOTE><hr =
noshade=3D"noshade" size=3D"1"><a></a><p class=3D""avgcert"" =
align=3D"left" color=3D"#000000">No virus found in this message.<br>
Checked by AVG - <a href=3D'http://www.avg.com'>www.avg.com</a><br>
Version: 2013.0.3267 / Virus Database: 3209/6557 - Release Date: =
08/06/13</p></BODY></HTML>
------=_NextPart_000_00C4_01CE9547.32EE0780--
-- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz --
| |