SubjectRe: [dq] Future Pragmatism
FromJonathan Bean
DateTue, 26 Jan 2016 10:33:10 +1300
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Hi Stephen,

What have the subs been for 2015-2016 and what do you expect them to be for
2016-2017?

How much was the hall hire for the last year?
Are you expecting it to change?
How much is the hall hire expected to be for the coming year?

Kind regards

Jono



On 25 January 2016 at 17:29, Stephen Martin <stephenm@aklnz.net> wrote:

> Our club AGM is coming up in March and the budget and fees for next year
> are due to be set.
> So it seems a good time to consider our biggest club expenses which are
> the Hall Bookings and
> printing the Seagate Times.
>
> We had 3 games out last season and barely made 4 this season, most of
> which were organised
> outside of the guild meeting. Our attendance at guild meetings is
> dwindling.
>
> Are they still relevant and desirable as they are?
> Do we drop them all together, reduce to 6-monthly, annual?
> Adventures can still continue on a quarterly basis, the organisation of
> them becoming
> primarily electronic.
> Without needing to organise games, the focus of the meetings could change
> to being primarily
> social, the game-related story telling can be less formal.
> NB We still need to have an AGM in person to meet the requirements of
> being a registered society.
>
> And if we're not meeting in person, there's not much point in having
> printed distribution of
> the SGT.
> Saving printing costs and allowing a little more editorial freedom without
> print-friendly
> restrictions.
>
>
> We need to decide on the budget and fees at the beginning of March. But
> thought I would raise
> this now with plenty of time for it to be discussed.
>
> Cheers, Stephen.
>
>
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en for 2015-2016 and what do you expect them to be for 2016-2017?<div><br><=
/div><div>How much was the hall hire for the last year?</div><div>Are you e=
xpecting it to change?</div><div>How much is the hall hire expected to be f=
or the coming year?<br></div><div><br></div><div>Kind regards</div><div><br=
></div><div>Jono</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gma=
il_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 25 January 2016 at 17:29, Steph=
en Martin <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:stephenm@aklnz.net" targe=
t=3D"_blank">stephenm@aklnz.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">Our club AGM is coming up in March and the budget and fees fo=
r next year are due to be set.<br>
So it seems a good time to consider our biggest club expenses which are the=
 Hall Bookings and<br>
printing the Seagate Times.<br>
<br>
We had 3 games out last season and barely made 4 this season, most of which=
 were organised<br>
outside of the guild meeting. Our attendance at guild meetings is dwindling=
.<br>
<br>
Are they still relevant and desirable as they are?<br>
Do we drop them all together, reduce to 6-monthly, annual?<br>
Adventures can still continue on a quarterly basis, the organisation of the=
m becoming<br>
primarily electronic.<br>
Without needing to organise games, the focus of the meetings could change t=
o being primarily<br>
social, the game-related story telling can be less formal.<br>
NB We still need to have an AGM in person to meet the requirements of being=
 a registered society.<br>
<br>
And if we&#39;re not meeting in person, there&#39;s not much point in havin=
g printed distribution of<br>
the SGT.<br>
Saving printing costs and allowing a little more editorial freedom without =
print-friendly<br>
restrictions.<br>
<br>
<br>
We need to decide on the budget and fees at the beginning of March. But tho=
ught I would raise<br>
this now with plenty of time for it to be discussed.<br>
<br>
Cheers, Stephen.<br>
<br>
<br>
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SubjectRe: [dq] Future Pragmatism
FromJulia McSpadden
DateTue, 26 Jan 2016 11:08:32 +1300
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Hi All

I think that the meetings are important events for keeping the club
together and we should continue to have four meetings in some form or
another



McDonalds has free meeting rooms - there are probably nicer community cafes
with rabbit warren like rooms, which might also suffice.
there is a little bit of balancing free, against quiet and privacy

after the last meeting it occurs to me that two meetings a year can easily
be in a smallish community park, weather permitting

I agree that we probably don't need to spend much time on organising games
as we have a perfectly good on line tool which works well

Jules

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Jonathan Bean <jonobean@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Stephen,
>
> What have the subs been for 2015-2016 and what do you expect them to be
> for 2016-2017?
>
> How much was the hall hire for the last year?
> Are you expecting it to change?
> How much is the hall hire expected to be for the coming year?
>
> Kind regards
>
> Jono
>
>
>
> On 25 January 2016 at 17:29, Stephen Martin <stephenm@aklnz.net> wrote:
>
>> Our club AGM is coming up in March and the budget and fees for next year
>> are due to be set.
>> So it seems a good time to consider our biggest club expenses which are
>> the Hall Bookings and
>> printing the Seagate Times.
>>
>> We had 3 games out last season and barely made 4 this season, most of
>> which were organised
>> outside of the guild meeting. Our attendance at guild meetings is
>> dwindling.
>>
>> Are they still relevant and desirable as they are?
>> Do we drop them all together, reduce to 6-monthly, annual?
>> Adventures can still continue on a quarterly basis, the organisation of
>> them becoming
>> primarily electronic.
>> Without needing to organise games, the focus of the meetings could change
>> to being primarily
>> social, the game-related story telling can be less formal.
>> NB We still need to have an AGM in person to meet the requirements of
>> being a registered society.
>>
>> And if we're not meeting in person, there's not much point in having
>> printed distribution of
>> the SGT.
>> Saving printing costs and allowing a little more editorial freedom
>> without print-friendly
>> restrictions.
>>
>>
>> We need to decide on the budget and fees at the beginning of March. But
>> thought I would raise
>> this now with plenty of time for it to be discussed.
>>
>> Cheers, Stephen.
>>
>>
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>>
>
>
>
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> Kind regards,
>
> Jonathan Bean
> P: +64 9 378 6635
> M: +64 21 917 173
> G: jonobean@gmail.com
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi All<div><br></div><div>I think that the meetings are im=
portant events for keeping the club together and we should continue to have=
 four meetings in some form or another</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><=
div><br></div><div>McDonalds has free meeting rooms - there are probably ni=
cer community cafes with rabbit warren like rooms, which might also suffice=
.</div><div>there is a little bit of balancing free, against quiet and priv=
acy</div><div><br></div><div>after the last meeting it occurs to me that tw=
o meetings a year can easily be in a smallish community park, weather permi=
tting</div><div><br></div><div>I agree that we probably don&#39;t need to s=
pend much time on organising games as we have a perfectly good on line tool=
 which works well</div><div><br></div><div>Jules</div></div><div class=3D"g=
mail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 10:33 AM=
, Jonathan Bean <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jonobean@gmail.com"=
 target=3D"_blank">jonobean@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid=
;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi Stephen,</div><div><br></div>Wh=
at have the subs been for 2015-2016 and what do you expect them to be for 2=
016-2017?<div><br></div><div>How much was the hall hire for the last year?<=
/div><div>Are you expecting it to change?</div><div>How much is the hall hi=
re expected to be for the coming year?<br></div><div><br></div><div>Kind re=
gards</div><div><br></div><div>Jono</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div><div class=3D"h5"><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">On 25 January 2016 at 17:29, Stephen Martin <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:stephenm@aklnz.net" target=3D"_blank">stephenm@aklnz.net</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Our club AGM is comi=
ng up in March and the budget and fees for next year are due to be set.<br>
So it seems a good time to consider our biggest club expenses which are the=
 Hall Bookings and<br>
printing the Seagate Times.<br>
<br>
We had 3 games out last season and barely made 4 this season, most of which=
 were organised<br>
outside of the guild meeting. Our attendance at guild meetings is dwindling=
.<br>
<br>
Are they still relevant and desirable as they are?<br>
Do we drop them all together, reduce to 6-monthly, annual?<br>
Adventures can still continue on a quarterly basis, the organisation of the=
m becoming<br>
primarily electronic.<br>
Without needing to organise games, the focus of the meetings could change t=
o being primarily<br>
social, the game-related story telling can be less formal.<br>
NB We still need to have an AGM in person to meet the requirements of being=
 a registered society.<br>
<br>
And if we&#39;re not meeting in person, there&#39;s not much point in havin=
g printed distribution of<br>
the SGT.<br>
Saving printing costs and allowing a little more editorial freedom without =
print-friendly<br>
restrictions.<br>
<br>
<br>
We need to decide on the budget and fees at the beginning of March. But tho=
ught I would raise<br>
this now with plenty of time for it to be discussed.<br>
<br>
Cheers, Stephen.<br>
<br>
<br>
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SubjectRe: [dq] Future Pragmatism
FromStephen Martin
DateTue, 26 Jan 2016 12:02:23 +1300
Halls used to be $28 per meeting, now more like $40-50.

As per http://www.dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?title=Guild_Finances
Current Membership Fee
$15 per year (March 2015 - Feb 2016) or $20 for family membership (but only 1 printed copy of
SGT)

Haven't worked out subs for next year yet. Probably need to go up to $20 if we continue with
hall hire, could drop to 10 or maybe 5 if we stop hiring halls and printing SGT.
Depends a lot on how many paid members we expect to get, SGT is easy as it's a per person cost
but halls and web costs are independent of number of members.

I haven't recently reconciled the account with the wiki list, there may be one or two extras
than the 20 paid members currently listed for this year.
http://www.dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?title=Club_Members


On Tue, January 26, 2016 10:33 am, Jonathan Bean wrote:
> Hi Stephen,
>
> What have the subs been for 2015-2016 and what do you expect them to be for
> 2016-2017?
>
> How much was the hall hire for the last year?
> Are you expecting it to change?
> How much is the hall hire expected to be for the coming year?
>
> Kind regards
>
> Jono
>
>
>
> On 25 January 2016 at 17:29, Stephen Martin <stephenm@aklnz.net> wrote:
>
>> Our club AGM is coming up in March and the budget and fees for next year
>> are due to be set.
>> So it seems a good time to consider our biggest club expenses which are
>> the Hall Bookings and
>> printing the Seagate Times.
>>
>> We had 3 games out last season and barely made 4 this season, most of
>> which were organised
>> outside of the guild meeting. Our attendance at guild meetings is
>> dwindling.
>>
>> Are they still relevant and desirable as they are?
>> Do we drop them all together, reduce to 6-monthly, annual?
>> Adventures can still continue on a quarterly basis, the organisation of
>> them becoming
>> primarily electronic.
>> Without needing to organise games, the focus of the meetings could change
>> to being primarily
>> social, the game-related story telling can be less formal.
>> NB We still need to have an AGM in person to meet the requirements of
>> being a registered society.
>>
>> And if we're not meeting in person, there's not much point in having
>> printed distribution of
>> the SGT.
>> Saving printing costs and allowing a little more editorial freedom without
>> print-friendly
>> restrictions.
>>
>>
>> We need to decide on the budget and fees at the beginning of March. But
>> thought I would raise
>> this now with plenty of time for it to be discussed.
>>
>> Cheers, Stephen.
>>
>>
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>>
>
>
>
> --
> Kind regards,
>
> Jonathan Bean
> P: +64 9 378 6635
> M: +64 21 917 173
> G: jonobean@gmail.com
>


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SubjectRe: [dq] Future Pragmatism
FromJulia McSpadden
DateTue, 26 Jan 2016 14:34:47 +1300
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Meeting Rooms

We have 2 meeting rooms available. These are free to use as long as your
order refreshments from the cafe. An online calendar will feature here soon
so you can book the rooms ahead of time. In the meantime please phone Rebar
cafe +64 9 525 9367 to enquire.


[image: Rebar Cafe - meeting room 1]
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Rebar meeting room 1


rebar cafe free rooms

Welcome to ohSO!
Open 7 Days
7am-3pm Monday-Friday
8am-3pm Saturday-Sunday

Slightly off the beaten track and away from the hustle and bustle of
Ponsonby and Grey Lynn, you will find ohSO, a local favourite known for
great food, friendly service, fantastic Allpress coffee and free wifi!
Everything you need at your local cafe.

Our spacious cafe offers an outdoor deck area to enjoy a coffee in the sun,
as well as a quiet area in the rear dining room for meetings.   We've also
just had a make-over so the ambiance is even better than ever!

ohSO is licensed, and is a great place for a business meeting, a private
function or a catch up with friends.  Enjoy Asahi or Somersby Cider on tap!


ohSO free meeting room


there are probably plenty more cafes with private areas and I think we
drink enough coffee for those that welcome groups to want us

Jules

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Stephen Martin <stephenm@aklnz.net> wrote:

> Halls used to be $28 per meeting, now more like $40-50.
>
> As per http://www.dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?titleGuild_Finances
> Current Membership Fee
> $15 per year (March 2015 - Feb 2016) or $20 for family membership (but
> only 1 printed copy of
> SGT)
>
> Haven't worked out subs for next year yet. Probably need to go up to $20
> if we continue with
> hall hire, could drop to 10 or maybe 5 if we stop hiring halls and
> printing SGT.
> Depends a lot on how many paid members we expect to get, SGT is easy as
> it's a per person cost
> but halls and web costs are independent of number of members.
>
> I haven't recently reconciled the account with the wiki list, there may be
> one or two extras
> than the 20 paid members currently listed for this year.
> http://www.dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?titleClub_Members
>
>
> On Tue, January 26, 2016 10:33 am, Jonathan Bean wrote:
> > Hi Stephen,
> >
> > What have the subs been for 2015-2016 and what do you expect them to be
> for
> > 2016-2017?
> >
> > How much was the hall hire for the last year?
> > Are you expecting it to change?
> > How much is the hall hire expected to be for the coming year?
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Jono
> >
> >
> >
> > On 25 January 2016 at 17:29, Stephen Martin <stephenm@aklnz.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Our club AGM is coming up in March and the budget and fees for next year
> >> are due to be set.
> >> So it seems a good time to consider our biggest club expenses which are
> >> the Hall Bookings and
> >> printing the Seagate Times.
> >>
> >> We had 3 games out last season and barely made 4 this season, most of
> >> which were organised
> >> outside of the guild meeting. Our attendance at guild meetings is
> >> dwindling.
> >>
> >> Are they still relevant and desirable as they are?
> >> Do we drop them all together, reduce to 6-monthly, annual?
> >> Adventures can still continue on a quarterly basis, the organisation of
> >> them becoming
> >> primarily electronic.
> >> Without needing to organise games, the focus of the meetings could
> change
> >> to being primarily
> >> social, the game-related story telling can be less formal.
> >> NB We still need to have an AGM in person to meet the requirements of
> >> being a registered society.
> >>
> >> And if we're not meeting in person, there's not much point in having
> >> printed distribution of
> >> the SGT.
> >> Saving printing costs and allowing a little more editorial freedom
> without
> >> print-friendly
> >> restrictions.
> >>
> >>
> >> We need to decide on the budget and fees at the beginning of March. But
> >> thought I would raise
> >> this now with plenty of time for it to be discussed.
> >>
> >> Cheers, Stephen.
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >
> >
> >
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> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Jonathan Bean
> > P: +64 9 378 6635
> > M: +64 21 917 173
> > G: jonobean@gmail.com
> >
>
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i! Everything you need at your local cafe.<br><br>Our spacious cafe offers =
an outdoor deck area to enjoy a coffee in the sun, as well as a quiet area =
in the rear dining room for meetings.=C2=A0=C2=A0 We&#39;ve also just had a=
 make-over so the ambiance is even better than ever!<br><br>ohSO is license=
d, and is a great place for a business meeting, a private function or a cat=
ch up with friends.=C2=A0 Enjoy Asahi or Somersby Cider on tap!<br></div></=
td></tr></tbody></table></div></div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">=
<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">o=
hSO free meeting room</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">there are probably pl=
enty more cafes with private areas and I think we drink enough coffee for t=
hose that welcome groups to want us=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><=
br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Jules</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><=
br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Stephen Mar=
tin <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:stephenm@aklnz.net" target=3D"_=
blank">stephenm@aklnz.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-lef=
t:1ex">Halls used to be $28 per meeting, now more like $40-50.<br>
<br>
As per <a href=3D"http://www.dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?titleGuild_Finances=
" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.ph=
p?titleGuild_Finances</a><br>
Current Membership Fee<br>
$15 per year (March 2015 - Feb 2016) or $20 for family membership (but only=
 1 printed copy of<br>
SGT)<br>
<br>
Haven&#39;t worked out subs for next year yet. Probably need to go up to $2=
0 if we continue with<br>
hall hire, could drop to 10 or maybe 5 if we stop hiring halls and printing=
 SGT.<br>
Depends a lot on how many paid members we expect to get, SGT is easy as it&=
#39;s a per person cost<br>
but halls and web costs are independent of number of members.<br>
<br>
I haven&#39;t recently reconciled the account with the wiki list, there may=
 be one or two extras<br>
than the 20 paid members currently listed for this year.<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?titleClub_Members" rel=3D"=
noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?titleCl=
ub_Members</a><br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
On Tue, January 26, 2016 10:33 am, Jonathan Bean wrote:<br>
&gt; Hi Stephen,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; What have the subs been for 2015-2016 and what do you expect them to b=
e for<br>
&gt; 2016-2017?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; How much was the hall hire for the last year?<br>
&gt; Are you expecting it to change?<br>
&gt; How much is the hall hire expected to be for the coming year?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Kind regards<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Jono<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On 25 January 2016 at 17:29, Stephen Martin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:step=
henm@aklnz.net">stephenm@aklnz.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Our club AGM is coming up in March and the budget and fees for nex=
t year<br>
&gt;&gt; are due to be set.<br>
&gt;&gt; So it seems a good time to consider our biggest club expenses whic=
h are<br>
&gt;&gt; the Hall Bookings and<br>
&gt;&gt; printing the Seagate Times.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; We had 3 games out last season and barely made 4 this season, most=
 of<br>
&gt;&gt; which were organised<br>
&gt;&gt; outside of the guild meeting. Our attendance at guild meetings is<=
br>
&gt;&gt; dwindling.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Are they still relevant and desirable as they are?<br>
&gt;&gt; Do we drop them all together, reduce to 6-monthly, annual?<br>
&gt;&gt; Adventures can still continue on a quarterly basis, the organisati=
on of<br>
&gt;&gt; them becoming<br>
&gt;&gt; primarily electronic.<br>
&gt;&gt; Without needing to organise games, the focus of the meetings could=
 change<br>
&gt;&gt; to being primarily<br>
&gt;&gt; social, the game-related story telling can be less formal.<br>
&gt;&gt; NB We still need to have an AGM in person to meet the requirements=
 of<br>
&gt;&gt; being a registered society.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; And if we&#39;re not meeting in person, there&#39;s not much point=
 in having<br>
&gt;&gt; printed distribution of<br>
&gt;&gt; the SGT.<br>
&gt;&gt; Saving printing costs and allowing a little more editorial freedom=
 without<br>
&gt;&gt; print-friendly<br>
&gt;&gt; restrictions.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; We need to decide on the budget and fees at the beginning of March=
. But<br>
&gt;&gt; thought I would raise<br>
&gt;&gt; this now with plenty of time for it to be discussed.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Cheers, Stephen.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:dq-request@dq.sf=
.org.nz">dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz</a> --<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; Kind regards,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Jonathan Bean<br>
&gt; P: <a href=3D"tel:%2B64%209%20378%206635" value=3D"+6493786635">+64 9 =
378 6635</a><br>
&gt; M: <a href=3D"tel:%2B64%2021%20917%20173" value=3D"+6421917173">+64 21=
 917 173</a><br>
&gt; G: <a href=3D"mailto:jonobean@gmail.com">jonobean@gmail.com</a><br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
<br>
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SubjectRe: [dq] Future Pragmatism
FromStephen Martin
DateTue, 26 Jan 2016 15:23:15 +1300
Most meeting rooms like this would be fine for 6-8 or even 10 people but not many comfortably
cater for 20-30. At that stage they consider it a function and won't be keen on individual
ordering.

Guild meetings have been at 1pm on the second Sunday of every 3rd month for 20+ years. But
perhaps we could consider a different time of day (it's ok, I'm going to wash my mouth out
with soap now).

We might get some traction with booking out a cafe for a couple of hours later in the
afternoon but unless they're struggling, lunch time is peak revenue and few places will want
us sitting around chatting for several hours over a couple of coffees and meals.

We could look at mixed options, the Dec & Mar meetings could be held somewhere like Cornwall
or Pt Chev park with a social picnic/bbq theme. Cheap and family friendly but we'd need a rain
option or an alternate rain date.
The Jun & Sep mtgs later in the day at a sports club over some beers/ciders or booking out a
cafe or restaurant function room. A smorgasbord type place would probably work best so we
could migrate between tables at whim without causing chaos with serving staff.

A fixed menu or smorgasbord with a set head count and price per person is an easier sell to a
cafe/bar/restaurant but is unlikely to suit all members for the usual variety of
dietary/social/philosophical/fiscal reasons. Which is fine occasionally but is exclusive and
destructive on a regular or long term basis.

Cheers, Stephen.

On Tue, January 26, 2016 2:34 pm, Julia McSpadden wrote:
> Meeting Rooms
>
> We have 2 meeting rooms available. These are free to use as long as your
> order refreshments from the cafe. An online calendar will feature here soon
> so you can book the rooms ahead of time. In the meantime please phone Rebar
> cafe +64 9 525 9367 to enquire.
>
>
> [image: Rebar Cafe - meeting room 1]
> <http://www.rebar.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/rebar-meeting-room-1.jpg>
>
> Rebar meeting room 1
>
>
> rebar cafe free rooms
>
> Welcome to ohSO!
> Open 7 Days
> 7am-3pm Monday-Friday
> 8am-3pm Saturday-Sunday
>
> Slightly off the beaten track and away from the hustle and bustle of
> Ponsonby and Grey Lynn, you will find ohSO, a local favourite known for
> great food, friendly service, fantastic Allpress coffee and free wifi!
> Everything you need at your local cafe.
>
> Our spacious cafe offers an outdoor deck area to enjoy a coffee in the sun,
> as well as a quiet area in the rear dining room for meetings.   We've also
> just had a make-over so the ambiance is even better than ever!
>
> ohSO is licensed, and is a great place for a business meeting, a private
> function or a catch up with friends.  Enjoy Asahi or Somersby Cider on tap!
>
>
> ohSO free meeting room
>
>
> there are probably plenty more cafes with private areas and I think we
> drink enough coffee for those that welcome groups to want us
>
> Jules
>
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Stephen Martin <stephenm@aklnz.net> wrote:
>
>> Halls used to be $28 per meeting, now more like $40-50.
>>
>> As per http://www.dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?titleGuild_Finances
>> Current Membership Fee
>> $15 per year (March 2015 - Feb 2016) or $20 for family membership (but
>> only 1 printed copy of
>> SGT)
>>
>> Haven't worked out subs for next year yet. Probably need to go up to $20
>> if we continue with
>> hall hire, could drop to 10 or maybe 5 if we stop hiring halls and
>> printing SGT.
>> Depends a lot on how many paid members we expect to get, SGT is easy as
>> it's a per person cost
>> but halls and web costs are independent of number of members.
>>
>> I haven't recently reconciled the account with the wiki list, there may be
>> one or two extras
>> than the 20 paid members currently listed for this year.
>> http://www.dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?titleClub_Members
>>
>>
>> On Tue, January 26, 2016 10:33 am, Jonathan Bean wrote:
>> > Hi Stephen,
>> >
>> > What have the subs been for 2015-2016 and what do you expect them to be
>> for
>> > 2016-2017?
>> >
>> > How much was the hall hire for the last year?
>> > Are you expecting it to change?
>> > How much is the hall hire expected to be for the coming year?
>> >
>> > Kind regards
>> >
>> > Jono
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 25 January 2016 at 17:29, Stephen Martin <stephenm@aklnz.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Our club AGM is coming up in March and the budget and fees for next year
>> >> are due to be set.
>> >> So it seems a good time to consider our biggest club expenses which are
>> >> the Hall Bookings and
>> >> printing the Seagate Times.
>> >>
>> >> We had 3 games out last season and barely made 4 this season, most of
>> >> which were organised
>> >> outside of the guild meeting. Our attendance at guild meetings is
>> >> dwindling.
>> >>
>> >> Are they still relevant and desirable as they are?
>> >> Do we drop them all together, reduce to 6-monthly, annual?
>> >> Adventures can still continue on a quarterly basis, the organisation of
>> >> them becoming
>> >> primarily electronic.
>> >> Without needing to organise games, the focus of the meetings could
>> change
>> >> to being primarily
>> >> social, the game-related story telling can be less formal.
>> >> NB We still need to have an AGM in person to meet the requirements of
>> >> being a registered society.
>> >>
>> >> And if we're not meeting in person, there's not much point in having
>> >> printed distribution of
>> >> the SGT.
>> >> Saving printing costs and allowing a little more editorial freedom
>> without
>> >> print-friendly
>> >> restrictions.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> We need to decide on the budget and fees at the beginning of March. But
>> >> thought I would raise
>> >> this now with plenty of time for it to be discussed.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers, Stephen.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz --
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Kind regards,
>> >
>> > Jonathan Bean
>> > P: +64 9 378 6635
>> > M: +64 21 917 173
>> > G: jonobean@gmail.com
>> >
>>
>>
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>>
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SubjectRe: [dq] Future Pragmatism
FromJulia McSpadden
DateTue, 26 Jan 2016 15:30:22 +1300
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Do we have 30 people at a guild meeting ?  I would have thought 15 - 25 was
more relatistic

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Stephen Martin <stephenm@aklnz.net> wrote:

>
> Most meeting rooms like this would be fine for 6-8 or even 10 people but
> not many comfortably
> cater for 20-30. At that stage they consider it a function and won't be
> keen on individual
> ordering.
>
> Guild meetings have been at 1pm on the second Sunday of every 3rd month
> for 20+ years. But
> perhaps we could consider a different time of day (it's ok, I'm going to
> wash my mouth out
> with soap now).
>
> We might get some traction with booking out a cafe for a couple of hours
> later in the
> afternoon but unless they're struggling, lunch time is peak revenue and
> few places will want
> us sitting around chatting for several hours over a couple of coffees and
> meals.
>
> We could look at mixed options, the Dec & Mar meetings could be held
> somewhere like Cornwall
> or Pt Chev park with a social picnic/bbq theme. Cheap and family friendly
> but we'd need a rain
> option or an alternate rain date.
> The Jun & Sep mtgs later in the day at a sports club over some
> beers/ciders or booking out a
> cafe or restaurant function room. A smorgasbord type place would probably
> work best so we
> could migrate between tables at whim without causing chaos with serving
> staff.
>
> A fixed menu or smorgasbord with a set head count and price per person is
> an easier sell to a
> cafe/bar/restaurant but is unlikely to suit all members for the usual
> variety of
> dietary/social/philosophical/fiscal reasons. Which is fine occasionally
> but is exclusive and
> destructive on a regular or long term basis.
>
> Cheers, Stephen.
>
> On Tue, January 26, 2016 2:34 pm, Julia McSpadden wrote:
> > Meeting Rooms
> >
> > We have 2 meeting rooms available. These are free to use as long as your
> > order refreshments from the cafe. An online calendar will feature here
> soon
> > so you can book the rooms ahead of time. In the meantime please phone
> Rebar
> > cafe +64 9 525 9367 to enquire.
> >
> >
> > [image: Rebar Cafe - meeting room 1]
> > <
> http://www.rebar.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/rebar-meeting-room-1.jpg
> >
> >
> > Rebar meeting room 1
> >
> >
> > rebar cafe free rooms
> >
> > Welcome to ohSO!
> > Open 7 Days
> > 7am-3pm Monday-Friday
> > 8am-3pm Saturday-Sunday
> >
> > Slightly off the beaten track and away from the hustle and bustle of
> > Ponsonby and Grey Lynn, you will find ohSO, a local favourite known for
> > great food, friendly service, fantastic Allpress coffee and free wifi!
> > Everything you need at your local cafe.
> >
> > Our spacious cafe offers an outdoor deck area to enjoy a coffee in the
> sun,
> > as well as a quiet area in the rear dining room for meetings.   We've
> also
> > just had a make-over so the ambiance is even better than ever!
> >
> > ohSO is licensed, and is a great place for a business meeting, a private
> > function or a catch up with friends.  Enjoy Asahi or Somersby Cider on
> tap!
> >
> >
> > ohSO free meeting room
> >
> >
> > there are probably plenty more cafes with private areas and I think we
> > drink enough coffee for those that welcome groups to want us
> >
> > Jules
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Stephen Martin <stephenm@aklnz.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Halls used to be $28 per meeting, now more like $40-50.
> >>
> >> As per http://www.dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?titleGuild_Finances
> >> Current Membership Fee
> >> $15 per year (March 2015 - Feb 2016) or $20 for family membership (but
> >> only 1 printed copy of
> >> SGT)
> >>
> >> Haven't worked out subs for next year yet. Probably need to go up to $20
> >> if we continue with
> >> hall hire, could drop to 10 or maybe 5 if we stop hiring halls and
> >> printing SGT.
> >> Depends a lot on how many paid members we expect to get, SGT is easy as
> >> it's a per person cost
> >> but halls and web costs are independent of number of members.
> >>
> >> I haven't recently reconciled the account with the wiki list, there may
> be
> >> one or two extras
> >> than the 20 paid members currently listed for this year.
> >> http://www.dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?titleClub_Members
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, January 26, 2016 10:33 am, Jonathan Bean wrote:
> >> > Hi Stephen,
> >> >
> >> > What have the subs been for 2015-2016 and what do you expect them to
> be
> >> for
> >> > 2016-2017?
> >> >
> >> > How much was the hall hire for the last year?
> >> > Are you expecting it to change?
> >> > How much is the hall hire expected to be for the coming year?
> >> >
> >> > Kind regards
> >> >
> >> > Jono
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 25 January 2016 at 17:29, Stephen Martin <stephenm@aklnz.net>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Our club AGM is coming up in March and the budget and fees for next
> year
> >> >> are due to be set.
> >> >> So it seems a good time to consider our biggest club expenses which
> are
> >> >> the Hall Bookings and
> >> >> printing the Seagate Times.
> >> >>
> >> >> We had 3 games out last season and barely made 4 this season, most of
> >> >> which were organised
> >> >> outside of the guild meeting. Our attendance at guild meetings is
> >> >> dwindling.
> >> >>
> >> >> Are they still relevant and desirable as they are?
> >> >> Do we drop them all together, reduce to 6-monthly, annual?
> >> >> Adventures can still continue on a quarterly basis, the organisation
> of
> >> >> them becoming
> >> >> primarily electronic.
> >> >> Without needing to organise games, the focus of the meetings could
> >> change
> >> >> to being primarily
> >> >> social, the game-related story telling can be less formal.
> >> >> NB We still need to have an AGM in person to meet the requirements of
> >> >> being a registered society.
> >> >>
> >> >> And if we're not meeting in person, there's not much point in having
> >> >> printed distribution of
> >> >> the SGT.
> >> >> Saving printing costs and allowing a little more editorial freedom
> >> without
> >> >> print-friendly
> >> >> restrictions.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> We need to decide on the budget and fees at the beginning of March.
> But
> >> >> thought I would raise
> >> >> this now with plenty of time for it to be discussed.
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers, Stephen.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz --
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Kind regards,
> >> >
> >> > Jonathan Bean
> >> > P: +64 9 378 6635
> >> > M: +64 21 917 173
> >> > G: jonobean@gmail.com
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> -- to unsubscribe notify mailto:dq-request@dq.sf.org.nz --
> >>
> >
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Do we have 30 people at a guild meeting ?=C2=A0 I would ha=
ve thought 15 - 25 was more relatistic</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Stephen Martin =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:stephenm@aklnz.net" target=3D"_blan=
k">stephenm@aklnz.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1e=
x"><br>
Most meeting rooms like this would be fine for 6-8 or even 10 people but no=
t many comfortably<br>
cater for 20-30. At that stage they consider it a function and won&#39;t be=
 keen on individual<br>
ordering.<br>
<br>
Guild meetings have been at 1pm on the second Sunday of every 3rd month for=
 20+ years. But<br>
perhaps we could consider a different time of day (it&#39;s ok, I&#39;m goi=
ng to wash my mouth out<br>
with soap now).<br>
<br>
We might get some traction with booking out a cafe for a couple of hours la=
ter in the<br>
afternoon but unless they&#39;re struggling, lunch time is peak revenue and=
 few places will want<br>
us sitting around chatting for several hours over a couple of coffees and m=
eals.<br>
<br>
We could look at mixed options, the Dec &amp; Mar meetings could be held so=
mewhere like Cornwall<br>
or Pt Chev park with a social picnic/bbq theme. Cheap and family friendly b=
ut we&#39;d need a rain<br>
option or an alternate rain date.<br>
The Jun &amp; Sep mtgs later in the day at a sports club over some beers/ci=
ders or booking out a<br>
cafe or restaurant function room. A smorgasbord type place would probably w=
ork best so we<br>
could migrate between tables at whim without causing chaos with serving sta=
ff.<br>
<br>
A fixed menu or smorgasbord with a set head count and price per person is a=
n easier sell to a<br>
cafe/bar/restaurant but is unlikely to suit all members for the usual varie=
ty of<br>
dietary/social/philosophical/fiscal reasons. Which is fine occasionally but=
 is exclusive and<br>
destructive on a regular or long term basis.<br>
<br>
Cheers, Stephen.<br>
<span class=3D""><br>
On Tue, January 26, 2016 2:34 pm, Julia McSpadden wrote:<br>
&gt; Meeting Rooms<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; We have 2 meeting rooms available. These are free to use as long as yo=
ur<br>
&gt; order refreshments from the cafe. An online calendar will feature here=
 soon<br>
&gt; so you can book the rooms ahead of time. In the meantime please phone =
Rebar<br>
&gt; cafe <a href=3D"tel:%2B64%209%20525%209367" value=3D"+6495259367">+64 =
9 525 9367</a> to enquire.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; [image: Rebar Cafe - meeting room 1]<br>
</span>&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"http://www.rebar.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/0=
8/rebar-meeting-room-1.jpg" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www=
.rebar.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/rebar-meeting-room-1.jpg</a>&gt;<br=
>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">&gt;<br>
&gt; Rebar meeting room 1<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; rebar cafe free rooms<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Welcome to ohSO!<br>
&gt; Open 7 Days<br>
&gt; 7am-3pm Monday-Friday<br>
&gt; 8am-3pm Saturday-Sunday<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Slightly off the beaten track and away from the hustle and bustle of<b=
r>
&gt; Ponsonby and Grey Lynn, you will find ohSO, a local favourite known fo=
r<br>
&gt; great food, friendly service, fantastic Allpress coffee and free wifi!=
<br>
&gt; Everything you need at your local cafe.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Our spacious cafe offers an outdoor deck area to enjoy a coffee in the=
 sun,<br>
&gt; as well as a quiet area in the rear dining room for meetings.=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0We&#39;ve also<br>
&gt; just had a make-over so the ambiance is even better than ever!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; ohSO is licensed, and is a great place for a business meeting, a priva=
te<br>
&gt; function or a catch up with friends.=C2=A0 Enjoy Asahi or Somersby Cid=
er on tap!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; ohSO free meeting room<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; there are probably plenty more cafes with private areas and I think we=
<br>
&gt; drink enough coffee for those that welcome groups to want us<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Jules<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Stephen Martin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:stephenm@aklnz.net">stephenm@aklnz.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Halls used to be $28 per meeting, now more like $40-50.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; As per <a href=3D"http://www.dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?titleGuild=
_Finances" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.dq-nz.org/dqwiki=
/index.php?titleGuild_Finances</a><br>
&gt;&gt; Current Membership Fee<br>
&gt;&gt; $15 per year (March 2015 - Feb 2016) or $20 for family membership =
(but<br>
&gt;&gt; only 1 printed copy of<br>
&gt;&gt; SGT)<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Haven&#39;t worked out subs for next year yet. Probably need to go=
 up to $20<br>
&gt;&gt; if we continue with<br>
&gt;&gt; hall hire, could drop to 10 or maybe 5 if we stop hiring halls and=
<br>
&gt;&gt; printing SGT.<br>
&gt;&gt; Depends a lot on how many paid members we expect to get, SGT is ea=
sy as<br>
&gt;&gt; it&#39;s a per person cost<br>
&gt;&gt; but halls and web costs are independent of number of members.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I haven&#39;t recently reconciled the account with the wiki list, =
there may be<br>
&gt;&gt; one or two extras<br>
&gt;&gt; than the 20 paid members currently listed for this year.<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?titleClub_Members=
" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.ph=
p?titleClub_Members</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Tue, January 26, 2016 10:33 am, Jonathan Bean wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Hi Stephen,<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; What have the subs been for 2015-2016 and what do you expect =
them to be<br>
&gt;&gt; for<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; 2016-2017?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; How much was the hall hire for the last year?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Are you expecting it to change?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; How much is the hall hire expected to be for the coming year?=
<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Kind regards<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Jono<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; On 25 January 2016 at 17:29, Stephen Martin &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:stephenm@aklnz.net">stephenm@aklnz.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Our club AGM is coming up in March and the budget and fee=
s for next year<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; are due to be set.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; So it seems a good time to consider our biggest club expe=
nses which are<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; the Hall Bookings and<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; printing the Seagate Times.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; We had 3 games out last season and barely made 4 this sea=
son, most of<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; which were organised<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; outside of the guild meeting. Our attendance at guild mee=
tings is<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; dwindling.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Are they still relevant and desirable as they are?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Do we drop them all together, reduce to 6-monthly, annual=
?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Adventures can still continue on a quarterly basis, the o=
rganisation of<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; them becoming<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; primarily electronic.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Without needing to organise games, the focus of the meeti=
ngs could<br>
&gt;&gt; change<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; to being primarily<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; social, the game-related story telling can be less formal=
.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; NB We still need to have an AGM in person to meet the req=
uirements of<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; being a registered society.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; And if we&#39;re not meeting in person, there&#39;s not m=
uch point in having<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; printed distribution of<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; the SGT.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Saving printing costs and allowing a little more editoria=
l freedom<br>
&gt;&gt; without<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; print-friendly<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; restrictions.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; We need to decide on the budget and fees at the beginning=
 of March. But<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; thought I would raise<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; this now with plenty of time for it to be discussed.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Cheers, Stephen.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
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&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Kind regards,<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Jonathan Bean<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; P: <a href=3D"tel:%2B64%209%20378%206635" value=3D"+649378663=
5">+64 9 378 6635</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; M: <a href=3D"tel:%2B64%2021%20917%20173" value=3D"+642191717=
3">+64 21 917 173</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; G: <a href=3D"mailto:jonobean@gmail.com">jonobean@gmail.com</=
a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
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SubjectRe: [dq] Future Pragmatism
FromJulia McSpadden
DateTue, 26 Jan 2016 15:46:08 +1300
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if we have 30 ppl at the meetings then paying for a room should be easy..

Maybe a facebook page instead of the seagate times ?

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Julia McSpadden <juliamcspadden@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Do we have 30 people at a guild meeting ?  I would have thought 15 - 25
> was more relatistic
>
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Stephen Martin <stephenm@aklnz.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Most meeting rooms like this would be fine for 6-8 or even 10 people but
>> not many comfortably
>> cater for 20-30. At that stage they consider it a function and won't be
>> keen on individual
>> ordering.
>>
>> Guild meetings have been at 1pm on the second Sunday of every 3rd month
>> for 20+ years. But
>> perhaps we could consider a different time of day (it's ok, I'm going to
>> wash my mouth out
>> with soap now).
>>
>> We might get some traction with booking out a cafe for a couple of hours
>> later in the
>> afternoon but unless they're struggling, lunch time is peak revenue and
>> few places will want
>> us sitting around chatting for several hours over a couple of coffees and
>> meals.
>>
>> We could look at mixed options, the Dec & Mar meetings could be held
>> somewhere like Cornwall
>> or Pt Chev park with a social picnic/bbq theme. Cheap and family friendly
>> but we'd need a rain
>> option or an alternate rain date.
>> The Jun & Sep mtgs later in the day at a sports club over some
>> beers/ciders or booking out a
>> cafe or restaurant function room. A smorgasbord type place would probably
>> work best so we
>> could migrate between tables at whim without causing chaos with serving
>> staff.
>>
>> A fixed menu or smorgasbord with a set head count and price per person is
>> an easier sell to a
>> cafe/bar/restaurant but is unlikely to suit all members for the usual
>> variety of
>> dietary/social/philosophical/fiscal reasons. Which is fine occasionally
>> but is exclusive and
>> destructive on a regular or long term basis.
>>
>> Cheers, Stephen.
>>
>> On Tue, January 26, 2016 2:34 pm, Julia McSpadden wrote:
>> > Meeting Rooms
>> >
>> > We have 2 meeting rooms available. These are free to use as long as your
>> > order refreshments from the cafe. An online calendar will feature here
>> soon
>> > so you can book the rooms ahead of time. In the meantime please phone
>> Rebar
>> > cafe +64 9 525 9367 to enquire.
>> >
>> >
>> > [image: Rebar Cafe - meeting room 1]
>> > <
>> http://www.rebar.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/rebar-meeting-room-1.jpg
>> >
>> >
>> > Rebar meeting room 1
>> >
>> >
>> > rebar cafe free rooms
>> >
>> > Welcome to ohSO!
>> > Open 7 Days
>> > 7am-3pm Monday-Friday
>> > 8am-3pm Saturday-Sunday
>> >
>> > Slightly off the beaten track and away from the hustle and bustle of
>> > Ponsonby and Grey Lynn, you will find ohSO, a local favourite known for
>> > great food, friendly service, fantastic Allpress coffee and free wifi!
>> > Everything you need at your local cafe.
>> >
>> > Our spacious cafe offers an outdoor deck area to enjoy a coffee in the
>> sun,
>> > as well as a quiet area in the rear dining room for meetings.   We've
>> also
>> > just had a make-over so the ambiance is even better than ever!
>> >
>> > ohSO is licensed, and is a great place for a business meeting, a private
>> > function or a catch up with friends.  Enjoy Asahi or Somersby Cider on
>> tap!
>> >
>> >
>> > ohSO free meeting room
>> >
>> >
>> > there are probably plenty more cafes with private areas and I think we
>> > drink enough coffee for those that welcome groups to want us
>> >
>> > Jules
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Stephen Martin <stephenm@aklnz.net>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Halls used to be $28 per meeting, now more like $40-50.
>> >>
>> >> As per http://www.dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?titleGuild_Finances
>> >> Current Membership Fee
>> >> $15 per year (March 2015 - Feb 2016) or $20 for family membership (but
>> >> only 1 printed copy of
>> >> SGT)
>> >>
>> >> Haven't worked out subs for next year yet. Probably need to go up to
>> $20
>> >> if we continue with
>> >> hall hire, could drop to 10 or maybe 5 if we stop hiring halls and
>> >> printing SGT.
>> >> Depends a lot on how many paid members we expect to get, SGT is easy as
>> >> it's a per person cost
>> >> but halls and web costs are independent of number of members.
>> >>
>> >> I haven't recently reconciled the account with the wiki list, there
>> may be
>> >> one or two extras
>> >> than the 20 paid members currently listed for this year.
>> >> http://www.dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?titleClub_Members
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, January 26, 2016 10:33 am, Jonathan Bean wrote:
>> >> > Hi Stephen,
>> >> >
>> >> > What have the subs been for 2015-2016 and what do you expect them to
>> be
>> >> for
>> >> > 2016-2017?
>> >> >
>> >> > How much was the hall hire for the last year?
>> >> > Are you expecting it to change?
>> >> > How much is the hall hire expected to be for the coming year?
>> >> >
>> >> > Kind regards
>> >> >
>> >> > Jono
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On 25 January 2016 at 17:29, Stephen Martin <stephenm@aklnz.net>
>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Our club AGM is coming up in March and the budget and fees for next
>> year
>> >> >> are due to be set.
>> >> >> So it seems a good time to consider our biggest club expenses which
>> are
>> >> >> the Hall Bookings and
>> >> >> printing the Seagate Times.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> We had 3 games out last season and barely made 4 this season, most
>> of
>> >> >> which were organised
>> >> >> outside of the guild meeting. Our attendance at guild meetings is
>> >> >> dwindling.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Are they still relevant and desirable as they are?
>> >> >> Do we drop them all together, reduce to 6-monthly, annual?
>> >> >> Adventures can still continue on a quarterly basis, the
>> organisation of
>> >> >> them becoming
>> >> >> primarily electronic.
>> >> >> Without needing to organise games, the focus of the meetings could
>> >> change
>> >> >> to being primarily
>> >> >> social, the game-related story telling can be less formal.
>> >> >> NB We still need to have an AGM in person to meet the requirements
>> of
>> >> >> being a registered society.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> And if we're not meeting in person, there's not much point in having
>> >> >> printed distribution of
>> >> >> the SGT.
>> >> >> Saving printing costs and allowing a little more editorial freedom
>> >> without
>> >> >> print-friendly
>> >> >> restrictions.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> We need to decide on the budget and fees at the beginning of March.
>> But
>> >> >> thought I would raise
>> >> >> this now with plenty of time for it to be discussed.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Cheers, Stephen.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
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>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Kind regards,
>> >> >
>> >> > Jonathan Bean
>> >> > P: +64 9 378 6635
>> >> > M: +64 21 917 173
>> >> > G: jonobean@gmail.com
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">if we have 30 ppl at the meetings then paying for a room s=
hould be easy..<div><br></div><div>Maybe a facebook page instead of the sea=
gate times ?</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote">On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Julia McSpadden <span dir=3D"ltr">&=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:juliamcspadden@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">juliamcspa=
dden@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div=
 class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><div dir=3D"ltr">Do we have 30 people a=
t a guild meeting ?=C2=A0 I would have thought 15 - 25 was more relatistic<=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan =
26, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Stephen Martin <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:stephenm@aklnz.net" target=3D"_blank">stephenm@aklnz.net</a>&gt;</span> wr=
ote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border=
-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
Most meeting rooms like this would be fine for 6-8 or even 10 people but no=
t many comfortably<br>
cater for 20-30. At that stage they consider it a function and won&#39;t be=
 keen on individual<br>
ordering.<br>
<br>
Guild meetings have been at 1pm on the second Sunday of every 3rd month for=
 20+ years. But<br>
perhaps we could consider a different time of day (it&#39;s ok, I&#39;m goi=
ng to wash my mouth out<br>
with soap now).<br>
<br>
We might get some traction with booking out a cafe for a couple of hours la=
ter in the<br>
afternoon but unless they&#39;re struggling, lunch time is peak revenue and=
 few places will want<br>
us sitting around chatting for several hours over a couple of coffees and m=
eals.<br>
<br>
We could look at mixed options, the Dec &amp; Mar meetings could be held so=
mewhere like Cornwall<br>
or Pt Chev park with a social picnic/bbq theme. Cheap and family friendly b=
ut we&#39;d need a rain<br>
option or an alternate rain date.<br>
The Jun &amp; Sep mtgs later in the day at a sports club over some beers/ci=
ders or booking out a<br>
cafe or restaurant function room. A smorgasbord type place would probably w=
ork best so we<br>
could migrate between tables at whim without causing chaos with serving sta=
ff.<br>
<br>
A fixed menu or smorgasbord with a set head count and price per person is a=
n easier sell to a<br>
cafe/bar/restaurant but is unlikely to suit all members for the usual varie=
ty of<br>
dietary/social/philosophical/fiscal reasons. Which is fine occasionally but=
 is exclusive and<br>
destructive on a regular or long term basis.<br>
<br>
Cheers, Stephen.<br>
<span><br>
On Tue, January 26, 2016 2:34 pm, Julia McSpadden wrote:<br>
&gt; Meeting Rooms<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; We have 2 meeting rooms available. These are free to use as long as yo=
ur<br>
&gt; order refreshments from the cafe. An online calendar will feature here=
 soon<br>
&gt; so you can book the rooms ahead of time. In the meantime please phone =
Rebar<br>
&gt; cafe <a href=3D"tel:%2B64%209%20525%209367" value=3D"+6495259367" targ=
et=3D"_blank">+64 9 525 9367</a> to enquire.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; [image: Rebar Cafe - meeting room 1]<br>
</span>&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"http://www.rebar.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/0=
8/rebar-meeting-room-1.jpg" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www=
.rebar.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/rebar-meeting-room-1.jpg</a>&gt;<br=
>
<div><div>&gt;<br>
&gt; Rebar meeting room 1<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; rebar cafe free rooms<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Welcome to ohSO!<br>
&gt; Open 7 Days<br>
&gt; 7am-3pm Monday-Friday<br>
&gt; 8am-3pm Saturday-Sunday<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Slightly off the beaten track and away from the hustle and bustle of<b=
r>
&gt; Ponsonby and Grey Lynn, you will find ohSO, a local favourite known fo=
r<br>
&gt; great food, friendly service, fantastic Allpress coffee and free wifi!=
<br>
&gt; Everything you need at your local cafe.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Our spacious cafe offers an outdoor deck area to enjoy a coffee in the=
 sun,<br>
&gt; as well as a quiet area in the rear dining room for meetings.=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0We&#39;ve also<br>
&gt; just had a make-over so the ambiance is even better than ever!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; ohSO is licensed, and is a great place for a business meeting, a priva=
te<br>
&gt; function or a catch up with friends.=C2=A0 Enjoy Asahi or Somersby Cid=
er on tap!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; ohSO free meeting room<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; there are probably plenty more cafes with private areas and I think we=
<br>
&gt; drink enough coffee for those that welcome groups to want us<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Jules<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Stephen Martin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:stephenm@aklnz.net" target=3D"_blank">stephenm@aklnz.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Halls used to be $28 per meeting, now more like $40-50.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; As per <a href=3D"http://www.dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?titleGuild=
_Finances" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.dq-nz.org/dqwiki=
/index.php?titleGuild_Finances</a><br>
&gt;&gt; Current Membership Fee<br>
&gt;&gt; $15 per year (March 2015 - Feb 2016) or $20 for family membership =
(but<br>
&gt;&gt; only 1 printed copy of<br>
&gt;&gt; SGT)<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Haven&#39;t worked out subs for next year yet. Probably need to go=
 up to $20<br>
&gt;&gt; if we continue with<br>
&gt;&gt; hall hire, could drop to 10 or maybe 5 if we stop hiring halls and=
<br>
&gt;&gt; printing SGT.<br>
&gt;&gt; Depends a lot on how many paid members we expect to get, SGT is ea=
sy as<br>
&gt;&gt; it&#39;s a per person cost<br>
&gt;&gt; but halls and web costs are independent of number of members.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I haven&#39;t recently reconciled the account with the wiki list, =
there may be<br>
&gt;&gt; one or two extras<br>
&gt;&gt; than the 20 paid members currently listed for this year.<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?titleClub_Members=
" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.ph=
p?titleClub_Members</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Tue, January 26, 2016 10:33 am, Jonathan Bean wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Hi Stephen,<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; What have the subs been for 2015-2016 and what do you expect =
them to be<br>
&gt;&gt; for<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; 2016-2017?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; How much was the hall hire for the last year?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Are you expecting it to change?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; How much is the hall hire expected to be for the coming year?=
<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Kind regards<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Jono<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; On 25 January 2016 at 17:29, Stephen Martin &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:stephenm@aklnz.net" target=3D"_blank">stephenm@aklnz.net</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Our club AGM is coming up in March and the budget and fee=
s for next year<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; are due to be set.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; So it seems a good time to consider our biggest club expe=
nses which are<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; the Hall Bookings and<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; printing the Seagate Times.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; We had 3 games out last season and barely made 4 this sea=
son, most of<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; which were organised<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; outside of the guild meeting. Our attendance at guild mee=
tings is<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; dwindling.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Are they still relevant and desirable as they are?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Do we drop them all together, reduce to 6-monthly, annual=
?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Adventures can still continue on a quarterly basis, the o=
rganisation of<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; them becoming<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; primarily electronic.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Without needing to organise games, the focus of the meeti=
ngs could<br>
&gt;&gt; change<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; to being primarily<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; social, the game-related story telling can be less formal=
.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; NB We still need to have an AGM in person to meet the req=
uirements of<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; being a registered society.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; And if we&#39;re not meeting in person, there&#39;s not m=
uch point in having<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; printed distribution of<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; the SGT.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Saving printing costs and allowing a little more editoria=
l freedom<br>
&gt;&gt; without<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; print-friendly<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; restrictions.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; We need to decide on the budget and fees at the beginning=
 of March. But<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; thought I would raise<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; this now with plenty of time for it to be discussed.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Cheers, Stephen.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
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&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Jonathan Bean<br>
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SubjectRe: [dq] Future Pragmatism
FromStephen Martin
DateTue, 26 Jan 2016 16:38:11 +1300
In the past couple of years we usually have 20 to 30 people, closer to 20 the last couple of
meetings. I think at the last meeting we peaked at 18.
We occasionally exceed 30, a lot less often than we did 5 years ago.

One issue is that we don't know in advance.

15-20 we could comfortably host in someone's back yard with the option of crowding inside if
it rained.
But if word got out that Craig was supplying the home brew, the extra 15 people would make it
crowded.


Another angle to consider is those who don't attend the guild meetings any more but still play
occasionally and would like to be involved - what would make a meeting style event work for
you?
- Practicable suggestions please, free beer or food is unlikely and we're not looking to bribe
anyone, just come up with ideas that maintain/enhance our DQ community.


On Tue, January 26, 2016 3:30 pm, Julia McSpadden wrote:
> Do we have 30 people at a guild meeting ?  I would have thought 15 - 25 was
> more relatistic
>
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Stephen Martin <stephenm@aklnz.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Most meeting rooms like this would be fine for 6-8 or even 10 people but
>> not many comfortably
>> cater for 20-30. At that stage they consider it a function and won't be
>> keen on individual
>> ordering.
>>
>> Guild meetings have been at 1pm on the second Sunday of every 3rd month
>> for 20+ years. But
>> perhaps we could consider a different time of day (it's ok, I'm going to
>> wash my mouth out
>> with soap now).
>>
>> We might get some traction with booking out a cafe for a couple of hours
>> later in the
>> afternoon but unless they're struggling, lunch time is peak revenue and
>> few places will want
>> us sitting around chatting for several hours over a couple of coffees and
>> meals.
>>
>> We could look at mixed options, the Dec & Mar meetings could be held
>> somewhere like Cornwall
>> or Pt Chev park with a social picnic/bbq theme. Cheap and family friendly
>> but we'd need a rain
>> option or an alternate rain date.
>> The Jun & Sep mtgs later in the day at a sports club over some
>> beers/ciders or booking out a
>> cafe or restaurant function room. A smorgasbord type place would probably
>> work best so we
>> could migrate between tables at whim without causing chaos with serving
>> staff.
>>
>> A fixed menu or smorgasbord with a set head count and price per person is
>> an easier sell to a
>> cafe/bar/restaurant but is unlikely to suit all members for the usual
>> variety of
>> dietary/social/philosophical/fiscal reasons. Which is fine occasionally
>> but is exclusive and
>> destructive on a regular or long term basis.
>>
>> Cheers, Stephen.
>>
>> On Tue, January 26, 2016 2:34 pm, Julia McSpadden wrote:
>> > Meeting Rooms
>> >
>> > We have 2 meeting rooms available. These are free to use as long as your
>> > order refreshments from the cafe. An online calendar will feature here
>> soon
>> > so you can book the rooms ahead of time. In the meantime please phone
>> Rebar
>> > cafe +64 9 525 9367 to enquire.
>> >
>> >
>> > [image: Rebar Cafe - meeting room 1]
>> > <
>> http://www.rebar.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/rebar-meeting-room-1.jpg
>> >
>> >
>> > Rebar meeting room 1
>> >
>> >
>> > rebar cafe free rooms
>> >
>> > Welcome to ohSO!
>> > Open 7 Days
>> > 7am-3pm Monday-Friday
>> > 8am-3pm Saturday-Sunday
>> >
>> > Slightly off the beaten track and away from the hustle and bustle of
>> > Ponsonby and Grey Lynn, you will find ohSO, a local favourite known for
>> > great food, friendly service, fantastic Allpress coffee and free wifi!
>> > Everything you need at your local cafe.
>> >
>> > Our spacious cafe offers an outdoor deck area to enjoy a coffee in the
>> sun,
>> > as well as a quiet area in the rear dining room for meetings.   We've
>> also
>> > just had a make-over so the ambiance is even better than ever!
>> >
>> > ohSO is licensed, and is a great place for a business meeting, a private
>> > function or a catch up with friends.  Enjoy Asahi or Somersby Cider on
>> tap!
>> >
>> >
>> > ohSO free meeting room
>> >
>> >
>> > there are probably plenty more cafes with private areas and I think we
>> > drink enough coffee for those that welcome groups to want us
>> >
>> > Jules
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Stephen Martin <stephenm@aklnz.net>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Halls used to be $28 per meeting, now more like $40-50.
>> >>
>> >> As per http://www.dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?titleGuild_Finances
>> >> Current Membership Fee
>> >> $15 per year (March 2015 - Feb 2016) or $20 for family membership (but
>> >> only 1 printed copy of
>> >> SGT)
>> >>
>> >> Haven't worked out subs for next year yet. Probably need to go up to $20
>> >> if we continue with
>> >> hall hire, could drop to 10 or maybe 5 if we stop hiring halls and
>> >> printing SGT.
>> >> Depends a lot on how many paid members we expect to get, SGT is easy as
>> >> it's a per person cost
>> >> but halls and web costs are independent of number of members.
>> >>
>> >> I haven't recently reconciled the account with the wiki list, there may
>> be
>> >> one or two extras
>> >> than the 20 paid members currently listed for this year.
>> >> http://www.dq-nz.org/dqwiki/index.php?titleClub_Members
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, January 26, 2016 10:33 am, Jonathan Bean wrote:
>> >> > Hi Stephen,
>> >> >
>> >> > What have the subs been for 2015-2016 and what do you expect them to
>> be
>> >> for
>> >> > 2016-2017?
>> >> >
>> >> > How much was the hall hire for the last year?
>> >> > Are you expecting it to change?
>> >> > How much is the hall hire expected to be for the coming year?
>> >> >
>> >> > Kind regards
>> >> >
>> >> > Jono
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On 25 January 2016 at 17:29, Stephen Martin <stephenm@aklnz.net>
>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Our club AGM is coming up in March and the budget and fees for next
>> year
>> >> >> are due to be set.
>> >> >> So it seems a good time to consider our biggest club expenses which
>> are
>> >> >> the Hall Bookings and
>> >> >> printing the Seagate Times.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> We had 3 games out last season and barely made 4 this season, most of
>> >> >> which were organised
>> >> >> outside of the guild meeting. Our attendance at guild meetings is
>> >> >> dwindling.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Are they still relevant and desirable as they are?
>> >> >> Do we drop them all together, reduce to 6-monthly, annual?
>> >> >> Adventures can still continue on a quarterly basis, the organisation
>> of
>> >> >> them becoming
>> >> >> primarily electronic.
>> >> >> Without needing to organise games, the focus of the meetings could
>> >> change
>> >> >> to being primarily
>> >> >> social, the game-related story telling can be less formal.
>> >> >> NB We still need to have an AGM in person to meet the requirements of
>> >> >> being a registered society.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> And if we're not meeting in person, there's not much point in having
>> >> >> printed distribution of
>> >> >> the SGT.
>> >> >> Saving printing costs and allowing a little more editorial freedom
>> >> without
>> >> >> print-friendly
>> >> >> restrictions.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> We need to decide on the budget and fees at the beginning of March.
>> But
>> >> >> thought I would raise
>> >> >> this now with plenty of time for it to be discussed.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Cheers, Stephen.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
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>> >> > --
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>> >> >
>> >> > Jonathan Bean
>> >> > P: +64 9 378 6635
>> >> > M: +64 21 917 173
>> >> > G: jonobean@gmail.com
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