SubjectRe: [dq] DQ rule book 2014
FromIan Wood
DateSun, 1 Jun 2014 07:15:53 -0700 (PDT)
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well given that the rule book does not and never has included the term 'fre=
e action' then any such 'run time' decision is up the GM.=0A=0AConsistency =
is the benchmark of any good rule set, so no discussion is required on this=
 trivial clarification of how the spell works within the current rules.=0A=
=0AIan=0A=0A=0A=0A>________________________________=0A> From: Jim Arona <ji=
m.arona@gmail.com>=0A>To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz =0A>Sent: Sunday, 1 June 2014 7:4=
1 PM=0A>Subject: Re: [dq] DQ rule book 2014=0A>  =0A>=0A>=0A>The change wil=
l have a significant effect on game runtime, it is not at all trivial. Othe=
r DMs have been allowing activation by Free Action. Under the current write=
 up, individual DMs may require a Pass Action or what have you and in that =
case it would not require any kind of conversation at all. Because Kelsey's=
 version imposes an interpretation however sensible and valid, then this re=
quires discussion. =0A>Otherwise, the ruleset is being changed by whoever e=
dits the rulebook and fuck that for a game of soldiers. =0A>=0A>On 1 June 2=
014 18:49, Ian Wood <dawnhaven@xtra.co.nz> wrote:=0A> =0A>=0A>>I vote it ca=
n be improved as a rule clarification.=0A>>=0A>>It is a trivial clarificati=
on and does not involve a rule change as i would not allow a free action to=
 activate it.=0A>>=0A>>I vote 'yay', make the change.=0A>>=0A>>Anyway, it i=
s a stupid write up:=0A>>=A0- I first read that the adept needed a long bru=
sh, or chisel, to scribe the rune from 165 feet, but what the hell.=0A>>=0A=
>>=A0- I would prefer the rune to be automatically activated if the target =
gets to zero EN, and for the target to be able to activate it.=0A>>=0A>>=0A=
>> =0A>>=A0- You can only ever have one on you for your entire life, as it =
never dissapates. Duration 'special'. Spell effects do not specify duration=
.. Even if used, the rune fades, nothing about the spell dissipating. =0A>>=
=0A>> =0A>>=A0- Can the adept have several going at the same time? I would =
say no, or at least the activating part must stack so the adept can only ac=
tivate in the order they are cast. =0A>>=0A>> =0A>>All up an appalling spel=
l that is open to abuse by the GM. Excellent :)=0A>> =0A>>=0A>> =0A>>Any ru=
ne mages who wish their spell updated to something like the following shoul=
d come on one of my adventures:=0A>> =0A>>=0A>> =0A>>Duration "Immediate" =
=0A>> =0A>>Range: "Touch, 1 foot per rank over 10"=0A>> =0A>>Effect: "the A=
dept creates a magical rune of healing over the heart of the target..  =0A>=
>The rune may be activated by the adept, if the target is within 15 feet/ra=
nk, or by the target.=0A>> =0A>>An alternative form restricts the activatio=
n to only when the target gets to negative EN.=0A>> =0A>>The rune dissipate=
s after blah hours of being cast or yadda pulses after being activated.=0A>=
> =0A>>Does not stack or queue. A nice GM may allow both forms to be cast o=
nce on the same target.=0A>> =0A>>Cannot receive additional magical healing=
s in the same pulse as the rune is active."=0A>> =0A>>=0A>> =0A>>Dont ask m=
e to define 'blah' as that requires philosophy. =0A>>'nice' =3D gullible =
=0A>>=0A>> =0A>>Ian=0A>> =0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>>_____________________________=
___=0A>>> From: Jim Arona <jim.arona@gmail..com>=0A>>>To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz =
=0A>>>Sent: Sunday, 1 June 2014 6:04 PM=0A>>>Subject: Re: [dq] DQ rule book=
 2014=0A>>> =0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>This can't be resolved by a rule clarificatio=
n. This is, regardless of the author's intention, a rule change.=0A>>>I'm n=
ot sure what I think about it, but it will make player characters less resi=
lient, which may be a good thing. =0A>>>=0A>>>=A0 =0A>>>On 1 June 2014 17:2=
3, Kelsie McArthur <kelsiemca@gmail.com> wrote:=0A>>>=0A>>>Opinions: Is thi=
s a correct reading by Chris? Original intent of writer?=0A>>>>=0A>>>>=0A>>=
>>suggested change to a rune college spell wording=0A>>>>=0A>>>>=0A>>>>>=0A=
>>>>>Rune of Willow Healing (S-9) =0A>>>>>Range: 15 feet + 15 / Rank =0A>>>=
>>Duration: Special =0A>>>>>Experience Multiple: 450 =0A>>>>>Base Chance: 3=
5% =0A>>>>>Resist: Passive =0A>>>>>Target: Any living creature =0A>>>>>Rune=
: Over heart of target =0A>>>>>Effects: The Adept first paints The Rune of =
Healing =0A>>>>>over the heart of the target. At any time within =0A>>>>>tw=
ice rank hours the adept activates the Rune =0A>>>>>within range. The rune =
will heal the target 3 endurance =0A>>>>>damage per pulse for (Rank + 2) pu=
lses then =0A>>>>>fades. =0A>>>>>=A0 =0A>>>>>Rune of Willow Healing (S-9) =
=0A>>>>>Range: 15 feet + 15 / Rank =0A>>>>>Duration: Special =0A>>>>>Experi=
ence Multiple: 450 =0A>>>>>Base Chance: 35% =0A>>>>>Resist: Passive =0A>>>>=
>Target: Any living creature =0A>>>>>Rune: Over heart of target =0A>>>>>Eff=
ects: The Adept first paints The Rune of Healing =0A>>>>>over the heart of =
the target. At any time within =0A>>>>>twice rank hours the adept activates=
 the Rune =0A>>>>> =0A>>>>>(on a single target) within range by using a mag=
ical =0A>>>>> =0A>>>>>pass action . =0A>>>>> =0A>>>>>The rune will heal the=
 target 3 endurance =0A>>>>>damage per pulse for (Rank + 2) pulses then =0A=
>>>>>fades.=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>> =0A>=0A>=0A>    
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ga=
ramond, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span></span></div><div=
>well given that the rule book does not and never has included the term 'fr=
ee action' then any such 'run time' decision is up the GM.</div><div><br></=
div><div>Consistency is the benchmark of any good rule set, so no discussio=
n is required on this trivial clarification of how the spell works within t=
he current rules.</div><div><br></div><div>Ian</div><div><br></div><div><br=
></div><blockquote style=3D"padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; margin-left=
: 5px; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); border-left-width: 2px; border-=
left-style: solid;">  <div style=3D"font-family: garamond, new york, times,=
 serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new =
york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <div class=3D"hr" =
style=3D"margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204=
);
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ditable=3D"false" readonly=3D"true"></div>  <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"=
> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Jim Arona &lt;jim.=
arona@gmail.com&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b=
> dq@dq.sf.org.nz <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></=
b> Sunday, 1 June 2014 7:41 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Su=
bject:</span></b> Re: [dq] DQ rule book 2014<br> </font> </div> <div class=
=3D"y_msg_container"><br><div id=3D"yiv7771220514"><div><div><font face=3D"=
georgia,serif">The change will have a significant effect on game runtime, i=
t is not at all trivial. Other DMs have been allowing activation by Free Ac=
tion. Under the current write up, individual DMs may require a Pass Action =
or what have you and in that case it would not require any kind of conversa=
tion at all. Because Kelsey's version imposes an interpretation however sen=
sible and valid,
 then this <b>requires</b> discussion.</font></div>=0A=0A<div><font face=3D=
"Georgia">Otherwise, the ruleset is being changed by whoever edits the rule=
book and fuck that for a game of soldiers.</font></div>=0A<div>&nbsp;</div>=
=0A<div class=3D"yiv7771220514yqt9813018630" id=3D"yiv7771220514yqt11928"><=
div>On 1 June 2014 18:49, Ian Wood <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
dawnhaven@xtra.co.nz" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" yma=
ilto=3D"mailto:dawnhaven@xtra.co.nz">dawnhaven@xtra.co.nz</a>&gt;</span> wr=
ote:<br clear=3D"none"></div>=0A<div class=3D"yiv7771220514gmail_quote">=0A=
<blockquote class=3D"yiv7771220514gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px=
 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-le=
ft-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;">=0A<div>=0A<div style=3D"color: r=
gb(0, 0, 0); font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt=
; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br clear=3D"none">I vote it can b=
e improved as a rule clarification.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">It=
 is a trivial clarification and does not involve a rule change as i would n=
ot allow a free action to activate it.<br clear=3D"none">=0A<br clear=3D"no=
ne">I vote 'yay', make the change.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Any=
way, it is a stupid write up:<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp;- I first read that t=
he adept needed a long brush, or chisel, to scribe the rune from 165 feet, =
but what the hell.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">&nbsp;- I would pre=
fer the rune to be automatically activated if the target gets to zero EN, a=
nd for the target to be able to activate it.<br clear=3D"none">=0A=0A<div><=
br clear=3D"none"><span></span></div>=0A<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style:=
 normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>&nbsp;- You can only ever ha=
ve one on you for your entire life, as it never dissapates. Duration 'speci=
al'. Spell effects do not specify duration. Even if used, the rune fades, n=
othing about the spell dissipating.</span></div>=0A=0A<div style=3D"color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16p=
x; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><br clear=3D"none"><=
span></span></div>=0A<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: garamo=
nd, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background=
-color: transparent;"><span>&nbsp;- Can the adept have several going at the=
 same time? I would say no, or at least the activating part must stack so t=
he adept can only activate in the order they are cast.</span></div>=0A=0A<d=
iv style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: garamond, new york, times, se=
rif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><=
br clear=3D"none"><span></span></div>=0A<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style:=
 normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>All up an appalling spell th=
at is open to abuse by the GM. Excellent :)<br clear=3D"none"></span></div>=
=0A=0A<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: garamond, new york, t=
imes, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transpa=
rent;"><br clear=3D"none"><span></span></div>=0A<div style=3D"color: rgb(0,=
 0, 0); font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px; fon=
t-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">Any rune mages who wish th=
eir spell updated to something like the following should come on one of my =
adventures:<br clear=3D"none">=0A<span></span></div>=0A<div style=3D"color:=
 rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16=
px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span><br clear=3D"=
none"></span></div>=0A<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: garam=
ond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; backgroun=
d-color: transparent;">Duration "Immediate" <br clear=3D"none"></div>=0A<di=
v style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: garamond, new york, times, ser=
if; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">Ra=
nge: "Touch, 1 foot per rank over 10"<br clear=3D"none"></div>=0A<div style=
=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; fon=
t-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">Effect: "=
the Adept creates a magical rune of healing over the heart of the target.. =
</div>=0A=0A<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: garamond, new y=
ork, times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: t=
ransparent;">The rune may be activated by the adept, if the target is withi=
n 15 feet/rank, or by the target.<br clear=3D"none">=0A</div>=0A<div style=
=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; fon=
t-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">An altern=
ative form restricts the activation to only when the target gets to negativ=
e EN.<br clear=3D"none">=0A</div>=0A<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font=
-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: nor=
mal; background-color: transparent;">The rune dissipates after blah hours o=
f being cast or yadda pulses after being activated.<br clear=3D"none">=0A</=
div>=0A<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: garamond, new york, =
times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transp=
arent;">Does not stack or queue. A nice GM may allow both forms to be cast =
once on the same target.<br clear=3D"none">=0A</div>=0A<div style=3D"color:=
 rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16=
px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">Cannot receive addi=
tional magical healings in the same pulse as the rune is active."<br clear=
=3D"none">=0A</div>=0A<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: garam=
ond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; backgroun=
d-color: transparent;"><br clear=3D"none"></div>=0A<div style=3D"color: rgb=
(0, 0, 0); font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px; =
font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">Dont ask me to define '=
blah' as that requires philosophy.</div>=0A<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0=
); font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-sty=
le: normal; background-color: transparent;">'nice' =3D gullible</div>=0A<di=
v style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: garamond, new york, times, ser=
if; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><b=
r clear=3D"none"></div>=0A<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: g=
aramond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; backg=
round-color: transparent;">Ian<br clear=3D"none"></div>=0A<div style=3D"col=
or: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-size:=
 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><br clear=3D"non=
e">=0A<blockquote style=3D"padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; margin-left:=
 5px; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); border-left-width: 2px; border-l=
eft-style: solid;">=0A<div style=3D"font-family: garamond, new york, times,=
 serif; font-size: 12pt;">=0A<div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, ne=
w york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;">=0A<div dir=3D"ltr">=0A<div class=
=3D"hr" style=3D"margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); border-image: none; height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;=
" contenteditable=3D"false" readonly=3D"true"></div>=0A<font face=3D"Arial"=
><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Jim Arona &lt;jim.a=
rona@gmail..com&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;"=
>To:</span></b> <a href=3D"mailto:dq@dq.sf.org.nz" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D=
"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:dq@dq.sf.org.nz">dq@dq.sf.org.n=
z</a> <br clear=3D"none">=0A<b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</sp=
an></b> Sunday, 1 June 2014 6:04 PM<br clear=3D"none"><b><span style=3D"fon=
t-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [dq] DQ rule book 2014<br clear=3D=
"none"></font></div>=0A<div>=0A<div class=3D"yiv7771220514h5">=0A<div><br c=
lear=3D"none">=0A<div>=0A<div><font face=3D"georgia,serif">This can't be re=
solved by a rule clarification. This is, regardless of the author's intenti=
on, a rule change.<br clear=3D"none"></font>I'm not sure what I think about=
 it, but it will make player characters less resilient, which may be a good=
 thing.</div>=0A=0A<div><br clear=3D"none">&nbsp;</div>=0A<div>On 1 June 20=
14 17:23, Kelsie McArthur <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kelsiemca=
@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"ma=
ilto:kelsiemca@gmail.com">kelsiemca@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br clea=
r=3D"none">=0A<blockquote style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left:=
 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border=
-left-style: solid;">=0A<div dir=3D"ltr">Opinions: Is this a correct readin=
g by Chris? Original intent of writer?<br clear=3D"none">=0A<div><br clear=
=3D"none">suggested change to a rune college spell wording<br clear=3D"none=
">=0A<div>=0A<blockquote style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: =
1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-=
left-style: solid;">=0A<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">=0A<div style=3D=
"line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><b><span style=3D"font-family: A=
rial, Bold; font-size: 8pt;">Rune of Willow Healing (S-9)</span></b></div>=
=0A<div style=3D"line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><i><span style=
=3D"font-family: TimesNewRoman, Italic; font-size: 8pt;">Range: </span></i>=
<span style=3D"font-family: TimesNewRoman; font-size: 8pt;">15 feet + 15 / =
Rank</span></div>=0A<div style=3D"line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0pt;"=
><i><span style=3D"font-family: TimesNewRoman, Italic; font-size: 8pt;">Dur=
ation: </span></i><span style=3D"font-family: TimesNewRoman; font-size: 8pt=
;">Special</span></div>=0A<div style=3D"line-height: normal; margin-bottom:=
 0pt;"><i><span style=3D"font-family: TimesNewRoman, Italic; font-size: 8pt=
;">Experience Multiple: </span></i><span style=3D"font-family: TimesNewRoma=
n; font-size: 8pt;">450</span></div>=0A<div style=3D"line-height: normal; m=
argin-bottom: 0pt;"><i><span style=3D"font-family: TimesNewRoman, Italic; f=
ont-size: 8pt;">Base Chance: </span></i><span style=3D"font-family: TimesNe=
wRoman; font-size: 8pt;">35%</span></div>=0A<div style=3D"line-height: norm=
al; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><i><span style=3D"font-family: TimesNewRoman, Ital=
ic; font-size: 8pt;">Resist: </span></i><span style=3D"font-family: TimesNe=
wRoman; font-size: 8pt;">Passive</span></div>=0A<div style=3D"line-height: =
normal; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><i><span style=3D"font-family: TimesNewRoman, =
Italic; font-size: 8pt;">Target: </span></i><span style=3D"font-family: Tim=
esNewRoman; font-size: 8pt;">Any living creature</span></div>=0A<div style=
=3D"line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><i><span style=3D"font-family=
: TimesNewRoman, Italic; font-size: 8pt;">Rune: </span></i><span style=3D"f=
ont-family: TimesNewRoman; font-size: 8pt;">Over heart of target</span></di=
v>=0A<div style=3D"line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><i><span style=
=3D"font-family: TimesNewRoman, Italic; font-size: 8pt;">Effects: </span></=
i><span style=3D"font-family: TimesNewRoman; font-size: 8pt;">The Adept fir=
st paints The Rune of Healing</span></div>=0A=0A<div style=3D"line-height: =
normal; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><span style=3D"font-family: TimesNewRoman; fon=
t-size: 8pt;">over the heart of the target. At any time within</span></div>=
=0A<div style=3D"line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><span style=3D"f=
ont-family: TimesNewRoman; font-size: 8pt;">twice rank hours the adept acti=
vates the Rune</span></div>=0A<div style=3D"line-height: normal; margin-bot=
tom: 0pt;"><span style=3D"font-family: TimesNewRoman; font-size: 8pt;">with=
in range. The rune will heal the target 3 endurance</span></div>=0A<div sty=
le=3D"line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><span style=3D"font-family:=
 TimesNewRoman; font-size: 8pt;">damage per pulse for (Rank + 2) pulses the=
n</span></div>=0A<div><span style=3D"line-height: 115%; font-family: TimesN=
ewRoman; font-size: 8pt;">fades.</span></div>=0A<div><span style=3D"line-he=
ight: 115%; font-family: TimesNewRoman; font-size: 8pt;">&nbsp;</span></div=
>=0A<div style=3D"line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><b><span style=
=3D"font-family: Arial, Bold; font-size: 8pt;">Rune of Willow Healing (S-9)=
</span></b></div>=0A<div style=3D"line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0pt;"=
><i><span style=3D"font-family: TimesNewRoman, Italic; font-size: 8pt;">Ran=
ge: </span></i><span style=3D"font-family: TimesNewRoman; font-size: 8pt;">=
15 feet + 15 / Rank</span></div>=0A<div style=3D"line-height: normal; margi=
n-bottom: 0pt;"><i><span style=3D"font-family: TimesNewRoman, Italic; font-=
size: 8pt;">Duration: </span></i><span style=3D"font-family: TimesNewRoman;=
 font-size: 8pt;">Special</span></div>=0A<div style=3D"line-height: normal;=
 margin-bottom: 0pt;"><i><span style=3D"font-family: TimesNewRoman, Italic;=
 font-size: 8pt;">Experience Multiple: </span></i><span style=3D"font-famil=
y: TimesNewRoman; font-size: 8pt;">450</span></div>=0A<div style=3D"line-he=
ight: normal; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><i><span style=3D"font-family: TimesNewR=
oman, Italic; font-size: 8pt;">Base Chance: </span></i><span style=3D"font-=
family: TimesNewRoman; font-size: 8pt;">35%</span></div>=0A<div style=3D"li=
ne-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><i><span style=3D"font-family: Time=
sNewRoman, Italic; font-size: 8pt;">Resist: </span></i><span style=3D"font-=
family: TimesNewRoman; font-size: 8pt;">Passive</span></div>=0A<div style=
=3D"line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><i><span style=3D"font-family=
: TimesNewRoman, Italic; font-size: 8pt;">Target: </span></i><span style=3D=
"font-family: TimesNewRoman; font-size: 8pt;">Any living creature</span></d=
iv>=0A<div style=3D"line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><i><span styl=
e=3D"font-family: TimesNewRoman, Italic; font-size: 8pt;">Rune: </span></i>=
<span style=3D"font-family: TimesNewRoman; font-size: 8pt;">Over heart of t=
arget</span></div>=0A<div style=3D"line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0pt;=
"><i><span style=3D"font-family: TimesNewRoman, Italic; font-size: 8pt;">Ef=
fects: </span></i><span style=3D"font-family: TimesNewRoman; font-size: 8pt=
;">The Adept first paints The Rune of Healing</span></div>=0A=0A<div style=
=3D"line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><span style=3D"font-family: T=
imesNewRoman; font-size: 8pt;">over the heart of the target. At any time wi=
thin</span></div>=0A<div style=3D"line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0pt;"=
><span style=3D"font-family: TimesNewRoman; font-size: 8pt;">twice rank hou=
rs the adept activates the Rune <br clear=3D"none"></span></div>=0A<div sty=
le=3D"line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><span style=3D"font-family:=
 TimesNewRoman; font-size: 8pt;">(on a single target) within range by using=
 a magical <br clear=3D"none"></span></div>=0A<div style=3D"line-height: no=
rmal; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><span style=3D"font-family: TimesNewRoman; font-=
size: 8pt;">pass action . <br clear=3D"none"></span></div>=0A<div style=3D"=
line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><span style=3D"font-family: Times=
NewRoman; font-size: 8pt;">The rune will heal the target 3 endurance</span>=
</div>=0A<div style=3D"line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><span styl=
e=3D"font-family: TimesNewRoman; font-size: 8pt;">damage per pulse for (Ran=
k + 2) pulses then</span></div>=0A<div><span style=3D"line-height: 115%; fo=
nt-family: TimesNewRoman; font-size: 8pt;">fades.</span></div><br clear=3D"=
none"></div><br clear=3D"none"></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote>=
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SubjectRe: [dq] DQ rule book 2014
FromIan Wood
DateSun, 1 Jun 2014 07:17:02 -0700 (PDT)
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never thought it was=A0 =0A=0A=0A>________________________________=0A> From=
: Kelsie McArthur <kelsiemca@gmail.com>=0A>To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz =0A>Sent: Su=
nday, 1 June 2014 10:07 PM=0A>Subject: Re: [dq] DQ rule book 2014=0A>  =0A>=
=0A>=0A>Hey, it's not my version.=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>On 1 June 2014 19:41, =
Jim Arona <jim.arona@gmail.com> wrote:=0A>=0A>The change will have a signif=
icant effect on game runtime, it is not at all trivial. Other DMs have been=
 allowing activation by Free Action. Under the current write up, individual=
 DMs may require a Pass Action or what have you and in that case it would n=
ot require any kind of conversation at all. Because Kelsey's version impose=
s an interpretation however sensible and valid, then this requires discussi=
on. =0A>>Otherwise, the ruleset is being changed by whoever edits the ruleb=
ook and fuck that for a game of soldiers.=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>On 1 June 2014 18:4=
9, Ian Wood <dawnhaven@xtra.co.nz> wrote:=0A>> =0A>>=0A>>>I vote it can be =
improved as a rule clarification.=0A>>>=0A>>>It is a trivial clarification =
and does not involve a rule change as i would not allow a free action to ac=
tivate it.=0A>>>=0A>>>I vote 'yay', make the change.=0A>>>=0A>>>Anyway, it =
is a stupid write up:=0A>>>=A0- I first read that the adept needed a long b=
rush, or chisel, to scribe the rune from 165 feet, but what the hell.=0A>>>=
=0A>>>=A0- I would prefer the rune to be automatically activated if the tar=
get gets to zero EN, and for the target to be able to activate it.=0A>>>=0A=
>>>=0A>>> =0A>>>=A0- You can only ever have one on you for your entire life=
, as it never dissapates. Duration 'special'. Spell effects do not specify =
duration. Even if used, the rune fades, nothing about the spell dissipating=
.. =0A>>>=0A>>> =0A>>>=A0- Can the adept have several going at the same time=
? I would say no, or at least the activating part must stack so the adept c=
an only activate in the order they are cast. =0A>>>=0A>>> =0A>>>All up an a=
ppalling spell that is open to abuse by the GM. Excellent :)=0A>>> =0A>>>=
=0A>>> =0A>>>Any rune mages who wish their spell updated to something like =
the following should come on one of my adventures:=0A>>> =0A>>>=0A>>> =0A>>=
>Duration "Immediate" =0A>>> =0A>>>Range: "Touch, 1 foot per rank over 10"=
=0A>>> =0A>>>Effect: "the Adept creates a magical rune of healing over the =
heart of the target..  =0A>>>The rune may be activated by the adept, if the=
 target is within 15 feet/rank, or by the target.=0A>>> =0A>>>An alternativ=
e form restricts the activation to only when the target gets to negative EN=
..=0A>>> =0A>>>The rune dissipates after blah hours of being cast or yadda p=
ulses after being activated.=0A>>> =0A>>>Does not stack or queue. A nice GM=
 may allow both forms to be cast once on the same target.=0A>>> =0A>>>Canno=
t receive additional magical healings in the same pulse as the rune is acti=
ve."=0A>>> =0A>>>=0A>>> =0A>>>Dont ask me to define 'blah' as that requires=
 philosophy. =0A>>>'nice' =3D gullible =0A>>>=0A>>> =0A>>>Ian=0A>>> =0A>>>=
=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>>________________________________=0A>>>> From: Jim Arona =
<jim.arona@gmail..com>=0A>>>>To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz =0A>>>>Sent: Sunday, 1 Jun=
e 2014 6:04 PM=0A>>>>Subject: Re: [dq] DQ rule book 2014=0A>>>> =0A>>>>=0A>=
>>>=0A>>>>This can't be resolved by a rule clarification. This is, regardle=
ss of the author's intention, a rule change.=0A>>>>I'm not sure what I thin=
k about it, but it will make player characters less resilient, which may be=
 a good thing. =0A>>>>=0A>>>>=A0 =0A>>>>On 1 June 2014 17:23, Kelsie McArth=
ur <kelsiemca@gmail.com> wrote:=0A>>>>=0A>>>>Opinions: Is this a correct re=
ading by Chris? Original intent of writer?=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>suggested=
 change to a rune college spell wording=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>Ru=
ne of Willow Healing (S-9) =0A>>>>>>Range: 15 feet + 15 / Rank =0A>>>>>>Dur=
ation: Special =0A>>>>>>Experience Multiple: 450 =0A>>>>>>Base Chance: 35% =
=0A>>>>>>Resist: Passive =0A>>>>>>Target: Any living creature =0A>>>>>>Rune=
: Over heart of target =0A>>>>>>Effects: The Adept first paints The Rune of=
 Healing =0A>>>>>>over the heart of the target. At any time within =0A>>>>>=
>twice rank hours the adept activates the Rune =0A>>>>>>within range. The r=
une will heal the target 3 endurance =0A>>>>>>damage per pulse for (Rank + =
2) pulses then =0A>>>>>>fades. =0A>>>>>>=A0 =0A>>>>>>Rune of Willow Healing=
 (S-9) =0A>>>>>>Range: 15 feet + 15 / Rank =0A>>>>>>Duration: Special =0A>>=
>>>>Experience Multiple: 450 =0A>>>>>>Base Chance: 35% =0A>>>>>>Resist: Pas=
sive =0A>>>>>>Target: Any living creature =0A>>>>>>Rune: Over heart of targ=
et =0A>>>>>>Effects: The Adept first paints The Rune of Healing =0A>>>>>>ov=
er the heart of the target. At any time within =0A>>>>>>twice rank hours th=
e adept activates the Rune =0A>>>>>> =0A>>>>>>(on a single target) within r=
ange by using a magical =0A>>>>>> =0A>>>>>>pass action . =0A>>>>>> =0A>>>>>=
>The rune will heal the target 3 endurance =0A>>>>>>damage per pulse for (R=
ank + 2) pulses then =0A>>>>>>fades.=0A>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>=0A>>>>=0A>>>>=0A>>>>=
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ga=
ramond, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span></span></div><div=
>never thought it was&nbsp; <br><blockquote style=3D"padding-left: 5px; mar=
gin-top: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); border=
-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid;">  <div style=3D"font-family: g=
aramond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style=3D"font-fami=
ly: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir=3D=
"ltr"> <div class=3D"hr" style=3D"margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1p=
x solid rgb(204, 204, 204); border-image: none; height: 0px; line-height: 0=
; font-size: 0px;" contenteditable=3D"false" readonly=3D"true"></div>  <fon=
t face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">From:</s=
pan></b> Kelsie McArthur &lt;kelsiemca@gmail.com&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"=
font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> dq@dq.sf.org.nz <br> <b><span style=3D"f=
ont-weight:
 bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, 1 June 2014 10:07 PM<br> <b><span style=3D=
"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [dq] DQ rule book 2014<br> </f=
ont> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><br><div id=3D"yiv5111464163"><d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">Hey, it's not my version.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div =
class=3D"yiv5111464163yqt2921928462" id=3D"yiv5111464163yqt59144"><div clas=
s=3D"yiv5111464163gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div c=
lass=3D"yiv5111464163gmail_quote">On 1 June 2014 19:41, Jim Arona <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jim.arona@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:jim.arona@gmail.com">jim.aro=
na@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br clear=3D"none">=0A<blockquote class=
=3D"yiv5111464163gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-l=
eft: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; bo=
rder-left-style: solid;"><div><font face=3D"georgia,serif">The change will =
have a significant effect on game runtime, it is not at all trivial. Other =
DMs have been allowing activation by Free Action. Under the current write u=
p, individual DMs may require a Pass Action or what have you and in that ca=
se it would not require any kind of conversation at all. Because Kelsey's v=
ersion imposes an interpretation however sensible and valid, then this <b>r=
equires</b> discussion.</font></div>=0A=0A=0A<div><font face=3D"Georgia">Ot=
herwise, the ruleset is being changed by whoever edits the rulebook and fuc=
k that for a game of soldiers.</font></div><div class=3D"yiv5111464163HOEnZ=
b"><div class=3D"yiv5111464163h5">=0A<div>&nbsp;</div>=0A<div>On 1 June 201=
4 18:49, Ian Wood <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dawnhaven@xtra.co=
..nz" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:da=
wnhaven@xtra.co.nz">dawnhaven@xtra.co.nz</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br clear=3D"=
none"></div>=0A<div class=3D"yiv5111464163gmail_quote">=0A<blockquote class=
=3D"yiv5111464163gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-l=
eft: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; bo=
rder-left-style: solid;">=0A<div>=0A<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font=
-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt; background-colo=
r: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br clear=3D"none">I vote it can be improved as a r=
ule clarification.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">It is a trivial cla=
rification and does not involve a rule change as i would not allow a free a=
ction to activate it.<br clear=3D"none">=0A=0A<br clear=3D"none">I vote 'ya=
y', make the change.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Anyway, it is a s=
tupid write up:<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp;- I first read that the adept neede=
d a long brush, or chisel, to scribe the rune from 165 feet, but what the h=
ell.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">&nbsp;- I would prefer the rune t=
o be automatically activated if the target gets to zero EN, and for the tar=
get to be able to activate it.<br clear=3D"none">=0A=0A=0A<div><br clear=3D=
"none"><span></span></div>=0A<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family=
: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; ba=
ckground-color: transparent;"><span>&nbsp;- You can only ever have one on y=
ou for your entire life, as it never dissapates. Duration 'special'. Spell =
effects do not specify duration. Even if used, the rune fades, nothing abou=
t the spell dissipating.</span></div>=0A=0A=0A<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0=
, 0); font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-=
style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><br clear=3D"none"><span></s=
pan></div>=0A<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: garamond, new =
york, times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: =
transparent;"><span>&nbsp;- Can the adept have several going at the same ti=
me? I would say no, or at least the activating part must stack so the adept=
 can only activate in the order they are cast.</span></div>=0A=0A=0A<div st=
yle=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; =
font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><br cl=
ear=3D"none"><span></span></div>=0A<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-=
family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: norm=
al; background-color: transparent;"><span>All up an appalling spell that is=
 open to abuse by the GM. Excellent :)<br clear=3D"none"></span></div>=0A=
=0A=0A<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: garamond, new york, t=
imes, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transpa=
rent;"><br clear=3D"none"><span></span></div>=0A<div style=3D"color: rgb(0,=
 0, 0); font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px; fon=
t-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">Any rune mages who wish th=
eir spell updated to something like the following should come on one of my =
adventures:<br clear=3D"none">=0A=0A<span></span></div>=0A<div style=3D"col=
or: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-size:=
 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span><br clear=
=3D"none"></span></div>=0A<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: g=
aramond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; backg=
round-color: transparent;">Duration "Immediate" <br clear=3D"none"></div>=
=0A<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: garamond, new york, time=
s, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparen=
t;">Range: "Touch, 1 foot per rank over 10"<br clear=3D"none"></div>=0A<div=
 style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: garamond, new york, times, seri=
f; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">Eff=
ect: "the Adept creates a magical rune of healing over the heart of the tar=
get.. </div>=0A=0A=0A<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: garamo=
nd, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background=
-color: transparent;">The rune may be activated by the adept, if the target=
 is within 15 feet/rank, or by the target.<br clear=3D"none">=0A=0A</div>=
=0A<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: garamond, new york, time=
s, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparen=
t;">An alternative form restricts the activation to only when the target ge=
ts to negative EN.<br clear=3D"none">=0A=0A</div>=0A<div style=3D"color: rg=
b(0, 0, 0); font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px;=
 font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">The rune dissipates af=
ter blah hours of being cast or yadda pulses after being activated.<br clea=
r=3D"none">=0A=0A</div>=0A<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: g=
aramond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; backg=
round-color: transparent;">Does not stack or queue. A nice GM may allow bot=
h forms to be cast once on the same target.<br clear=3D"none">=0A=0A</div>=
=0A<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: garamond, new york, time=
s, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparen=
t;">Cannot receive additional magical healings in the same pulse as the run=
e is active."<br clear=3D"none">=0A=0A</div>=0A<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, =
0, 0); font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px; font=
-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><br clear=3D"none"></div>=
=0A<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: garamond, new york, time=
s, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparen=
t;">Dont ask me to define 'blah' as that requires philosophy.</div>=0A<div =
style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif=
; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">'nic=
e' =3D gullible</div>=0A<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: gar=
amond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; backgro=
und-color: transparent;"><br clear=3D"none"></div>=0A<div style=3D"color: r=
gb(0, 0, 0); font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px=
; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">Ian<br clear=3D"none"=
></div>=0A<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: garamond, new yor=
k, times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: tra=
nsparent;"><br clear=3D"none">=0A<blockquote style=3D"padding-left: 5px; ma=
rgin-top: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); borde=
r-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid;">=0A<div style=3D"font-family:=
 garamond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;">=0A<div style=3D"font-=
family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;">=0A<div =
dir=3D"ltr">=0A<div class=3D"hr" style=3D"margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; bo=
rder: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); border-image: none; height: 0px; line-h=
eight: 0; font-size: 0px;" contenteditable=3D"false" readonly=3D"true"></di=
v>=0A<font face=3D"Arial"><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">From:</span=
></b> Jim Arona &lt;jim.arona@gmail..com&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b><span sty=
le=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a href=3D"mailto:dq@dq.sf.org.nz"=
 target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:dq@dq.=
sf.org.nz">dq@dq.sf.org.nz</a> <br clear=3D"none">=0A=0A<b><span style=3D"f=
ont-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, 1 June 2014 6:04 PM<br clear=3D=
"none"><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [dq] D=
Q rule book 2014<br clear=3D"none"></font></div>=0A<div>=0A<div>=0A<div><br=
 clear=3D"none">=0A<div>=0A<div><font face=3D"georgia,serif">This can't be =
resolved by a rule clarification. This is, regardless of the author's inten=
tion, a rule change.<br clear=3D"none"></font>I'm not sure what I think abo=
ut it, but it will make player characters less resilient, which may be a go=
od thing.</div>=0A=0A=0A<div><br clear=3D"none">&nbsp;</div>=0A<div>On 1 Ju=
ne 2014 17:23, Kelsie McArthur <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kels=
iemca@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:kelsiemca@gmail.com">kelsiemca@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<b=
r clear=3D"none">=0A<blockquote style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding=
-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; =
border-left-style: solid;">=0A<div dir=3D"ltr">Opinions: Is this a correct =
reading by Chris? Original intent of writer?<br clear=3D"none">=0A<div><br =
clear=3D"none">suggested change to a rune college spell wording<br clear=3D=
"none">=0A<div>=0A<blockquote style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-l=
eft: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; bo=
rder-left-style: solid;">=0A<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">=0A<div sty=
le=3D"line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><b><span style=3D"font-fami=
ly: Arial, Bold; font-size: 8pt;">Rune of Willow Healing (S-9)</span></b></=
div>=0A<div style=3D"line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0pt;"><i><span sty=
le=3D"font-family: TimesNewRoman, Italic; font-size: 8pt;">Range: </span></=
i><span style=3D"font-family: TimesNewRoman; font-size: 8pt;">15 feet + 15 =
/ Rank</span></div>=0A<div style=3D"line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0pt=
;"><i><span style=3D"font-family: TimesNewRoman, Italic; font-size: 8pt;">D=
uration: </span></i><span style=3D"font-family: TimesNewRoman; font-size: 8=
pt;">Special</span></div>=0A<div style=3D"line-height: normal; margin-botto=
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SubjectRe: [dq] DQ rule book 2014
FromJim Arona
DateMon, 2 Jun 2014 10:20:39 +1200
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It's not trivial, it's a significant change, it will have an impact on how
the combat is run where Rune mages are involved. It's not a bad thing, it
*is* something that needs to be discussed.

On 2 June 2014 02:15, Ian Wood <dawnhaven@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

>   well given that the rule book does not and never has included the term
> 'free action' then any such 'run time' decision is up the GM.
>
> Consistency is the benchmark of any good rule set, so no discussion is
> required on this trivial clarification of how the spell works within the
> current rules.
>
> Ian
>
>
>   *From:* Jim Arona <jim.arona@gmail.com>
> *To:* dq@dq.sf.org.nz
> *Sent:* Sunday, 1 June 2014 7:41 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [dq] DQ rule book 2014
>
>   The change will have a significant effect on game runtime, it is not at
> all trivial. Other DMs have been allowing activation by Free Action. Under
> the current write up, individual DMs may require a Pass Action or what have
> you and in that case it would not require any kind of conversation at all.
> Because Kelsey's version imposes an interpretation however sensible and
> valid, then this *requires* discussion.
> Otherwise, the ruleset is being changed by whoever edits the rulebook and
> fuck that for a game of soldiers.
>
>  On 1 June 2014 18:49, Ian Wood <dawnhaven@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>
>
> I vote it can be improved as a rule clarification.
>
> It is a trivial clarification and does not involve a rule change as i
> would not allow a free action to activate it.
>
> I vote 'yay', make the change.
>
> Anyway, it is a stupid write up:
>  - I first read that the adept needed a long brush, or chisel, to scribe
> the rune from 165 feet, but what the hell.
>
>  - I would prefer the rune to be automatically activated if the target
> gets to zero EN, and for the target to be able to activate it.
>
>  - You can only ever have one on you for your entire life, as it never
> dissapates. Duration 'special'. Spell effects do not specify duration. Even
> if used, the rune fades, nothing about the spell dissipating.
>
>  - Can the adept have several going at the same time? I would say no, or
> at least the activating part must stack so the adept can only activate in
> the order they are cast.
>
> All up an appalling spell that is open to abuse by the GM. Excellent :)
>
> Any rune mages who wish their spell updated to something like the
> following should come on one of my adventures:
>
> Duration "Immediate"
> Range: "Touch, 1 foot per rank over 10"
> Effect: "the Adept creates a magical rune of healing over the heart of the
> target..
> The rune may be activated by the adept, if the target is within 15
> feet/rank, or by the target.
> An alternative form restricts the activation to only when the target gets
> to negative EN.
> The rune dissipates after blah hours of being cast or yadda pulses after
> being activated.
> Does not stack or queue. A nice GM may allow both forms to be cast once on
> the same target.
> Cannot receive additional magical healings in the same pulse as the rune
> is active."
>
> Dont ask me to define 'blah' as that requires philosophy.
> 'nice' = gullible
>
> Ian
>
>    *From:* Jim Arona <jim.arona@gmail..com>
> *To:* dq@dq.sf.org.nz
> *Sent:* Sunday, 1 June 2014 6:04 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [dq] DQ rule book 2014
>
>  This can't be resolved by a rule clarification. This is, regardless of
> the author's intention, a rule change.
> I'm not sure what I think about it, but it will make player characters
> less resilient, which may be a good thing.
>
>
> On 1 June 2014 17:23, Kelsie McArthur <kelsiemca@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Opinions: Is this a correct reading by Chris? Original intent of writer?
>
> suggested change to a rune college spell wording
>
>
> *Rune of Willow Healing (S-9)*
> *Range: *15 feet + 15 / Rank
> *Duration: *Special
> *Experience Multiple: *450
> *Base Chance: *35%
> *Resist: *Passive
> *Target: *Any living creature
> *Rune: *Over heart of target
> *Effects: *The Adept first paints The Rune of Healing
> over the heart of the target. At any time within
> twice rank hours the adept activates the Rune
> within range. The rune will heal the target 3 endurance
> damage per pulse for (Rank + 2) pulses then
> fades.
>
> *Rune of Willow Healing (S-9)*
> *Range: *15 feet + 15 / Rank
> *Duration: *Special
> *Experience Multiple: *450
> *Base Chance: *35%
> *Resist: *Passive
> *Target: *Any living creature
> *Rune: *Over heart of target
> *Effects: *The Adept first paints The Rune of Healing
> over the heart of the target. At any time within
> twice rank hours the adept activates the Rune
> (on a single target) within range by using a magical
> pass action .
> The rune will heal the target 3 endurance
> damage per pulse for (Rank + 2) pulses then
> fades.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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<font face=3D"georgia,serif">It&#39;s not trivial, it&#39;s a significant c=
hange, it will have an impact on how the=C2=A0combat is run where Rune mage=
s are involved. It&#39;s not a bad thing, it <strong>is</strong> something =
that needs to be discussed.<br>
</font><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 2 June 2014 02:15, Ian Wood <span dir=3D"ltr"=
>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dawnhaven@xtra.co.nz" target=3D"_blank">dawnhaven@xt=
ra.co.nz</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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<div><span></span></div>
<div>well given that the rule book does not and never has included the term=
 &#39;free action&#39; then any such &#39;run time&#39; decision is up the =
GM.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Consistency is the benchmark of any good rule set, so no discussion is=
 required on this trivial clarification of how the spell works within the c=
urrent rules.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Ian</div>
<div><br></div>
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</div><font face=3D"Arial"><b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:bold">From:</span>=
</b> Jim Arona &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jim.arona@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank"=
>jim.arona@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br><b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:bold">To:</sp=
an></b> <a href=3D"mailto:dq@dq.sf.org.nz" target=3D"_blank">dq@dq.sf.org.n=
z</a> <br>
<b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, 1 June 2014 7:=
41 PM=20
<div><br><b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [dq] D=
Q rule book 2014<br></div></font></div>
<div><br>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div><font face=3D"georgia,serif">The change will have a significant effect=
 on game runtime, it is not at all trivial. Other DMs have been allowing ac=
tivation by Free Action. Under the current write up, individual DMs may req=
uire a Pass Action or what have you and in that case it would not require a=
ny kind of conversation at all. Because Kelsey&#39;s version imposes an int=
erpretation however sensible and valid, then this <b>requires</b> discussio=
n.</font></div>

<div><font face=3D"Georgia">Otherwise, the ruleset is being changed by whoe=
ver edits the rulebook and fuck that for a game of soldiers.</font></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div></div>
<div>
<div>
<div>On 1 June 2014 18:49, Ian Wood <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:dawnhaven@xtra.co.nz" shape=3D"rect" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">da=
wnhaven@xtra.co.nz</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div></div>
<div>
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0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex">
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rk,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:12pt">
<div><br clear=3D"none">I vote it can be improved as a rule clarification.<=
br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">It is a trivial clarification and does=
 not involve a rule change as i would not allow a free action to activate i=
t.<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">I vote &#39;yay&#39;, make the change.<br clear=3D"none"=
><br clear=3D"none">Anyway, it is a stupid write up:<br clear=3D"none">=C2=
=A0- I first read that the adept needed a long brush, or chisel, to scribe =
the rune from 165 feet, but what the hell.<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">=C2=A0- I would prefer the rune to be automatically acti=
vated if the target gets to zero EN, and for the target to be able to activ=
ate it.<br clear=3D"none">
<div><br clear=3D"none"><span></span></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px"><span>=C2=A0- =
You can only ever have one on you for your entire life, as it never dissapa=
tes. Duration &#39;special&#39;. Spell effects do not specify duration. Eve=
n if used, the rune fades, nothing about the spell dissipating.</span></div=
>

<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px"><br clear=3D"n=
one"><span></span></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px"><span>=C2=A0- =
Can the adept have several going at the same time? I would say no, or at le=
ast the activating part must stack so the adept can only activate in the or=
der they are cast.</span></div>

<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px"><br clear=3D"n=
one"><span></span></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px"><span>All up a=
n appalling spell that is open to abuse by the GM. Excellent :)<br clear=3D=
"none">
</span></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px"><br clear=3D"n=
one"><span></span></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px">Any rune mages=
 who wish their spell updated to something like the following should come o=
n one of my adventures:<br clear=3D"none">
<span></span></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px"><span><br clea=
r=3D"none"></span></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px">Duration &quot=
;Immediate&quot; <br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px">Range: &quot;T=
ouch, 1 foot per rank over 10&quot;<br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px">Effect: &quot;=
the Adept creates a magical rune of healing over the heart of the target.. =
</div>

<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px">The rune may b=
e activated by the adept, if the target is within 15 feet/rank, or by the t=
arget.<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px">An alternative=
 form restricts the activation to only when the target gets to negative EN.=
<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px">The rune dissi=
pates after blah hours of being cast or yadda pulses after being activated.=
<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px">Does not stack=
 or queue. A nice GM may allow both forms to be cast once on the same targe=
t.<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px">Cannot receive=
 additional magical healings in the same pulse as the rune is active.&quot;=
<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px"><br clear=3D"n=
one"></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px">Dont ask me to=
 define &#39;blah&#39; as that requires philosophy.</div>
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ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px">&#39;nice&#39;=
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<div style=3D"BORDER-BOTTOM:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,=
204,204) 1px solid;PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;LINE-HEIGHT:0;MARGIN:5px 0px;MIN-HEIG=
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 readonly>
</div><font face=3D"Arial"><b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:bold">From:</span>=
</b> Jim Arona &lt;jim.arona@gmail..com&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b><span styl=
e=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:bold">To:</span></b> <a href=3D"mailto:dq@dq.sf.org.nz" sh=
ape=3D"rect" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">dq@dq.sf.org.nz</a> <br cle=
ar=3D"none">
<b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, 1 June 2014 6:=
04 PM<br clear=3D"none"><b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Subject:</span>=
</b> Re: [dq] DQ rule book 2014<br clear=3D"none"></font></div>
<div>
<div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
<div>
<div><font face=3D"georgia,serif">This can&#39;t be resolved by a rule clar=
ification. This is, regardless of the author&#39;s intention, a rule change=
.<br clear=3D"none"></font>I&#39;m not sure what I think about it, but it w=
ill make player characters less resilient, which may be a good thing.</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none">=C2=A0</div>
<div>On 1 June 2014 17:23, Kelsie McArthur <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:kelsiemca@gmail.com" shape=3D"rect" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_bla=
nk">kelsiemca@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Opinions: Is this a correct reading by Chris? Original int=
ent of writer?<br clear=3D"none">
<div><br clear=3D"none">suggested change to a rune college spell wording<br=
 clear=3D"none">
<div>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><b><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:Arial,Bold;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Rune of Willow Healing (S-9)</span></b></d=
iv>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Range: </span></i><span style=3D=
"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">15 feet + 15 / Rank</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Duration: </span></i><span style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Special</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Experience Multiple: </span></i>=
<span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">450</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Base Chance: </span></i><span st=
yle=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">35%</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Resist: </span></i><span style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Passive</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Target: </span></i><span style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Any living creature</span></di=
v>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Rune: </span></i><span style=3D"=
FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Over heart of target</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Effects: </span></i><span style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">The Adept first paints The Run=
e of Healing</span></div>

<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><span style=3D"FONT-FAM=
ILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">over the heart of the target. At any time =
within</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><span style=3D"FONT-FAM=
ILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">twice rank hours the adept activates the R=
une</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><span style=3D"FONT-FAM=
ILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">within range. The rune will heal the targe=
t 3 endurance</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><span style=3D"FONT-FAM=
ILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">damage per pulse for (Rank + 2) pulses the=
n</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:115%;FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8p=
t">fades.</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:115%;FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8p=
t">=C2=A0</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><b><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:Arial,Bold;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Rune of Willow Healing (S-9)</span></b></d=
iv>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Range: </span></i><span style=3D=
"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">15 feet + 15 / Rank</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Duration: </span></i><span style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Special</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Experience Multiple: </span></i>=
<span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">450</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Base Chance: </span></i><span st=
yle=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">35%</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Resist: </span></i><span style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Passive</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Target: </span></i><span style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Any living creature</span></di=
v>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Rune: </span></i><span style=3D"=
FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Over heart of target</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Effects: </span></i><span style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">The Adept first paints The Run=
e of Healing</span></div>

<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><span style=3D"FONT-FAM=
ILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">over the heart of the target. At any time =
within</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><span style=3D"FONT-FAM=
ILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">twice rank hours the adept activates the R=
une <br clear=3D"none"></span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><span style=3D"FONT-FAM=
ILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">(on a single target) within range by using=
 a magical <br clear=3D"none"></span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><span style=3D"FONT-FAM=
ILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">pass action . <br clear=3D"none"></span></=
div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><span style=3D"FONT-FAM=
ILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">The rune will heal the target 3 endurance<=
/span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><span style=3D"FONT-FAM=
ILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">damage per pulse for (Rank + 2) pulses the=
n</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:115%;FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8p=
t">fades.</span></div><br clear=3D"none"></div><br clear=3D"none"></blockqu=
ote></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br clear=3D"none"></div><br clear=
=3D"none">
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/div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><br clear=3D"none"></div></div><b=
r><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><br>

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DateSun, 1 Jun 2014 23:25:39 +0100 (BST)
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=0AI'm wondering how many GM's actually run it that way, as every single GM=
 I've seen run it has run it as a pass action activation that the mage must=
 be inside range for.=A0 Do any of the other rune mages experience it playe=
d as a free action?=A0 As it's not something I've experienced so the clarif=
ication exactly matches the way I've seen it played since the rune college =
was rewritten.=0A=0ABernard =0A=0Anevyn0ad@yahoo.co.uk=0A=0A=0A=0A_________=
_______________________=0A From: Jim Arona <jim.arona@gmail.com>=0ATo: dq@d=
q.sf.org.nz =0ASent: Monday, 2 June 2014 10:20 AM=0ASubject: Re: [dq] DQ ru=
le book 2014=0A =0A=0A=0AIt's not trivial, it's a significant change, it wi=
ll have an impact on how the=A0combat is run where Rune mages are involved.=
 It's not a bad thing, it is something that needs to be discussed.=0A=0A=0A=
=0A=0AOn 2 June 2014 02:15, Ian Wood <dawnhaven@xtra.co.nz> wrote:=0A=0Awel=
l given that the rule book does not and never has included the term 'free a=
ction' then any such 'run time' decision is up the GM.=0A>=0A>=0A>Consisten=
cy is the benchmark of any good rule set, so no discussion is required on t=
his trivial clarification of how the spell works within the current rules.=
=0A>=0A>=0A>Ian=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>From: Jim Arona <jim.arona@gmail.com>=0A=
>>To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz =0A>>Sent: Sunday, 1 June 2014 7:41 PM =0A>>=0A>>Subj=
ect: Re: [dq] DQ rule book 2014=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>The change will have a s=
ignificant effect on game runtime, it is not at all trivial. Other DMs have=
 been allowing activation by Free Action. Under the current write up, indiv=
idual DMs may require a Pass Action or what have you and in that case it wo=
uld not require any kind of conversation at all. Because Kelsey's version i=
mposes an interpretation however sensible and valid, then this requires dis=
cussion.=0A>>Otherwise, the ruleset is being changed by whoever edits the r=
ulebook and fuck that for a game of soldiers.=0A>>=A0=0A>>On 1 June 2014 18=
:49, Ian Wood <dawnhaven@xtra.co.nz> wrote:=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>>I vote it can be=
 improved as a rule clarification.=0A>>>=0A>>>It is a trivial clarification=
 and does not involve a rule change as i would not allow a free action to a=
ctivate it.=0A>>>=0A>>>I vote 'yay', make the change.=0A>>>=0A>>>Anyway, it=
 is a stupid write up:=0A>>>=A0- I first read that the adept needed a long =
brush, or chisel, to scribe the rune from 165 feet, but what the hell.=0A>>=
>=0A>>>=A0- I would prefer the rune to be automatically activated if the ta=
rget gets to zero EN, and for the target to be able to activate it.=0A>>>=
=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=A0- You can only ever have one on you for your entire li=
fe, as it never dissapates. Duration 'special'. Spell effects do not specif=
y duration. Even if used, the rune fades, nothing about the spell dissipati=
ng.=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=A0- Can the adept have several going at the same time=
? I would say no, or at least the activating part must stack so the adept c=
an only activate in the order they are cast.=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>All up an app=
alling spell that is open to abuse by the GM. Excellent :)=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>=
>=0A>>>Any rune mages who wish their spell updated to something like the fo=
llowing should come on one of my adventures:=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>Duratio=
n "Immediate" =0A>>>=0A>>>Range: "Touch, 1 foot per rank over 10"=0A>>>=0A>=
>>Effect: "the Adept creates a magical rune of healing over the heart of th=
e target.. =0A>>>The rune may be activated by the adept, if the target is w=
ithin 15 feet/rank, or by the target.=0A>>>=0A>>>An alternative form restri=
cts the activation to only when the target gets to negative EN.=0A>>>=0A>>>=
The rune dissipates after blah hours of being cast or yadda pulses after be=
ing activated.=0A>>>=0A>>>Does not stack or queue. A nice GM may allow both=
 forms to be cast once on the same target.=0A>>>=0A>>>Cannot receive additi=
onal magical healings in the same pulse as the rune is active."=0A>>>=0A>>>=
=0A>>>=0A>>>Dont ask me to define 'blah' as that requires philosophy.=0A>>>=
'nice' =3D gullible=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>Ian=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>From: Jim A=
rona <jim.arona@gmail..com>=0A>>>>To: dq@dq.sf.org.nz =0A>>>>Sent: Sunday, =
1 June 2014 6:04 PM=0A>>>>Subject: Re: [dq] DQ rule book 2014=0A>>>>=0A>>>>=
=0A>>>>=0A>>>>This can't be resolved by a rule clarification. This is, rega=
rdless of the author's intention, a rule change.=0A>>>>I'm not sure what I =
think about it, but it will make player characters less resilient, which ma=
y be a good thing.=0A>>>>=0A>>>>=A0=0A>>>>On 1 June 2014 17:23, Kelsie McAr=
thur <kelsiemca@gmail.com> wrote:=0A>>>>=0A>>>>Opinions: Is this a correct =
reading by Chris? Original intent of writer?=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>suggest=
ed change to a rune college spell wording=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>=
Rune of Willow Healing (S-9)=0A>>>>>>Range: 15 feet + 15 / Rank=0A>>>>>>Dur=
ation: Special=0A>>>>>>Experience Multiple: 450=0A>>>>>>Base Chance: 35%=0A=
>>>>>>Resist: Passive=0A>>>>>>Target: Any living creature=0A>>>>>>Rune: Ove=
r heart of target=0A>>>>>>Effects: The Adept first paints The Rune of Heali=
ng=0A>>>>>>over the heart of the target. At any time within=0A>>>>>>twice r=
ank hours the adept activates the Rune=0A>>>>>>within range. The rune will =
heal the target 3 endurance=0A>>>>>>damage per pulse for (Rank + 2) pulses =
then=0A>>>>>>fades.=0A>>>>>>=A0=0A>>>>>>Rune of Willow Healing (S-9)=0A>>>>=
>>Range: 15 feet + 15 / Rank=0A>>>>>>Duration: Special=0A>>>>>>Experience M=
ultiple: 450=0A>>>>>>Base Chance: 35%=0A>>>>>>Resist: Passive=0A>>>>>>Targe=
t: Any living creature=0A>>>>>>Rune: Over heart of target=0A>>>>>>Effects: =
The Adept first paints The Rune of Healing=0A>>>>>>over the heart of the ta=
rget. At any time within=0A>>>>>>twice rank hours the adept activates the R=
une =0A>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>(on a single target) within range by using a magical =
=0A>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>pass action . =0A>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>The rune will heal the ta=
rget 3 endurance=0A>>>>>>damage per pulse for (Rank + 2) pulses then=0A>>>>=
>>fades.=0A>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>=0A>>>>=0A>>>>=0A>>>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>
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lveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif;fo=
nt-size:8pt"><div><span><br>I'm wondering how many GM's actually run it tha=
t way, as every single GM I've seen run it has run it as a pass action acti=
vation that the mage must be inside range for.&nbsp; Do any of the other ru=
ne mages experience it played as a free action?&nbsp; As it's not something=
 I've experienced so the clarification exactly matches the way I've seen it=
 played since the rune college was rewritten.</span></div><div style=3D"col=
or: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 10.6667px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetic=
a Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,Sans-Serif; background-color: transpar=
ent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div>Bernard <br></div><di=
v>nevyn0ad@yahoo.co.uk<br></div><div><br></div>  <div style=3D"font-family:=
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 Sans-Serif; font-size: 8pt;"> <div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, =
new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <hr size=3D"1"=
>  <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">Fr=
om:</span></b> Jim Arona &lt;jim.arona@gmail.com&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"=
font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> dq@dq.sf.org.nz <br> <b><span style=3D"f=
ont-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, 2 June 2014 10:20 AM<br> <b><sp=
an style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [dq] DQ rule book 2=
014<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><br><div id=3D"yiv026=
4897725"><div><font face=3D"georgia,serif">It's not trivial, it's a signifi=
cant change, it will have an impact on how the&nbsp;combat is run where Run=
e mages are involved. It's not a bad thing, it <b>is</b> something that nee=
ds to be discussed.<br clear=3D"none">=0A</font><br clear=3D"none">=0A<div =
class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class=3D"yiv0264897725yqt4837356=
184" id=3D"yiv0264897725yqt10684"><div class=3D"yiv0264897725gmail_quote">O=
n 2 June 2014 02:15, Ian Wood <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" sha=
pe=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:dawnhaven@xtra.co.nz" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"mailto:dawnhaven@xtra.co.nz">dawnhaven@xtra.co.nz</a>&gt;</span> wrote:=
<br clear=3D"none">=0A<blockquote class=3D"yiv0264897725gmail_quote" style=
=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex;">=
=0A<div>=0A<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:#fff;FONT-FAMILY:garamond, new yo=
rk, times, serif;COLOR:#000;FONT-SIZE:12pt;">=0A<div><span></span></div>=0A=
<div>well given that the rule book does not and never has included the term=
 'free action' then any such 'run time' decision is up the GM.</div>=0A<div=
><br clear=3D"none"></div>=0A<div>Consistency is the benchmark of any good =
rule set, so no discussion is required on this trivial clarification of how=
 the spell works within the current rules.</div>=0A<div><br clear=3D"none">=
</div>=0A<div>Ian</div>=0A<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>=0A<div><br clear=
=3D"none"></div>=0A<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:rgb(16,16,255) 2px soli=
d;MARGIN-TOP:5px;PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;">=0A<div style=3D"FONT-F=
AMILY:garamond, new york, times, serif;FONT-SIZE:12pt;">=0A<div style=3D"FO=
NT-FAMILY:times new roman, new york, times, serif;FONT-SIZE:12pt;">=0A<div =
dir=3D"ltr">=0A<div style=3D"BORDER-BOTTOM:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;BORDE=
R-LEFT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;LINE-HEIGHT:0;MARGIN:5=
px 0px;MIN-HEIGHT:0px;PADDING-LEFT:0px;PADDING-RIGHT:0px;FONT-SIZE:0px;BORD=
ER-TOP:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;BORDER-RIGHT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;P=
ADDING-TOP:0px;">=0A</div><font face=3D"Arial"><b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGH=
T:bold;">From:</span></b> Jim Arona &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:jim.arona@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:jim=
.arona@gmail.com">jim.arona@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b><span st=
yle=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">To:</span></b> <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect"=
 ymailto=3D"mailto:dq@dq.sf.org.nz" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:dq@dq.=
sf.org.nz">dq@dq.sf.org.nz</a> <br clear=3D"none">=0A<b><span style=3D"FONT=
-WEIGHT:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, 1 June 2014 7:41 PM =0A</font><div>=
<br clear=3D"none"><b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">Subject:</span></b>=
 Re: [dq] DQ rule book 2014<br clear=3D"none"></div></div>=0A<div><br clear=
=3D"none">=0A<div>=0A<div>=0A<div>=0A<div><font face=3D"georgia,serif">The =
change will have a significant effect on game runtime, it is not at all tri=
vial. Other DMs have been allowing activation by Free Action. Under the cur=
rent write up, individual DMs may require a Pass Action or what have you an=
d in that case it would not require any kind of conversation at all. Becaus=
e Kelsey's version imposes an interpretation however sensible and valid, th=
en this <b>requires</b> discussion.</font></div>=0A=0A<div><font face=3D"Ge=
orgia">Otherwise, the ruleset is being changed by whoever edits the ruleboo=
k and fuck that for a game of soldiers.</font></div>=0A<div>&nbsp;</div></d=
iv>=0A<div>=0A<div>=0A<div>On 1 June 2014 18:49, Ian Wood <span dir=3D"ltr"=
>&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:dawnhaven@xtra.co=
.nz" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:dawnhaven@xtra.co.nz">dawnhaven@xtra.=
co.nz</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div></div>=0A<div>=0A<block=
quote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.=
8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex;">=0A<div>=0A<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:rgb(255,25=
5,255);FONT-FAMILY:garamond, new york, times, serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-S=
IZE:12pt;">=0A<div><br clear=3D"none">I vote it can be improved as a rule c=
larification.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">It is a trivial clarific=
ation and does not involve a rule change as i would not allow a free action=
 to activate it.<br clear=3D"none">=0A<br clear=3D"none">I vote 'yay', make=
 the change.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Anyway, it is a stupid wr=
ite up:<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp;- I first read that the adept needed a long=
 brush, or chisel, to scribe the rune from 165 feet, but what the hell.<br =
clear=3D"none">=0A<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp;- I would prefer the rune to be =
automatically activated if the target gets to zero EN, and for the target t=
o be able to activate it.<br clear=3D"none">=0A<div><br clear=3D"none"><spa=
n></span></div>=0A<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:nor=
mal;FONT-FAMILY:garamond, new york, times, serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE=
:16px;"><span>&nbsp;- You can only ever have one on you for your entire lif=
e, as it never dissapates. Duration 'special'. Spell effects do not specify=
 duration. Even if used, the rune fades, nothing about the spell dissipatin=
g.</span></div>=0A=0A<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:=
normal;FONT-FAMILY:garamond, new york, times, serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-S=
IZE:16px;"><br clear=3D"none"><span></span></div>=0A<div style=3D"BACKGROUN=
D-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:garamond, new york, times=
, serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px;"><span>&nbsp;- Can the adept have =
several going at the same time? I would say no, or at least the activating =
part must stack so the adept can only activate in the order they are cast.<=
/span></div>=0A=0A<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:nor=
mal;FONT-FAMILY:garamond, new york, times, serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE=
:16px;"><br clear=3D"none"><span></span></div>=0A<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-C=
OLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:garamond, new york, times, s=
erif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px;"><span>All up an appalling spell that=
 is open to abuse by the GM. Excellent :)<br clear=3D"none">=0A</span></div=
>=0A<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMIL=
Y:garamond, new york, times, serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px;"><br cl=
ear=3D"none"><span></span></div>=0A<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transpare=
nt;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:garamond, new york, times, serif;COLOR:rgb=
(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px;">Any rune mages who wish their spell updated to som=
ething like the following should come on one of my adventures:<br clear=3D"=
none">=0A<span></span></div>=0A<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;F=
ONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:garamond, new york, times, serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0=
,0);FONT-SIZE:16px;"><span><br clear=3D"none"></span></div>=0A<div style=3D=
"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:garamond, new y=
ork, times, serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px;">Duration "Immediate" <b=
r clear=3D"none"></div>=0A<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-S=
TYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:garamond, new york, times, serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);F=
ONT-SIZE:16px;">Range: "Touch, 1 foot per rank over 10"<br clear=3D"none"><=
/div>=0A<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-F=
AMILY:garamond, new york, times, serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px;">Ef=
fect: "the Adept creates a magical rune of healing over the heart of the ta=
rget.. </div>=0A=0A<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:no=
rmal;FONT-FAMILY:garamond, new york, times, serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZ=
E:16px;">The rune may be activated by the adept, if the target is within 15=
 feet/rank, or by the target.<br clear=3D"none">=0A</div>=0A<div style=3D"B=
ACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:garamond, new yor=
k, times, serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px;">An alternative form restr=
icts the activation to only when the target gets to negative EN.<br clear=
=3D"none">=0A</div>=0A<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE=
:normal;FONT-FAMILY:garamond, new york, times, serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-=
SIZE:16px;">The rune dissipates after blah hours of being cast or yadda pul=
ses after being activated.<br clear=3D"none">=0A</div>=0A<div style=3D"BACK=
GROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:garamond, new york, =
times, serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px;">Does not stack or queue. A n=
ice GM may allow both forms to be cast once on the same target.<br clear=3D=
"none">=0A</div>=0A<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:no=
rmal;FONT-FAMILY:garamond, new york, times, serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZ=
E:16px;">Cannot receive additional magical healings in the same pulse as th=
e rune is active."<br clear=3D"none">=0A</div>=0A<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-C=
OLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:garamond, new york, times, s=
erif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px;"><br clear=3D"none"></div>=0A<div sty=
le=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:garamond, =
new york, times, serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px;">Dont ask me to def=
ine 'blah' as that requires philosophy.</div>=0A<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-CO=
LOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:garamond, new york, times, se=
rif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px;">'nice' =3D gullible</div>=0A<div styl=
e=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:garamond, n=
ew york, times, serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px;"><br clear=3D"none">=
</div>=0A<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-=
FAMILY:garamond, new york, times, serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px;">I=
an<br clear=3D"none"></div></div>=0A<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transpar=
ent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:garamond, new york, times, serif;COLOR:rg=
b(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px;"><br clear=3D"none">=0A<div>=0A<div class=3D"yiv02=
64897725h5">=0A<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid;MA=
RGIN-TOP:5px;PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;">=0A<div style=3D"FONT-FAMIL=
Y:garamond, new york, times, serif;FONT-SIZE:12pt;">=0A<div style=3D"FONT-F=
AMILY:times new roman, new york, times, serif;FONT-SIZE:12pt;">=0A<div dir=
=3D"ltr">=0A<div style=3D"BORDER-BOTTOM:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;BORDER-L=
EFT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;LINE-HEIGHT:0;MARGIN:5px =
0px;MIN-HEIGHT:0px;PADDING-LEFT:0px;PADDING-RIGHT:0px;FONT-SIZE:0px;BORDER-=
TOP:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;BORDER-RIGHT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;PADD=
ING-TOP:0px;">=0A</div><font face=3D"Arial"><b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:b=
old;">From:</span></b> Jim Arona &lt;jim.arona@gmail..com&gt;<br clear=3D"n=
one"><b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">To:</span></b> <a rel=3D"nofollow=
" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:dq@dq.sf.org.nz" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"mailto:dq@dq.sf.org.nz">dq@dq.sf.org.nz</a> <br clear=3D"none">=0A<b><s=
pan style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, 1 June 2014 6:04 P=
M<br clear=3D"none"><b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">Subject:</span></b=
> Re: [dq] DQ rule book 2014<br clear=3D"none"></font></div>=0A<div>=0A<div=
>=0A<div><br clear=3D"none">=0A<div>=0A<div><font face=3D"georgia,serif">Th=
is can't be resolved by a rule clarification. This is, regardless of the au=
thor's intention, a rule change.<br clear=3D"none"></font>I'm not sure what=
 I think about it, but it will make player characters less resilient, which=
 may be a good thing.</div>=0A=0A<div><br clear=3D"none">&nbsp;</div>=0A<di=
v>On 1 June 2014 17:23, Kelsie McArthur <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"nof=
ollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:kelsiemca@gmail.com" target=3D"_bla=
nk" href=3D"mailto:kelsiemca@gmail.com">kelsiemca@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br clear=3D"none">=0A<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,204,20=
4) 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex;">=0A<div dir=3D"ltr=
">Opinions: Is this a correct reading by Chris? Original intent of writer?<=
br clear=3D"none">=0A<div><br clear=3D"none">suggested change to a rune col=
lege spell wording<br clear=3D"none">=0A<div>=0A<blockquote style=3D"BORDER=
-LEFT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex;=
">=0A<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">=0A<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:norma=
l;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt;"><b><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:Arial, Bold;FONT-SIZE:8=
pt;">Rune of Willow Healing (S-9)</span></b></div>=0A<div style=3D"LINE-HEI=
GHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt;"><i><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,=
 Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt;">Range: </span></i><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesN=
ewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt;">15 feet + 15 / Rank</span></div>=0A<div style=3D"LI=
NE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt;"><i><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNew=
Roman, Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt;">Duration: </span></i><span style=3D"FONT-FAMI=
LY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt;">Special</span></div>=0A<div style=3D"LINE-=
HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt;"><i><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRom=
an, Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt;">Experience Multiple: </span></i><span style=3D"F=
ONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt;">450</span></div>=0A<div style=3D"L=
INE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt;"><i><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNe=
wRoman, Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt;">Base Chance: </span></i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt;">35%</span></div>=0A<div style=3D"LINE-=
HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt;"><i><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRom=
an, Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt;">Resist: </span></i><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:Ti=
mesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt;">Passive</span></div>=0A<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGH=
T:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt;"><i><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman, I=
talic;FONT-SIZE:8pt;">Target: </span></i><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNe=
wRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt;">Any living creature</span></div>=0A<div style=3D"LIN=
E-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt;"><i><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewR=
oman, Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt;">Rune: </span></i><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:Ti=
mesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt;">Over heart of target</span></div>=0A<div style=
=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt;"><i><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:Ti=
mesNewRoman, Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt;">Effects: </span></i><span style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt;">The Adept first paints The Rune of He=
aling</span></div>=0A=0A<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt;=
"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt;">over the heart o=
f the target. At any time within</span></div>=0A<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:n=
ormal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt;"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZ=
E:8pt;">twice rank hours the adept activates the Rune</span></div>=0A<div s=
tyle=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt;"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:T=
imesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt;">within range. The rune will heal the target 3 =
endurance</span></div>=0A<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt=
;"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt;">damage per puls=
e for (Rank + 2) pulses then</span></div>=0A<div><span style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT=
:115%;FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt;">fades.</span></div>=0A<div>=
<span style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:115%;FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt;">&=
nbsp;</span></div>=0A<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt;"><=
b><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:Arial, Bold;FONT-SIZE:8pt;">Rune of Willow Hea=
ling (S-9)</span></b></div>=0A<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTO=
M:0pt;"><i><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman, Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt;"=
>Range: </span></i><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt;"=
>15 feet + 15 / Rank</span></div>=0A<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN=
-BOTTOM:0pt;"><i><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman, Italic;FONT-SIZE=
:8pt;">Duration: </span></i><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-S=
IZE:8pt;">Special</span></div>=0A<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BO=
TTOM:0pt;"><i><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman, Italic;FONT-SIZE:8p=
t;">Experience Multiple: </span></i><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoma=
n;FONT-SIZE:8pt;">450</span></div>=0A<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGI=
N-BOTTOM:0pt;"><i><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman, Italic;FONT-SIZ=
E:8pt;">Base Chance: </span></i><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FO=
NT-SIZE:8pt;">35%</span></div>=0A<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BO=
TTOM:0pt;"><i><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman, Italic;FONT-SIZE:8p=
t;">Resist: </span></i><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8=
pt;">Passive</span></div>=0A<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:=
0pt;"><i><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman, Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt;">T=
arget: </span></i><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt;">=
Any living creature</span></div>=0A<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-=
BOTTOM:0pt;"><i><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman, Italic;FONT-SIZE:=
8pt;">Rune: </span></i><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8=
pt;">Over heart of target</span></div>=0A<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;M=
ARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt;"><i><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman, Italic;FONT=
-SIZE:8pt;">Effects: </span></i><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FO=
NT-SIZE:8pt;">The Adept first paints The Rune of Healing</span></div>=0A=0A=
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt;"><span style=3D"FONT-FA=
MILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt;">over the heart of the target. At any tim=
e within</span></div>=0A<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt;=
"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt;">twice rank hours=
 the adept activates the Rune <br clear=3D"none"></span></div>=0A<div style=
=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt;"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:Times=
NewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt;">(on a single target) within range by using a magic=
al <br clear=3D"none"></span></div>=0A<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARG=
IN-BOTTOM:0pt;"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt;">pa=
ss action . <br clear=3D"none"></span></div>=0A<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:no=
rmal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt;"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE=
:8pt;">The rune will heal the target 3 endurance</span></div>=0A<div style=
=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt;"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:Times=
NewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt;">damage per pulse for (Rank + 2) pulses then</span>=
</div>=0A<div><span style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:115%;FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FON=
T-SIZE:8pt;">fades.</span></div><br clear=3D"none"></div><br clear=3D"none"=
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I expect that they will be the same binding as last time.

 Steve is in charge of that.


On 2 June 2014 08:23, Chris Caulfield <chriscaulf@gmail.com> wrote:

> will the ordered rulebooks be hardbound or simply printed pdf?
> A new edition of the rulebook will be available at the June guild meeting.
>
> to place your orders go to
> http://www.dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?title=Rulebook_Orders
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I expect that they will be the same binding as last t=
ime.<br><br></div><div>=C2=A0Steve is in charge of that.<br></div></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 2 June 2014 0=
8:23, Chris Caulfield <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:chriscaulf@gm=
ail.com" target=3D"_blank">chriscaulf@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir=3D"ltr">will the ordered rulebooks be=
 hardbound or simply printed pdf?</p><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5=
">
<div style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex=
"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>A new edition of the rulebook will be available at =
the June guild meeting.<br><br></div>
to place your orders go to <a href=3D"http://www.dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php=
?title=3DRulebook_Orders" target=3D"_blank">http://www.dq-nz.org/dqwiki/ind=
ex.php?title=3DRulebook_Orders</a><br>
</div>
</div>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>

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So the simple answer is that it is not just a clarification so it doesn't
go in this months rulebook.

If rewriting is desirable it needs to go through "the process" and be voted
on.

K

PS I think it should trigger on endurance damage to an individual target.


On 2 June 2014 10:25, Bernard Hoggins <nevyn0ad@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>
> I'm wondering how many GM's actually run it that way, as every single GM
> I've seen run it has run it as a pass action activation that the mage must
> be inside range for.  Do any of the other rune mages experience it played
> as a free action?  As it's not something I've experienced so the
> clarification exactly matches the way I've seen it played since the rune
> college was rewritten.
>
> Bernard
> nevyn0ad@yahoo.co.uk
>
>   ------------------------------
>  *From:* Jim Arona <jim.arona@gmail.com>
> *To:* dq@dq.sf.org.nz
> *Sent:* Monday, 2 June 2014 10:20 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [dq] DQ rule book 2014
>
> It's not trivial, it's a significant change, it will have an impact on how
> the combat is run where Rune mages are involved. It's not a bad thing, it
> *is* something that needs to be discussed.
>
>
>
> On 2 June 2014 02:15, Ian Wood <dawnhaven@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>
>   well given that the rule book does not and never has included the term
> 'free action' then any such 'run time' decision is up the GM.
>
> Consistency is the benchmark of any good rule set, so no discussion is
> required on this trivial clarification of how the spell works within the
> current rules.
>
> Ian
>
>
>    *From:* Jim Arona <jim.arona@gmail.com>
> *To:* dq@dq.sf.org.nz
> *Sent:* Sunday, 1 June 2014 7:41 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [dq] DQ rule book 2014
>
>   The change will have a significant effect on game runtime, it is not at
> all trivial. Other DMs have been allowing activation by Free Action. Under
> the current write up, individual DMs may require a Pass Action or what have
> you and in that case it would not require any kind of conversation at all.
> Because Kelsey's version imposes an interpretation however sensible and
> valid, then this *requires* discussion.
> Otherwise, the ruleset is being changed by whoever edits the rulebook and
> fuck that for a game of soldiers.
>
>  On 1 June 2014 18:49, Ian Wood <dawnhaven@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>
>
> I vote it can be improved as a rule clarification.
>
> It is a trivial clarification and does not involve a rule change as i
> would not allow a free action to activate it.
>
> I vote 'yay', make the change.
>
> Anyway, it is a stupid write up:
>  - I first read that the adept needed a long brush, or chisel, to scribe
> the rune from 165 feet, but what the hell.
>
>  - I would prefer the rune to be automatically activated if the target
> gets to zero EN, and for the target to be able to activate it.
>
>  - You can only ever have one on you for your entire life, as it never
> dissapates. Duration 'special'. Spell effects do not specify duration. Even
> if used, the rune fades, nothing about the spell dissipating.
>
>  - Can the adept have several going at the same time? I would say no, or
> at least the activating part must stack so the adept can only activate in
> the order they are cast.
>
> All up an appalling spell that is open to abuse by the GM. Excellent :)
>
> Any rune mages who wish their spell updated to something like the
> following should come on one of my adventures:
>
> Duration "Immediate"
> Range: "Touch, 1 foot per rank over 10"
> Effect: "the Adept creates a magical rune of healing over the heart of the
> target..
> The rune may be activated by the adept, if the target is within 15
> feet/rank, or by the target.
>  An alternative form restricts the activation to only when the target
> gets to negative EN.
>  The rune dissipates after blah hours of being cast or yadda pulses after
> being activated.
>  Does not stack or queue. A nice GM may allow both forms to be cast once
> on the same target.
>  Cannot receive additional magical healings in the same pulse as the rune
> is active."
>
> Dont ask me to define 'blah' as that requires philosophy.
> 'nice' = gullible
>
> Ian
>
>     *From:* Jim Arona <jim.arona@gmail..com>
> *To:* dq@dq.sf.org.nz
> *Sent:* Sunday, 1 June 2014 6:04 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [dq] DQ rule book 2014
>
>  This can't be resolved by a rule clarification. This is, regardless of
> the author's intention, a rule change.
> I'm not sure what I think about it, but it will make player characters
> less resilient, which may be a good thing.
>
>
> On 1 June 2014 17:23, Kelsie McArthur <kelsiemca@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Opinions: Is this a correct reading by Chris? Original intent of writer?
>
> suggested change to a rune college spell wording
>
>
> *Rune of Willow Healing (S-9)*
> *Range: *15 feet + 15 / Rank
> *Duration: *Special
> *Experience Multiple: *450
> *Base Chance: *35%
> *Resist: *Passive
> *Target: *Any living creature
> *Rune: *Over heart of target
> *Effects: *The Adept first paints The Rune of Healing
> over the heart of the target. At any time within
> twice rank hours the adept activates the Rune
> within range. The rune will heal the target 3 endurance
> damage per pulse for (Rank + 2) pulses then
> fades.
>
> *Rune of Willow Healing (S-9)*
> *Range: *15 feet + 15 / Rank
> *Duration: *Special
> *Experience Multiple: *450
> *Base Chance: *35%
> *Resist: *Passive
> *Target: *Any living creature
> *Rune: *Over heart of target
> *Effects: *The Adept first paints The Rune of Healing
> over the heart of the target. At any time within
> twice rank hours the adept activates the Rune
> (on a single target) within range by using a magical
> pass action .
> The rune will heal the target 3 endurance
> damage per pulse for (Rank + 2) pulses then
> fades.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>So the simple answer is that it is not just a clarifi=
cation so it doesn&#39;t go in this months rulebook.<br><br></div><div>If r=
ewriting is desirable it needs to go through &quot;the process&quot; and be=
 voted on.<br>
<br></div><div>K<br><br></div><div>PS I think it should trigger on enduranc=
e damage to an individual target.<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"=
><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 2 June 2014 10:25, Bernard Hoggins <=
span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nevyn0ad@yahoo.co.uk" target=3D"_bla=
nk">nevyn0ad@yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"color:#000;background-col=
or:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Gra=
nde,Sans-Serif;font-size:8pt">
<div><span><br>I&#39;m wondering how many GM&#39;s actually run it that way=
, as every single GM I&#39;ve seen run it has run it as a pass action activ=
ation that the mage must be inside range for.=C2=A0 Do any of the other run=
e mages experience it played as a free action?=C2=A0 As it&#39;s not someth=
ing I&#39;ve experienced so the clarification exactly matches the way I&#39=
;ve seen it played since the rune college was rewritten.</span></div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:10.6667px;font-family:HelveticaNeu=
e,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,Sans-Serif;background-color:=
transparent;font-style:normal"><br><span></span></div><div>Bernard <br></di=
v>
<div><a href=3D"mailto:nevyn0ad@yahoo.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">nevyn0ad@yah=
oo.co.uk</a><br></div><div><br></div>  <div style=3D"font-family:HelveticaN=
eue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,Sans-Serif;font-size:8pt">=
 <div style=3D"font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:1=
2pt">
 <div dir=3D"ltr"> <hr size=3D"1">  <font face=3D"Arial"><div class=3D""> <=
b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Jim Arona &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:jim.arona@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jim.arona@gmail.com</a>&g=
t;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href=3D"mailto=
:dq@dq.sf.org.nz" target=3D"_blank">dq@dq.sf.org.nz</a> <br>
 </div><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, 2 June =
2014 10:20 AM<div><div class=3D"h5"><br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold=
">Subject:</span></b> Re: [dq] DQ rule book 2014<br> </div></div></font> </=
div>
<div><div class=3D"h5"> <div><br><div><div><font face=3D"georgia,serif">It&=
#39;s not trivial, it&#39;s a significant change, it will have an impact on=
 how the=C2=A0combat is run where Rune mages are involved. It&#39;s not a b=
ad thing, it <b>is</b> something that needs to be discussed.<br clear=3D"no=
ne">

</font><br clear=3D"none">
<div><br><br></div><div><div>On 2 June 2014 02:15, Ian Wood <span dir=3D"lt=
r">&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:dawnhaven@xtra.co.=
nz" target=3D"_blank">dawnhaven@xtra.co.nz</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br clear=
=3D"none">

<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PA=
DDING-LEFT:1ex">
<div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:#fff;FONT-FAMILY:garamond,new york,times,ser=
if;COLOR:#000;FONT-SIZE:12pt">
<div><span></span></div>
<div>well given that the rule book does not and never has included the term=
 &#39;free action&#39; then any such &#39;run time&#39; decision is up the =
GM.</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div>Consistency is the benchmark of any good rule set, so no discussion is=
 required on this trivial clarification of how the spell works within the c=
urrent rules.</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div>Ian</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid;MARGIN-TOP:5px;PA=
DDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px">
<div style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:garamond,new york,times,serif;FONT-SIZE:12pt">
<div style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:times new roman,new york,times,serif;FONT-SIZE:12=
pt">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"BORDER-BOTTOM:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,=
204,204) 1px solid;PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;LINE-HEIGHT:0;MARGIN:5px 0px;MIN-HEIG=
HT:0px;PADDING-LEFT:0px;PADDING-RIGHT:0px;FONT-SIZE:0px;BORDER-TOP:rgb(204,=
204,204) 1px solid;BORDER-RIGHT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;PADDING-TOP:0px"=
>

</div><font face=3D"Arial"><b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:bold">From:</span>=
</b> Jim Arona &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:jim.ar=
ona@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jim.arona@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"no=
ne"><b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:bold">To:</span></b> <a rel=3D"nofollow" =
shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:dq@dq.sf.org.nz" target=3D"_blank">dq@dq.sf.o=
rg.nz</a> <br clear=3D"none">

<b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, 1 June 2014 7:=
41 PM=20
</font><div><br clear=3D"none"><b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Subject:=
</span></b> Re: [dq] DQ rule book 2014<br clear=3D"none"></div></div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div><font face=3D"georgia,serif">The change will have a significant effect=
 on game runtime, it is not at all trivial. Other DMs have been allowing ac=
tivation by Free Action. Under the current write up, individual DMs may req=
uire a Pass Action or what have you and in that case it would not require a=
ny kind of conversation at all. Because Kelsey&#39;s version imposes an int=
erpretation however sensible and valid, then this <b>requires</b> discussio=
n.</font></div>


<div><font face=3D"Georgia">Otherwise, the ruleset is being changed by whoe=
ver edits the rulebook and fuck that for a game of soldiers.</font></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div></div>
<div>
<div>
<div>On 1 June 2014 18:49, Ian Wood <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollo=
w" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:dawnhaven@xtra.co.nz" target=3D"_blank">da=
wnhaven@xtra.co.nz</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div></div>
<div>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex">
<div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:rgb(255,255,255);FONT-FAMILY:garamond,new yo=
rk,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:12pt">
<div><br clear=3D"none">I vote it can be improved as a rule clarification.<=
br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">It is a trivial clarification and does=
 not involve a rule change as i would not allow a free action to activate i=
t.<br clear=3D"none">

<br clear=3D"none">I vote &#39;yay&#39;, make the change.<br clear=3D"none"=
><br clear=3D"none">Anyway, it is a stupid write up:<br clear=3D"none">=C2=
=A0- I first read that the adept needed a long brush, or chisel, to scribe =
the rune from 165 feet, but what the hell.<br clear=3D"none">

<br clear=3D"none">=C2=A0- I would prefer the rune to be automatically acti=
vated if the target gets to zero EN, and for the target to be able to activ=
ate it.<br clear=3D"none">
<div><br clear=3D"none"><span></span></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px"><span>=C2=A0- =
You can only ever have one on you for your entire life, as it never dissapa=
tes. Duration &#39;special&#39;. Spell effects do not specify duration. Eve=
n if used, the rune fades, nothing about the spell dissipating.</span></div=
>


<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px"><br clear=3D"n=
one"><span></span></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px"><span>=C2=A0- =
Can the adept have several going at the same time? I would say no, or at le=
ast the activating part must stack so the adept can only activate in the or=
der they are cast.</span></div>


<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px"><br clear=3D"n=
one"><span></span></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px"><span>All up a=
n appalling spell that is open to abuse by the GM. Excellent :)<br clear=3D=
"none">

</span></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px"><br clear=3D"n=
one"><span></span></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px">Any rune mages=
 who wish their spell updated to something like the following should come o=
n one of my adventures:<br clear=3D"none">

<span></span></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px"><span><br clea=
r=3D"none"></span></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px">Duration &quot=
;Immediate&quot; <br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px">Range: &quot;T=
ouch, 1 foot per rank over 10&quot;<br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px">Effect: &quot;=
the Adept creates a magical rune of healing over the heart of the target.. =
</div>


<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px">The rune may b=
e activated by the adept, if the target is within 15 feet/rank, or by the t=
arget.<br clear=3D"none">

</div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px">An alternative=
 form restricts the activation to only when the target gets to negative EN.=
<br clear=3D"none">

</div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px">The rune dissi=
pates after blah hours of being cast or yadda pulses after being activated.=
<br clear=3D"none">

</div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px">Does not stack=
 or queue. A nice GM may allow both forms to be cast once on the same targe=
t.<br clear=3D"none">

</div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px">Cannot receive=
 additional magical healings in the same pulse as the rune is active.&quot;=
<br clear=3D"none">

</div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px"><br clear=3D"n=
one"></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px">Dont ask me to=
 define &#39;blah&#39; as that requires philosophy.</div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px">&#39;nice&#39;=
 =3D gullible</div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px"><br clear=3D"n=
one"></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px">Ian<br clear=
=3D"none"></div></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px"><br clear=3D"n=
one">
<div>
<div>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid;MARGIN-TOP:5px;PA=
DDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px">
<div style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:garamond,new york,times,serif;FONT-SIZE:12pt">
<div style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:times new roman,new york,times,serif;FONT-SIZE:12=
pt">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"BORDER-BOTTOM:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,=
204,204) 1px solid;PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;LINE-HEIGHT:0;MARGIN:5px 0px;MIN-HEIG=
HT:0px;PADDING-LEFT:0px;PADDING-RIGHT:0px;FONT-SIZE:0px;BORDER-TOP:rgb(204,=
204,204) 1px solid;BORDER-RIGHT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;PADDING-TOP:0px"=
>

</div><font face=3D"Arial"><b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:bold">From:</span>=
</b> Jim Arona &lt;jim.arona@gmail..com&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b><span styl=
e=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:bold">To:</span></b> <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" hr=
ef=3D"mailto:dq@dq.sf.org.nz" target=3D"_blank">dq@dq.sf.org.nz</a> <br cle=
ar=3D"none">

<b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, 1 June 2014 6:=
04 PM<br clear=3D"none"><b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Subject:</span>=
</b> Re: [dq] DQ rule book 2014<br clear=3D"none"></font></div>
<div>
<div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
<div>
<div><font face=3D"georgia,serif">This can&#39;t be resolved by a rule clar=
ification. This is, regardless of the author&#39;s intention, a rule change=
.<br clear=3D"none"></font>I&#39;m not sure what I think about it, but it w=
ill make player characters less resilient, which may be a good thing.</div>


<div><br clear=3D"none">=C2=A0</div>
<div>On 1 June 2014 17:23, Kelsie McArthur <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"=
nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:kelsiemca@gmail.com" target=3D"_bla=
nk">kelsiemca@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Opinions: Is this a correct reading by Chris? Original int=
ent of writer?<br clear=3D"none">
<div><br clear=3D"none">suggested change to a rune college spell wording<br=
 clear=3D"none">
<div>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><b><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:Arial,Bold;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Rune of Willow Healing (S-9)</span></b></d=
iv>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Range: </span></i><span style=3D=
"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">15 feet + 15 / Rank</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Duration: </span></i><span style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Special</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Experience Multiple: </span></i>=
<span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">450</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Base Chance: </span></i><span st=
yle=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">35%</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Resist: </span></i><span style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Passive</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Target: </span></i><span style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Any living creature</span></di=
v>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Rune: </span></i><span style=3D"=
FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Over heart of target</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Effects: </span></i><span style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">The Adept first paints The Run=
e of Healing</span></div>


<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><span style=3D"FONT-FAM=
ILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">over the heart of the target. At any time =
within</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><span style=3D"FONT-FAM=
ILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">twice rank hours the adept activates the R=
une</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><span style=3D"FONT-FAM=
ILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">within range. The rune will heal the targe=
t 3 endurance</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><span style=3D"FONT-FAM=
ILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">damage per pulse for (Rank + 2) pulses the=
n</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:115%;FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8p=
t">fades.</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:115%;FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8p=
t">=C2=A0</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><b><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:Arial,Bold;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Rune of Willow Healing (S-9)</span></b></d=
iv>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Range: </span></i><span style=3D=
"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">15 feet + 15 / Rank</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Duration: </span></i><span style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Special</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Experience Multiple: </span></i>=
<span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">450</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Base Chance: </span></i><span st=
yle=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">35%</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Resist: </span></i><span style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Passive</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Target: </span></i><span style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Any living creature</span></di=
v>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Rune: </span></i><span style=3D"=
FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Over heart of target</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Effects: </span></i><span style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">The Adept first paints The Run=
e of Healing</span></div>


<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><span style=3D"FONT-FAM=
ILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">over the heart of the target. At any time =
within</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><span style=3D"FONT-FAM=
ILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">twice rank hours the adept activates the R=
une <br clear=3D"none"></span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><span style=3D"FONT-FAM=
ILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">(on a single target) within range by using=
 a magical <br clear=3D"none"></span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><span style=3D"FONT-FAM=
ILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">pass action . <br clear=3D"none"></span></=
div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><span style=3D"FONT-FAM=
ILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">The rune will heal the target 3 endurance<=
/span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><span style=3D"FONT-FAM=
ILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">damage per pulse for (Rank + 2) pulses the=
n</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:115%;FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8p=
t">fades.</span></div><br clear=3D"none"></div><br clear=3D"none"></blockqu=
ote></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br clear=3D"none"></div><br clear=
=3D"none">

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FromJulia McSpadden
DateMon, 2 Jun 2014 14:55:05 +1200
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There is already a competing spell which triggers on damage. As was intended
On 2 Jun 2014 12:05, "Kelsie McArthur" <kelsiemca@gmail.com> wrote:

> So the simple answer is that it is not just a clarification so it doesn't
> go in this months rulebook.
>
> If rewriting is desirable it needs to go through "the process" and be
> voted on.
>
> K
>
> PS I think it should trigger on endurance damage to an individual target.
>
>
> On 2 June 2014 10:25, Bernard Hoggins <nevyn0ad@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm wondering how many GM's actually run it that way, as every single GM
>> I've seen run it has run it as a pass action activation that the mage must
>> be inside range for.  Do any of the other rune mages experience it played
>> as a free action?  As it's not something I've experienced so the
>> clarification exactly matches the way I've seen it played since the rune
>> college was rewritten.
>>
>> Bernard
>> nevyn0ad@yahoo.co.uk
>>
>>   ------------------------------
>>  *From:* Jim Arona <jim.arona@gmail.com>
>> *To:* dq@dq.sf.org.nz
>> *Sent:* Monday, 2 June 2014 10:20 AM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [dq] DQ rule book 2014
>>
>> It's not trivial, it's a significant change, it will have an impact on
>> how the combat is run where Rune mages are involved. It's not a bad thing,
>> it *is* something that needs to be discussed.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2 June 2014 02:15, Ian Wood <dawnhaven@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>>
>>   well given that the rule book does not and never has included the term
>> 'free action' then any such 'run time' decision is up the GM.
>>
>> Consistency is the benchmark of any good rule set, so no discussion is
>> required on this trivial clarification of how the spell works within the
>> current rules.
>>
>> Ian
>>
>>
>>    *From:* Jim Arona <jim.arona@gmail.com>
>> *To:* dq@dq.sf.org.nz
>> *Sent:* Sunday, 1 June 2014 7:41 PM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [dq] DQ rule book 2014
>>
>>   The change will have a significant effect on game runtime, it is not
>> at all trivial. Other DMs have been allowing activation by Free Action.
>> Under the current write up, individual DMs may require a Pass Action or
>> what have you and in that case it would not require any kind of
>> conversation at all. Because Kelsey's version imposes an interpretation
>> however sensible and valid, then this *requires* discussion.
>> Otherwise, the ruleset is being changed by whoever edits the rulebook and
>> fuck that for a game of soldiers.
>>
>>  On 1 June 2014 18:49, Ian Wood <dawnhaven@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I vote it can be improved as a rule clarification.
>>
>> It is a trivial clarification and does not involve a rule change as i
>> would not allow a free action to activate it.
>>
>> I vote 'yay', make the change.
>>
>> Anyway, it is a stupid write up:
>>  - I first read that the adept needed a long brush, or chisel, to scribe
>> the rune from 165 feet, but what the hell.
>>
>>  - I would prefer the rune to be automatically activated if the target
>> gets to zero EN, and for the target to be able to activate it.
>>
>>  - You can only ever have one on you for your entire life, as it never
>> dissapates. Duration 'special'. Spell effects do not specify duration. Even
>> if used, the rune fades, nothing about the spell dissipating.
>>
>>  - Can the adept have several going at the same time? I would say no, or
>> at least the activating part must stack so the adept can only activate in
>> the order they are cast.
>>
>> All up an appalling spell that is open to abuse by the GM. Excellent :)
>>
>> Any rune mages who wish their spell updated to something like the
>> following should come on one of my adventures:
>>
>> Duration "Immediate"
>> Range: "Touch, 1 foot per rank over 10"
>> Effect: "the Adept creates a magical rune of healing over the heart of
>> the target..
>> The rune may be activated by the adept, if the target is within 15
>> feet/rank, or by the target.
>>  An alternative form restricts the activation to only when the target
>> gets to negative EN.
>>  The rune dissipates after blah hours of being cast or yadda pulses
>> after being activated.
>>  Does not stack or queue. A nice GM may allow both forms to be cast once
>> on the same target.
>>  Cannot receive additional magical healings in the same pulse as the
>> rune is active."
>>
>> Dont ask me to define 'blah' as that requires philosophy.
>> 'nice' = gullible
>>
>> Ian
>>
>>     *From:* Jim Arona <jim.arona@gmail..com>
>> *To:* dq@dq.sf.org.nz
>> *Sent:* Sunday, 1 June 2014 6:04 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [dq] DQ rule book 2014
>>
>>  This can't be resolved by a rule clarification. This is, regardless of
>> the author's intention, a rule change.
>> I'm not sure what I think about it, but it will make player characters
>> less resilient, which may be a good thing.
>>
>>
>> On 1 June 2014 17:23, Kelsie McArthur <kelsiemca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Opinions: Is this a correct reading by Chris? Original intent of writer?
>>
>> suggested change to a rune college spell wording
>>
>>
>> *Rune of Willow Healing (S-9)*
>> *Range: *15 feet + 15 / Rank
>> *Duration: *Special
>> *Experience Multiple: *450
>> *Base Chance: *35%
>> *Resist: *Passive
>> *Target: *Any living creature
>> *Rune: *Over heart of target
>> *Effects: *The Adept first paints The Rune of Healing
>> over the heart of the target. At any time within
>> twice rank hours the adept activates the Rune
>> within range. The rune will heal the target 3 endurance
>> damage per pulse for (Rank + 2) pulses then
>> fades.
>>
>> *Rune of Willow Healing (S-9)*
>> *Range: *15 feet + 15 / Rank
>> *Duration: *Special
>> *Experience Multiple: *450
>> *Base Chance: *35%
>> *Resist: *Passive
>> *Target: *Any living creature
>> *Rune: *Over heart of target
>> *Effects: *The Adept first paints The Rune of Healing
>> over the heart of the target. At any time within
>> twice rank hours the adept activates the Rune
>> (on a single target) within range by using a magical
>> pass action .
>> The rune will heal the target 3 endurance
>> damage per pulse for (Rank + 2) pulses then
>> fades.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

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<p dir=3D"ltr">There is already a competing spell which triggers on damage.=
 As was intended</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 2 Jun 2014 12:05, &quot;Kelsie McArthur&quot;=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kelsiemca@gmail.com">kelsiemca@gmail.com</a>&gt; wro=
te:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>So the simple answer is that it is not just a clarifi=
cation so it doesn&#39;t go in this months rulebook.<br><br></div><div>If r=
ewriting is desirable it needs to go through &quot;the process&quot; and be=
 voted on.<br>

<br></div><div>K<br><br></div><div>PS I think it should trigger on enduranc=
e damage to an individual target.<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"=
><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 2 June 2014 10:25, Bernard Hoggins <=
span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nevyn0ad@yahoo.co.uk" target=3D"_bla=
nk">nevyn0ad@yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"color:#000;background-col=
or:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Gra=
nde,Sans-Serif;font-size:8pt">

<div><span><br>I&#39;m wondering how many GM&#39;s actually run it that way=
, as every single GM I&#39;ve seen run it has run it as a pass action activ=
ation that the mage must be inside range for.=C2=A0 Do any of the other run=
e mages experience it played as a free action?=C2=A0 As it&#39;s not someth=
ing I&#39;ve experienced so the clarification exactly matches the way I&#39=
;ve seen it played since the rune college was rewritten.</span></div>

<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:10.6667px;font-family:HelveticaNeu=
e,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,Sans-Serif;background-color:=
transparent;font-style:normal"><br><span></span></div><div>Bernard <br></di=
v>

<div><a href=3D"mailto:nevyn0ad@yahoo.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">nevyn0ad@yah=
oo.co.uk</a><br></div><div><br></div>  <div style=3D"font-family:HelveticaN=
eue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,Sans-Serif;font-size:8pt">=
 <div style=3D"font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:1=
2pt">

 <div dir=3D"ltr"> <hr size=3D"1">  <font face=3D"Arial"><div> <b><span sty=
le=3D"font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Jim Arona &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ji=
m.arona@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jim.arona@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br> <b><sp=
an style=3D"font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href=3D"mailto:dq@dq.sf.org=
.nz" target=3D"_blank">dq@dq.sf.org.nz</a> <br>

 </div><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, 2 June =
2014 10:20 AM<div><div><br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject:</s=
pan></b> Re: [dq] DQ rule book 2014<br> </div></div></font> </div>
<div><div> <div><br><div><div><font face=3D"georgia,serif">It&#39;s not tri=
vial, it&#39;s a significant change, it will have an impact on how the=C2=
=A0combat is run where Rune mages are involved. It&#39;s not a bad thing, i=
t <b>is</b> something that needs to be discussed.<br clear=3D"none">


</font><br clear=3D"none">
<div><br><br></div><div><div>On 2 June 2014 02:15, Ian Wood <span dir=3D"lt=
r">&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:dawnhaven@xtra.co.=
nz" target=3D"_blank">dawnhaven@xtra.co.nz</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br clear=
=3D"none">


<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PA=
DDING-LEFT:1ex">
<div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:#fff;FONT-FAMILY:garamond,new york,times,ser=
if;COLOR:#000;FONT-SIZE:12pt">
<div><span></span></div>
<div>well given that the rule book does not and never has included the term=
 &#39;free action&#39; then any such &#39;run time&#39; decision is up the =
GM.</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div>Consistency is the benchmark of any good rule set, so no discussion is=
 required on this trivial clarification of how the spell works within the c=
urrent rules.</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div>Ian</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid;MARGIN-TOP:5px;PA=
DDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px">
<div style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:garamond,new york,times,serif;FONT-SIZE:12pt">
<div style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:times new roman,new york,times,serif;FONT-SIZE:12=
pt">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"BORDER-BOTTOM:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,=
204,204) 1px solid;PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;LINE-HEIGHT:0;MARGIN:5px 0px;MIN-HEIG=
HT:0px;PADDING-LEFT:0px;PADDING-RIGHT:0px;FONT-SIZE:0px;BORDER-TOP:rgb(204,=
204,204) 1px solid;BORDER-RIGHT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;PADDING-TOP:0px"=
>


</div><font face=3D"Arial"><b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:bold">From:</span>=
</b> Jim Arona &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:jim.ar=
ona@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jim.arona@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"no=
ne"><b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:bold">To:</span></b> <a rel=3D"nofollow" =
shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:dq@dq.sf.org.nz" target=3D"_blank">dq@dq.sf.o=
rg.nz</a> <br clear=3D"none">


<b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, 1 June 2014 7:=
41 PM=20
</font><div><br clear=3D"none"><b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Subject:=
</span></b> Re: [dq] DQ rule book 2014<br clear=3D"none"></div></div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div><font face=3D"georgia,serif">The change will have a significant effect=
 on game runtime, it is not at all trivial. Other DMs have been allowing ac=
tivation by Free Action. Under the current write up, individual DMs may req=
uire a Pass Action or what have you and in that case it would not require a=
ny kind of conversation at all. Because Kelsey&#39;s version imposes an int=
erpretation however sensible and valid, then this <b>requires</b> discussio=
n.</font></div>



<div><font face=3D"Georgia">Otherwise, the ruleset is being changed by whoe=
ver edits the rulebook and fuck that for a game of soldiers.</font></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div></div>
<div>
<div>
<div>On 1 June 2014 18:49, Ian Wood <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollo=
w" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:dawnhaven@xtra.co.nz" target=3D"_blank">da=
wnhaven@xtra.co.nz</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div></div>
<div>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex">
<div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:rgb(255,255,255);FONT-FAMILY:garamond,new yo=
rk,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:12pt">
<div><br clear=3D"none">I vote it can be improved as a rule clarification.<=
br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">It is a trivial clarification and does=
 not involve a rule change as i would not allow a free action to activate i=
t.<br clear=3D"none">


<br clear=3D"none">I vote &#39;yay&#39;, make the change.<br clear=3D"none"=
><br clear=3D"none">Anyway, it is a stupid write up:<br clear=3D"none">=C2=
=A0- I first read that the adept needed a long brush, or chisel, to scribe =
the rune from 165 feet, but what the hell.<br clear=3D"none">


<br clear=3D"none">=C2=A0- I would prefer the rune to be automatically acti=
vated if the target gets to zero EN, and for the target to be able to activ=
ate it.<br clear=3D"none">
<div><br clear=3D"none"><span></span></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px"><span>=C2=A0- =
You can only ever have one on you for your entire life, as it never dissapa=
tes. Duration &#39;special&#39;. Spell effects do not specify duration. Eve=
n if used, the rune fades, nothing about the spell dissipating.</span></div=
>



<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px"><br clear=3D"n=
one"><span></span></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px"><span>=C2=A0- =
Can the adept have several going at the same time? I would say no, or at le=
ast the activating part must stack so the adept can only activate in the or=
der they are cast.</span></div>



<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px"><br clear=3D"n=
one"><span></span></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px"><span>All up a=
n appalling spell that is open to abuse by the GM. Excellent :)<br clear=3D=
"none">


</span></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px"><br clear=3D"n=
one"><span></span></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px">Any rune mages=
 who wish their spell updated to something like the following should come o=
n one of my adventures:<br clear=3D"none">


<span></span></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px"><span><br clea=
r=3D"none"></span></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px">Duration &quot=
;Immediate&quot; <br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px">Range: &quot;T=
ouch, 1 foot per rank over 10&quot;<br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px">Effect: &quot;=
the Adept creates a magical rune of healing over the heart of the target.. =
</div>



<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px">The rune may b=
e activated by the adept, if the target is within 15 feet/rank, or by the t=
arget.<br clear=3D"none">


</div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px">An alternative=
 form restricts the activation to only when the target gets to negative EN.=
<br clear=3D"none">


</div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px">The rune dissi=
pates after blah hours of being cast or yadda pulses after being activated.=
<br clear=3D"none">


</div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px">Does not stack=
 or queue. A nice GM may allow both forms to be cast once on the same targe=
t.<br clear=3D"none">


</div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px">Cannot receive=
 additional magical healings in the same pulse as the rune is active.&quot;=
<br clear=3D"none">


</div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px"><br clear=3D"n=
one"></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px">Dont ask me to=
 define &#39;blah&#39; as that requires philosophy.</div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px">&#39;nice&#39;=
 =3D gullible</div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px"><br clear=3D"n=
one"></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px">Ian<br clear=
=3D"none"></div></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:ga=
ramond,new york,times,serif;COLOR:rgb(0,0,0);FONT-SIZE:16px"><br clear=3D"n=
one">
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DDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px">
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<div style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:times new roman,new york,times,serif;FONT-SIZE:12=
pt">
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204,204) 1px solid;PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;LINE-HEIGHT:0;MARGIN:5px 0px;MIN-HEIG=
HT:0px;PADDING-LEFT:0px;PADDING-RIGHT:0px;FONT-SIZE:0px;BORDER-TOP:rgb(204,=
204,204) 1px solid;BORDER-RIGHT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;PADDING-TOP:0px"=
>


</div><font face=3D"Arial"><b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:bold">From:</span>=
</b> Jim Arona &lt;jim.arona@gmail..com&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b><span styl=
e=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:bold">To:</span></b> <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" hr=
ef=3D"mailto:dq@dq.sf.org.nz" target=3D"_blank">dq@dq.sf.org.nz</a> <br cle=
ar=3D"none">


<b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, 1 June 2014 6:=
04 PM<br clear=3D"none"><b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Subject:</span>=
</b> Re: [dq] DQ rule book 2014<br clear=3D"none"></font></div>
<div>
<div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
<div>
<div><font face=3D"georgia,serif">This can&#39;t be resolved by a rule clar=
ification. This is, regardless of the author&#39;s intention, a rule change=
.<br clear=3D"none"></font>I&#39;m not sure what I think about it, but it w=
ill make player characters less resilient, which may be a good thing.</div>



<div><br clear=3D"none">=C2=A0</div>
<div>On 1 June 2014 17:23, Kelsie McArthur <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"=
nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:kelsiemca@gmail.com" target=3D"_bla=
nk">kelsiemca@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Opinions: Is this a correct reading by Chris? Original int=
ent of writer?<br clear=3D"none">
<div><br clear=3D"none">suggested change to a rune college spell wording<br=
 clear=3D"none">
<div>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><b><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:Arial,Bold;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Rune of Willow Healing (S-9)</span></b></d=
iv>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Range: </span></i><span style=3D=
"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">15 feet + 15 / Rank</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Duration: </span></i><span style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Special</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Experience Multiple: </span></i>=
<span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">450</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Base Chance: </span></i><span st=
yle=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">35%</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Resist: </span></i><span style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Passive</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Target: </span></i><span style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Any living creature</span></di=
v>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Rune: </span></i><span style=3D"=
FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Over heart of target</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Effects: </span></i><span style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">The Adept first paints The Run=
e of Healing</span></div>



<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><span style=3D"FONT-FAM=
ILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">over the heart of the target. At any time =
within</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><span style=3D"FONT-FAM=
ILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">twice rank hours the adept activates the R=
une</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><span style=3D"FONT-FAM=
ILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">within range. The rune will heal the targe=
t 3 endurance</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><span style=3D"FONT-FAM=
ILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">damage per pulse for (Rank + 2) pulses the=
n</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:115%;FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8p=
t">fades.</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:115%;FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8p=
t">=C2=A0</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><b><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:Arial,Bold;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Rune of Willow Healing (S-9)</span></b></d=
iv>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Range: </span></i><span style=3D=
"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">15 feet + 15 / Rank</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Duration: </span></i><span style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Special</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Experience Multiple: </span></i>=
<span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">450</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Base Chance: </span></i><span st=
yle=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">35%</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Resist: </span></i><span style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Passive</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Target: </span></i><span style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Any living creature</span></di=
v>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Rune: </span></i><span style=3D"=
FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Over heart of target</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><i><span style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY:TimesNewRoman,Italic;FONT-SIZE:8pt">Effects: </span></i><span style=
=3D"FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">The Adept first paints The Run=
e of Healing</span></div>



<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><span style=3D"FONT-FAM=
ILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">over the heart of the target. At any time =
within</span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><span style=3D"FONT-FAM=
ILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">twice rank hours the adept activates the R=
une <br clear=3D"none"></span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><span style=3D"FONT-FAM=
ILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">(on a single target) within range by using=
 a magical <br clear=3D"none"></span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><span style=3D"FONT-FAM=
ILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">pass action . <br clear=3D"none"></span></=
div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><span style=3D"FONT-FAM=
ILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">The rune will heal the target 3 endurance<=
/span></div>
<div style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:normal;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt"><span style=3D"FONT-FAM=
ILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8pt">damage per pulse for (Rank + 2) pulses the=
n</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT:115%;FONT-FAMILY:TimesNewRoman;FONT-SIZE:8p=
t">fades.</span></div><br clear=3D"none"></div><br clear=3D"none"></blockqu=
ote></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br clear=3D"none"></div><br clear=
=3D"none">


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